milf
k.alena, I have and Keti different models, judging by the knife in the glass, which is not in my configuration (in appearance and shape it looks like a knife from my brown), should cut well.
Right now, I read in the instructions: it turns out that this is not a glass of a blender, but is called a jug of a mixer, which means that he has a purpose to mix to be stunned
Keti
In the grinder, I ground whole chicken stomachs into minced meat, which are not easy to cut with a knife.
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k.alena
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k.alena, I have and Keti different models, judging by the knife in the glass, which is not in my configuration (in appearance and shape it looks like a knife from my brown), should cut well.
Right now, I read in the instructions: it turns out that this is not a glass of a blender, but is called a jug of a mixer, which means that he has a purpose to mix to be stunned
I already figured it out - I downloaded the instructions for the entire 481st series
Keti, thank you for the test drive. Now the question remains only about the blender leg. How does it work?
milf, and you?
Keti
k.alena - pumpkin puree with a blender leg. The pumpkin was steamed in a slow cooker with heated sugar.
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Keti, aaaaa, I want the same. It's a pity that when I bought my own 2 months ago, I did not see such a model. Honestly, the first time I heard from you about such a model, although I even searched and read on their website. I definitely haven't seen this live, and I haven't seen it in our online stores either.
Here I sit, I think maybe I can bite my elbows, or something else, After all, the difference is only about a hundred hryvnia
k.alena, depending on what the leg is used for. Now I whipped Nutella in a few seconds into such a thick paste that it costs a spoon, but I chopped the added nuts very poorly (I almost didn’t grind it at all). Power seems to be enough normally, so I sharpen a knife and I hope, happiness.

To be honest, I found it by accident on the site, and before that I had already ordered 481.67 - which with scales, but they could not find it for several days, and in the meantime I found this one. And I re-ordered.
As I said with Zelmer's sites, laughter and nothing else. When the salesman from the store, at my request, read the parameters to me on the phone, he read about the meat grinder, I drew his attention to this and he understood, said that there was not enough time to deal with sites.

Natasha, what do you dislike about your model? They should be similar, because the power is the same? Only the package is different?
Of course, first of all I took it as a mixer - it burned out before that, which worked for many years. And the blender was planning to buy DEX - it is more powerful and with an iron leg. Now I'll think about it.
k.alena
Quote: milf

Keti, aaaaa, I want the same. It's a pity that when I bought my own 2 months ago, I did not see such a model. Honestly, the first time I heard from you about such a model, although I even searched and read on their website. I definitely haven't seen this live, and I haven't seen it in our online stores either.
Here I sit, I think maybe I can bite my elbows, or something else, After all, the difference is only about a hundred hryvnia
k.alena, depending on what the leg is used for. Now I whipped Nutella in a few seconds into such a thick paste that a spoon is worth it, but I chopped the added nuts very badly (I almost did not grind it at all). Power seems to be enough normally, so I sharpen the knife and I hope I will be happy.
So this is a completely fresh model, on sale only since September And the chopper, if the hunt is strong, you can try to buy it through the service. I have such a plan attached to the blender and I often use it.
Keti, You have already ordered a huge enormous SPA-SI-BO, on Monday they should call you back.
milf
Keti, what I do not like. I had a brown blender like this Mixer burned down after 5 years of work out of stupidity grinding potassium mixture, and dried apricots got bones, overheated and burned out.There were no complaints, assembly in Spain. Now I tried to buy an electric motor in the service, I gave 300 UAH, it stopped working after 10 days, after the second attempt to make Nutella. Now all the brownies are Polish assembly, and compared to the one purchased 7 years ago, they look flimsy and not reliable
I wanted a stationary mixer so that my hands would not get tired and were free, but a blender was needed. So Zelmer chose. I'm not happy with the blender: I tried to make chicken liver pate, ground terribly, although the liver and vegetables were stewed, although the recipe was new, it also had chicken fillet, so it seemed to be loaded on it. I also tried to make a curd mass with my foot from homemade fatty curd, sour cream and banana. The banana barely mastered, although the brown grinded both pate and cottage cheese at once. But then Zelmer beat the Nutella super, it turned out thick, thick. So I think the power is good, and the blender knives are not sharpened - this is their flaw, but it's a pity. (sorry to repeat myself)
Rapunzel
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Girls, what can you say about PHILIPS HR-1571 ESSENCE mixer.
"... This powerful Essence mixer is equipped with the FlexiMix system, which allows the attachments to move vertically and thus reach the most difficult-to-reach places in the bowl, regardless of its shape, ensuring better mixing or whipping."
This is the first time I've heard about this function of mixers.

