Arkady _ru
Looks solid ... Pretty heavy. Quiet for all the desire not to call. The most comfortable speed for the ear is 3, then 2, 4.1, 5.6 and 7. It does not stop immediately, with residual inertia. If you fold it back during operation, it will stop, there the limit switch is in the folding mechanism. If you immediately lower it back, it will continue to work at maximum, instantly dropping it to its original speed. Housing like silumin, or very hard plastic combined (the top cover is exactly plastic, the bottom is like a painted silumin, the middle part has not yet been understood). The visible part of the drive is metal, the hook and blade are also, but the rim has a tetrahedron and a plastic body. Reflective washers are flexible and will not break.
The impression is that there is a turbocharging in it. The sound character is similar to a very powerful vacuum cleaner. Kneading the dough in bed, in a dream, in the middle of the night is definitely not worth it - they will nail it to the wall. But you can try to drown out the case ... just get inside. Hands the body is muffled noticeably. Cable 1.2m. So far I have not tried to knead anything, but somehow there is no doubt about the possibilities of doubts at all.
PS: but still, it sounds somewhat different from a vacuum cleaner. Kote, who shied away from the sound of the vacuum cleaner, did not react to the kneader. So I continued to sleep 1.5m away from him. And then he crossed over and now sleeps next to him. He's got a sweet tooth, so we've already made friends.
Olga VB
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Well, I took the Clatronic KM 3400 (aka BOMANN KM 370). It cost 5800r, and so 5910r.
So, yes, a little bit wrong. I spoke with people who carry these things, sell them, repair them - they are done at the same plant, but on different lines, a couple of parts inside are different (plastic-metal).
I was told that if you take it, then Boman is better.
And even better - a proficouk.
I took ... Kesha.
I heard good reviews from those who took Boman, especially about the all-metal models.
Arkady _ru
I also thought ... Bomann is primary. The Bomann has a metal body, and it will be a little heavier in weight. But good plastic will be no worse than silumin. I have not seen bad reviews over the hill about the Boman and Clathronic kneaders. Only 5 *. At "that plant" there are also Kenwoods and a lot of other things. What is on different lines should not be surprising; it cannot be otherwise.
It was upsetting that these models of Bomann and Clathronic come without a cover. I hoped, but in vain ... Well, it's not a problem at all, you can pick it up.
About five minutes of work and rest is 2 kg. heavy test. There is no cooling fan inside (what a pity), so if you put it around for days.
It does not stink of plastic (it is argued that the clathronic makes everything from primary products).
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REDMOND RFP - 3904 🔗 (I'm going to buy it for CLATRONIC KM 3400, since I thought to take the combo because of the graters / shredders / cube + dough mixer; the price comes out 5800r + 4600r; not so cheap, but nothing superfluous)

