milf
Girls of the owner of Zelmer 381.61, tell me, please, the submersible and stationary blender has normal power, let's say mayonnaise is enough, make nutella. And how good is he? I choose a mixer with a blender instead of a broken one. Little one has a birthday soon, he needs to make a cake, so I want to buy a mixer quickly. Thanks in advance for your answers.
chapic
and I have a Vitek VT-1603 food processor with a power of 700 watts. how do you think the protein custard will master? haven't tried it yet
Kamusik
Quote: milf

Girls of the owner of Zelmer 381.61, tell me, please, the submersible and stationary blender has normal power, let's say mayonnaise is enough, make nutella. And how good is he? I choose a mixer with a blender instead of a broken one. Little one has a birthday soon, he needs to make a cake, so I want to buy a mixer quickly. Thanks in advance for your answers.

Well, as I understand it, it is the same as that of the mixer-1500! I think everything should be OK.

milf
KamusikIs 1500 power or rpm? It seems that in the description the power is 400 watts. Have you used a blender before? I would like to hear your opinion as someone who tested this unit.
Kamusik
Quote: milf

KamusikIs 1500 power or rpm? It seems that in the description the power is 400 watts. Have you used a blender before? I would like to hear your opinion as someone who tested this unit.

I will not approve, but the box says 1500W PEAK POWER. I haven't used a blender yet, I can't say anything. And I'm sooo happy with the mixer! I am very glad that it is stationary - you can wander around the kitchen (in which there is nowhere to turn around) with other things. IMHO, price-quality is quite!
poiuytrewq
Quote: Kamusik

I will not approve, but the box says 1500W PEAK POWER.
This is peak power, rather in pulsed mode. And in the normal, standard mode, just 400 W will be.
Comilfo
Need a mixer with a bowl. Actually, I liked Bosch-MFQ_4020, but there is no bowl for it. Tell me, is it really possible to buy a separate bowl somewhere?
NatalyaN
Marish, call the Boshevsky service center and ask them.
poiuytrewq
Quote: NataliaN

Marish, call the Boshevsky service center and ask them.
Ooh! I once went to them, - looked at their prices, - wanted to buy an additional attachment ... So for the price they wanted for just one attachment, a new combine could be bought. True, this is in Moscow.
Keti
I noticed such a nice mixer with weights
Mixer
Anyone have any feedback? Or is Germany not Germany?
Mixer CLATRONIC HMS 3152

Mixer and Kneader:
5 speeds
Turbo stage (setup)
Dough hooks (kneading hooks) and beaters (beaters) made of stainless steel
Large bowl with automatic disc, rotating

Kitchen utensils:
Digital Kitchen Scale
Well-lit LCD Display
Large, measuring cup for accurate weighing
Measuring range up to 5 kg
Convenient additional weighing with the balance function
ON / OFF switch
General information:
Mixing set with compact kitchen scales
The kitchen scale can be used separately
370 x 400 x 240 mm
230 V, 50 Hz, 300 W
Model - HMS 3152 CLATRONIC.
Manufacturer - Germany
Warranty - 1 year
Price: 470 UAH / piece.

Comilfo
Quote: NataliaN

Marish, call the Boshevsky service center and ask them.
I got to the service center - there is no such device separately in Ukraine.
And something looped me. Which week I decide - to get by with a new mixer with a bowl, or give away a blender and a meat grinder (quite decent) and buy Bosch Mom right away? ...
NatalyaN
Marina, the moderators will knock us on the head now, but I will say ...
I have a Bosch 4020 hand mixer, a Bosch 47th combine (I took it in a neckerman), without a citrus juicer (someday I will buy it separately, it will not burn now) and a meat grinder (I also manage it for now) and a submersible blender with choppers of 2 sizes and a whisk (it is also needed when I do a lot of everything and I don’t want to wash the nozzles or the bowl of the combine). So far, all this is enough for me, of course I want something else, but in my kitchen there is nowhere to stay ...
Well? Have I increased your torment of choice? Honestly, I didn't want to ...
AlisaS
Hello everyone!
My old Soviet mixer started to smell like burnt. It seems that soon he will not be able to help me. Now I'm looking for an assistant.
Here I am struggling with the choice between BOSCH MFQ 3520 (350W) and BOSCH MFQ 3530 (450W). In terms of components (beaters / hooks), they are almost the same, and they look almost the same. Differ in power.
Has anyone compared these two models? What makes this difference of 100W? Maybe 350W is enough (whipping proteins, pancake-type dough)?
NatalyaN
Quote: AlisaS

