Mixer

Squirrels are said to quickly whip up mixers that aren't with wire whisks. Even with low power.

I have a Bosch Turbofix, 350W. Beats whites with wire whisks in 1-2 minutes. But he is already 6 years old. The nameplate is

[Hairpin]

Before that, the GDR had served faithfully for many years.

My mother still has this - she has served faithfully since 1979.
And it's okay not to photograph my nameplate. Gray text on gray background
Here is the best angle

Hairpin, mine hums quietly, beats with TWO whisks longer (450W) than ONE whisk from a brown blender (600W). Moreover, the latter rakes everything in a heap, and Bosch smears it on the walls.
So, I'm thinking with my mother to change to the GDRovsky, especially since I recently disassembled it and cleaned the motor.

Does the mixer itself not get very hot? With mine too - there was a smell. It turned out that the fan propeller had crumbled. Now I have to take breaks to cool ...

So mine is not even a week old. The only thing that noticed (or rather felt) the smell when kneading the dough for Prague cakes. And it is tough, eggs, flour interfere with the butter crushed with sugar ... but still not yeast. And now it "smells" even in the off state
Before that, for exactly 10 years I had a similar Boshik with only 300W. And whipped the squirrels onto a biscuit as expected, and kneaded everything. Mom's exactly the same is still alive (we bought almost at the same time)

M-yeah, with modern mixers, it's just some kind of trouble. I wonder if anyone has a new mixer without problems?

three year old - is it new or old? I use it mercilessly.

Old, old
What brand?

Moulinex, 300 W

Well, I'm telling you. They refused to change me. They said, take it to the examination, or we will take it, but at your expense.
After lengthy chatter, the store owner called the cook, and she said that she had the same mixer that beats the whites normally. We stopped at the fact that tomorrow at four o'clock I meet with the cook at their place, and we beat the whites on my Bosch and, in parallel, on the old Tefala. True, they did not promise me anything ... But ...
Moreover, the cook first said that you can look directly at once, but the owner of the store looked at her sternly ...
I think they'll check it out today. If tomorrow it turns out that he whips 6 proteins in five minutes, I will be glad, but if not ...
Well at least in the next house ... Five minutes there, five minutes back ...

To be continued...

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, that's what I was afraid of ...
I also bought not far from you, but in a large store - in M-Video, in Metropolis. There, no one calls the cook for me

In that yes! I don't even know which is better: to change it or to whip it up in 5 minutes ... Let's wait for the continuation about the cook, what if she is a fairy? A?

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, Blimey! We don't just change, the money is returned back if you bring the goods within 14 days. You don't even need to explain the reason. That's how Moscow ... I'll keep my fists for you, insist on your own.

[lelik]

M-yeah, with modern mixers, it's just some kind of trouble. I wonder if anyone has a new mixer without problems?

lelik, without troubles: Kenwood HM-790. I wrote about him at the beginning of the topic.
bought it somewhere in the early summer of last year. I chose for a long time in terms of power (400) and rims (the stem is not wire and the stem is a long working part).
I do not use it every day, but often. I am very pleased: she beats the whites quickly, the batter interferes perfectly, cool (like on dumplings or unleavened cakes) mixes super. in general, it’s no longer kazhezza, it’s expensive, as you look at all these torments with the boshes, for example ...)

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, that's what I was afraid of ...
I also bought not far from you, but in a large store - in M-Video, in Metropolis. There, no one calls the cook for me

Large supermarkets are easier to change. They changed the waffle iron for me right away, and I dragged it all in oil ...

In that yes! I don't even know which is better: to change it or to whip it up in 5 minutes ... Let's wait for the continuation about the cook, what if she is a fairy? A?

In addition to the store, this owner also has a repair of household appliances ... maybe they will tweak something for me there ... or replace ...

Well, I'm telling you.

