Bijou
FSE, thanks, girls, I drove in, that I was confusing concepts.
This little thing is battery-powered and collects water behind it (even together with sprayed shampoo), and the steam generator only applies steam and drives dirty water down, and I have to pick up all this beauty by hand. Right?
And what is the battery there?

Even if I suddenly wanted to buy this water vacuum cleaner for windows ...

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Cleaning is all about speed and quality
Once upon a time I was also convinced that it is great to wash floors with a vacuum cleaner. It didn't grow together ... The speed is so-so, I'll wash it faster with a good rag and my back will get tired less, and quality is of little interest in the sense that we basically don't have sterility. Home, animals sometimes come in, a stove, an eternal construction site in the yard, dust from the street, because there is no inflow with filters, but there are windows and doors ... That is, "sterility for a moment" is basically useless in our conditions. And there are not many tiles on the floor, and you can wash laminate and fig carpets like that.)

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And the second point - the distillate can be overheated above the boiling point without going into a gaseous state. The result is a metastable state, the exit from which can result in explosive boiling due to the stored heat.
Well, this is a completely unrealistic distillation, I guess. )) Which is without centers of vaporization / crystallization. You can't get this at home, and since I actually use water from an air conditioner or dehumidifier, it cannot be sterile by definition. And once in a couple of years I clean the iron (there is such a regime with increased steam generation and rinsing of the nozzles under pressure) - in places very, very black water flies out. ((On fabrics, t-t-t, so far there has never been a speck at this.

I won't say about the interaction of the distillate with sensors, I don't know. If there were an electrode system for heating water, distillation would really be contraindicated, because there are not enough ions for conductivity. But for ordinary flutes, it seems to be unimportant? Karoch, I don't know, in my steam room with conventional heating elements, my conditionally "distilled" water works perfectly, it's checked. But I don't impose on anyone, I just know that our even three times boiled one will still clog it with scale after a few times.




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I bought Karcher, including for washing balcony glasses, I have 2 large loggias.
Which Körcher did you buy for the windows? Shallow "water pump" or steam generator? I already have a mess in my head.
Accomplishment
Flax, about distillate is a master's business, especially since you have it "conditional" and from its use there is an unconditional utilization benefit.
I washed the floor with a steam cleaner not at all because of sterility, because its meaning in everyday conditions is not clear to me 😜, but because of convenience, simplicity, speed and cleanliness.
I bought a Kerkherovsky windshield wiper after the move, since the windows / mirrors / glass are not measured. But it was the shower that moved me, of which there are two and glass from floor to ceiling, and transparent (not my idea, if anything). And leaving it all in smudges is not an option, wiping after each one is not an option, so a windshield wiper appeared. So the husband and the elder are behind themselves, and for the younger ones - who will not be lucky! This thing made life easier for us. Karcher - well done!




And before the wiper with a steam cleaner for soap and glass units, and mirrors. I just moistened it with steam without fanaticism (from a distance of 10-20 cm), drove it with a nozzle for windows and collected it with a rag below. As I remember, when you got used to it, even with a particularly dry rag it was not necessary to crawl over the glass later.




By the way, in some topic, another Karcher novelty came up to make life easier - a device for wet floor cleaning or something like that.
Belka13
Bijou, there is a battery in the "vacuum cleaner", it must be charged periodically.
Bijou
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it must be charged periodically.
Yeah .. Is there lithium or nickel-cadmium?
Accomplishment
Well the pros! Lithium.
julia_bb
I also wanted a water vacuum cleaner for windows) I climbed onto the Karcher website to look for a filter for a vacuum cleaner, and my gaze caught on the glass washer
In black, this is pretty: Karcher WV 2 10Y Edition
Bijou
Accomplishment, lithium is good ... For it lives long and weighs little. * importantly gave Bijusya another commonplace *
Thank you, in short. Maybe it will grow together ... How lucky, there is a small idea.
Since they are all in a chorus, you assure that this thing is more convenient to wash than a steam cleaner.
Belka13
julia_bb, on glass washers are often discounts from officials. And in Leroy they seemed to be cheaper, but of a different color. And I bought myself an extension kit for him
julia_bb
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On glass washers, there are often discounts from the officials.
Yes, that's just the month of March for the black discount. Take what?
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extension kit
Convenient, reaching the top?
Belka13
julia_bb, the extension cord is convenient. The set includes two sticks with the ability to change their length. One with a microfiber cloth, the other with a wiper pad. Do not jump up and down with a stool. And in the bathroom it is also convenient for me to use, I can't reach the top from the floor.
julia_bb
Olga, clearly, you need to take a closer look at the extension cord at the same time. The ceilings are also high, without a stepladder / stool you can't reach the very top
Belka13
Yulia, the only thing, his price is not very humane. But on Ozone or Onlinetrade, you can use bonuses, if any.
My ceilings are not high, but my back does not allow jumping back and forth. And it turns out faster in time.
In our loggia, strong condensation forms on the windows in winter, so I used a glass cleaner on a stick every morning and evening to instantly remove moisture from the windows. I poured water out of the container twice, and I had to use two rags on one frame.
julia_bb
Olga, yes, the price for it as for the wiper itself is practically. Well, you can buy it later, if that
Belka13
julia_bb, I bought it because the bonuses burned out in the store, but 2000 is not cheap.
Bijou
Girls, help !!!