Hello everyone!
My old Soviet mixer started to smell like burnt. It seems that soon he will not be able to help me. Now I'm looking for an assistant.
Here I am struggling with the choice between BOSCH MFQ 3520 (350W) and BOSCH MFQ 3530 (450W). In terms of components (beaters / hooks), they are almost the same, and they look almost the same. Differ in power.
Has anyone compared these two models? What makes this difference of 100W? Maybe 350W is enough (whipping proteins, pancake-type dough)?
if only you will make pancake dough, and not whip biscuits and make protein-custards often, then BOSCH MFQ 3520 is enough for you.
But I will only tell you that when I was choosing myself, I stopped at BOSCH MFQ 3530 (I need it more powerful for work), although it was not available, but it was 4020, so I bought it, and now I am very pleased with the balls on the corollas. Moreover, someone wrote above that he was visiting, either at his mother-in-law, or at his mother's, and tried the 40th gray with balls, (at home the 35th series), it was better with balls.
k.alena
I don't remember which topic, most likely in this one, the girls and I discussed power. And we came to the conclusion that it does not affect the speed, but affects the ability of the mixer to cope with a sufficiently thick product, that is, to turn the beaters when the viscous product resists this.
I have a BOSCH MFQ 3520 (350W), whips whites, kneads dough for pancakes, custard for eclairs is also great. I don't even know how to load it so that you feel the limit of its power
Quote: NataliaN

if only you will make pancake dough, and not whip biscuits and make protein-custards often, then BOSCH MFQ 3520 is enough for you.
I also made biscuit dough - no problem. "Often" is a loose concept. Even if you do it every day, then the engine will have enough time to cool down and "come to its senses." Another thing is for those who bake cakes to order: both dough and cream are heavy with sweat, etc. Here, of course, another technique is needed.
NatalyaN
Quote: k.alena

... I have a BOSCH MFQ 3520 (350W), whips whites, kneads dough for pancakes, custard for eclairs is also great. I don't even know how to load it so that you feel the limit of its power ...
I know what to load - I'll try to knead the mastic with hooks or knead the bread so that the gluten develops well (just kidding) ...

And so, I agree with you, just for some reason our old mixers began to fail, apparently their time has expired, even if we do not load them strongly.
AlisaS
Thank you girls for responding!
My old Ros served for a very long time. For a long time, but I kept whipping up the whites for the meringue, etc. I don't know what its power is, but I suppose it's much less than 300W. In principle, it was enough for me.
My husband will kick out with my device purchases soon. I want something cheaper in the sense of a mixer, but better so that. Wanting is not harmful, of course
3520 suits in all respects, but after all, add a little more money and you can already 3530, which is more powerful to buy. And a little more and 4020 ... I like, of course, 4020, no doubt. But this is not the amount that I originally planned to spend (another purchase is planned, which will be of higher priority).
But now I read your reviews that the 40th series is definitely better ...

By the way, I knead the Lacy sourdough bread with my Rosy. She's doing great.
AlisaS
Maybe buy 4020?
If it both whips better and works quieter than the 35 series mixers.
NatalyaN
Quote: AlisaS

Maybe buy 4020?
If it both whips better and works quieter than the 35 series mixers.
on account of the quieter work, I did not say, and did not compare myself, but remembered that one of ours was comparing.
AlisaS , do not suffer, because he writes k.alena that 3520 is happy, but you don't need to work so much on it, and you only have money for it, then take it - you will be happy. For example, I liked the 35th episode better ...
k.alena
I also had Boshik before him, served for 10 years and began to slowly fall apart (to see someone "helped" him in this by dropping it). And this one, 3520, not so long ago, about a year. I thought I'd manage with a combine and a blender ... but it wasn’t there Ros was also, even before all of them, bought in a wedding salon (then there was nothing anywhere) in 1991. He also served 10 years.
Quote: AlisaS

