Viki
It is noticed that if you cover the bucket with a napkin or kitchen. with a towel for the first 1-2 minutes of kneading, then no one gets dusty anywhere. After the first minute I remove the towel and see how my bun is there. So mine only gets dusty when it's on the timer.
Rustic stove
Quote: Musyanya

It turns out that many stoves are dusted with flour during kneading?

musian, of course, when kneading, flour scatters.
I try to pour the liquid evenly over the entire flour, then the top layer of flour gets wet and less dusty (my bookmark is down - dry, above - liquid).
Gurza
Help, for a month of use, the surface near the shade turned black due to the spilling flour (photo), than it can be erased or left as it is

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How and how to clean the stove / bucket
LaraN
After the stove has cooled down, I usually wipe the spilled flour and splashes with a damp sponge. But all the same, the burnt areas remained. I've been baking bread for more than six months now, it doesn't bother me. I do not want to use scrapers, powder or chemistry, so as not to spoil the stove.
natalka
Is it dirty? You haven't seen mine after six months of daily use ... I don't even know why, but it is covered with a uniform layer of some kind of soot. If something wakes up, I wipe it off immediately, and this is probably a side effect of baking. I tried to rub, but using simple means is not productive, and looking for something reactive is scary, suddenly I'll ruin it altogether.
Hope
My stove is about a year old, I bake bread all the time. She became evenly tanned inside. At first I tried to clean it, and now I just wipe it after baking with a damp sponge.
MariV
The same thing - with me since October, at first I was very upset about this, but I see that it does not reflect on the work of HP and the quality of bread, well, as my youngest says, mom, forget it!
LaraN
Quote: natalka

I don't even know why, but it is covered with a uniform layer of some kind of soot.

Yes, my stove also turned brownish from the inside, even from the outside, behind, where the ventilation grate is, a brown spot appeared and eaten into the plastic.
Cat
Girls, the "problem" is solved very simply - a little soda on a damp sponge - all the carbon deposits leave remarkably.
Hope
Soda can of course be rubbed, I've already tried it. Cleans up, but very bad. You need to rub hard. Better to be tanned than skinned.
Irina @
I came across this topic and decided to write, maybe someone else is tormented by the same question.
I also have a brown speck on the stove. I concluded that this appears as a result of baking rye bread, and especially with additions of malt (i.e., the darker the bread).
My mom has the same oven, but there is no stain on it. And she does not bake rye, because she does not love
larimari
Quote: Irina @

I came across this topic and decided to write, maybe someone else is tormented by the same question.
I also have a brown speck on the stove. I concluded that this appears as a result of baking rye bread, and especially with additions of malt (i.e., the darker the bread).
My mom has the same oven, but there is no stain on it. And she does not bake rye, because she does not love
I looked at my stove and I have a stain, but I don't bake rye bread or add malt.
LaraN
And my stove has a brown stain on the back of the lid. Well. Probably it will be so, there is no point in fighting.
Hope
I've already come to terms with this stain. It appeared a year ago, so let it be. This does not affect the operation of the stove.
zanoza
Dear bakers, I have a similar problem with HP, but there are also yellow stains inside the oven, where I put the bucket. They cannot be wiped off with a damp cloth according to the manufacturer's recommendations, and I do not dare to use other detergents.Tell me, does anyone have any successful experience in washing stoves?

Shl. I understand that this problem arises from throwing ingredients out (outside the bucket) and getting on the heating elements. A couple of times raisins fell out there. Accordingly, a yellow spot appears on the outside when combustion occurs on the heater. But, unfortunately, a damp cloth cannot eliminate this mess, either inside or outside. Outside, of course, you can experiment with detergents, but inside - it's scary (suddenly what?). Help SOS!
Kapet
It is logical to assume (just a brilliant idea!) That absolutely all Panas models 254 and 255 have a local change in the white color of the plastic in the direction of dirty yellow to brown at the rear exhaust.

And if such contamination also appears on nearby surfaces, then the author's version of the reason is as follows: the main contamination is caused by volatile oils, which are inevitably present in the components of bread, actively precipitating in this structurally most actively ventilated area, and actively eating into the plastic under the influence of temperature.

Shl. Analogy: when we at home tried a novelty for repelling / destroying flies and mosquitoes "Reid", which also contained fragrances, then after a while we got a long brownish-yellow plume on the wallpaper above the connection point of this Reid. The room has queued up for renovation ...
Caprice
It's strange for me to read all this nonsense about "dark spots" on bread makers of different models. I think the people who care about these specks bought their HP, either to decorate their kitchens, or for something else, but, obviously, not for baking bread in them. Because those who, nevertheless, bake bread in their CP, know that ingredients such as vegetable and animal fats, molasses (often dark), malt (also often dark) are added to the dough, which, during heat treatment, can give off vapors that can settle on the HP case, especially if this case is not made of stainless steel (which can sometimes be wiped off, and even then not always) but made of plastic. Je, if the plastic is of the highest quality that can be, it is still difficult to get rid of the appearance of stains on it over time from the products that are used in this device. IMHO.
Kapet
Quote: Caprice

It's strange for me to read all this nonsense about "dark spots" on bread makers of different models. I think the people who care about these specks bought their HP, either to decorate their kitchens, or for something else, but, obviously, not for baking bread in them .... IMHO.

