Masinen
And I was looking for 46 and did not find)
GIZI
Need a kneading machine. In search of her new assistant, she searched the entire Internet. I opted for the Assistant Original, aka Ankarsrum Original. Here is an ambush ... The price of those sold in Russia, however, bites. In my dreams of the unit, I stumble upon the live magazine Bread & Bread and information about joint purchases. Assistant for 25 thousand for the basic set. The dream may well come true.
But what is it ... Another joint purchase took place just a few days ago in October ... I still have the hope of purchasing a combine at a "normal" price, if there are those who want to buy this machine again.
Olga VB
Quote: Lecs
If I were you, I would take Kenwood, there is a Blender meat grinder and a lot of everything, there is good support on the forum, the technique is tried and true.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Now I am actively looking for ways to acquire Kenwood, but I have not yet decided on the model and with additional nozzles: I can not find a complete list of possible nozzles anywhere.
I would like to order everything at once in one place.
I am trying to figure out how to order CM from Germany, since in Russia it is almost 2 rubles. it turns out more expensive, and not all models are presented.
I have 040 fuse, but here it is not ...
I crawl on German sites, but I myself do not boom-boom in the language. And translators translate in such a way that you can understand exactly the opposite.
I have another panic
Mist
Does anyone know what about such a machine?
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Olga VB
What are you going to do with it? - she has a capacity of only 450, viscous (rye) and steep (dumplings) dough, she will not pull.
And ordinary white bread will not give in to her ...
Mist
Quote: Olga VB

What are you going to do with it? - she has a capacity of only 450, viscous (rye) and steep (dumplings) dough, she will not pull.
And ordinary white bread will not give in to her ...

It's a pity, that's exactly what I was going to do
Or maybe here, like Kitchen, the working power is indicated?
Olga VB
And who knows!
This, of course, should be asked from users.
celfh
Girls, boys, can anyone say something about the Kuechenmeister food processor? I did not find a single review ((
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It is necessary to buy a relative as a gift, Ankarsrum for a gift is expensive.
Olga VB
Something his power is too small, only 350W ...
How much are you in the mood for?
I've read a couple of good and detailed reviews from real users.
Our name is not promoted, so the prices are very affordable, it is made at the same plant in China as Keshi - for the same Germany, supplied to the European Union with appropriate quality control ...
I, for example, look closely at 379 models
So far, the less power than that of Kesha and the absence of some attachments, which is hot
Omela
Quote: celfh

Girls, boys, can anyone say something about the Kuechenmeister food processor? I did not find a single review ((
🔗
It is necessary to buy a relative as a gift, Ankarsrum for a gift is expensive.
Tan, and Bosch? Verified !!!! This is what Ira (kisuri) showed: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=12075.0

And these films are given out: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=183759.0
Galin
I really like this machine (Ankarsrum). And how does the batch do great. But now I am wondering if I need this device (so that I can connect to a joint purchase). We do not eat so much bread and do not bake so often (once a week), will the device be so in demand in our family. On the other hand, the taste of bread from a bread machine is already boring, I want something different. Well, in the end, I want to master something new, a new device and a new approach to baking. I think, but until 1, there is very little time left.
Vei
Guys, what is the price of the question? And they are not subject to guarantees, right?
Gala
Liza, the price of a standard set, sufficient for a home baker, is 25 thousand rubles.
The price of the extended set is 38 thousand rubles.
sazalexter
It stands as an "airplane" and is not subject to a guarantee. For a home baker, unless, of course, baking for a "company of soldiers" is enough Bosch MUM or Kenwood10
Masinen
It costs 600 euros for a flour mill ru + delivery from Germany.
sazalexter
For 600 euros, this is Bosch MUM + cube + ALL graters and will still have a small banquet or just 2 MUM
Masinen
I also dreamed of them, but I bought Kenwood and the attachments are different and happy as an elephant !!!
Very cool!!
But Ankarsrum is probably better, I don’t argue))
Gala
Mashun, maybe it is better, but depending on what purpose. For example, if you constantly and a lot bake mainly from white flour, then probably it is very good. I also looked at him, I liked him, but still I realized that for my purposes I did not need him. Now I think Kenwood or Kitchen
Crochet
Quote: Vei

Guys, what is the price of the question? And they are not subject to guarantees, right?