I have PHILIPS ESSENCE for 7 years. I don’t know the number, then I’ll look. Very good mixer. Protein is easy! I don't know any problems with whipping. Viscous dough is not a question. I make shortbread dough with hooks. Very good minimum speed, you can mix in flour and not dust. The rims are solid metal with a good blade length and a long pin. Now I look at the fashion for short and a whisk under the belly of the mixer. It doesn't seem right to me. The mixer will be like a grimy pig. Relative to FlexiMix system. I tried it once again and did not see the buzz - the mixer does an excellent job without it. BUT its presence predetermines a certain breakdown. Since all these 7 years, 50 percent of the time the mixer was whipping (scary to utter) mashed potatoes, the load on the corollas and joints was not so bad. For FlexiMix operation, some possible freedom of movement was laid in the course of one of the paws. And, thanks to mashed potatoes, I broke it up, the foot walks, the blades cling to the next one. But the smoking-room works. By the way, he coped with mashed potatoes because metal corollas with a good strip width. This number wouldn't work with wire. Now my blender with potato meat has taken the load off the mixer. For myself, I decided that I will not change the mixer while I am alive, as it is convenient and functional. If it does stretch out its paws, I will watch a phillips of this type as the first option.
Leopoldovna
Girls, tell me who ZELMER 381.61 has this additional self-scraping blade inside the bowl, because if there is none, then you will have to buy 481.67. The choice has already been made, throwing only because of this "little thing", but I really really want it to be. ... ...
Leopoldovna
Keti can't, I need to fit in at least 500 grams, because the mixer wants to give me a daughter for the New Year. She told me to choose a good and powerful one for myself and show it to her. My daughter is in her last year of graduate school and works in Kiev, so she will buy there and bring it to NG. if I choose even more expensive, then my conscience will simply devour me, and if I choose which thread is cheap, then my daughter will simply buy at my discretion, but already expensive (knowing her character) and then she will save a month. Zelmer, with a scale that is the best option - and a new mixer and my daughter are not so expensive for me. ... ... ... but there is still time to think a little. ... ...
Keti
I certainly don't know what the prices for mixers are where you looked at. But, for example, in Kharkov I bought 481.63 for 584 UAH, and 481.67 (which with weights) 534 UAH, that is, the difference is only 50 UAH. And what is in 481.63 you probably saw in my photo
k.alena
I took 481.63 on Tuesday for 588 UAH. in the online store, WITHOUT delivery. This was the lowest price.
Leopoldovna
In Kiev I found 624 gr plus 40 gr delivery, and 481.67 524 with delivery. And at 481.63 there is this self-scraping paddle in the bowl? Why, this scapula does not give me rest. ... ... HACHU was
Keti
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I took 481.63 on Tuesday for 588 UAH. in the online store, WITHOUT delivery. This was the lowest price.