3520 suits in all respects, but after all, add a little more money and you can already 3530, which is more powerful to buy. And a little more and 4020 ... I like, of course, 4020, no doubt. But this is no longer the amount that I planned to spend initially (another purchase is planned, which will be of higher priority).
I am guided in my choice more by the optimal utility. There is always something better, if you add a little, Even if I can afford it. It is better to buy with the money saved what I will actually use. Although this approach is more possible with a well-known technique, when I am looking for a replacement for an existing one. With a fundamentally new, especially a fairly expensive one, this does not always work out.Here, on the contrary, it works a little to add and have all the possibilities than to save money and be left without perhaps very necessary little thing
Comilfo
Quote: k.alena

Another thing is for those who bake cakes to order: both dough and cream are heavy with sweat, etc. Here, of course, another technique is needed.
Aaaaaaaaaa, me such a technique is needed .... Damn, to know what exactly: crazy: So and toss as Buridan's donkey from one side to the other. Eeeh, the mixer is already hinting ambiguously that help, they say, is needed ... What to choose, what to choose
P.S. Natalka, no teasing
NatalyaN
Quote: Comilfo

Aaaaaaaaaa, me such a technique is needed .... Damn, to know what exactly: crazy: So and toss as Buridan's donkey from one side to the other. Eeeh, the mixer is already hinting ambiguously that help, they say, is needed ... What to choose, what to choose
P.S. Natalka, no teasing
I'm not teasing, maybe I just have no one to brag about how much equipment I have in the kitchen. The pediatrician generally comes to me and immediately asks, what's new? and what is it for? and after examining the children, I give her instructions - this is for this, and this is for this ...
Tanyusha
Girls, how much does it cost 4020, we have it from 1380 rubles.
AlisaS
I look at the prices ... there are many ... different ...
Starting from 55u. e. (at the rate 8.1 ...). Yesterday in the store I saw such a mixer for 700 UAH.
So your 1380 rubles is somehow not expensive ...
Daffi
Quote: AlisaS

I look at the prices ... there are many ... different ...
Starting from 55u. e. (at the rate 8.1 ...). Yesterday in the store I saw such a mixer for 700 UAH.
So your 1380 rubles is somehow not expensive ...
UAH 700 - this is overkill, here are the prices in Kharkiv online stores

I looked - Technotochka is in Dnepropetrovsk, their price is 514 UAH. But maybe you have online stores in the city with lower prices, look
I can’t say anything about the Dnipropetrovsk Technotechka, in Kharkov I took a bread maker three years ago, and just a couple of weeks ago I bought a blender and a mini-harvester, so everything seems to be in order, they filled out the warranty documents.

And in general, do not delay the purchase, otherwise the prices have grown a little because of the dollar exchange rate, and from November 1 they will start to grow more seriously, different sellers before the New Year make a "price reserve" in order to make discounts later
Tashi
Girls, I also decided to insert my five cents in the mixers.Why isn't anyone talking about Kitchen? The machine is quite serious, the cream makes a bang, and there is a hook for kneading bread. A pure American, entirely made of metal and his power, although they write 350, is much more powerful.
Tanyusha
Tashi, the price of the Kitchen is too high, but here more and more about budget models.
Daffi
Kitchen Aid is as expensive as an airplane, weighs about 12 kg and takes up decent space. And so yes, great mixer
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Catwoman

May I disturb your peace? I bought a Polaris 3009A mixer, and Stepka was the first to use it. There is nowhere to put with a bowl, dear, the toad stings, and I wanted a mixer, although there is already a food processor and 2 blenders, the price of this device, just don't laugh ... 433r. And whips. Squirrels, and some of the yolks also floated in them (it is impossible to separate them so that they do not fall into the proteins), with a bang, minutes in 1.5-2. And this is at 2 speeds. If necessary, I can display photographs. More than 2 speeds did not include - the beast, but there are 5 + turbo. In general, I recommend to everyone who needs it without unnecessary bells and whistles, without a bowl and not expensive.
And how is he for you after 5 months of work? And the price is 433 rubles. where is it ?
Catwoman
Quote: Winiepooh

And how is he for you after 5 months of work? And the price is 433 rubles. where is it ?

