Svetik_
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I have never been dusty with flour, but ten on the one hand showed some kind of brown soot or something, as if the sugar had been burnt in a thin thin layer, I can’t wash it completely. and so my bucket Prill and wipe it dry.
Girls, I have the same problem ... I can’t wash the part of the case that’s burnt behind the bucket ... most likely it’s sugar, it doesn’t wash, but someone tried soda ..... but won’t it scratch the walls ???
Shurshun
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... how to wipe them off properly, these shadows. Shumanit did not completely launder them.
It’s not scary that it’s not washed up to the end - I calcined the tena within 5 minutes and there is still no smell, I bake it often, I don’t complain. Teng is not so scary as he is painted
Mariya corlett
Oh, help please !!!!!!! I tried to make the dough and at the end the dough for some reason spilled over the edges and got into the oven itself, now I don’t know how to clean it, Panasonic 257, it’s written only with a rag to wipe it inside, but you can see small pieces got into the holes and when half an hour later I drank to bake bread - the smoke went - it can be seen that the pieces were not completely washed out and began to burn ........ I understand that the oven itself cannot be washed with water, it says there are some sensors ... I don’t know what to do, I’m afraid to burn it ... ... Help with advice !!!!!!! Thank you
sazalexter
Mariya corlett It dries up, the dough burns out, just shake the embers out of the HP and that's it
Mariya corlett
Thank you, but ....... when I wiped the inside, I found out that the white ceramic badyazh that holds the heating element consists of two pieces, it seems to me that it is broken ....... The husband looked, said it was necessary to carry it in shop, it became so offensive ....... I'll carry it tomorrow, I hope a guarantee if that helps.
Lana
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Thanks, but ....... when I wiped the inside, I found out that the white ceramic spider that holds the heating element consists of two pieces, it seems to me that it is broken .......
Mariya corlett
This detail is similar to number 9. There is a screw in the "head" with which it is fastened, and the "leg" of the number seems to hold a heating element, it "lies in it" Number 9 is solid, with one detail ... Is it different for you?
Mariya corlett
Yes, lana7386, I have this part from two pieces, now I know for sure that it is broken. I bought a bread maker just a week ago. Thank you for the description of this part, otherwise I could not find a better word than badyazhka.
Lana