Congratulations Did you give it already or will you try it yourself first?
I also took it without delivery, I went to an Internet store and brought it.
Keti
Quote: Leopoldovna

In Kiev I found 624 gr plus 40 gr delivery, and 481.67 524 with delivery. And at 481.63 there is this self-scraping paddle in the bowl? Why, this scapula does not give me rest. ... ... HACHU was

Yes there is! And it is very convenient that it is there - everything mixes well.
I already wrote that in 481.63 the most complete set of Zelmer mixers - only there are no scales. But I have separate scales. But there are a bunch of grinders, blenders
k.alena
Quote: Keti

Congratulations Did you give it already or will you try it yourself first?
I also took it without delivery, I went to an Internet store and brought it.
Gave it only tonight. It is somehow not customary for us to try gifts for ourselves. Moreover, she is a cook with 30 years of experience, I think she will figure it out
Leopoldovna
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Yes there is! And it is very convenient that it is there - everything mixes well.
I already wrote that in 481.63 the most complete set of Zelmer mixers - only there are no scales. But I have separate scales. But there are a bunch of grinders, blenders

Everything, I decided, let it be 481.67, because I have a good chopper, 2 blenders, but there are no scales, and I somehow managed without them, and now I "feel" that it will be much more convenient with them. It remains only to wait. ... ... and right now, I'll go to Temka about the DEX-60 multicooker, I'll read it, I'm 50 and I want another cartoon
valuhka
Quote: Leopoldovna

Everything, I decided, let it be 481.67, because I have a good chopper, 2 blenders, but there are no scales, and I somehow managed without them, and now I "feel" that it will be much more convenient with them. It remains only to wait. ... ... and right now, I'll go to Temka about the DEX-60 multicooker, I'll read it, I'm 50 and I want another cartoon
Sorry to interfere, but don't bother with a spatula. Buy silicone for 10 UAH and you will be happy. And my 5 year old son is playing with this paddle. Silicone is 100 times better
izumka
Quote: valuhka

Sorry to interfere, but don't bother with a spatula. Buy silicone for 10 UAH and you will be happy. And my 5 year old son is playing with this paddle. Silicone is 100 times better
I don’t agree! I have a 481.67 mixer and I am very happy! It is very convenient that there are scales, although I have separate ones. And it's very good that there is this scapula, it does not allow the cream or dough to stick to the sides. Today I made a dough for rye bread, you know what its viscosity is. If it were not for the spatula, the dough would be all along the sides of the bowl, and with it the walls are almost clean, all the dough is around the hooks. So that, Leopoldovna, made a good choice! By the way, I also chose Dex 60 and already ordered. Maybe they'll deliver it in a week!
TyominaAlyona
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Sorry to interfere, but don't bother with a spatula. Buy silicone for 10 UAH and you will be happy. And my 5 year old son is playing with this paddle. Silicone is 100 times better
So after all, this spatula is built-in, it SAMA rakes the mixed product along the walls, and you will have to shuffle the silicone one yourself. Or not?
valuhka
Alenochka, the shovel can be used not during work, but after. Yes, it is convenient in the sense that it does not have a flat surface (the one that removes from the walls), not only from the side, but also below. That is, the walls and the bottom are simultaneously cleaned. But you cannot do this during operation, since the bowl will not spin
valuhka
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So after all, this spatula is built-in, it SAMA rakes the mixed product along the walls, and you will have to shuffle the silicone one yourself. Or not?
No, she's just the usual plastic stuff. It is not attached to anything. Look at the photo. She's there like that. Just a spatula
valuhka
The bowl is spinning there due to the rattling wheel, and with the slightest resistance (in the form of a spatula) I cannot vouch for the "health" of the mixer
milf
mine also has a spatula, but I have not figured out where to attach it
I use ordinary silicone, if necessary
Erzulie
But in my opinion, you are talking about different blades, I just bought this mixer yesterday

I have already installed such an angular thing inside the bowl - I mean that this is the very self-scraping scapula from the walls.And the separate plastic spatula included in the kit is different.

And also (I read this instruction) it is written that you can separately buy the missing parts for all models. For example, for my model with weights, you can separately buy a blender leg and other grinders. True, it seems to me that it is better to buy a separate blender if there is a need for it.
TyominaAlyona
valuhka, thanks for answers!

Quote: Erzulie

I have already installed such an angular thing inside the bowl - I mean that this is the very self-scraping scapula from the walls. And the separate plastic spatula included in the kit is different.
But in my opinion, you are talking about different shoulder blades
It seems that, indeed, different shoulder blades are meant. It's good that there is clarity.