I brought my old mixer, we went to their meal room. They put both mixers on, the cook separated six proteins, mixed them and poured half into bowls. In minutes ... maybe three, maybe five, I stopped my old Tefal, and put a bowl of Tefal almost vertically against the wall with squirrels in a state of peaks and a crater in the middle. The owner brought a bowl from Bosch and put it next to it ... THE PROTEINS WERE IDENTICAL !!! I was so confused that I was speechless. Well, here the owner begins to say that the power of the mixer and the time for whipping the proteins are not directly proportional, I come to my senses and say:
- Man, my squirrels were flowing in half an hour!
Well, then I finally came to my senses, and said that I had a bottle. The cook gave out the second version that I just installed the bowl incorrectly ... Before that, she insisted several times that the mixer did not beat, because I immediately poured sugar. I also said several times that we didn’t manage to add sugar.
The owner brightened up already. He said that yesterday the man brought back the juicer for a return, because it does not work. He taught this man for an hour how to use a juicer, but after they made the juices, the man still wanted to return it. And here I am with a mixer. And that I did not expect at all that I would perceive everything so adequately. In short, we parted as friends and everyone is tip-top, only ... I don’t understand why nothing happened with my daughter ...

1. Bowl. I brought it in. I reread the instructions. Turned over the stand. Install the bowl so that it spins and does not dangle, you can only in one position.
2. Eggs + crooked hands. Considering that we have been beating whites 2-3 times a week for the second year already ... And they did not beat once. This...
3. Other options.

I'm sitting waiting for my bezheshnitsa, we will make meringues. If our squirrels don't beat again ...

Hairpin, and they whipped the proteins with your new mixer or with their own?

Hairpin, how? have not tried it yet? We are worried ... you already keep us informed ...

Yes, I didn’t understand either. With your new mixer, it was whipped or only with their Bosch. And what do you mean brought? Did they whip up in front of you?

[Tanya 1962]

1. Tanya 1962... Whipped with my Bosch. There was a yellow speck on them, just in case I remembered so as not to confuse. I even checked that it was also from Slovenia, and the nameplate is the same.
2. Lelik! I was so bothered that I'll go to bed now ...
3. Husky! Everyone whipped in front of me. He brought it from another table, at a distance of one and a half meters from the table on which Tefal was standing.

[Hairpin]

The good thing is that ends well. And further Hairpin Respect for admitting my mistake and not losing face. But where does the placement of the bowl for whipping the whites have to do with it? You can also whisk it by hand in the end. The result depends on the quality of the original product (by the way, weren't the proteins warm, in the sense not from the fridge? ) and the whipping speed (the higher it is, the faster we will get the desired result). Although the MUM at 4 speeds for whipping them chatters rather sluggishly and at first I can't even believe that anything will whip up at all, But after 6 minutes. (according to the instructions) they can be cut with a knife

Well glad for you very much
BUT the declared power is 2.5 times more, and they whipped up the same, good at least equally good ...
As soon as I can - I will disassemble the mixer, I wonder what is written on the engine there 450 or not

[Hairpin]

And at least they let me go about Bosch. The word "Bosch" hypnotizes me. And, throw tomatoes at me, Slovenia and China do not scare me next to him.Although, to be honest, I haven't seen a Chinese Bosch.

Hairpin, and there is a hole in the old woman. I noticed your love for meringues. Who knows, maybe some fat got caught somewhere in the bowl ... Well, what else happens? For me, for example, all sorts of eggs happen. The yolk is sometimes cepane. The main thing is that everything ended well. For me, for example, it is more pleasant that I was proved that I bought a working device than if I prove that I was sold garbage.