tuskarora
Girls, boys, I again returned to this Temko. Proficuk served me for two years and now the problems began. It turns off spontaneously. I was kneading the dough into paski - I had to stand and hold the on-handle, because it was worth letting go - it turned off. The sound of work became somewhat uneven. Mode buttons are not pressed. In general, there is a problem - what to buy. I probably don’t want proficiency. To be honest, Kesha can't afford it, especially when we have such a whistle in the state and the dollar jumps like mad. In general, you have to think.
Olga VB
And if the proficiency in the SC to give medical treatment? maybe there is a cheap problem.
tuskarora
Maybe of course.You just need to collect your thoughts and take them away. Another question is who else uses the KM 3476 Clathronic? Is it even kind of heated?
Olga VB
See Boman with heating BOMANN KM 379 CB
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tuskarora
It is the same. Almost one to one. There are none in Ukraine.
Tatoshenka
And what is the heating for? And his batch is planetary?
tuskarora
judging by the video - planetary. The topic "Klatronic kneaders" has reviews for this model. The warmer can be used for proving the dough, for example, or for making leavened dough, so as not to jump around the stove with the mixer. Well, that's how I imagine it. I will first try to reanimate my Profi Cook, if not then I will buy such a kneader.
ElenaMK
Girls, I am to you for advice.
At first I wanted a mixer with a bowl to knead the dough and beat the eggs, read it here and realized what. the choice is not easy ... it still turns out there are mixers for pasta ..
What kind of mixer-kneader to take so that you beat the eggs and interfere with the tight dough?
ElenaMK
I watched the stadler mixer sfm 330 and clathronic 3323
vatruska
Elena, it's useless ... until the members of the forum are not an ovechinnut (I don't even know how to write it correctly) and the dough is divided - it's useless to ask something ... Only by reading reviews on the internet and using the folk method.
Masinen
ElenaMK, it all depends on your budget.
Kenwoods do well with both eggs and tight doughs.
Olga VB
Quote: ElenaMK
What kind of mixer-kneader to take so that you beat the eggs and interfere with the tight dough?
Cheap and cheerful - dough mixers at Boman, Proficuk has also proven itself well.
More versatile (not only dough) - Kenwood is more expensive and the same Boman with Proficuk is cheaper. There are others, from the most everyday to the most professional.
Focus on your volumes, needs and wallet.
In addition, all cars, for example, sound differently, for some it is important, but for some it is not. Etc.
Many people, starting with "just a kneader", get a taste and want a more versatile machine.
Or ask your questions more informatively.
Actually, it would be nice to read the thread, there are such questions and answers to them on every page. And on every page we answer them. For whom?
Here you write, what You looked, and why exactly these?, You have to understand in order to push in the right direction.
vatruska
ElenaMK, I'm also looking ... As far as I understand, it is still impossible to compare these two models. The first is, roughly speaking, a mixer on a stand, it has standard nozzles for a hand mixer, and why do they say that it is planetary? In the video from Lazerson, by the way, the work of this mixer is perfectly visible. Clathronic is already a stationary machine with attachments for dough and creams. Here I sit and think - do I need it? That is, as far as I need it instead of a burnt out manual binaton, especially when you consider that a little more and the doorway will have to be expanded
And donuts in the oven ...
olga0101
Quote: Masinen
Kenwoods do well with both eggs and tight doughs.
and what kenwoods to watch tell me?
I also need to be able to beat and knead ...
Masinen
See 570, 010, 020, 770.
They differ in volume and power and attachments included.
olga0101
Masinen, this is not my budget at all ..
it would be cheaper for me. 10 thousand will keep within.
the most important thing is to work as a mixer and as a kneader. and could knead any dough from pancake to dumplings.
Masinen
Then take a look at Boman or profikuku.
Sweetlana78
svarnoy3,
Hello, maybe I'm not on the topic, sorry, moderators and redirect, for some reason I could not find how to write to you, I see that you understood your gastroag, can help me in this situation. I have the same unit as yours, and where the nozzle is attached a little higher there is a white plastic insert, and now some kind of technical lubricant began to appear between it and the iron one, it smells like oil for cars and at high speed, when I beat the proteins, for example, it flows straight and splashes on the walls of the bowl, bought the unit through the Internet, do you think this is a serious breakdown? Where can I run with him? Or can this be quickly fixed? I don't want to leave the family for a long time without bread and baking (thanks in advance for the answer)
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nincha
Hello everyone. Thought, dreamed, searched, and still settled on KitchenAid. I bought it today. Here I rinsed and set the hook. I am morally preparing to start kneading my bread! I'll tell you what and how.

I just washed it.
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Olga VB
Nina, congratulations, let him serve honestly and faithfully!
nincha
Quote: Olga VB
Congratulations, let him listen honestly and faithfully!
Thank you
I have already kneaded a loaf of bread, put it on proofing, tomorrow I will bake it. Oh, how does he knead. I'll make another photo one of these days.
In the meantime, just so quick on the phone.

