Sens
dopleta ,
I am ready to listen to your vision of the situation!
I need a multicooker with a bread maker function ... that is, so that there are two buckets ...

but if I don't find one. then I'll buy a slow cooker just with pastries ...

so...
Doplet, please ...
lega
Quote: balerian1

judging by the fact that (as someone wrote here) Viscount - Panas clone, then their chips must be the same.

Such conclusions that clone, are made solely in appearance and description. How much I searched, I could not find where someone carried out a parallel test of two devices in order to draw practical conclusions.
Here is Redmond 4503 in appearance and descriptions not worse, and even better (there are more programs), but the only (so far) reviews are very alarming.

lega
Quote: Sens

dopleta ,

Doblet, please ...

Forgive me for interfering, but Dopplet gave you the address ...
dopleta
Sens, I golly, very embarrassed before t. Basichkoythat we litter a non-core topic, but, as the owner of Binaton and various other CF and SC, I will not advise you very quickly (and so far there are only two symbiosis of CF with HP - Binaton and Yunold, they are full clones).
dopleta
Yes, a good thing, too. Only, it seems, they disappeared from sale.
Ronaverona
Quote: lga

Such conclusions that clone, are made solely in appearance and description. How much I searched, I could not find where someone carried out a parallel test of two devices in order to draw practical conclusions.
Here is Redmond 4503 in appearance and descriptions not worse, and even better (there are more programs), but the only (so far) reviews are very alarming.
Of course, the word "clone" in a figurative sense. Painfully, these multicooker are similar However, Panasonic's recipes are perfect for Visonte. Just take into account the great power of the Viscount.
And the comparison is carried out on the Multicooker website. There is not much information yet, but every day the topic of comparing Panasonic and Viscount is growing.
lega
All! Hurrah! They brought me the 45th Marusya ... I checked everything, everything is in order. Only the cook was not there, but this is a trifle, I gave mine, I still don’t use it. Boiled with lemon on Steam. The basket smells, of course, but not much. But now I understand those who feel good even without a drip tray. For five minutes (by default) there are indeed a few drops of condensation on the side. Nothing spilled from the valve onto the table. Most of the condensation ended up in the rubber band of the lid. The design of the lid lock in the 45th is more reliable than in the 47th. There should not be such gaps as in my Marusa.
An already acquaintance came and took it. That's it, I shot.
IRR
Quote: lga


That's it, I shot.
But those pipes, Galechka! All the current begins - now they will call, wondering - what is this button, and what is this mode? And why does the porridge run away? etc. etc. etc.
shl. In general, well done, I chose even better than myself. I would trust you
lega
Quote: IRR

But those pipes, Galechka! All the current begins - now they will call, wondering - what is this button, and what is this mode? And why does the porridge run away? etc. etc. etc.
shl. In general, well done, I chose even better than myself. I would trust you

It's easier for yourself to choose. You risk your own money, and then strangers ... Yes, and Vovka did not want to substitute ... What if his lady does not like it? ...
Ikra
I apologize if suddenly my questions have already been answered in this thread. Honestly, I just did not master the whole branch, so I walked diagonally. But I hope that the hostesses of the multicooker will answer me. Because I was seriously thinking about buying, and there is absolutely no place in the kitchen. Therefore, it would be nice if you could throw something out if the functions of other kitchen appliances are combined in the multicooker.
So...
Somewhere in the internet, it flashed that there is such a slow cooker in which you can even bake bread. I am tormented by vague doubts Someone saw this miracle alive?
And how do you get, for example, all sorts of casseroles, muffins and charlottes in slow cookers, and in which ones do they turn out?
That is, I aimed, at least, to get rid of the old stove with an oven and buy myself one panel, and maybe (oh, horror!) From a bread machine. But only if it's worth it.
dopleta
Quote: Ikra


Somewhere in the internet, it flashed that there is such a slow cooker in which you can even bake bread. I am tormented by vague doubts Someone saw this miracle alive?

Not only in the internet, but also on our forum. And not only saw, but also used. And no further, as yesterday I did NOT advise one of our members of the forum to buy it.
IRR
Ikra,: flowers: it was easier for me to change the stove to a multicooker. But leave the oven !!!! Categorically. And the bread maker too.
dopleta
Quote: IRR

But leave the oven !!!! Categorically. And the bread maker too.

