Steam cleaner (steam generator)

I have a yellow SC4. And at one time, it also seemed to me that they had a difference with white only in color. But under your given conditions, I would buy Premium. If you have a wiper, you know it's great! Mirrors, glass in the shower, glass tables, window sills, again - the water was spilled, not just the windows. I would give it to someone - a great gift for 1700 rubles!

[Olga]

I have a yellow SC4. And at one time, it also seemed to me that they had a difference with white only in color. But under your given conditions, I would buy Premium.

I would do that too. I fully agree with Olga

[Elena]

Elena, thanks for your feedback!
I rarely used a wiper. It turned out faster with a good rag. I have few mirrors, and they are all small in size, the window sills are filled with flowers and appliances. The facades and tables are wooden - you can't wash much. And I had to bother with servicing the device longer. And now I actually bought a robot for washing windows, so I have an unclaimed wiper. Among relatives and friends to whom it would be possible to give it, there are definitely no ones who would be delighted with such a gift. But the concentrate from the kit is still not over.
And 1700 rubles is quite serious money for me. On the other hand, if the quality of the white model is better, why not?
And on Ozone, taking into account bonuses, etc., yellowish in general, about 13 thousand will turn out



Svetlenki, thanks for the advice!



And in Eldorado it is a little more expensive with an iron ... Oh, what to choose, I can't decide yet

[Belka13]

Belka13, I will buy from you a wiper for the above price. 8 985 250 08 02 Lyudmila.

It's a shame, while I was pondering, the discount in Eldorado for a model with an iron ended. That's how many times I told myself - I liked it if I liked something, I had to take it right away. It's still far away from Black Friday, I still have to make a decision. In principle, taking into account the bonuses, you will get a more pleasant price on Ozone
By the way, the store managers deny that the white model has any design features. And if so, then there is no point in overpaying.

[Belka13]

By the way, the store managers deny that the white model has any design features.

Belka13, Ol, did you ask in the official Karcher? I would not trust ordinary managers. Very often they sculpt nonsense just to sell.

[Sveta]

Sveta, yes, the information sounded in the official store from the mouth of the head of the retail department. He, seeing my doubts, on the contrary, could convince that the white series is better. And so - the only difference is in color, additional cloth, turbo nozzle and brush. And the official price is now lower for a device with a wiper.
And my hands are itching right - we urgently need to clean the watering cans and the stove.

[Belka13]

Belka13, Ol, well then, of course you should believe! You got a good employee.

Come on, good luck finding the best price. Cool device. I still love him dearly. I have the opportunity to return any purchase (by law) within a year. But steam is not. I will never refuse

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Thank you! We have to decide tomorrow. Because of my allergies, I use chemicals with caution. I like both jugs and manual steam cleaners, but here - a more powerful and versatile device.
Light, can I torment you with questions later, if something is not clear?

[Belka13]

Belka13, Ol, but torment of course. How can I help.

And, yes, my advice is to buy an additional set for the floor. I also took 5 teddy bears on the brush almost immediately. It's more comfortable and calmer for me. Suddenly, the whole house will want to progenerate at a time And it is more convenient to wash immediately.But this is financially possible, of course

And if you take from the officials, find out their attitude to adding lemon to the tank every time ... So that there is no scale ... Tell me what they will advise you.

[Sveta]

Sveta, I will ask about the lemon (I shouldn't forget), but it will definitely be more profitable for me to buy accessories on Ozone - there are bonuses. Although the store promised me a discount card.
On my first visit to the store, I was advised to pour tap water with distilled in a ratio of 1 to one or boiled water. But I will clarify all the information again. We have very hard water in our city.

[Ol]

On my first visit to the store, I was advised to pour tap water with distilled in a ratio of 1 to one or boiled water.

Ol, here's everything to clarify. Just look at them strictly and pitifully and ask how it is best, because you dreamed of the Karcher all your life and you will take care, cherish, groom and so that he works well.

Karcher has sticks for descaling that must be placed in the water tank in the unit (the manual says after how many cycles to clean).