I'm getting more and more crazy about him! The price was on sale for the action, now it costs 700 rubles with a penny, I do not refuse my words - a beast! Whisking whites on a biscuit Just in a moment! You can see the biscuit in Dex's topic. I bought it from us in Chelyabinsk. If you want, I can see the exact price. RBT store. Yes, I mostly work at 1-2 speeds. Well, compact, it's in my locker. Before the stationary one, in my opinion, it wins by the fact that I can whip in different cups, and in the stationary one I have to wash the bowl, and beat the next one later.
AlisaS
Hello everyone!
I bought myself a mixer!
Thank you all for your help!
To remove doubts, I went to the store and asked to turn on both models: 3520 and 4020. I held both mixer in my hands. The 3520 sits more comfortably in the hands, and it is made of better quality. But I definitely liked the 4020 for work. It is much quieter. In general, I ordered it. I've already tried it when making marshmallows. Girls, I'm in shock. He mastered the whipping in about 10 minutes. With my old Rosy, I whipped these marshmallows for probably 30-40 minutes, taking into account the fact that Ros was periodically resting, and the marshmallows were in the refrigerator. Perfectly kneaded dough for sourdough bread. In general, a miracle technique!
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Catwoman

I'm getting more and more crazy about him! The price was on sale for the action, now it costs 700 rubles with a penny, I do not refuse my words - a beast! Whisking whites on a biscuit Just in a moment! You can see the biscuit in Dex's topic. I bought it from us in Chelyabinsk. If you want, I can see the exact price. RBT store. Yes, I mostly work at 1-2 speeds. Well, compact, it's in my locker. Before the stationary one, in my opinion, it wins by the fact that I can whip in different cups, and in the stationary one I have to wash the bowl, and beat the next one later.
I have 800 rubles in Kursk. but in the online store. Tell me, where are the attachment holes metal or plastic inserted? Did you make the dough for them? And in the store only Polaris 3009 and other Polaris models too.
Catwoman
Quote: Winiepooh

I have 800 rubles in Kursk. but in the online store. Tell me, and where are the attachment holes metal or plastic inserted? Did you make the dough for them? And in the store only Polaris 3009 and other Polaris models too.

The holes-fasteners are plastic, but the attachments are attached very well, and for such a price ... I like the quality, and if it breaks in a couple of years, then I don't mind throwing it away.
Keti
Girls who have a Zelmer mixer. Which model is this complete set?
Written by Zelmer 481.63. Is this a new model? But, after all, there is already 481.67.

And a protective lid and a jug of some kind and knives ...
Are there owners?
Mixer
kosmar
I have Phillips1565, although I only use it for protein cream (proteins + sugar) and for nothing else (there is no need for another technique, I make cream or dough, etc.), it suits me
Mixer
Kamusik
Keti, I have a Zelmer 381.61, I have everything except a closed jug with knives (next to the mixer on the left side).
Keti
Quote: Kamusik

Keti, I have a Zelmer 381.61, I have everything except a closed jug with knives (next to the mixer on the left side).

And what is interesting for the pitcher? And is there a protective cover?
I see that it costs even more than 481.67 (which is with weights). So there is something in him that is not in others?

Kamusik, does it work well?
I probably want this 481.63.
Kamusik
I am very happy with mine !!! Works t-t-t! When I was choosing myself, I also had my eyes on this model. Somewhere higher in this thread, Vitalinka and I discussed and consulted. But I stopped at 381.61 (according to pricing policy). Well, probably, this jug also pulls the price ... Is it needed?
lizard
My electric whipper "Khortytsa" (yes, it was called that way), which was ... well, at least 15 years old, burned down ... She was like this Mixer... I finally looked at her passport - 100W