+1. And Binaton 2170 (MV + HP) do not buy!
Rina
There are two available hybrids "bread maker + slow cooker" - binaton and yunold. Binaton is located in the CIS. Yunold is a German animal, but it seems to have been removed from sale
I will say right away - a hybrid does not justify itself. The bandura is rather big. In the multicooker mode, baking all sorts of casseroles and charlottes does not work (only in a bread maker). As for the quality of the bread ... well, I like it more from Panas.
How a Yunold multicooker works perfectly. All sorts of cereals, stews, soups - just with a bang.

So, if I had a question about choosing a more optimal set, I would not hesitate to take a separate multicooker and a separate bread maker.

Ikra
Thank you all very much! You quickly and efficiently dispelled my doubts. I will not refuse a bread machine for anything! And about a simple multicooker - I'll think of it as an additional camping-country gadget. Which of the inexpensive looks the most worthy?
Rina
Quote: Ikra

And about a simple multicooker - I'll think of it as an additional camping-country gadget. Which of the inexpensive looks the most worthy?
if really "marching" (that is, to carry on yourself or you need an extremely compact model), then Panasonic or Viscount. If you drive by car and the minimum external volume and weight are not so important, then here it is already easy to choose and choose ...

You can also pay attention to simple rice cookers with two modes (if the voltage "drops" strongly in the country, then at least the electronics in the rice cooker will not burn out). Only so that the lid snaps into place, like on Panasonic.
Gypsy
* break up? to smithereens? half a liter? .. Yes, I will ..! *

Oven, bread maker are the most necessary things in the kitchen!

For compactness, a slow cooker, a rice cooker can be bought not for 5 liters, but for 2 liters. A hob for 2 pots .. but an oven is needed, at least a tabletop one for 16 liters
MariV
I didn't have access to the stove for two weeks - repairs in the kitchen. If not for the cartoon skrovarka, they would have died of hunger! And I also ordered the workers to feed them, so that they would not be distracted from the repairs and where they would not drink or eat. I practically did not turn off my la-kuchinka - how she helped me out! I easily did without a stove - with my bunch and HP.!
Ikra
Yeah ... I'm starting to understand ... About the flap lid - special thanks, I'll know.
A 2 liter multicooker is enough for my eyes. I'll go look at the assortment, but I would also like to clarify: the names of the sea!
Rice cooker, cooker - can you make soup, pilaf, stew in them? In the sense - will master the meat?
And about the stove (I have gas) - I saw such a thing on the internet: there are gas burners on top, a small electric oven in the middle, and a dishwasher below. For some reason I did not meet in the store.
Rina
Here, read what rice cookers are, and what you can cook in them
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=289.0.

Rice cooker - This can be a very budget option.
A large volume (4-5 liters) is not small, but it will be possible to cook two plates of porridge, and lunch for friends, relatives or some other Tartars who suddenly fell on their heads.

Here, one of the best recipes for a simple rice cooker. You can look for a similar one in Moscow - maybe it will also turn out to be Clatronic or its twin SEVERIN.
lega
Quote: Ikra

Yeah ... I'm starting to understand ... About the flap lid - special thanks, I'll know.

Rice cooker, cooker - can you make soup, pilaf, stew in them? In the sense - will master the meat?
Rice cooker, cooker, double cooker, multicooker - on the internet these devices can be found under different names, but this is just an electric pan. Anyone can handle your soup, porridge, meat. Different cartoons have slightly different advantages and disadvantages. First, buy the simplest and cheapest one. Master, feel, then you yourself will understand you need Yoghurts and Fries, or maybe with pressure ...

I just chose a cartoon for friends. There are a lot of names, in reality you can't buy everything. If you find the Viscount VS-600 in Moscow, then take it without hesitation. They are not in St. Petersburg now. La kuchinny - absent, Marucci -47s are also over. Marucci 45 is quite worthy of a cartoon, the price is divine (I bought it for 2700 rubles), the lock is reliable, there are enough programs. Now there are a lot of Mulinex and Vesok on sale, but they did not look to me. Although it may be in vain, but having used the 47th Marusya, I think that white or colored plastic is better than stainless steel - it's more practical, otherwise you have to wipe your fingers all the time or the view is unkempt - a bogie from scratch.
Ikra
I went to choose-watch
I realized that it is important that the lid snaps into place, and also that the lid is removable in order to wash conveniently. What else should you pay attention to?
Rina
Quote: Ikra

Rice cooker, cooker - can you make soup, pilaf, stew in them? In the sense - will master the meat?

gypsy aaaaaaaaa! Where is your educational program on rice, porridge, multi- and other cooking?