IMHO, neat people are worried about the appearance of a bread machine, which is part of the entourage of a neat well-groomed kitchen. Conversely, for a sloppy, unkempt kitchen, this is completely irrelevant.

Shl. Did I guess correctly what type of cuisine yours belongs to? Or do we have different ideas about purity and harmony?
Celestine
Quote: Kapet

IMHO, neat people are worried about the appearance of a bread machine, which is part of the entourage of a neat well-groomed kitchen. Conversely, for a sloppy, unkempt kitchen, this is completely irrelevant.

Shl. Did I guess correctly what type of cuisine yours belongs to? Or do we have different ideas about purity and harmony?

In bent
My kitchen is clean, but the speck on the back of the stove doesn't bother me much, and the 4 pages of conversations about this "problem" are also not entirely clear ... the stain interferes - wipe, what is there to discuss, perhaps just to talk ... IMHO
Sofim
Y-yes, what did the people agree to ... a stain on the back of the bread machine - hang yourself, you have a messy kitchen ... and on my bread machine there are also spots on the sides of the lid - as if traces of steam coming out ... probably you need to hang yourself on double rope
Kapet
No dear Celestine, I also go to bed without being tormented by the question of the state of the anus of my HP. But, to be honest, with rare routine maintenance on HP, I still try to return this place to its virgin appearance in order to save HP and myself from neglected hemorrhoids ... Sorry for a naturalistic analogy
Celestine
Quote: Kapet

No dear Celestine, I also go to bed without being tormented by the question of the state of the anus of my HP.But, to be honest, with rare routine maintenance on HP, I still try to return this place to its virgin appearance in order to save HP and myself from neglected hemorrhoids ...
What I was talking about: the stain interferes, wipe it off, and do not sit at this time and write how excruciatingly painful it is to look at it.
Kapet
I agree, the salvation of the drowning - ...

Shl. Although people in this thread were more worried about the question "why and why is this happening with Panasonic", and then "what to do or not to do" ....
kinski
To get crazy ... they started the topic from scratch ... The question is not in a spot ... or rather, not quite in a spot ... But it turns out that if a spot appears on my Clathronic, then it should be so .. adored Panasonic ... but how could he afford it ... According to your version, Panasonic does not have the right to break, it is bad to bake, and now it still gets dirty))))
There is nothing more to talk about ...
Zest
Quote: kinski

But it turns out that if a stain appeared on my Clathronic, then it should be so ... but on such adored Panasonic ... but how could he afford it ... According to your version, Panasonic does not have the right to break, it is bad to bake, and now still get dirty))))

; MALADTSa)) Oh, I made fun, even though I and Panasonic itself are not a slob, like ... But I am of the opinion that I buy things so that they serve me, and not me. And there is also such a factor as natural depreciation, wear and tear, etc. I will not demand from the blouse that it retains its original appearance after several washes? So why should my Panasonic remain pure white, despite the merciless exploitation?

so, about the speck - they are in the sun too
Hope
We've inflated Temka, isn't it time to close it? As for the spots, everything has been agreed for a long time. They are and will be, and nothing can be done with them. This does not affect the operation of the stove in any way.
Kapet
To be honest, it is very strange for me to observe such a negative reaction to a quite pertinent topic raised by Yana, a bread-baking pro, and which interested some other members of the forum with a similar problem.
It seems to me that this is nothing but a manifestation of disrespect for these people.

Why don't you also look here at the same time Blade play on the shaft, and not to advise forum users there not to toil the foolishness - since it works, what are your worries ...

IMHO, this is all not friendly
Hope
The topic was opened in December 2007, about 6-7 months after this stove model went on sale. Then we first encountered this problem and the topic was relevant. Now everything has been said about this.
Kapet
Quote: Hope

The topic was opened in December 2007, about 6-7 months after this stove model went on sale. Then we first encountered this problem and the topic was relevant. Now everything has been said about this.
Kick me, the eyeless one, in the right direction - where is all this already said about this?
In October 2008, two bakery masters returned to this topic, in January - a newcomer. Or is there a statute of limitations as a reason to contemptuously condemn "nonsense" (post # 45) of the topic?
Caprice
Quote: Kapet

IMHO, neat people are worried about the appearance of a bread machine, which is part of the entourage of a neat well-groomed kitchen. Conversely, for a sloppy, unkempt kitchen, this is completely irrelevant.

Shl. Did I guess correctly what type of cuisine yours belongs to? Or do we have different ideas about purity and harmony?
No, not right. My kitchen is in order. With harmony too. The difference is that in my HP I bake bread, and do not worry about its "entourage". I also clean it regularly. But, I will repeat: the products used for baking bread plus high temperatures definitely contribute to the formation of indelible spots on the HP plastic. If your HP is intended solely for "entourage" - your right.