[Hairpin]

HairpinAn investigative experiment was carried out (in the process of making a curd casserole). I remind you that my mixer is weaker than 350W and there is no bowl for it. 3 squirrels in 3 minutes turned into a kind of dense "standing" substance. Only the smell is not good for me. Does every one of the ventilation grates smell good? And then you will have to go to the service to sniff
Also, I think that power is not related to the speed of whipping at all. The main thing is the rotation speed of the corollas (that is, the number of revolutions per minute), I think it is the same for all representatives of the model range. And the power needs to mix something thicker than proteins, work longer without overheating or grind something in extra. attachments to more powerful models. As I already said, the protein harvester whips for 6 minutes, and its power is 600 watts.

kalena, the fact is that I have a mum 4756 and it gives 4 + 2 in 6 minutes (t-t-t)
5-7 egg sponge cake + 1 cup sugar + 1 cup flour
A 200-watt mulik beat 4 eggs in turbo mode 3 times for 5 minutes, because it was getting hotter.
The current Bosch 3580 450 watts does not even beat 2 eggs (whole), it hardly whips the whites and does not want the yolks at all, well, there is no declared power,
obviously, and the speed of rotation of the corollas depends on it.
I also admit that it is unusual for me to hold it in my hands, Hairpin has a stationary bowl, I do not, and the old mixer looked like modern blenders - a long handle and a button.
I was no longer hoping to use whisks, but the current example is
makes you try again, try to change the position of your hand, suddenly help
Sorry for a lot of beeches
Yes. By the way, KALENA, there was no smell the first time, could anything have gotten accidentally or the winding?

[Conclusion]

Most of all I was shocked by the refusal to change. I've been grazing in this store for fifteen years. I have a TV, a vacuum cleaner, a telephone, and old Tefal from there. It's just that I haven't tried to change anything for fifteen years. And here I was so sure ... Well, the mixer. So I also wanted to buy a huge flat TV there! Moreover, when buying a mixer, the seller confirmed that there is an exchange / return in two weeks. So I think this is a warning ... But it's a pity ...

For me, for example, it is more pleasant that I was proved that I bought a working device than if I prove that I was sold garbage.

And for me. So there were three more mixers on the showcase. Two for two hundred watts, one for Moulinex 350 watts. So I didn't have much choice.

And also, I think that power is not related to the speed of whipping at all. The main thing is the rotation speed of the corollas (that is, the number of revolutions per minute), I think it is the same for all representatives of the model range. And the power needs to mix something thicker than proteins, work longer without overheating or grind something in extra. attachments to more powerful models.

Here he also told me approximately. But I told him that for me, as a housewife, the main thing is the time of whipping the whites into lances. The only technical characteristic that can even hint at this is power. Turnovers are not written there ...
He also said that the power ... well, stir the dough. More power, tighter dough will spin. I rarely make dough in a mixer ...

Conclusion... I invite all of us to try the mixers. Only not planar, but ordinary. Well, for example, on a meringue ... More precisely, on four squirrels. And report back:

Manufacturer - Model - Country - Power (Watt) - Time in minutes.

What if we are chasing watts in vain? I saw Willton in Technosila with closed a bowl of 350 watts for 800 rubles.If there is no difference, why pay more? Maybe Bosch will work for ten years, and this Willton - for three years ... It is so unknown what we will need in three years? Maybe all the mixers there will already be planetary ...

[Hairpin]

Hairpin... well, you should write detective stories .... it's half past four, I get up at 5, and here I read your story .... I'm very glad that everything ended well, although, logically, your new Bosch was supposed to beat twice as fast because it is more powerful. I am now also looking for a handicraft, and so I settled on Zelmer, well, I really like this company lately. Can anyone have: :) ​​and share their impressions?

1. It's not over yet, I haven't tried it at home yet.
2. About Zelmer wrote above. Seems good.

I think, nevertheless, that the speed of whipping proteins does not depend on the number of watts. Just more powerful. probably, you can immediately start a new whipping, and the less powerful one needs to rest.

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, and what is the shape of the corollas? How is the old one? It seems to me that the whipping speed also depends on the shape.
A blender has a whisk with a lot of springy wires, while a mixer has 4 and they are stiff.

The mixer beaters spread the squirrels in a bowl, the blender's beater gathers them together, and the old GDR mixer has the beaters with straight wires, while the Bosch mixer has bent beaters, so the GDR also rowed everything in a bunch, not too much to the sides. I think this also affects.
I will see how the old GDR and the new BOSCH will cope. I will beat 2 proteins each.