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Yes, lana7386, I have this part from two pieces, now I know for sure that it is broken. I bought a bread maker just a week ago. Thank you for the description of this part, otherwise I could not find a better word than badyazhka.
Good luck, Mariya corlett
Calmness and confidence in your righteousness will help you achieve the replacement of HP!
Mariya corlett
Hurrah! We changed the bread machine and now I am the owner of the newest bread machine, but ....... I'm afraid to even breathe near it. As a newest beginner, there are 2 questions - what should not be done in any case (I read here on the website that you cannot turn the bread maker, but the instructions do not say this) and it is also written in the instructions that you must definitely put special paper if you bake all kinds of cupcakes, I suffered with this paper, asked my friends, no one uses paper, but they have 255 models. thanks for answers
sazalexter
Mariya corlett You can turn it over, only cooled down and without a bucket. To shake out the crumbs
I do not underlay the paper.
Lana
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Hurrah! We changed the bread machine and now I am the owner of the newest bread machine, but ....... I'm afraid to even breathe near it.
... but they have a 255 model.
Love but don't be afraid Mariya corlett
The difference between 255 and 257 is only in the coverage of the bucket, therefore, which is good 255, then 257!
Do not wash the inside of the HP, just wipe it gently, we have already talked about this Crumbs should be removed carefully with a vacuum cleaner without a nozzle at low speeds (very convenient!)
Do not put a hot bucket under cold water (remember the school physics course)
And trust, read, read! My husband says that every respectable company makes a safety margin "for a fool"
You are oriented correctly, therefore everything will be fine 🔗
Good luck!
shu-shu
And I guessed to rub the ten with a rough sponge after the dough ran away. I erased the coating in some places. Now there are scuffs measuring 10 centimeters in diameter. There are only a couple of them, but they are. Is that all, the end of the bread maker, or is it okay? Will the ten continue to deteriorate then? Maybe you can replace it in the service?
LiudmiLka
And what kind of rubbing can there be on the heating element, and most importantly, 10 cm in DIAMETER?
Alim
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And I guessed to rub the ten with a rough sponge
Teng is a thin tube with a spiral and insulation inside. If you rub or "chemise", you can wipe .. to the hole .. better to burn.
shu-shu
So, after reading the topic, I did not understand correctly what ten is. I meant in my bread maker the inner coating on the metal in the oven itself (on the inside).
LiudmiLka
I think that it is not so scary, although, of course, it is not pleasant enough. Just then wipe gently with a damp soft cloth after each use and that's it.
LiudmiLka
By the way, be careful with the bucket too. Pour in water, soak, and then wash without rubbing. And don't put cold water into a hot bucket. In short, take care of the bucket and mixer cover.
shu-shu
I know. I am very careful about the bucket, at first I soak it in some water, then wash it lightly with my hand. Today everything is just awkward. The mood is nowhere better. So the bread came out of the bucket, the lid was already flooded. I did such stupidity under the hot hand. Now, at least cry. I read in the topic that these internal walls affect the quality of heating the bread machine. The rest of the coverage will probably creep too
Alim
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So, after reading the topic, I did not understand correctly what ten is. I meant in my bread maker the inner coating on the metal in the oven itself (on the inside).
Do not put the bucket, which is wet after washing, in the oven. This started pitting corrosion inside the stove. If the protective coating on the metal is scratched after the sponge, it is better to keep away from moisture.
Alim
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... The rest of the coverage will probably creep too
Nothing will creep away, everything will be fine
shu-shu
I never bet. Always dry side by side, then put dry. I always loved and took care of my hard work. Today I only freaked out. If only it does not start to deteriorate.
yaremapv
Tell me what yeast-B and yeast-R mean, what's the difference ???
Admin
Yeast R and B and their laying in the dough

Yeast R and B are often mentioned in bread recipes from the instructions for bread makers. What is this yeast?
This is the same yeast that you are used to using to bake your bread.
The only difference is in the dosage of yeast when baking bread for different programs.

1. Amount of yeast B is intended for baking bread according to the Main (basic) cycle (program) BREAD.
2. The amount of yeast R is intended for baking bread according to the accelerated cycle (program) BREAD RAPID.
Sonia's mom
Thanks Admin, I’m not a beginner anymore, but every time I was confused by these B and R designations in the instructions for the bread maker. Now I can risk baking.
Alla1949
Good day )

Please tell me about the model CD -254, after baking the bread is difficult to remove from the mold. Is this normal? Or could it be different?

Thanks for the answer ;-)
Rina
Not visible, sticks to the walls or is inhibited by the stirrer?

In the second option: if you take it out hot, then the dry crust can be baked a couple of millimeters under the mixer, and the mixer is slightly stuck to the axis, so it is difficult to take out the bread.