Quote: Erzulie

And also (I read this instruction) it is written that you can separately buy the missing parts for all models. For example, for my model with weights, you can separately buy a blender leg and other grinders. True, it seems to me that it is better to buy a separate blender if there is a need for it.
Well done, that they have foreseen the possibility of replenishment, like other manufacturers of branded household appliances!
It also seems to me that it is more preferable to have separate devices. Although, for these "separate" and storage space should be provided, and funds for their acquisition should be allocated.
valuhka
Quote: Erzulie

But in my opinion, you are talking about different blades, I just bought this mixer yesterday

I have already installed such an angular thing inside the bowl - I mean that this is the very self-scraping scapula from the walls. And the separate plastic spatula included in the kit is different.

And also (I read this instruction) it is written that you can separately buy the missing parts for all models. For example, for my model with weights, you can separately buy a blender leg and other grinders. True, it seems to me that it is better to buy a separate blender if there is a need for it.
Or you can have a photo of a bowl with a scraper blade inside It became terribly interesting. I just have corollas right next to the walls
valuhka
Exactly in the 67th model there is such a counter as "A nozzle that prevents the dough from sticking to the walls of the bowl" I found in the description in Tok's internet store I want to see the principle of operation. I represent Alena how we confused you.
Erzulie
Girls, I'll take a picture later in the evening, parents are about to come to us, and I'm running around the house here) And in the evening I'll take a picture and post it

They just wrongly called it a "spatula" - I generally thought that the usual spatula that comes with the kit (plastic narrow) is somehow attached to the mixer during operation. And then it came.

Alain, well, yes, only here, as always - an optional leg of a blender to a mixer can cost as much as if you just buy a separate blender)) And you probably need to wait a long time until this part is brought
Erzulie
Here, look - inside the bowl there is such a thing with a protruding rib - they mean that this is that scapula, that is, when it moves, it scrapes off the remains from the sides and throws them back down

And the white long shoulder blade - here it is in the photo - is completely different

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valuhka
Quote: Erzulie

Here, look - inside the bowl there is such a thing with a protruding rib - they mean that this is that scapula, that is, when it moves, it scrapes off the remains from the sides and throws them back down

And the white long shoulder blade - here it is in the photo - is completely different

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Thank you! Now everything became clear.
valuhka
Quote: Leopoldovna

Oh-oh ... how you girls told a lot about my future mixer Zelmer !!!!! I just have this ... wild. ... ... ... a desire not to wait for the New Year, when they will bring me a gift, but to order it right now. After all, until NG is still so long and I already want this "Pole"
Yes, I so delayed the purchase of multi and ice cream (I was waiting for the new year). Then the price began to increase immediately by UAH 15. A trifle, but still. I think - while I get ready, already a hundred will drip. Therefore, I ordered everything without waiting for NG
Keti
As promised, I show the scanned pages of the Zelmer mixer, the difference between the models and what to do in which device.
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xozyaika
Girls! I'm in trouble - my beloved Ross has burned out. My son is 5th birthday in a week, there is not much money. I cannot make a choice. You discussed the ZELMER Mixer here, but it is with a bowl, and I'm somehow afraid I never had it. What can you say about this model Mixer ZELMER 481.4 Expressive
And in general, what would you advise? We urgently need advice, because the cake was promised, but without a mixer you can't
Tanyusha
xozyaika, take a zelmer, you won't regret it, it's the same thing only without a bowl.
artisan
Why not with a bowl? The main thing is that he would be filming and could work without her. I've been dreaming of a mixer, with a bowl, set to whip a biscuit and free!
xozyaika
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Why not with a bowl? The main thing is that he would be filming and could work without her. I've been dreaming of a mixer, with a bowl, set to whip a biscuit and free!

