Vilapo
Quote: natalisha_31

Likewise, I thought that only me with a mixer in the shower. It is very difficult to adjust the shower mixer so that the water is normal.
Girls, as long as there is the Internet and we will not be beaten for mixers in the topic of mixers with slippers, I boast what I saw in a hotel in Vienna, it seems called a thermostatic mixer. You set the temperature and wash, super. And in Vienna, I saw a Boshevsky combine such as mine and for only 99 euros ...
Anna1957
Quote: Lozja

I have another problem. I thought it was because the pipes were crooked. Yeah, the apartment is already different, but the trouble is the same - the water for the shower is very difficult to regulate. It's just some kind of kapets - it's cold, you turn the tap 1 mm - it's almost boiling water. Average is very difficult to make. In my memory, this is already about the 5th mixer, if you count both apartments.

Try tightening the hot pipe valve slightly (reduce the head). It helped me.
izumka
Hurrah! My mixer is working !!! The husband disassembled, lubricated everything and he earned! It can be seen that all the lubricant was used up from overheating, and now I'm back with a mixer. I got used to him very much, he suits me in all respects, so it was a pity that he was out of order. It's good that everything turned out so well!
Irina Dolars
He worked for me like that !!! And cups are still in use
But the price is still too high.
celfh
Irina, so I bought it for 1300 rubles. But, to be honest, if it hadn't turned up for me, I would have bought this one for 2300.
The cups are really super cool, now I have two
Xena1976
Girls, I need advice about the Clatronic KM 3400 food processor. Who owns such wealth, please answer, it is very necessary !! The old mixer burned out today, and on the horizon, orders need to be bought and do not want to get into a hole.
kirch
And I also want to know about the Clathronic KM 3400
Xena1976
Eh, nobody wants to talk to me !! Probably they are sleeping ... but I am not sleeping, I choose everything between a mixer and a harvester, my husband said that I would not fool my head and ordered both manual and stationary, (because both are needed in the work) This is supposedly a gift for the New Year !! I was so happy that I hardly slept all night - now I was thinking for two mixers! ! I chose Tefal HT 4101 3E 450 W 5 speeds ... I already clicked order but I was confused by the plastic mounts of the corollas !! Will they fly apart ?? Then about the kitchens. harvester - I also found Clatronic ProfiCook PC-KM 1004 - what a beast, the whole Internet was rummaged - it's not clear !! What is his body? There are no reviews at all, and the price is reasonable. Maybe someone is familiar with him, tell me. The Clatronic KM 3400 is of course interesting - there are also no reviews on it. What a vicious circle !! PLIZ !!!
Daffi
Clathronics are discussing in a thread with dough mixing machines https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=8100.460
Made in China. The brand pretends to be German, but in fact, the quality does not shine. That is, it will work, but how long is a big question.

If you need a good dough mixer for little money, why not choose a BOSCH MUM 5 series with a power of 700 W (1400-1600 UAH) or 900 W (2100-2300 UAH)? Made in Slovenia. Nobody complains about the quality. You will receive a dough mixer, shredder graters, stationary blender. Beats proteins, makes different types of dough, including yeast, bread and dumplings.

You can purchase any mixer for this combine, even the most budgetary mixer, if you really need it. I bought a Bosch 3530 with a power of 450 watts. I'm very happy!
Trendy
Xena1976 , and Profikuk discussed here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0 and even someone bought it.
Natka8
Good day to all! There is no time to read the whole topic, can anyone have a manual Mixer PANASONIC MKGH 1 WTQ, power 200W_How does it work? I have a panas-och technique. I am satisfied, but for the first time I hear about a mixer. I need it for creams (wet meringue, etc.) Thank you.
Daffi
Quote: Natka8

Good day to all! There is no time to read the whole topic, can anyone have a manual Mixer PANASONIC MKGH 1 WTQ, power 200W_How does it work? I have a panas-och technique. I am satisfied, but for the first time I hear about a mixer. I need it for creams (wet meringue, etc.) Thank you.
I also looked at him, but did not choose. Because I dug it out on foreign Internet that the time of continuous use is 5 minutes. It didn't suit me.
Information about the time of continuous work is either in Indian, or on the Malay website of Panasonic.