Forgive me, I did not master three hundred pages, maybe they have already asked this question. Here they talk more and more about cleaning. And I am worried about something else - how are all these steam generators / steam vacuum cleaners with disinfection? Can steam help with this?
We have a new kitty. Very rarely, but, it happens, shit in the house. I, of course, wash this business with any armor-piercing chemistry, but once she sinned right on the carpet. And where will you drag the 3x2 carpet to wash in winter? I washed it on the spot again, as best I could, poured out half a bottle of Sanox. Then she disinfected with a hot iron through parchment. But I am very squeamish about such things. And cats from the street sometimes drag mice. Then I also water this place where a dead mouse was lying around with all sorts of bleach cocktails with domestos. So I thought that it would be nice to have a steam device for such cases.
Do you think steam will help kill all bacteria in such a matter? And which device is better for this?

[Lula]

Lula, I'm not an expert, of course, but at your request I would either take a VAX washing vacuum cleaner or a Karcher steam vacuum cleaner. Both - the bandura is still ... I am already silent about the prices ...

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, there are not very good reviews about the steam cleaner. And the price is sky-high, of course. But the Karcher steam cleaner, I think, disinfects surfaces well. True, I can't say anything about carpets, but he cleans tiles cool. Moreover, there are relatively inexpensive models on sale.

there are not very good reviews about the steam cleaner.

yes, I also studied this question. Reviews are not very good.

But about disinfection with Karcher, he blows steam out (a vacuum cleaner, for example, sucks in). So, won't he swell all these bacteria from the surface to be disinfected around?

[Sveta]

SvetaI think he will kill them with a steam in a napkin. The temperature is high.

Girls, here you understand as a thing ... A lady needs to WASH (or CLEAN) + DISINFECT. A steam cleaner, may those present forgive me, flies by here. Therefore, I offered either a washing wah - at the moment it is the most powerful of the detergents and allows cleaning with disinfectants or a steam cleaner - I did not read the reviews (I don’t need it in FIG!), But logically - the supply power and steam temperature there should be higher than in an ordinary purifier, no? Plus, it will remove dirt like a regular vacuum cleaner.
Personally, in such cases, I simply clean the solid fraction with a rag, if there is one, and pass it with a 3-in-one special spray to remove stains and disinfect.

Then she disinfected with a hot iron through parchment.

steam will help kill all bacteria in this matter? ...

Than ironing through parchment, it is better, of course, with a steam cleaner. Steam 100 ° C at least (if the steam is superheated, then it may be> 100 °, did not study the issue). More than enough for household disinfection.

that's about disinfection with karcher, he also blows steam out (a vacuum cleaner, for example, sucks in). So, won't he swell all these bacteria from the surface to be disinfected around?

Here we connect physics. The angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection. If you need to blow off the remains from the carpet, hold the nozzle at an angle of 15-20-30 ° to the floor and gradually move to the edge of the carpet. Steam and dirt will be ejected at approximately the same angle upward from the carpet. There you can substitute a napkin and catch the dirt close to the floor (as much as possible), collect the rest from the floor. If you disinfect an already clean carpet, then hold the nozzle vertically, the steam, together with dead bacteria, will fly upwards from the surface. After drying, it is recommended to vacuum it (I don't remember the manufacturer or the craftsmen in the internet).
The only thing is that the steam cools down very quickly and already at a distance of 30-40 cm it is not hot, you can moisten the plants. So for disinfection - as close to the surface as possible.
All IMHO.



I forgot to write that I myself, as a household disinfection, if there really is a need to disinfect, I unconditionally prefer disinfection and cleaning with steam rather than chemistry. But I have no animals, only children and the dirt they carry (3 sons).

I bought an inexpensive endever odyssey q-435 steam cleaner on Ozone. I want to understand how strong he is at work and is he needed? I thought, if then you can take Karcher, if you really help in cleaning. While in the shower stall I tried to walk them. But I haven't noticed a significant difference yet. Maybe you can add something to it to make old smudges soaked better? 200 odd pages I will not master yet

there are not very good reviews about the steam cleaner

I, having this vacuum cleaner, read reviews and go nuts. The claims are somehow incomprehensible. The fact that he is not a fluff is clear even when buying (or people buy without looking). Complaints about washing it for a long time are not clear, any vacuum cleaner with an aquafilter must be washed. But, damn it, this unit can clean the entire apartment in a couple of hours, including windows, cabinets, mirrors and tiles, plus all surfaces in the kitchen, simply by changing the attachments. When doing this, do not use any detergent.

Although I have not written negative reviews anywhere, but one of those who have a steam cleaner was out of work. I had sv1902. Yes, it is heavy, and I could not evaluate it when buying. In addition, it is not so much annoying to wash as to dry then these numerous removable parts. Since it draws all the dirt into itself, you need to wash everything in addition to the tank: both hoses and pipes and nozzles. After cleaning for at least half a day to admire this showcase of details .. nope .. I stood in the closet for 8 years, after which I sold it for 1/5 of its cost ... and many accessories were never used.