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nincha
Thank you. just planned there. But the bottom line is that the topic of choosing a kneader that I have been looking for for so long. So I can say with confidence - this thing does its job and does it perfectly!
Peter Push
Quote: olga0101
it would be cheaper for me. 10 thousand will keep within.
the most important thing is to work as a mixer and as a kneader. and could knead any dough from pancake to dumplings.
Olga 0101
Consider the Clathronic 3323, which is budget friendly and very good at work. I use it for 7 months, almost every other day. He beats the eggs perfectly, and all at once and separately, I beat the proteins on my meat-eating cake into marshmallows. The dough kneads perfectly, and is moist and dumplings. For a detailed analysis, see here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=com_smf&topic=173608.new... Good luck to you!
olga0101
Peter Push, Thank you
I have already decided that it will be either a boman or a clathronic
now it remains to dig up the money)) otherwise I really do not enjoy cooking :))))
all the pancakes, and pancakes - what you can knead with a blender))
Aygul
Quote: olga0101

I have already decided that it will be either a boman or a clathronic
I also stare at Boman Especially in the light of the upcoming ham making
Tatoshenka
And I looked and looked and bought a Clathronic with heating, I liked it, although I thought to buy Kesha, but I had to save money for it,: girl-th: but I wanted it today and now, especially since the ham maker has already arrived.
Galina Danilovna
Good day! Girls, please tell me which dough mixers are heated? The rest of the attachments are not needed. I would like to buy a kneader for yeast dumplings, dumplings, shortbread, biscuit dough and to be heated.
Olga VB
Kenwood, Bomann, Clatronic, ..........
olga0101
Tatoshenka, and what is yours. model?
And in general, for what purpose do you need heating?
Tatoshenka
olga0101, I have Klatronic 3476. In the topic "Klatronic kneaders" there are reviews about him and about his twin brother Boman. Well heating for all sorts of sauces, choux pastry, cream, etc. Heating up to 140g. Today I wanted to make mashed potatoes (there is a recipe in the attached book) but did not have time, I was distracted.
In general, I have had it since Thursday, so I haven't cooked much yet, only in plans.
Tatoshenka

olga0101, I have Klatronic 3476. In the topic "Klatronic kneaders" there are reviews about him and about his twin brother Boman. Well heating for all sorts of sauces, jams, choux pastry, cream, etc. Heating up to 140g. Today I wanted to make mashed potatoes (there is a recipe in the attached book) but did not have time, I was distracted.
In general, I have had it since Thursday, so I haven't cooked much yet, only in plans.
Aenta
Quote: Tatoshenka
Klatronic 3476. In the topic "Klatronic kneaders" there are reviews about him and about his twin brother Boman.

Thanks for the tip! I am so "dark" that I did not know that there are heating.
Tatoshenka
Yes, not at all
Lerele
I have a question, is power important when choosing a kneader? Why I ask, Bosch looked, there is from 500 to 600 watts of power, and in Boman and Clathronic 1000 or 1200 even in some models. I need a clean kneader without meat grinders, graters, etc. The choice is small, because everything is with bells and whistles I don't need.
Well, also, find three differences, exactly the same, which one is better?