And the Electrolux mixer can be used even less - as much as 2 minutes, and then let it rest for 20 minutes (this is indicated in the instructions).

So I bought a Bosch 3530 and so far I'm happy. 450 W in it is fiction, but it does the job. True yeast dough is not very tough for him.
Natka8
Thank you very much I also wanted Bosch, but I'm confused by the plastic on the corollas. I have a zelmer, so the plastic falls off in pieces, like Phillips have metal ones, but there is almost no feedback about them ...
Irina Dolars
Quote: Natka8

... but there are almost no reviews about them ...
I had a phillips.
The mixer is heavy. High quality plastic. The stamp on the body is squeezed out (not a paint drawing, and not a sticker).
Made in Slovenia. He served for a long time. I'm quite happy with it
Daffi
Quote: Natka8

Thank you very much I also wanted Bosch, but I'm confused by the plastic on the corollas. I have a zelmer, so the plastic falls off in pieces, like Phillips have metal ones, but there is almost no feedback about them ...
I was also embarrassed by the plastic on the corollas in Boch. But he's really normal, doesn't fall off.
I also considered Phillips, but rejected it because it is very noisy. I also rejected it because the guarantee is not a repair, but an exchange one. And the working time is limited to 5 or 10 minutes. And they make it in China.

And in German tests Bosch beats Philips and Tefal, second only to Krups and Brown (these mixers are not sold in our country).
Natka8
Girls, thanks for the advice. I have a stationary BOSH harvester, and a hand mixer, mainly for wet meringues, I decorate all the cakes with it, and there you need to work for about 10 minutes, a heavy hand will disappear, but is Bosch not heavy? And is 350 enough for this cream? After all, I started to read Temka, there at the beginning they scold Bosch for bad plastic ...
Irina Dolars
And I look at a mixer on the Internet, and then I go to a large store and examine and feel everything
I will not dare to buy without a thorough check
Daffi
Quote: Natka8

Girls, thanks for the advice. I have a stationary BOSH harvester, and a hand mixer, mainly for wet meringues, I decorate all the cakes with it, and there you need to work for about 10 minutes, a heavy hand will disappear, but is Bosch not heavy? And is 350 enough for this cream? After all, I started to read Temka, there, at the beginning, they scold Bosch for bad plastic ...
Bosch is lightweight (about 800g) and very quiet. This is its huge plus. I agree that you need to go to the store and watch it live. I generally wanted to buy Gorene, but when I saw it in the store, I experienced an unpleasant shock.

Bosch is beautiful, lightweight, low-noise, quiet, comfortable. I cannot say that it is very powerful, but it whips proteins no worse than the Bosch MUM 4655 combine.

For comparison: a Bosch mixer weighs 800 g, Zelmer - 1 kg, Gorene - 1.2-1.5 kg, Electrolux - 1.7 kg.
Natka8
Thank you Do not think that I am too lazy to study the issue, I just got so worn out lately with the choice of equipment (combine, meat grinder, bread maker ...) studying and weighing all the pros and cons in detail, that when I began to play the mixer, I started to quiet hysterical, I think: I will ask and buy what they will advise, but, apparently, it will not work out that way, I’m sitting reading Temko, my head is already spinning ... By the way, I have a selmer who has weights, so they immediately went out of order and shook him because of them, the plastic is also fragile, but here everyone praises whoever is lucky ... Maybe someone still has a panasik - maybe they lie in reviews about 5 minutes ...
Creamy
I myself would add that a good mixer should have a power of at least 600 watts (it can easily knead any steep dumplings dough in 10 seconds) and the "Turbo" mode is also very good for whipping in some cases.
Daffi
Quote: Natka8

Girls and boys, and whoever has a Bosch 4020, it seems like the corollas are completely metal, I'll probably take it ...
All Bosch mixers have whisk with plastic at the end. Even Bosch 4020! The mixer is good, power is 500 W, lightweight, convenient. The balls help to whip up a fluffier mass.
Daffi
For balls and more volume, pure marketing. So think about whether it is worth overpaying 100 UAH for it. Bosch 4020 also looks stylish, but is it important to you?
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Irina Dolars
I always look closely at the power, weight of the mixer, the quality of the plastic and the mark on the case after using the light, cheap one with a sticker on the side (it quickly heated up and did not live long).