Let's go in order. Once such an electric pot was invented - a rice cooker. It is rice, since rice is cooked more in Asia. Over time, rice cookers got very good development, they began to be made with electronic control, programming, etc. But they remained rice cookers, only the programs could be for 5-6-8 types of different rice.
For the European and American markets, this option was no longer very suitable. therefore, some of the options for cooking rice began to be replaced with programs and modes more familiar to non-Asians.

When such an advanced rice cooker was promoted to the Eastern European market, the name gave potential customers the impression that such a saucepan could only cook rice. Then they tried to name a cooker (it seems that this applies to simple rice cookers) and a multicooker (this is already with electronic control and several programs for very different dishes).

Now our markets have:
multicooker - all sorts of electric pots, which usually contain several programs in different sets (rice / buckwheat, pilaf, stewing, pastries, yogurt, soup, noodles, milk porridge ...)
rice cookers - electric pots with mechanical control, usually there are two modes: cook (cook) and kip worm (keep warm), there may be another third - porridge (vegetables).

There may also be multicooker pressure cookers that are cooked with high pressure. Here, too, there are two options - such that they can only cook at high pressure, and those that can cook this way or that.
balerian1
Quote: Ikra

I went to choose-watch
I realized that it is important that the lid snaps into place, and also that the lid is removable in order to wash conveniently. What else should you pay attention to?

About the removable cover. And why take it off? ..... It is already clean ... For example - the photo shows the MB cover after about 20-25 times of use. Cooking: rice porridge - 7 times, Millet porridge - 4 times, meat and potatoes - 6 times, chicken with vegetables - 3 times ... after cooking, they only washed the pan ..... the lid was not even wiped
Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)

And this is a photo of the heating element of this MV
Choosing a slow cooker, rice cooker (1)

It is clear enough that he is used
Gypsy
Rina, the topic was * Risovarka. Rice cooker recipes (not just rice) *. I think here it is
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=20692.0
I did not look at all, the first post like it.
balerian1
Quote: gypsy

balerian1, but did you cook a full pan or on the bottom?

recipe for rice porridge - 1 liter of milk + 2 m. glasses of rice ... I made meat with potatoes by eye ... there was about 1.5 kg of meat ..... potatoes - 8 medium tubers
zvezda
And I haven’t used the stove for more than a year !!!!!!! Only in CF I cook everything !!!
dopleta
Quote: balerian1

About the removable cover. And why take it off? ..... She is already clean ...
Not, balerian, sorry, but your pictures are not an argument. Once upon a time it is not necessary. After one dish the lid is clean, after another it is splattered. This is why it is made removable so that it is easy to wash the splashed one.
balerian1
Quote: dopleta

Not, balerian, sorry, but your pictures are not an argument. Once upon a time it is not necessary. After one dish the lid is clean, after another it is splattered. This is why it is made removable so that it is easy to wash the splashed one.

Write a recipe for the dish after which your lid is splattered ...
IRR
Quote: balerian1

Write a recipe for the dish after which your lid is splattered ...
I fry the cutlets. Write a recipe? (Nothing personal. I didn't want to intersect with you,)
balerian1
Quote: IRR

I fry the cutlets. Write a recipe? (Nothing personal. I didn't want to intersect with you,)

1. I posted photos of VICONTA! .... (may the moderator not take the name MV as hidden advertising)
2. In this MV NO frying programs
3. As correctly noted on this site, a slow cooker is an ELECTRIC POT ... fry in a pan ?? ..... cool ... I have not tried it yet
4. This MV has the ability to remove the cover .... how to do it - I can post a photo

(nothing personal, just answered the question)
Ikra
Do I understand correctly that a slow cooker can make yogurt? Anyone? And what about katyk-matsoni? In my opinion, this is about one process.
dopleta
Quote: balerian1

... fry in a pan ?? ..... cool ... I have not tried it yet

Many CFs have a frying mode. In order not to transfer, for example, a frying for soup from a frying pan into a saucepan. And for many other purposes. For frying, in short. But the lid gets dirty in other modes as well.
balerian1
Quote: dopleta

Many CFs have a frying mode. In order not to transfer, for example, a frying for soup from a frying pan into a saucepan. And for many other purposes. For frying, in short. But the lid gets dirty in other modes as well.
I'm certainly not an expert in cooking ..... but PASSING for soup I make either in a frying pan .. or in MV with OPEN lid
IRR
Quote: balerian1