I began to read Temko, opted for Bosh MFQ 4020. I ordered it at Technotochka, since the price was the lowest in this company. Technochka moved the date to me a couple of times, but I had an order - refused this venture. Let's call all major chains in Donetsk about the selected mixer - but they are not in our village ... I went to the first convenience store and bought a Zelmer 381-5. Two pairs of standard attachments and a blender leg included.
Mixer
Well, for now, in comparison with the previous one - I'm happy, then we'll see.
NatalyaN
Lida, did you leave a mug? I kept myself so comfortable. And in comparison with our late Khortitsy, probably any mixer will be 100 times better, although they worked well, they were of the old model, not the same as now ...
lizard
Kaneshna, I left the mug comfortable - and the size is suitable, and the handle is very useful. I also tried on the stand, but the new one will not fit in there. I had to send after the unit ...
Iris
girls, good evening!
My mixer also broke down ... I ordered myself a Zelmer 481.67 and I already doubt it. Tell me who has such a mixer? What are the reviews? Does the mixer only beat on the counter or can it be removed and whipped in another dish?
Respond, hostesses !!! Help advice before it's too late to refuse.
Thank you in advance!!!
Keti
I bought it !!! Mixer Zelmer 481.63. As far as I understood, this is the Zelmer model with the largest completeness - only there are no scales.
Who is interested in showing what is in it.
I unpacked the box and my assistant was right there.
Mixer
This is closer: Minimalaxer - for slicing and chopping meat, cheese, nuts, onions, carrots, etc.
Mixer
This is an attachment for chopping ice and chopping frozen food
Mixer
Attachment for wiping boiled vegetables and fruits through a sieve
Mixer
The blender jar and blender leg in the first photo.
milf
I have thisMixer
As a mixer pleases, but here's a blender, it's awful. I had a brown multiquick, so the knives on both the submersible and the regular blender were very sharp, and this one was just metal strips, without any sharpening at all. We couldn't grind a banana with homemade cottage cheese for a child. I tried to chop feijoa in a bowl, so there the knives are raised up, they are cut into large pieces, they fall down and everything is out of the access zone of the knives.
Although the immersion blender whipped nutella perfectly (even better and faster than brown), and milk for cappuccino also whips well into a froth. In general, the blenders in this model are for cocktails only. So I'm thinking of asking my husband to sharpen knives on a submersible, if of course it works out.
Keti, judging by the photo in your glass, "Minimalaxer" should grind well, probably this was taken into account in the new model. And how much did it cost, if not a secret?
P. S. In your photo, a wonderful assistant is checking the unit
k.alena
Keti, what about your blender attachment? And then I choose for a gift just between these two models.And the difference between 481.63 and 481.64 is only in the presence of a blender attachment? And then even on the manufacturer's website I can't figure it out.But the price difference is noticeable
Keti
Thanks for attention. I just bought it last night. And yesterday I tested the mixer - I made a curd mass. The mixer beat the cottage cheese perfectly.
Blender and the rest haven't tried it yet.
I bought it in an online store. 584 hry.
I look at the book for the difference in 481.64 - no: blender legs, glass, blender bowl, chopper and ice pick.
k.alena
Well, there is no Zelmer 63 on the website at all, and the description of the 64th indicates the presence of a chopper (as I understand it, this is a glass with knives) and the absence of a blender's leg I think I don't need an ice pick at all. And the 64th costs about 400 UAH. So it turns out for one leg of the blender (I don't even know if my relative needs it) pay almost half the price of the mixer ... Although, on the other hand, when not yourself, you probably need to have more
Maybe you can try this very blender leg on the weekend? Report, plz, about the results
Keti
There is very little information and pictures on the site.
On some sites, the parameters of not a mixer, but a meat grinder are generally indicated
On this site for example:
Zelmer 481.63 placed in blenders
and everyone else is in mixers
For example, it was only here that I saw the complete set for the first time:
Even in the store, I could not clearly answer how one configuration differs from another.
On the contrary, I wanted everything and more

In the book there is a plate how all models differ. If I don’t forget I’ll take a scan to work. But this is already next week.
The list of models is as follows:
481.4
481.5
481.52
481.6
481.61
481.63
481.64
481.67
481.7
481.8
all differ in the presence or absence of one or another device.
Margit
Girls, what can you say about PHILIPS HR-1571 ESSENCE mixer.
"... This powerful Essence mixer is equipped with the FlexiMix system, which allows the attachments to move vertically and thus reach the most difficult-to-reach places in the bowl, regardless of its shape, ensuring better mixing or whipping."
This is the first time I've heard about this function of mixers.
k.alena
Keti, thank you very much, okay with her, with the instructions, you can somehow figure it out with the help of the Internet. If possible, try a blender and a bowl of knives, on which milf complained in 381 models.

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