Although now they have often become a fool with new bells and whistles and power (it sometimes does not match).
Daffi
Bosch can hardly be called "cheap". It is almost the most expensive just. The quality of the plastic is good, the fact that the weight is small is an advantage. Quiet is also a virtue.

I already wrote about the tests conducted by the German site Test.de. Bosch lost only to Brown and Krups, which we do not sell. Are there any alternatives? They are always there! You can take Gorene, Philips, Panasonic, Kenwood, Moulinex or Tefal. Or even a Chinese non-name (I had one - they gave it).

There is a difference between Chinese noname and Bosch, and a significant one. Don't believe me? Check it yourself. I've had this experience before, so I know what I'm talking about
Irina Dolars
And how to distinguish Chinese from non-Chinese when buying? When did they overwhelm the whole world now?
And on the price tag they write what they like.
Daffi
Quote: Irina Dolars

And how to distinguish Chinese from non-Chinese when buying? When did they overwhelm the whole world now?
And on the price tag they write what they like.
Do you still take information about the product from the store price tags? Do you still believe in sales assistants? Then we go to you!

You made me laugh, I'm sorry Go to any site decent manufacturer. It contains all the information about the product, including the country of origin. Nobody hides this information. What for? On the manufacturer's website, you will find out the technical characteristics, equipment, you can download the instructions.

A Chinese mixer and a brand-name mixer made in China are two big differences. Hope you can understand this. Do not think that the Chinese non-name assembled on the knee is the same as the Philips manufactured at a factory in China.
Irina Dolars
HA! And I, being in the store, do not laugh, but I spit and I do not allow consultants to take a cannon shot.
And sometimes there are branded goods and small manufacturers under the same brand on the shelves.
Daffi
Quote: Irina Dolars

And sometimes there are branded goods and small manufacturers under the same brand on the shelves.
Decipher, pliz.
Irina Dolars
Now I can be mistaken in details ...

I had a lot of mixers. Once I see my Philips on sale) ... Very similar. Yes, not the same
The plastic is thin. Whisks made of unknown metal ... The price is lower. It's good to have something to compare with.
Moreover, there is a large retail network, but goods of dubious quality seep even there. They do not hesitate to purchase cheap goods.
And the Chinese "comrades" do not stop in their skills.
It is possible that there are many such goods.
But you just want to come and buy without straining.

P.S. And the computer was not always available.

Daffi
Quote: Irina Dolars

Once I see my Philips on sale ... Very similar ... But not the same
The plastic is thin. Whisks made of unknown metal ... The price is lower. It's good to have something to compare with.
But this mixer did not say that it was Philips. It was a different trade brand... In fact, it was a copy that sells for less money. So there can be no complaints about Philips - these are not their products at all
And the Chinese "comrades" do not stop in their skills. It is possible that there will be a lot of such goods. But you just want to come and buy without straining.
In order not to be excruciatingly painful after buying household appliances, you need to choose goods from well-known manufacturers. More often than not, this removes 95% of all complaints.
But even such a technique must be carefully chosen. FIRST you need to make an effort, not be lazy, study the proposals of well-known manufacturers, look at the technical characteristics, read reviews.And if you want to "just come and buy without straining", then you will get the products of the Chinese counterparts as a result, but cheap. Or something branded, but not what you needed.

Moreover, there is a large retail network, but goods of dubious quality seep even there. They do not hesitate to purchase cheap goods.
Large retail chains buy household appliances for DIFFERENT categories of consumers. And consumers are really different. Someone is looking for quality, and someone is looking for a low price. I will never buy non-name appliances or products from the Vitek brand. At the same time, the girls in the neighboring branch are firmly convinced that this Vityok can be safely bought and used. And no amount of argument will convince them that this technique is really different from what Bosch or Brown does. And not only the price, but also the quality, technical content, etc.

Lyrical digression:

If you see that a store sells the same type of appliances that have DIFFERENT brands, this does not mean that the appliances are made on the knee. This means that it is manufactured in China under an OEM license. In theory, it may be bad, but it may turn out to be quite efficient and will last for many years if used carefully.