Before placing food, put a few drops of oil into the hole on the spatula to lubricate the axle.And take out the bread at least half an hour after the end of baking, when the crust is slightly sweaty. The crust will dry out while the bread has cooled to the end.
tat-63
Alla, it pops out freely.
Alla1949
Thanks, I'll try tomorrow!
wall
Worried about the same problem- HP Panasonic is stained, you can still wipe something on the bucket, but the plastic is in a terrible form on the back and inside on the lid. My hp is only six months old, but it looks ancient. Before her, I had HPLG-202 for seven years, it deteriorated from power surges, but it looks like a new stove, the plastic is the same snow-white, completely without spots. The bucket was changed after a couple of years, the coating flew off, I tried too hard to wash it, soaked it with the product for a long time, I already washed the next bucket purely symbolically, it is still normal. And my new Panasonic is a zamurzayka (or me), but in my opinion everything is in the quality of plastic, before these were devices from the manufacturer's country, and now it's all China and you can't do anything about it. I'll look at my HP when they are standing nearby. tears are welling up, my husband took LG to the closet so that it doesn't suffer, but we don't have a service close to repair. I always put bread in it on a timer for the night, and I have to stand over Panasonic and keep an eye on it, it takes so much time.
Margit
At first I did not save my bread maker, then I just did not know how to carefully operate it. But all the time I wanted to clean it up so that it was like new, and no means would help. Once, while walking around the Metro store, I saw Shumanit, which had long been advertised that it removes the worst stains. That same night, when everyone fell asleep, I went to the kitchen. I couldn't wait to clean it up, my toiler. I put on gloves, poured a little shumanite on the sponge and wiped the bucket from the outside, it instantly cleared!
Down and Out trouble started! I moistened the sponge with shumanite again - I wiped the inside of the bread machine, and - lo and behold! In front of the int. the surface of the oven has become cleaned. I had to repeat this procedure several times and that's it, the oven became like new! True, I had to change a pair of gloves, this muck is so strong - it rustles!
Try it, girls. I think that you will succeed. I would have photographed, but the stove moved to my daughter's on leave, to teach her to bake bread. And my new 256 will never become as grimy as its predecessor, because its owner is now an experienced baker!
Rina
The easiest way to keep your stove always looking like new is to not use it at all!

Girls, do not suffer from perfectionism. Any technique is new only until the first use.
Most stoves have internals made of aluminum-containing alloys, which do not like harsh chemicals. If you try too hard, you risk getting ugly black spots.
wall
So I'm scared to use this chemistry, I sometimes clean old frying pans outside with shumanite and also my hood inside, it does an excellent job, but I'm afraid to clean HP. the first bucket For a long time I washed the usual Ferry and it quickly peeled off.
We will live with what is, it bakes well, even grimy.
Margit
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So I'm scared to use this chemistry, sometimes I clean old frying pans outside and my hood inside with shumanite, it does an excellent job, but I'm afraid to clean HP. the first bucket For a long time I washed with an ordinary Ferry and it quickly peeled off.
We will live with what is, it bakes well, even grimy.
But you can still try it? Moisten with shumanite at least with a match with cotton wool at the end, then wipe it with a clean damp cloth and you will see whether or not you need to clean your worker. What color of aluminum I had in the stove remained the same. If you smear it with shumanite and leave, it may be, as I wrote Rina To prevent this from happening, you need to immediately wipe it with a damp cloth and more than once.
wall
Ritochka, How often should this be done?
I don’t understand at all why it gets dirty - dry, covered with a towel when kneading, where all sorts of drips came from, why they were not on the Ski, although the buckets are very similar.
Margit
Valyusha, I think it gets dirty during kneading, when flour flies from the bucket and oil splashes.Then all this is fried in the form of dark spots, which eventually darken even more. Frying pans also darken in the same way. Now I mix all the ingredients for bread with a spatula in a bowl, then I just dump it into a bucket and turn on the oven. The new stove is already the second month, I bake every day and thanks to this method there is not a single speck. She taught me this and two girlfriends (they also have new stoves), everything is clean and they have it too.
Davli
called our service - bucket 6190. must be careful .... the stove itself is 7600. that means everything else 1400 rubles - I'm in shock !!!! spatula for rye bread - 787 rubles
wall
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I called our service - bucket 6190. must be careful .... the stove itself is 7600. that means everything else is 1400 rubles - I'm in shock !!!! spatula for rye bread - 787 rubles
I'm in shock !!! Or are my numbers displayed incorrectly - 6190 rubles?
Then it's better to take a new stove right away, in my opinion.
vera100865
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Now I mix all the ingredients for bread with a spatula in a bowl, then I just dump it into a bucket and turn on the oven.
I don’t understand, you don’t turn on the batch, stir everything with your hands, but does your toiler only bake?
Margit
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I don’t understand, you don’t turn on the batch, stir everything with your hands, but does your toiler only bake?
I stir all the ingredients in a bowl except the salt and oil. I do everything with a silicone spatula in a stainless steel bowl. It takes me less than a minute to mix. I dump the dough into the bucket, add salt and oil and that's it, the baking will continue the rest!
But first I turn on the oven (!), Let the time go by, my leveling usually lasts 25 minutes on a medium program, at which time I mix the ingredients. The program is set as usual, no need to stand over soul bucket and help with a spatula when kneading, as I did before.
Margit
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I'm in shock !!! Or are my numbers displayed incorrectly - 6190 rubles?
Then it's better to take a new stove right away, in my opinion.
That is why I bought a new stove, my bucket from the first stove is far from new, from shaking out fresh bread, Teflon is scratched with multiple longitudinal stripes.
Davli
wall everything is right you have shown on the screen, I myself was shocked when you consider that the spatula is under 800 rubles, then the body, motor, and electronics cost 600 rubles
Alexa13
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I called our service - bucket 6190. must be careful .... the stove itself is 7600. that means everything else is 1400 rubles - I'm in shock !!!! spatula for rye bread - 787 rubles
Fool you! The merchants went completely crazy. I recently saw a bucket for three and something thousand on some website, I was almost speechless, and here - six!