Somehow I have nowhere to put it. This one seems to be mobile without a bowl. And not so often I bake for it to stand stationary. But now I read about Bosch MFQ 4020 and finally got confused. Girls help out, give advice
milf
xozyaika, I also thought that it takes up a lot of space, but in my removable small family with a small kitchen and a table, it is not at all big, and on my table next to it I can still do something, and then I just hide it in a box. I like that you don't need to hold it in your hands, you can cook something else at this time.
Keti
Quote: xozyaika

Girls! I'm in trouble - my beloved Ross has burned out. My son is 5th birthday in a week, there is not much money. I cannot make a choice. You discussed the ZELMER Mixer here, but it is with a bowl, and I'm somehow afraid I never had it. What can you say about this model Mixer ZELMER 481.4 Expressive
And in general, what would you advise? We urgently need advice, because the cake was promised, but without a mixer you can't

Of course, it's better to take with a bowl. The mixer itself is very easy to remove from the bowl. Well, you don't need a bowl at the moment, hide it in a box. And you will need to get it. The mixer with the bowl is the same as you asked for 1 in 1. It just sits on the bowl on the attachment and is just as easy to remove.
Keti
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Girls! Congratulations, my new ZELMER has just arrived. Today I will bake a cake for my son. I hope he does not disappoint my expectations.

Congratulations! Well, what did they take with or without a bowl?
LLika
Girls, who has this Braun M 1030 mixer?
I have put my eye on the Bosch MFQ 4020 since the summer, but while I was going to buy it, it is no longer available in this store. Back in November I turned to one of our stores to bring me such a Boshik. Yesterday I asked again and received in response: they have already ordered many times - they do not bring them, they are not in stock.
But now there is Braun M 1030, 500 W power (price - 600 UAH). Flipped through all the pages of the topic and did not find reviews about it, no one boasted about it.

I see Zelmera's people are buying, but he loses to Bosch in power (400 W versus Bosch's 450 W), but it wins in price. I need biscuits, protein custard and wet biset for biscuits. It is clear that the more powerful the better. Who can tell you the difference in 50 W is a lot?

Some kind of nightmare, what to choose? And still the same problem with the camera is to come.
Kamusik
Well, I don’t know ... It seems to me that not very much. Moreover, our girls-craftswomen use Zelmers in full. I also have Zelmer, but I do not work with him as often as they do. Everyone is happy. Whisk whites for sure!
Lozja
LLika_7, as far as I know, more power is needed precisely for kneading the dough, the thicker the dough, the more powerful the mixer is needed, to knead with hooks. And beat the whites - power is not so important at all. I had a Tefalka, seemingly so small, light, such a mini-mixer, the power was like 200, whipped squirrels - the guy was noisy.
Well, if the power is so important, then the difference of 50 W is bullshit, if you pick up two mixers you won't even feel this difference, and especially on proteins.
LLika
It is for protein cream that I need a mixer. My 200-watt biscuit whips, the meringue also pulls, but at the end I already start to sniff at it.because it overheats, and the protein cream is even denser and I get under-whipped, and the mixer is already very good. hot.
Tomorrow I'll ask you to touch Brown in the store and see what his book is writing. They just take doubts, we have a lot of pastry chefs on our forum, and there are no discussions about such a mixer.
Melanyushka
LLika_7, take Boshik, you will not regret if there is no 4020, take 3550 or any other Bosch model, just look at the power, so that it is at least 400W, and it will perfectly pull any cream: protein, wet meringue, custard ... Well, the dough is on biscuits will definitely beat. In principle, even 350 watts is already not bad, but if it is possible to take 400 - 450 watts, this is very good. I beat any creams with my Bosch and for quite a long time it works, for example, whipping Wet meringues, and there is not even a hint of overheating. I am very pleased.
NatalyaN
Quote: LLika_7

Girls, who has a Braun M 1030 mixer like this?
Since the summer I laid my eyes on the Bosch MFQ 4020, but while I was going to buy it, it is no longer available in this store. Back in November I turned to one of our stores to bring me such a Bosch. Yesterday I asked again and received in response: they have already ordered many times - they do not bring them, they are not in the warehouse.
But now there is Braun M 1030, 500 W power (price - 600 UAH). Flipped through all the pages of the topic and did not find reviews about it, no one boasted about it.