You don't have to look far for an example. Multi-cookers Dex-50 have been successfully sold in Ukraine for 2 years already (they have not been sold or sold in Russia). They look exactly like Morphy Richards' multicooker. This does not mean that they were made on the knee. This is a good technique that works well for many girls. And nobody hides the truth - Dex-50 is a copy of Morphy Richards, produced under license at the Philips plant in China.

And what do you think happened next? Philips decided that "you need such a cow yourself" and began to produce exactly the same multicooker. Now it is sold both in Russia and in Ukraine. But more expensive! And Dex-50 is no longer produced, because Dex no longer has a license for their production.
Lika_n
Recently, something has become my hand overheat (still dew) while I think to look after him, if suddenly something .. to replace.
tell me about this one, it's worth taking it
Dex DHM-960 it with a bowl.
Irina Dolars
I didn't use it. But I would look more powerful
kirch
I was also concerned about the choice of a mixer. Wanted with a bowl and more powerful. After a long search, I stopped here on this He 500 watts and a bowl of 3 liters, in contrast to the Boshevsky one, in which 2 liters. I wanted, of course, a professional one. But I can't even buy it, not because of the price, but because of the size. There is nowhere to put, and to drag back and forth is heavy. In general, after much thought and estimation, I bought a Bosch MUM 54240 combine
Irina Dolars
Here are the reviews on the market:


BOSCH MUM 54240
The usual model. Experience of use: less than a month

Advantages: 1) perfectly kneads the dough
2) the blender whips everything perfectly
3) takes up little space

Disadvantages: 1) very fragile material from which the blender is made ... fell and a piece broke off ...
2) the plastic part that drives the auger for the meat grinder broke literally after a few uses ... replacement 450 rubles. ("the guarantee does not apply"), it is not the budget to change this way every time ... although, maybe, where and cheaper it can be found ...
3) three grating disks are attached, of which one is very large and two are small, and a medium (standard) one ... so you will have to buy (600 rubles)

Comment: here she showed the men her broken part from the meat grinder, they say that it is light, aluminum, the quality is not ice at all ... they say, Braun is better.
Since there is nothing to compare with and there are both "pluses" and "minuses", I rate it "3".


Ukka
Quote: Lika_n

tell me about this one, it's worth taking it
Dex DHM-960 it with a bowl.
Do you need a cup? And here is what Zelmer found, power 400 watts
I bought myself a stationary Bosch 4427, but it is not suitable for "Wet meringue" (completely stationary)
In general, Ros is unlikely to be replaced with anything ... I dumped mine on the "Wet meringue" (though I bought it for him at the flea market for 20 UAH), the plastic gear on the mount of one of the corollas was worn out ... Now I go to the flea market again, I want still Ros for spare parts to buy.
kirch
Yeah, I know these shortcomings, but they do not interest me. I have a good meat grinder. And three advantages are what I need. I bought it because of its compactness and the ability to whip and knead. There was an opportunity to order in Germany without a meat grinder (we have no such), but decided to overpay in order to have a guarantee
Lika_n
ukka while my dew starts to heat up on charlotte .. until you beat 4 squirrels with sugar .. it starts to smell, you have to turn it off, and keep it, so I look with a bowl ..
Daffi
BOSCH MUM 54240
Disadvantages: 1) very fragile material from which the blender is made ... fell and a piece broke off ...
2) the plastic part that drives the auger for the meat grinder broke literally after a few uses ... replacement 450 rubles. ("the guarantee does not apply"), it is not the budget to change this way every time ... although, maybe, where and cheaper it can be found ...
3) three grating disks are attached, of which one is very large and two are small, and a medium (standard) one ... so you will have to buy (600 rubles)

Comment: here she showed the men her broken part from the meat grinder, they say that it is light, aluminum, the quality is not ice at all ... they say, Braun is better.
Since there is nothing to compare with and there are both "pluses" and "minuses", I rate it "3".
To a bad dancer ... I have a Bosch MUM 4655 working for 8 years, so everything depends on the user.

1) The blender is made of plastic, so (quite naturally) it will crack or break if dropped.
2) The plastic part that is broken is the fuse. It breaks down when the grinder is overloaded. Thus, the combine engine saves from breakdown. Everything is logical and well thought out.
3) I agree about graters, they have to be bought. But this is true in any combine, even in Brown.