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I stir in a bowl all the ingredients except the salt and oil. I dump the dough into the bucket, add salt and oil and that's it, the baking will continue the rest!
But first I turn on the oven (!), Let the time go by, my leveling usually lasts 25 minutes on a medium program, at which time I mix the ingredients.
An interesting way out! Fall asleep with yeast too? According to the instructions, it is necessary that they do not come into contact with water before the start of the batch. Although, probably, these 25 minutes ("leveling") you just measure, stir, fall asleep. But there are programs with longer alignment. And if you put on the timer, how?
Madam
Hello everybody! Eh, and where were my eyes before, why didn't I notice this topic? And the fact is that, like many others, the inner surface of the stove was covered with dark brown spots, even with carbon deposits. I suspect that oil sprinkled outside the bucket served as an impetus for this ... In general, as soon as I saw all this disgrace, I began to try to wipe it off. Of course, it turned out badly. I've tried baking soda, faerie and even pemolux, which I now suspect shouldn't be! No, something even rubbed off, but the silvery color of the surface in some places became not very silvery. It is not very noticeable, but it is the case. And now I am worried, in general, I have been baking with such a surface for six months and every time thoughts creep into my head: what if the surface is damaged and releases harmful substances? Although it seems that the silvery surface of the stove is not non-stick? .. Do you think the coating is dangerous?
Alim
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Although it seems that the silvery surface of the stove is not non-stick? .. Do you think the coating is dangerous?
Non-stick coating inside the bucket only. The inside of the stove is ordinary metal with anti-corrosion coating and does not emit anything harmful, even with a broken coating
Madam
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Non-stick coating inside the bucket only. The inside of the stove is ordinary metal with anti-corrosion coating and does not emit anything harmful, even with a broken coating

Thank you very much for the quick response! That is, the damaged surface is now corroded? Hope it doesn't show up ...
Alim
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That is, the damaged surface is now corroded?
2 years have passed - everything is fine, although the coverage is broken.

Quote: Alim

Do not put the bucket, which is wet after washing, in the oven. This started pitting corrosion inside the stove. If the protective coating on the metal is scratched after the sponge, it is better to keep away from moisture.

Madam
Thanks again. Calmed down
Rina
and I have a little stove. I clean it once every six months ... and don't fool myself. Well, who do we have for whom? Am I for the stove or the stove for me?
Admin

And why should the bucket inside be polished by different means? Why climb there unnecessarily?

After all, after constant baking, a special environment is created in it, a shell on the walls, which then helps baking.

And then, the dough itself is a "poisonous" environment; when kneading, it cleans the walls of various differences well.

It's like in a teapot, it is not recommended to wash the inside so that the taste of the tea does not spoil, where its own microclimate and environment is created.

I wash the stove slightly:
my bucket, if necessary, with dishwashing detergent and then very quickly and easily.
I wipe the inside of the bread maker with a sponge, collect the crumbs.

And the old woman has been serving me for many years, thank you honey
Madam
No, a bucket - this is understandable, I was heating the stove itself inside, because it looked not the best

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