I completely agree with Anita. There are no magic devices, they only help us, facilitate domestic work. And before purchasing something, you need to read the characteristics, user reviews, and then draw conclusions ourselves - you need this particular device, whether it meets your requirements. Specifically for myself, I bought a Karcher steam generator, and so I'm happy with it. And with the help of various attachments, you can quickly clean the entire apartment. I would have done without it, but in terms of cleaning time it would have been much longer, and even after harvesting, I would not have increased my strength.

[Hope]

HopeI have a warm floor in my bathroom, it takes an hour to dry everything. And if you rinse immediately, then it's not a problem. In my opinion, the result exceeds the efforts to create it, and this is the main thing.

This conversation is endless. More than 200 pages have already been written. Personally, it is easier for me to buy a device that helps me in cleaning, cooking, ironing and many others that make my work easier, save my time. Even if we assume that some device breaks down, then it's easier for me to buy a new one. My health is more important to me, you can buy a new device, but you can't buy health, and new hands too. And we live only once, and therefore we must take care of ourselves.

[Marpl]

MarplAnd I was completely disappointed in this steam generator .... Marina, why are you washing it, steaming it without harming what is being washed?

[Marina]

Marina, I completely agree! The main thing is that our acquisitions make our life easier.

In my Karcher, you can regulate the power of steam, so I steam everything with it - windows, doors, refrigerator, the entire kitchen, tiles, all mixers, parquet, and also steam clothes, and with the help of an iron attachment I quickly iron everything. But it is worth it, respectively, but worth it.

[Marpl]

Marpl, Marina, and I also have it, but from delight quickly turned into disappointment, he did not make it easier for me that this steam gives me, it does not clean, destroys microbes and that's it. Ironing yes, I agree ..

[spring]

spring, Elena, true? And he is my first assistant in the kitchen. Floors - only for them, then a tiled apron in the kitchen, facades. The bathroom is also tiled sometimes. But here it is realistic - it will not remove limescale, this is a fact. And flowers - flowers after Karcher are generally so happy !!!

Well, the carpet looks much better after brushing. It is only necessary to dry it before the flow of people, therefore either at night or when no one is at home

They thawed the freezer, yes, quickly, but pariiiit

It probably all depends on the power of the steam cleaner. Manual and mine, I will not even compare - they are different things. It's like comparing a bag sealer from Fix Price and a nominal one, which will pump out the air and seal it normally. The first one does not cope with its task, and the second has no complaints.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Light, I'm afraid to clean the facades with them, I think they spoiled the acrylic bathtub, a mesh appeared at the bottom, noticed after cleaning, immediately sobering came, otherwise I just rushed to clean everything for them. On the tile, grease splashes and not really steamed, you soar, you soar, and then you run with a rag, the floor is faster with a Viledov mop, laminate flooring is not recommended ... and so I pushed it in so that my eyes would not be callous. Tomorrow I will nominate, since everything is going well for you, I will start to be friends with him again.



Marpl, Marin, yes, the pressure is about 3 bar., Maybe this is not enough.

then this steam gives me, it does not clean

Maybe you are using it incorrectly? My Karcher cleans everything! I won't even talk about the kitchen apron and the tiles in the bathroom and toilet, I already wrote about the refrigerator in this thread (now it takes 10 minutes to wash it). I have white porcelain stoneware on the floor in my kitchen, I only clean the seams with a steam generator without any effort. And before, with the priest upward with a brush and pemolux, I suffered for 2 hours

[dry]

Grease splashes on the tile and does not really steam out

Old non-steamed fat is in fact not fat, but a polymer film a la drying oil. First, prepare it with chemistry, and then heat it up with a steam cleaner and wipe it off with a napkin. And the recent fat is washed out in an elementary way - you heat it with steam and immediately wash it with a napkin, without effort. By the way, with a bang, the steam cleaner copes with plasticine using the same technology - it was warmed up and erased.
Floor ... Karcher's floor cloths are, of course, a mockery - from white to material and price. As a result of the tests, I came to the following. I take such a rag (approx. 130 rubles in galamart):