Tell me what should I buy? Körcher windshield wiper for a promotion on the website for 3700 (new model, spray with a washcloth, + narrow nozzle) or for 2100 in Eldorado just KARCHER WV 50, a time-tested old man without anything?

If you connect a steam cleaner with its mop, smearing the street dirt with a steam cleaner mop, and then picking up the remains with a water pump - is this possible or nonsense? Then you can do with one basic WV 50 without everything.

Or maybe catching discounts in Eldorado, where KARCHER WV 2 Premium White (1.633-410.0) costs now 4700, but it can easily suddenly become cheaper?

In short, help people are kind !!! What am I missing? The extension rod in the list of compatible models only has the old ones, 50-60-75. It may turn out that the new ones will not get there? Switches in different places and overall sizes are slightly different, can this somehow affect?
Svetlenki
Bijou, Lena, I will be happy to hear what they will advise you, but you describe the scale of the work. Is it a lot of glass - windows? I think that this will affect the correctness of the choice
Bijou
Yes, there are many windows, but the house is private ((There are even windows that are very difficult to reach, for example, a stained glass window on the second floor.
Honestly, I really want to buy both - in one kitchen the windows are sweating a lot (there are also a lot of them, because the former balcony) and to settle there one water pump for permanent residence.))
Accomplishment
Flax, so that we do not rummage, bring the objective characteristics of the models. Productivity in m2 and by operating time, battery capacity, working volume, power. Keep in mind that there are models with a removable battery - you can buy an extra one, and after charging it in advance, it will work 2 times longer.
Well, and the scale of your "disaster" - at least about m2.
And remind me, what kind of steam cleaner do you have? With a removable container?
julia_bb
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The extension rod in the list of compatible models only has the old ones, 50-60-75. It may turn out that the new ones will not get there?
Bijou, Lena, this rod is universal, suitable for new glass washers, asked the manager in the store. I bought myself a black Karcher WV 2 on this Thursday, the battery is not removable. I brought it home, tried it on the mirrors so far and realized that the barbell was also needed. In general, I ordered another barbell on Ozone, I will pick it up and check it on Monday. I have an apartment with 3 windows and sliding wardrobes with mirrors, but I will also carry to the dacha (there are 12 windows and a loggia)
Here is the comparison plate of wiper blades below
🔗
Belka13
There, in the kit there is a "platform" and for small wipers, so everything should fit. In general, of course, SC2 with a discount is more versatile and more profitable.
Bijou
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Well, and the scale of your "disaster" - at least about m2.
And remind me, what kind of steam cleaner do you have? With a removable container?

No, I will not say the square, I am not smart enough to count all this.
The steam cleaner is the most basic, sс 2. At first I wanted to buy a nozzle for washing windows for it, then I realized that it was not so necessary, it is better to invest in a separate device. But to soak the dirt with steam using a nozzle from it, which is a "mop" with a mop - the idea was born. Theoretical.)) Because some people generally puff with pure water, smear and calmly clean the glass, that is, without a detergent at all.

I also found out that the top-end model 5 has a removable battery, I don't need it. Probably. For it is very expensive. ((It seems that adding a drop of money to each subsequent model for another convenience does not look so ruinous, but in the end the goods become more expensive a couple of times. Yes, I bought a whole big steam cleaner for 4.5 !!

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I bought myself a black Karcher WV 2 this Thursday,
Congratulations on your purchase!

Almost ready to do it too. Although white is nicer to my heart. ((I intuitively dislike such promo models - they always cut something down in them, at the expense of something they save, and they can easily differ from the standard ones not only in color. From the latest examples, Berner's grater from Mvideo, which " I want to be a Trend ", but noticeably more budgetary for almost the same money. But again ... If 50/75 were made a long time ago, because there are new models on the conveyor belt, then their batteries stupidly die from time to time on the store shelves. And then even promotional the model might be more useful.)
But these are my personal, lovingly fed cockroaches.

Although, by default, the old models are all made in a much more indestructible version (comparing their old vacuum cleaners with new ones - in general, heaven and earth).