If you need a stationary mixer, it is better to buy the cheapest Bosch MUM available. Because no stationary mixer stood next to it. Now MUM 5 series with a power of 700 W (without a meat grinder) is sold for 1400 UAH. in online stores.
Galleon-6
I also bought a Bosch MUM 4655 two weeks ago, so far I am very satisfied. I would like you to help me figure out the slicing discs that each disc can chop, you have a huge experience in using.
Daffi
Quote: Goleon 6

I also bought a Bosch MUM 4655 two weeks ago, so far I am very satisfied. I would like you to help me figure out the slicing discs that each disc can chop, you have a huge experience in using.
Single-sided disc with small holes for grating cheese and chocolate. I do not use it.
Double-sided shredder shredded cabbage for pickling, apples for pie, potatoes for frying. You can chop onions, bell peppers, carrots, zucchini. But I don't
Every year I rub apples for jam with a double-sided grater with large holes. It turns out very tasty. They can be used to rub zucchini, potatoes, carrots and other vegetables. It is convenient to grate the pumpkin and then freeze it.
I do not use the second side of the disc.

I bought a julienne grater. Rubbing Korean carrots, beets for caviar. They can be very finely chopped onions. Apples can be rubbed.
I rarely use the French fries disc. I don't cut potatoes for them, but sometimes I cut cabbage for stewing. This filling goes well in pies.
Daffi
Quote: Goleon 6

Thank you so much for the detailed description, everything is clear.
You are welcome. You can also cut champignons with a shredder disc.
Matilda
Lika_n Haven't you bought a DEX DHM-960 yet? I also look at him.
Matilda
Quote: Lika_n

Matilda no, while I am studying the question, I think, feel it.
we have nowhere to touch it .. but I really like the dex blender.
Lika_n
I have an Internet magician nearby - it's cheaper .. if I think about it, it will be possible to look at the office, if I just don't see a magician in the near future.
Natka8
Quote: Daffi

All Bosch mixers have whisk with plastic at the end. Even Bosch 4020! The mixer is good, power is 500 W, lightweight, convenient. The balls help to whip up a fluffier mass.
I took BOSCH 4020 - the whisks are completely metal (plastic only at the ends, which are inserted into the mixer itself), which is what I needed.I am surprised why sellers do not focus on this in the description of this model, because this is cool and many are looking for metal, all other things being equal ... In general, I will test it, but it looks very beautiful.
ksuxa198721
My mother was presented with a vitek vt-1406 mixer, he has a rotating bowl in his instructions, but for some reason it does not rotate. Maybe I put something wrong, although I don't know what could have been put wrong there. Maybe someone has such a model, tell me, is it true that the bowl does not rotate or is it a marriage?
Irina Dolars
I had another stationary one, but it worked according to the same principle. The teeth are given so that the gears push the bowl when the engine is running. There was a moment when I put it wrong, and the bowl did not rotate. Check it one more time. Should stand up tight. Precisely on the thread.
ksuxa198721
Quote: Irina Dolars

I had another stationary one, but it worked according to the same principle. The teeth are given so that the gears push the bowl when the engine is running. There was a moment when I put it wrong, and the bowl did not rotate. Check it one more time. Should stand up tight. Exactly on the thread.

Yes, I tried it several times ... I have a Bosch, and so everything turns well there. And my mother probably gave a defective vitek. Well, okay, I'll be with her, I'll take another look. Well, maybe there is still someone here on the forum with the same mixer.
NataST
Good day everyone! There was a question of purchasing a new mixer, my old one could not stand the loads. I'm looking closely at Bosh 4020, Bosh 3530 - who has them - please share your impressions - cope with tasks, how many work without interruption and which is the best of these models? Thanks in advance to everyone who responded!
Daffi
I have a Bosch 3530. Sponge dough, whipped proteins pulls without problems. Works very quietly, lightweight.
this is how my first Bosch 3530 worked
During operation, an extraneous sound is heard, which should not be in a working mixer. I returned this mixer to the store and bought the same model elsewhere. Now nothing knocks, does not rattle, it works smoothly and quietly, which I am very happy about.

Do I need to overpay 100 UAH? (400 rubles) for extra 50 W of power, stylish design and the presence of iron balls - it's up to you.

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