Quote: Kapet

No dear CelestineI also go to bed without worrying about the question conditions of the anus of my HP... But, to be honest, with rare routine maintenance on the HP, I still try to return this place to its virgin appearance, so that save HP and yourself from advanced hemorrhoids... Sorry for the naturalistic analogy
Kapet, what a pity that our forum does not have the title "bread baking proctologist". I think you should have appropriated it with full right.
Kapet
Okay, let there be a "bakery proctologist"
No, they made fun of her, even the anger passed.

Shl. And snitching a modernist is still not good
Igorsergeev
Hello everyone! On January 9, I bought a HB of this model with WTS indices and, lo and behold,
that place is dark gray !!! The manufacturer reacted !!! You have been heard, this happens, perhaps, only in the fairy tale about Cinderella !!!
Yana
Lucky you, Igorsergeev! And we, the owners of SD-255, remained with brown spots ...
Kapet
Quote: Igorsergeev

Hello everyone! On January 9, I bought this model's HB with the WTS indices and, lo and behold,
that place is dark gray !!! The manufacturer reacted !!! You have been heard, this happens, perhaps, only in the fairy tale about Cinderella !!!
Could you please clarify exactly which "that place" she has become dark gray. A photo in the studio is desirable.

The question is due to the fact that in HP 25 * “that place” was originally made with an insert of dark gray plastic, as can be seen in the author's photo on the first page of this topic. But the problem, as you can see in those photos, this insert does not solve ...

Shl. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Panasonic HP 25 series * all go to WTS, even if somewhere just 255 or 254 is indicated, without a suffix that determines the external color - no other modifications have been found. That is, I suppose you have absolutely the same model as Yana, the author of the topic. I will be glad for you with Yana if something really has changed in the design ...
Igorsergeev
Unfortunately, you are right, I inattentively saw the photo at the beginning of the forum, was overwhelmed with emotions, I will watch the darkening ...
Nadin
There is an excellent tool: "Shumanit" for plates. For a couple of seconds, the spots are like unprecedented !!!
Nadin
This is what came before him.
Nadin
And that's what after!
Hope
Nadin
Please rename the photos in the Latin alphabet, they are not visible in the Cyrillic alphabet when enlarged.
Nadin

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How and how to clean the stove / bucket
Nadin
The main remedy is not to overexpose !!! Nothing terrible. The color will just be lighter.

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How and how to clean the stove / bucket
Hope
But in my opinion the brown spot still remained, only the lid from the inside became lighter.
Nadin
Actually, I just wiped off the lid. Then I'll try to clean the plastic ...
Shurshun
Help, I came up with a recipe for a dough, but it just flooded - can't be stopped. And at the moment (it's good that I was there) the dough just went to bask in the shadows before our eyes. Shumanite ate my skin on my fingers. Do not use shumanite without gloves! The shadows are slightly cleaned. Now I think to turn it on, but a little carbon remains - I'm afraid the smell will be awful when baking. How to scrub them?
Whimpering Rustle ...
Boo Boo
after such a thorough washing with the means, I think it will not be superfluous to turn on the stove in a blank without a bucket for baking and ignite the ten with an open lid a little, the smell should disappear.
Shurshun
Bubushechka, I understand that, I wiped them, and I will turn them on empty, only the question is: how to wipe them properly, these shadows. Shumanit did not completely launder them.
Boo Boo
I don’t know, I’m not very clean, but I don’t bother. Firstly, they are not visible, and secondly, it does not affect the quality.
Lanca
I have never been dusty with flour, but ten on the one hand showed some kind of brown soot or something, as if the sugar was burnt in a thin thin layer, I can’t wash it completely so baked that I can’t come to the initial purity. and so my bucket Prill and wipe it dry.
Len_usik
When baking the muffin, the dough rose strongly and escaped from the bucket, due to which at the very beginning of baking the escaped dough began to burn. I turned off the bread maker and took out the bucket. The most horrible thing is that the dough fell down and down into the recess where the bucket is inserted.

After cooling down, I washed the bread maker and tried to clean the dough as much as possible.

Apparently, somewhere the dough was left, now with any attempt to bake a bread machine, there is a white smoke and a distinct smell of burnt.

And what to do now - take the bread maker to the service or let the remaining dough "burn out"? Isn't it harmful?
Renata
Check shade (or shades) for dough residue. After such a case, I cleaned everything inside well, including washing the lid and all the holes in it as much as possible (with a damp cloth, without detergent, and the holes with a toothpick, with a cotton ball wound on the tip), checked the shades. At first, when baking, there was a burning smell, but not strong, then it disappeared too.
Do not despair, my husband's mom completely put the bread products directly into the oven twice, forgetting to insert the bucket and nothing, washed it well and so far there were no interruptions in work!
But, nevertheless, it would be better to turn to specialists if in doubt.

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