Across dry I briefly pass steam in the air a couple of times and start mopping the floor, blowing steam every couple of seconds. The steam knocks out dust and dirt from the surface, and it immediately settles on the curls of the microfiber. Works - as long as the cloth is relatively dry. When I see that the rag is already moistened, I take off, put on the next rag, wash on. At the end I rinse all the rags and wash them in the washing machine.
If this is a regular wash, change the cloth when moving to a new room. If there is abundant contamination - as necessary, focusing on the moisture / dirtiness of the rag. The floors are washed in this way: 1). very quickly, because you do not need to wet and squeeze anything; 2). qualitatively, since the steam knocks out from the floor what the water cannot wash; 3). dries quickly, since the floor is not wet, but slightly damp.
I invented this method shortly after the appearance of the steam cleaner, being pregnant with my 3rd child, because my physical condition at that moment was not so hot. And she taught the elder, guaranteeing himself that he would wash the floor clean.

We use the same rags without a steam cleaner, but also using a non-spinning technology, now in a new apartment, because I do not risk steam steam on the new parquet floor yet.Although occasionally in some places and a steam cleaner of soap. On one occasion, nothing happened, of course, with the parquet.

[spring]

spring, Elena, as a neighbor on the desk at school, I strongly recommend you - shake it off !!! Kara, Accomplishment they say it. A microfiber cloth is your main assistant with a karcher. It's not a magician, but it works great if used correctly.

Marina, how can you agree with Anita if you have a steam generator and she has a steam cleaner? These are completely different things! The steam generator is smaller, lighter, more maneuverable and several times cheaper. I now have a steam generator, so I bastard from working with it, with a shudder I remember the previous one.

Nadezhda, I am not comparing a steam cleaner and a steam generator. I wrote that you need to choose equipment according to your needs and so that they meet your requirements. I didn't even consider a steam vacuum cleaner for myself, because there were already 2 vacuum cleaners in stock - with non-water and with water filters. And in the new apartment there were a lot of windows, tiles, doors and floor area - and I have to clean all this. Therefore, I chose a steam generator for the existing vacuum cleaners.

Yes, you need to choose such things carefully, but sometimes it's hard to understand your thing or not without trying it at work. Therefore, both positive and negative reviews are useful, after all, the amount of 40,000 is not affordable for everyone to experiment.

Regarding the choice of the Internet to help - full of videos, reviews. It only takes time to choose the right thing on the internet. And then I go to the store and look at this thing in the store, and if I like it, I will order it on the internet at a reasonable price.

Thank you all for the advice, I’m trying to make friends again, I don’t have anything old, because I rubbed everything with my pens instead of the steam cleaner. Special thanks for the shaggy rags!

[Hope]

Hope, I wrote about the same, they turned it on in the store and gave it to me to play. I felt everything there before buying, for a week after work I went to see them as if on a shift. They seem to have a policy such that you can try everything right in the store.

If there is an opportunity to try in business before buying, this is ideal!

People, maybe someone needs - on Voikovskaya in Metropolis on the 2nd floor Karcher opened the salon - I ran past and saw.

Good day! I am facing the choice of MIE Bello and Karcher 4 Premium with an iron. In the price range, they are almost the same. Mie has a larger steam supply, but the small number of reviews confuses me ... It seems like it's been on the market a long time ago, but something is in no hurry for people to share their impressions. Girls, help, pliz with a choice!

[milka80]

milka80,

I am facing the choice of MIE Bello

specially went to the Italian Amazon and the Italian Yahu ... I entered the search for MIE Bello - absolute zero. That is, from the very beginning, cheating the buyer

I have a Karcher 4th. Very happy

I also have Karcher Premium, but in yellow, I'm also happy.

I entered the search MIE Bello - absolute zero. That is, from the very beginning, cheating the buyer

Sveta, yes, I noticed it and saw the reviews on this matter. But, here's the thing - the main thing is that the technique is good, I can close my eyes to the rest. While I look, I read, I want to find it live in the store to see.

But, here's the thing - the main thing is that the technique is good, I can close my eyes to the rest.

Also pay attention to service centers. How they serve them is important. Of the famous Italian brands, I only know Lelit and Polti

And so pretty this Mie

And yet - all the Karcher attachments travel with me during cleaning. The mop tubes are also conveniently located on the Karcher itself. This is important, as it turned out from experience. I didn't understand what Mia had. Should it be stored separately somewhere?

I didn't understand what Mia had. Should it be stored separately somewhere?

Along the way, in the box (((I found a manual in pdf - there are no storage compartments, or I'm not looking well.