I think, nevertheless, that the speed of whipping proteins does not depend on the number of watts. Just more powerful. probably, you can immediately start a new whipping, and the less powerful one needs to rest.

Almost so. If the blender had vents, I wouldn't buy a blender. its 600W did just fine with everything, only with prolonged use it heats up.

[Hairpin]

Hairpin, and what is the shape of the corollas? How is the old one? It seems to me that the whipping speed also depends on the shape.
A blender has a whisk with a lot of springy wires, while a mixer has 4 and they are stiff.

My corolla shape is exactly the same as yours and Hairpins-t. e. as in the photo below. But I am happy with my mixer and he whips everything right. The only thing, you correctly noticed, that the corollas have a tendency to scatter proteins along the walls. Therefore, for whipping them I take a glass or a narrower container. But on the other hand, it is better to beat thick dough on eclairs with them, and then it is easier to clean than multi-wire nozzles.

I think I have adapted to my Bosch. Since I put the whites in the freezer before whipping, they whip perfectly. But I still beat the squirrels in a wide bowl so that there is more air access, while I always lie along the walls in a circle so that they move away from the walls, because of course they are very scattered along the walls, as was noticed.

So, I did an experiment. As a result, I was upset and surprised.
I decided to try on two proteins with each mixer, why 2 proteins, and not more. Because no one can eat meringue anymore.
I put the whipped whites into such
The old mixer went to the test first, beat at the second speed and 1 min 30 sec had well-beaten whites to those peaks.


Bosch went second, out of the 5 available, he chose 3 speed as the middle and after 1 min 30 sec got a wonderful frothy cocktail. No peaks or more or less stable mass. She calmly spread over the bowl.

I turned the mixer to the maximum speed of 5 and beat for another 2 minutes, and then I got the desired peaks. Cumulative result 3 min 30 sec


Conclusions begged by themselves. Power and speed are NOT related in ANY way. The emphasis on power applied to mixers is absolutely a marketing ploy. Even visually, when both are turned on at the same time, the difference in the number of revolutions - speed is visible.
On the question of the shape of the corollas. Mixer # 1 has straight lines, while mixer # 2 is slightly curved. The first one collects proteins in a heap and removes it quite well from the walls, the second diligently sprinkles it there.

Bosch can be removed from the whipped mass only after a complete stop and shake off the remains from the beaters manually. The old mixer stops longer after it is turned off and on this residual rotation, when it is taken out of the whipped mass, everything flies off the beaters by itself. With Bosch, this trick ended with wiping the table. I made 4 attempts in different variations and stopped at different speeds. As a result, the first one has almost clean rims, and the second one .... On both rims there are the remains of curd dough, its consistency was = saver for eclairs.


I rented an old mixer from my mother.

So, I ran an experiment. As a result, I was upset and surprised.

Lika, the report is very good, but, forgive me for being stupid, I didn't understand at all, why did you end up upset? Well, where to get mixers from the GDR now? It remains to choose from what is offered now. If you started whipping the egg whites right away at speed 5, your result would be faster. And the power may not affect the number of revolutions, but it will affect the tighter test, the more powerful it will be easier to cope with it. Someone does not need it, but someone may come in handy.

[Lika]

Lika! But you and I are smart now !!! Well, in terms of smarter !!! Well, at least a little consolation?

And to me the same analysis of my Tefal ... three-four-five years ago with Bosch 3560 to spread? Although I'm still not sure if I will reach the peaks ...

[Lika]

Lika, the report is very good, but, forgive me for being stupid, I didn't understand at all, why did you end up upset?

1. because new and powerful and all of itself is like that, but it works somehow.
2. I always approach the choice of technique very carefully. Everything I buy meets my expectations and performs exactly as I expected or better.
3. I have not seen or used any other mixers, except for this redhead. And I always believed that ALL mixers work like that, well, not a fool?