Yesterday they came to Mvideo for a little white old man - a display case missing, killed to death. They tried to persuade him to buy Thomas for the same money - they didn't like the plastic in the place where the nozzle is inserted into the body. That's right from the word at all. Although from the outside it looks very much like Körcher.

Here, at least take two at once.

Thank you, dear ones. Almost always, after talking to someone, the problem finds its solution. No matter what, the main thing is that the unknown is slowly receding.

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This rod is universal, suitable for new glass washers, I checked with the store manager.
Fine!!
Bijou
Urrraa !!!
Today I have tested the simplest Körcher wiper. For 2 thousand I bought the most basic model, which is one installation, even without a bottle. Which I don't need for nothing. First I pissed on a dirty street window with clean water from an ordinary spray bottle for 30 rubles.)) I ran it with a cleaner. The glass is clean - areas with insect spots are not very good. Well, do not buy a branded detergent? The thought immediately worked - you need something that does not contain alcohol (well, as long as I believe outside advice, at least), does not foam and washes well. I immediately found an almost full bottle of Finishing Gel for dishwashers (I'm sure that gel for washing machines will do), which I don't really like to use, because in our hard water it does not wash very well ...

She spread it in a bowl, took a kitchen microfiber cloth, washed off the main dirt.So that it remains wet on the glass. And collected it with a purifier.

Fine!
Now it costs nothing to maintain a clean state by sprinkling with clean water once a month.

Should I go and order another one?
Belka13
Bijou, Lena, Congratulations!!! Let it serve for a long, long time and please the hostess
The concentrate is very profitable (my hundred years will not end in any way, the expiration date has already passed, and I will not throw it all away). But it is quite possible to do without it.
Bijou
Belka13thank you druhh!

I ordered a promotional black on Kareks because of the narrow nozzle and smaller size. Tomorrow he will drive his son away, buy it out, if it grows together ... Somehow it is not clear that their online store is working. They finally said on the phone that if I order now and pick it up after April 1, the price will change. I fell into the sediment! But she changed her mind about paying online on such a wave.))
Belka13
Bijou, they have their own laws. I don't even pay attention.
Yes, the wide nozzle is not always comfortable. I prefer to wash the frames on the loggia with a narrow one.
Lena, I remembered about Matroskin, who became twice as happy
Bijou
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Lena, I remembered about Matroskin, who became twice as happy
julia_bb
Bijou, congratulations on the new thing, let it please! And what to buy before April 1, Karcher has a share until March 31 on them, on these blacks, maybe that's why ...
Bijou
julia_bb, you and I are now black sisters, right?

It does not happen that the ordered goods change their price! Look, I constantly catch discounts in stores, and buy goods when I can. It doesn't matter how much they cost by the next morning, whether I paid for them online in advance, or I pay at the checkout in the store. There was a 60% discount at the time of ordering - it will be on the check too, if you please.
julia_bb
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You and I are black sisters now, right?
Bijou, Lena, yes, sister Shop is engaged in gag, obviously
I like the black color, with yellow accents, so stylish.
I took the extension cords today, it says on the box that it is suitable for all models. Tomorrow I will test.
Accomplishment
Bijou, Lena, for information. I used Karcher's proprietary remedy a couple of times, for the experiment only because it was unnecessary. To me it seemed, it has water-repellent properties. In the sense that after the glass is washed with its use, the water rolls off better and, drying, leaves fewer traces.
On the street side, it can be useful. If you want, of course.
Svetlenki
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I take such a rag (approx. 130 rubles in galamart)

Accomplishment, Elena, do you by any chance remember what this rag was called? I can't buy in Galamart, maybe I'll look somewhere in Ali or somewhere else.

That is, she normally sits on the mop to the steam cleaner, right?
Accomplishment
There is light on Ali, friends ordered there. I have now been issued by the "aliexpress" application with suitable rags for the request "microfiber cloth for a mop". I don’t know how to extract the link from the application.
In the post you quoted, look - there are 2 rags under the spoiler. The left one is lined, the right one is without. These, which, without padding, fit normally on a steam-cleaning mop.
We also sell them in Auchan. Look, maybe some of your hypermarkets also have it?
Svetlenki
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Ali is there, friends ordered there

Look for
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We also sell them in Auchan.

The sister was already puzzled. She also has a steam cleaner, so she's interested.

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I briefly pass steam through a dry cloth a couple of times in the air and begin to wash the floor, blowing steam every couple of seconds. The steam knocks out dust and dirt from the surface, and it immediately settles on the curls of the microfiber. Works - as long as the cloth is relatively dry. When I see that the rag is already moistened, I take off, put on the next rag, wash on. At the end I rinse all the rags and wash them in the washing machine.