I see Zelmera's people are buying, but he loses to Bosch in power (400 W versus Bosch's 450 W), but it wins a lot in price. I need biscuits, protein custard and wet biset for biscuits. Of course, the more powerful the better. Who can tell you the difference in 50 W is a lot?

Some kind of nightmare, what to choose? And still the same problem with the camera is to come.
It’s a little not beautiful that I’m talking about Zelmer like that, but if you will do it for a Wet meringue, and this is definitely going to be steamed in a saucepan, then take Bosch, his corollas are longer - they are shorter in Zelmer, otherwise the mixer will be smeared with cream, or carried you to the bottom of the pan, and also the temperature when heating ... When I looked at Zelmer at Olechka's, I was unequivocally glad that I had Bosch, only because of the length of the corollas ... and I didn't see any difference in work ... there won't be 4020, take 3550 or 3530.
Lozja
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It is for the protein cream that I need a mixer. My 200-watt biscuit whips, the bizet also pulls, but at the end I already start to sniff at it because it overheats, and the protein cream is even denser and it turns out to be under-whipped, and the mixer is already very good. hot.
Tomorrow I'll ask you to touch Brown in the store and see what his book is writing. They just take doubts, we have a lot of pastry chefs on our forum, and there are no discussions about such a mixer.

And, well, yes, a good motor is also needed for long work. At one time I was looking for a powerful one for kneading dough. I took myself a non-branded one, at 400 W, it seems, I don’t remember exactly, so I never regretted it. I kneaded Easter cakes for half an hour, I didn't even warm up. They also offered me a 350 W Bosch, but it was so small, quiet and all so delicate that I was even scared to knead the dough with it. In general, I took a nefirmU, the speed and power are such, sho ho-ho! Everything is individual here. Go to the store and hold it in your hands, I tell you for sure, "your" mixer will fall into your hand.
LLika
NatalyaN, thanks for the info about the length of the corollas, so I don't take Zelmer yet. The circle is narrowing.
Today I went and touched Brown, though I didn't include it. It looks decent and inspires confidence. But I didn't pay attention to the length of the corollas, I read the message afterwards. Although it is pistol-like, that is, it will fit into the whipping bowl along with the body
Mixer
Lozja mixers such as Scarlet, Delfa, etc. we have already reviewed everything more than 250 W did not find.
I live in the regional center, so there is no wide selection of expensive equipment (they are brought to order) and Boshev is not available, but Brown is worth it.
I already connected my husband to the search, sitting there looking for me a mixer, called the officer. Bosch site, 4020 out of stock.

Girls with Bosches, please see the instruction book for them, what is your maximum whisking time?

Lozja
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Lozja mixers such as Scarlet, Delfa, etc. we have already reviewed everything more than 250 W did not find.
I live in the regional center, so there is no wide selection of expensive equipment (they are brought to order) and Boshev is not available, but Brown is worth it.

I don't remember what mine is called ... VICO seems to write on it, I'll be at home - I'll take a look. Something similar to this "Vitka", only more powerful -

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Corollas - power, without any plastic parts there, which I really do not like in mixers. It cost about 250-270 hryvnia, the choice in the store was also very small, even if you have a regional center, we have even less.
In general, the mixer must be felt, whatever one may say.

PS: We now have MFQ 3540 and MFQ 3580 in stock from powerful Bosches, they are 450 watts each. Please contact if that.
Such a Boshik (I remembered from the picture) I then held in the store in my hands, it is very light and quiet. I was just afraid to take the dough for kneading.
Bulka
Girls, all the good time of the day! Share the info, who knows .... I read that whites and eggs, in general, beat flat whisks faster, not wire ones ..... maybe someone has two mixers with different whisks and can be compared. I do not touch upon the issue of the power of the unit, it is the corollas that interest me. Thank you in advance

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