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Do they make a lot of noise ?? And then in negative reviews they write about the noise.
Tatoshenka
Well, everyone has their own perception of noise, mine makes noise at the highest speed less than a Kenwood meat grinder. At medium speed, it does not bother me at all to watch TV at my usual volume.
olga0101
Tatoshenka, thank you, I liked yours too, the fact that heated is probably not bad.
And about the noise, at medium speed can you knead the dough when everyone is asleep?
Lerele
I watched the video on YouTube, it’s so noisy for me, my uncle told me, so the noise overlaps speech in heated clathronics.
My bread maker is interfering quietly, but some pieces have already begun to fall off from it, she is 13 years old poor fellow.
Tatoshenka
So I don't compare with HP, I compared it with a meat grinder, I have HP Panasonic, so I don't even notice it when it kneads, I hear only when the yeast dispenser falls asleep. And this is a big powerful machine and, of course, you can hear it when it works. At 1-3 speeds it is quiet, and at the last speed it will score.
As for whether it will interfere with sleep, I don't even know, an electric dryer in another room interferes with my godmother's sleep, and it does not interfere with my family at all.
Lerele
And I do not have a meat grinder, there is nothing to compare with.
Ezlki, as if with the choice of this unit, you will lose sleep, yesterday in the night the whole Internet climbed.
Most importantly, I lived without him, kneaded the dough in the Bread Maker, beat the eggs with a hand mixer. And then I ordered a dough sheeter, so it was right with a dough mixer
Tatoshenka
Lerele, so do not say, as it will, so neither day nor night.
In general, I have been choosing a dough mixer for more than two years, but I had bouts of desire only before Easter, so that I could knead the cakes, otherwise it turns out very little in HP. And this year I kneaded it with a hand mixer with hooks and generally burned out for purchase. And so in my everyday life HP is quite satisfied, the amount of dough that she kneads was enough for me, she kneads the tough dough with a bang. Then I bought a ham maker and away we go. Although during my stay at the forum I bought myself a bunch of devices separately, I gave my harvester to my mother, because I was too lazy to carry and collect it, and his bowl is not big. Therefore, I only needed a kneader with a large bowl, Bosch disappeared primarily because of the small bowl, and I don't need all of his attachments. I wanted Kenwood, but the toad made itself felt (and only for mixing it decided that the purchase was not justified, if I needed additional options, I would only take it), so I already decided on the Clathronic (Boman) dough mixer, which without any additional ... nozzles, only a whisk, a spatula and a hook, went into the topic and found out that there are also heated and again flour of choice. Then I read Anastasia's review in the topic of the Klatronic dough mixer and decided, as her husband said: "Is this a sampler?" And then I have lately a mania to order a pair of devices, there are three electric dryers
The meat grinder in it is not bad, I ground chicken and pork in it, today I will grind beef. (Of course it works a little slower than my Kenwood, but it does the job)
Aygul
Natalia, and what model, 3476, right? After all, I have already made up my mind almost naked Boman, I am waiting for the receipt of money, so that with a clear conscience and a full wallet I could order. And now, again, in thought - all of a sudden I want more opportunities ... By the way, I will hardly use the heating, I certainly will not. But add. functional

Does the 3350 actually have pasta attachments? Does anyone have it? What do you think? At what level is the meat grinder just like an opportunity, if anything, or normal, quite possible to replace a separate device? And what is the self-cleaning function? How does this happen?
olga0101
Quote: Aygul
After all, I have already made up my mind almost naked Boman, I am waiting for the receipt of money, so that with a clear conscience and a full wallet I could order. And now, again, in thought - all of a sudden I want more opportunities ... By the way, I will hardly use the heating, I certainly will not. But add. functional

I, too, originally wanted "naked")) but now I think maybe if you take it, take it like that))) heated)) what if you need it))
Well, a meat grinder is also a necessary thing, although I have it, but I rarely get it.
a month later, etc. from me, they will give the money, add it and buy it. during this time, you still need to choose ...
but in general, initially I wanted a stationary mixer, just for kneading the dough, then I did not know about the existence of such devices as "kneaders"
now I understand that an ordinary mixer will not cope with the tasks that I wanted to entrust to it - from pancake dough to dumplings
so it is necessary to determine)) and I think that with the purchase of a kneader I will probably give up buying a bread machine. until the bread can be baked in the oven))
True, the bread maker saves time, since it does everything itself. okay, wait and see)))
Tatoshenka
Aygul, well, yes, I have 3476. I myself do not even really know why I wanted it with heating, probably from considerations, let it be better than then I will regret that I wanted, but did not take
Aygul
Judging by the reviews and characteristics, there is no heating in the 3350, but there are really nozzles for pasta + a meat grinder, there is even a blender, but I don't need it. No shredder or grater, but I have a great blender + Berner. So this is probably the most suitable for me in terms of functionality.
Mirabel
Natalia, Tell me. and the dimensions of your kneader are not prohibitive? I also began to think about them.
After all, she lived quietly with a bread machine and a hand mixer. I tell the home ones that the mixer is out of order ... and I myself choose the kneader.
Aygul
Quote: Mirabel

Natalia, Tell me. and the dimensions of your kneader are not prohibitive?
Yes, Natasha, in comparison with a multicooker-pressure cooker if possible

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