Lika! But you and I are smart now !!! Well, in terms of smarter !!! Well, at least a little consolation?

Definitely smarter

And to me the same analysis of my Tefal ... three-four-five years ago with Bosch 3560 to spread? Although I'm still not sure if I will reach the peaks ...

Don't, don't, otherwise I'll calm you downAnd then your 3560 differs from my 3530 only in the presence of a bowl, right?
So, I think my husband will agree to another mixer? Because this one annoys me sooo.

1. because new and powerful and all of itself is like that, but it works somehow.
2. I always approach the choice of technique very carefully. Everything I buy meets my expectations and performs exactly as I expected or better.
3. I have not seen or used any other mixers, except for this redhead. And I always believed that ALL mixers work like that, well, not a fool?

No, apparently I'm a fool, but I still don't understand how he somehow works. Whipped the whites. The dough for eclairs will also whip up, which I did yesterday with my Bosch-the dough is quite viscous, unlike proteins. Than he did not live up to expectations. I had GDRovsky, only white-gray, not orange. I can't imagine what the current one would do, what the other one did. Are there any corollas that do not shake off the remnants from themselves?

[Anastasia]

I didn’t understand how it somehow works. Whipped the whites. The dough for eclairs will also puff up, which I did yesterday with my Bosch-dough is rather viscous, unlike proteins. Than he did not live up to expectations.

At its snail's speed. I figured that more power will give speed no less than the previous one and than the blender. I do not need to beat the dough for them, it is NOT COMFORTABLE for me to beat the custard protein for so long. I need a mixer mainly for whipping creams and meringues with biscuit (proteins), and there are almost everywhere 6 proteins.

I do not convince anyone of anything. She showed what happened and expressed her opinion.
Anastasia, if you personally like your Bosch, well, that's great, but he disappointed me. Since 450 watts in bold red print on its body just scream about its greatness, but in fact these are just numbers.

But I told him that for me, as a housewife, the main thing is the time to beat the whites into lances. The only technical characteristic that can even hint at this is power. Turnovers are not written there ...

Like me Hairpin in a mixer this is the main characteristic, I, like her, was guided by power when choosing.
Maybe there are only two of us in the whole wide world who associated power with speed ... It was for such people that I conducted an experiment on the idea of ​​Studs

[Anastasia]

I do not convince anyone of anything. She showed what happened and expressed her opinion.
Anastasia, if you personally like your Bosch, well, that's great, but he disappointed me. Since 450 watts in bold red letters on its body just scream about its greatness, but in fact these are just numbers. Like me Hairpin in a mixer this is the main characteristic, I, like her, were guided by power when choosing.
Maybe there are only two of us in the whole wide world who associated power with speed ... It was for such people that I conducted an experiment on the idea of ​​Studs

Lika, I beg you not to be offended and not nervous at me. I am really satisfied with my Bosch, and oddly enough, I do the same to them as you do, we are getting along with the same recipes here on the forum and using them. Honestly, before your experiment, I thought that power plays a role anyway and in speed as well. But I didn't think it was so important that it would climb at a speed of 5 and in 4 minutes or in 5 minutes. If the count goes to minutes and seconds and you just fundamentally do not want to whip at a speed of 5, then of course Bosch will enrage you. But if you still change your mind about changing it and use speed 5, then I hope that everything will be very even and nothing. I sincerely hope that such a disorder is the only one in life and that nothing will ever upset or let you down again!

And one more question arises - if you cannot focus on power when choosing a mixer, then where is the guarantee that other mixers will turn out to be better and what then should you focus on when choosing them? After all, others also write only power, no one writes the number of revolutions.