Lena, why does it work only while the rag is relatively dry?
Accomplishment
It seems to me that dust with steam is adsorbed (or absorbed? Well, I'm not a physicist) on microfiber.When the surface is clogged (even though it is huge due to the structure of the material), it can no longer hold anything in itself. Smearing begins. I do not exclude that my at that time deeply pregnant organism, or rather, his brain, in general, came up with all this.





Googled. Still, adsorption, and physical!
Bijou
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I thought it was water-repellent. In the sense that after the glass is washed with its use, the water rolls off better and, drying, leaves fewer traces.
Clear. I can also admit this state of affairs.
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Lena, why does it work only while the rag is relatively dry?
Another option - while it is dry, it is "warm". Wet cools from contact with the surface to be cleaned and absorbs the lion's share of the heat from the steam, forcing it to condense on the rag. Further, on the floor, it is almost not there or it is already cold. Mm?
But okay too bree brainstorming.))
Svetlenki
Accomplishment, Bijou, I love the theoretical pillow - I remember it this way better and, accordingly, do it
Accomplishment
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Wet cools from contact with the surface to be cleaned
Flax, hardly ... Wet dirty when you take it off - it is hot. You are puffing on the steam all the time ...
It seems to me, just wet is already saturated with water, where is the dust / steam adsorbed? Here the steam condenses on the floor, and the water along with the dust is the dirty water for smearing.
Well - theorists with a mop at the ready!
Svetlenki
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Well - theorists with a mop at the ready!

Oh, Lenok, I'm laughing at you NIMAGU!

Please tell me how many square meters one rag is enough for you? I'm trying to calculate how much I need to buy them

And another question, is it possible to freshen up the sofa with a steam cleaner? Girls, help. He (the sofa) smells to me. The husband likes to sit in one place and now it does not smell very "fresh"
LisaNeAlisa
Sveta, I steam with a steam cleaner. Only then you have to chase everyone off the couch with a wet rag for an hour, otherwise they will sit down, but he needs to ventilate.
Accomplishment
Shine, come on without fanaticism! What if you don't like it ?! Buy a set (4 pieces of them there, or something, on Ali). If it suits you - buy as much as you need!
For the kitchen - 10 square meters one. If the rooms are 20 square meters. Again, if the dust is somewhere under the bed and you don’t vacuum clean it in advance, then after the "bedding" you will take a new one and 20m2 wash, total - again 1 piece. by 10 m2.
I transplant the flowers (although I underlay the polyethylene of a decent size, it still pulls apart) - then the hallway, 12 square meters, tiles, I just walk through it 3 times - and for each aisle a clean rag. Until the last rag after washing the hallway will not look acceptable (the same as after washing the rooms).
120 sq. m. I cleaned with five rags, but sometimes I just "held out" (when I just came up with such a method). 8-10 pieces would be fine, so as not to save rags
Svetlenki
Accomplishment, Flax, for that kind of money, you can do it with fanaticism ... Compared to the prices of Karcher's rags for a mop, you can't buy them to achieve a clean floor!

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Sveta, I'm steaming with a steam vacuum cleaner. Only then you have to chase everyone off the couch with a wet rag for an hour, otherwise they will sit down, but he needs to ventilate.

LisaNeAlisa, Anita, Thank you! I'll try before bed sometime. And the attachment of a towel on a narrow brush or what?
Accomplishment
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Compared to the prices of Karcher's mop rags you can't buy them to achieve a clean floor!
This is yes! And the effect is different, here Karcher obviously did not finalize it.

I mean to you that suddenly it will not be yours. And there will be such a multi-colored mountain! And where is her?

Bijou
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Flax, hardly ... Wet dirty when you take it off - it is hot. You are puffing on the steam all the time ...
Well, okay, so Bijou missed. Although you can talk about the term "hot", but I will not until I try it myself. Even wondering if I will ever try?
Ljna
girls, I read and can't understand it is convenient for them to wash blind windows from the street? we have 6 floor
Belka13
Ljna, uncomfortable. If you only get the hang of a stick.
Bijou
And how is it possible to have blind windows on the street? Only climbers should wash this, probably, since the windows are deaf and without opening frames?
Ljna
Bijou, Lena, tricuspid window, the middle opens, on the sides there are two deaf people. misspelled above
Bijou
Ljna, Oh, I see. We just have a few really blank windows installed out of poverty (but three glass panes and an expensive profile), but this is a private house, almost all of them can be crawled from outside. Except for a couple. So you have to buy a stick anyway.
Ljna
I don't need such a device))) my windows are always fast and streak-free. here is the problem with the deaf, you have to drag on, it's scary)))
in the kitchen with a deaf one I changed, now both windows open, so it is enough for me to wash for 5 minutes. I still scold myself for not doing all the windows right away
LisaNeAlisa
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LisaNeAlisa, Anita, thank you! I'll try before bed sometime. And the attachment of a towel on a narrow brush or what?
I just have a brush.

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