3. As correctly noted on this site, a slow cooker is an ELECTRIC POT ... fry in a pan ?? ..... cool ... I have not tried it yet
try rice in your slow cooker on the prog - fry the chicken - 20 minutes on one side, open, turn over and 20 minutes. another. Or a couples program. IMHO it should work out
Rina
Quote: balerian1

3. As correctly noted on this site, a slow cooker is an ELECTRIC POT ... fry in a pan ?? ..... cool ... I have not tried it yet
and again, and I repeat again - this is an electric pan. That is, you shouldn't use it as a frying pan EVERY DAY.
But you need to know about the possibility of frying something.
balerian1
Quote: IRR

try rice in your slow cooker on the prog - fry the chicken - 20 minutes on one side, open, turn over and 20 minutes. another. Or a couples program. IMHO it should work out

With frying chicken, the airfryer does a great job ... it turns out delicious
Rina , excuse me, but you also pass through with the MV lid CLOSED?
dopleta
Quote: balerian1

I'm certainly not an expert in cooking ..... but PASSING for soup I make either in a frying pan .. or in MV with OPEN lid
Passing and frying are still slightly different things.
balerian1
Quote: dopleta

Passing and frying are still slightly different things.

the fact of the matter is that they are different ... for the soup they make a sauté ... and not fry
Rina
no, I'm just against frying in pans. Simmer vegetables in oil wherever it went.

On the question of the removable lid: even from the boiling broth, the smallest splashes of fat rise, which settles on the lid.
balerian1
Quote: Rina

no, I'm just against frying in pans. Simmer vegetables in oil wherever it went.

On the question of the removable lid: even from the boiling broth, the smallest splashes of fat rise, which settles on the lid.
agree - settle ...but then you can simply wipe it (the cover) ... why take it off for this ??
balerian1
Quote: dopleta

Do not envy you so much balerianthat we have functions that can stain the lid!

How did you get the idea that I envy you?
Rina
Quote: balerian1

1. I posted photos of VICONTA! .... (may the moderator not take the name MV as hidden advertising)
........................ .............
4. This MV has the ability to remove the cover .... how to do it - I can post a photo
what are you, what are you! We here advise with the choice of rice cookers and multicooker and never name specific brands and models! (just kidding)

For photos, how to remove the cover, please!
Moreover, there is a suitable technical department
balerian1
Quote: Rina

what are you, what are you! We here advise with the choice of rice cookers and multicooker and never name specific brands and models! (just kidding)

For photos, how to remove the cover, please!
Moreover, there is a suitable technical department
not a question ... but only the Viscounts ... oops ... here we go again
dopleta
Quote: balerian1

Where did you get the idea that I envy you?

And you don’t understand the jokes ...
Quote: balerian1

I agree - they settle ... but then you can just wipe it (the cover) ... why take it off for this ??

Wash Schaub! Schaub was clean!
Rina
Quote: balerian1

I agree - they settle ... but then you can just wipe it (the cover) ... why take it off for this ??
Have you ever had to wash a pan after a long period of non-use? And more ... We are women, sometimes we give the pots for use to our beloved men, who most often do not consider it necessary to wipe this very lid. And we, upon returning from vacation, hospital (God forbid), business trips have to wash these very pans from polymerized fat.

Therefore, for someone a removable cover is very useful in technology, but someone will do without a "dismemberment" ...
IRR
Quote: Rina


Moreover, there is a suitable technical department
especially since April 3, there has been a question on the topic

Quote: pfzw

Such a question: I cooked vegetables in MV with garlic and all kinds of peppers and other aromas, it turned out superb, but after washing, there was a smell, as it turned out from the gum on the lid. After a couple of days of airing, the smell still remained. The lid, as I understand it, cannot be removed - what can I do?
Is that your cover being removed? really? We want to see!

Quote: dopleta


Wash Schaub! Schaub was clean!
the first time I see I will add so got it
Rina
and more ... a completely standard lid contamination is milk or foam from some cereals. To wash milk - sometimes very serious efforts are required.
balerian1
Quote: dopleta

And you don’t understand the jokes ...
Wash Schaub! Schaub was clean!

yes, I understand a joke .. just washing the lid is suicide ... well, it is not airtight !!! ... when washing between the top and bottom, water gets in ... and what will happen to it then ?? ..... so ONLY WIPE ... with a damp sponge
IRR
Quote: balerian1

yes, I understand the joke .. just washing the lid is suicide ...
just wiping the lid is masturbation! Sami ... where is the smiley that signifies?
shl. Even Panasonic wash themselves, turn over under the stream of water and wash themselves, although this is inconvenient. What kind of suicide and leaks are we talking about?

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