I'll tell you about my today's epic. I got nervous about the smell from the engine. first called the service. The answer is diagnostics for 3-4 working days, then according to the circumstances: either a conclusion on the unsuitability and return to the store, or, if repair is needed, then wait about a month for s / h. I decided, since only 9 days from the date of purchase, I will carry it its me in the store. This was the rarest case when the equipment was not purchased on the Internet (the desire to own a mixer came during the holidays, when online stores do not deliver delivery. And the difference in the price of a small device is not at all significant.)
In general, the three of us smelled it: me and two saleswomen. There is a smell. They convince me that everything new smells like that. Then, as an experiment, they began to smell their mixers from the showcase. The first was at 450W - no smell They turned on this and that - no. Then the saleswoman brought exactly the same as mine - too there is a smell The riddle is simple. Well, my task was not to return, but to make sure it was in good working order, so everyone was happy

Then the saleswoman brought exactly the same as mine - too there is a smell The riddle is simple. Well, my task was not to return, but to make sure that it was in good working order, so everyone was happy

I didn't want to write anything about this earlier, so I feel like an outcast with my Bosch, but since you have already gone and checked it a little, now I can say, a little time will pass and the smell will pass. This happens with all mechanisms that are lubricated to glory. As soon as the grease is rubbed in and burns a little, the smell will pass and you will not remember it at all. I somehow spun a Belarusian mixer, so there was a lot of viscous grease inside, on other parts, so during operation it heated up from the friction of the gears and smelled at first, and then passed.

[Anastasia]

Anastasia, do not worry, I am also a fan of Bosch and I perfectly understand that "Mirgorod is not the same now, Khorol is not the same river ..." Now everything is disposable, even cars. The manufacturer needs to sell something new, but what if everything will serve for decades? Who will buy.
I saw the lubricant illuminating with a flashlight in the grille, but why then at 450 W odorless? Is the grease pinched? Or maybe for a more powerful motor (and a more expensive model), odorless lubricant?
Otherwise me my mixer quite arranges.

I saw the lubricant illuminating with a flashlight in the lattice, but why then 450 W odorless? Is the grease pinched? Or maybe for a more powerful motor (and a more expensive model), odorless lubricant?
Otherwise me my mixer quite arranges.

But about my 450 watts, I don't even remember, smelled or not smelled and did not understand it. so the devil only knows ...

The girls, the biggest and oldest fool - I, until three in the morning with my husband repeated physics.He, like Kalena, said that the rotation speed does not depend on the power, but depends on the voltage, it seems ... and we discussed and discussed, but so when you got sick with some kind of virus, then everything remained only in theory, practice - after the amendment
Anastasia, you guessed it, for some reason this mixer annoys me, but my husband suggested one idea - to play with the change of speeds.
After I try, it might help ...

Anastasia, you guessed it, for some reason this mixer annoys me, but my husband suggested one idea - to play with the change of speeds.
After I try, it might help ...

Try it. I just never thought about it, and unless the recipe specifically says that something needs to be done at a low speed, I just use the biggest one. So used to it. Not sure why it might be bad.

Even when it says in the recipe "stir with a spoon", at low speed with a mixer.

Even when it is said in the recipe "stir with a spoon", at low speed with a mixer Yesterday, the whipped proteins into everything else on the curd casserole with a mixer screwed in at 1 speed and nothing fell

For me, in such cases, somewhere around 30 percent may fall. But I can't mix flour into proteins with a spoon - lumps are obtained, so I use either a mixer or a manual whisk.

[Crumbs]

Now, if it was possible to compare the current Tefal and Bosch, then it would be good. Unfortunately, we could not find reviews of modern Tefal mixers at all.

We can compare the new Tefal y Crumbs (the same model as mine, only without a bowl) and my old one. Although ... something tells me that it will be the same ... at best ...Crochet spoke well of him.

[Crumbs]

We can compare the new Tefal y Crumbs (the same model as mine, only without a bowl) and my old one. Although ... something tells me that it will be the same ... at best ...Crochet spoke well of him.

Well, for statistics, you can. After all, there is not a single review on tefal on Yandex.

And now I whipped the squirrels into bezeshki with my Boshik - 2 squirrels about 3 minutes to the peaks I liked it - light, it buzzes nicely, a cool breeze from the tail I will not go to hand over