Lizonka, I have a guarantee though I bought mine from us, the standard set cost me a little less than 35 tons.
Vei
Well, yes, the question is rhetorical, really Kitchen, I still don't want to, I recently realized this. But Kenwood or Ankarsrum?
Although I do not bake so much, I clearly do not have enough HP for pies, you cannot knead dumplings and noodles in it. In general, I only have 400-500 g of flour kneading as much as possible. You can't make the same shortbread or puff pastry in HP ...
So I am in thought.
julifera
Quote: Vei

Well, yes, the question is rhetorical, really Kitchen, I still don't want to, I recently realized this. But Kenwood or Ankarsrum?
Although I do not bake so much, I clearly do not have enough HP for pies, you cannot knead dumplings and noodles in it. In general, I only have 400-500 g of flour kneading as much as possible. You can't make the same shortbread or puff pastry in HP ...
So I am in thought.

Liza - noodle-dumplings and shortbread are very cool with knives in a matter of seconds!
Then it remains only to collect in a ball!
Luda-Lissss I wrote about this for a very long time and also exhibited a video, but I won't find something quickly, so for now, only this:

Dumplings dough in 21 seconds, no kneading! (with knives in a combine) + video
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=283291.0
Gala
Quote: Vei

..... I really don't want Kitchen, I recently realized that.
Liz, why?
Vei
Quote: + Gala +

Liz, why?
I don’t know, he just doesn’t put me in)))) everything is banal and simple, like women have)))
I suddenly realized that I don't like him and that's it)))
Masinen
Liz, I'm dying over you)) then Kitchen is not the man that you like
julifera
Quote: Masinen

Liz, I'm dying over you)) then Kitchen is not the man that you like

A man is Kenwood, and Kitchen, in all external parameters, is a woman.
Masinen
Ahh, well then it's understandable why Liza doesn't like Kitchen.
And Keshka, yes, a real peasant)
Gala
Girls, well, you give!
According to this principle, Ankarsrum is a woman of the 50s
sazalexter
Kenwood has a brutal design, yeah .. and Kitchen, forgive something incomprehensible from the 50s of the 20 century, but it looks like a lady, but something does not excite. Looks like a Soviet fan
julifera
Quote: sazalexter

Looks like a Soviet fan

Looks like a beetle - an old scratched beetle

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Vei
Yes, I usually just love every kind of retro, and there are a lot of colors, BUT he does not excite my Wishlist and I don’t know everything, I don’t have a clear picture of how I’m doing something next to Kitchen in snot with happiness!
In general, I do not know ... And they are all so expensive!
Shaman
Something was so offensive for Kitchens, I went to the kitchen to take a picture of mine (the quality of the photo is not very good - from the phone). But after all, he is not that ugly, and very much even nothing.Kneading machines
AlenaT
Tanyush, don't be offended!))))
The girls are just having fun, they are not out of malice)))
And what would grandfather Freud say to them, I wonder ???)))
Vei
Tanya, no one says that Kitchen is not handsome, that you are!
It's just that the price for about all these units is the same, the functionality is pole-minus too, and then there are subjective assessments of perception. The choice is very difficult to make ... for me anyway.
Gala
Quote: Shaman

Something was so offensive for Kitchens, I went to the kitchen to take a picture of mine (the quality of the photo is not very good - from the phone). But after all, he is not that ugly, and very much even nothing.
... I like him, there is something genuine about him ...
Galin
Quote: Vei

The choice is very difficult to make ... for me anyway.

Me too, but I still don't understand what to choose.
Olga VB
Well, yes, the choice is difficult, especially since it is not always clear in advance which functions will be key, and whether the best will not be the enemy of the good.
And often our kitchens are not the most spacious, but there is a lot of hotzza, so we pay attention to multifunctional machines.
And then it begins: this such and such machine does well, but the other does not, and so on.
It is clear that a narrow-profile technique is best suited for a specific task, but where to find a place for everything ...
And which of the "all-in-one" does everything well by the average mining standards and has many functions? - it is clear what, not cheap
So we are rushing about, hotzza is both cheap and cheerful, but it does not come out.
For example, these vibrations more and more nags me to Kesha 080. Although the issue price is annoying.
Vei
I don't need the 80th, or rather its induction heating. I am most worried about the opportunity to beat 3 squirrels and at the same time knead the dough for 1 kg of flour, plus for noodles and dumplings so that I can master it. That is, both small and large. And also the opportunity to subsequently buy all sorts of gadgets (potato peelers, ice cream makers, sieves, millers, etc.).
Which one meets these requirements? And I wonder which one is more compact or at least more thoughtful?
Olga VB
As far as I know, Kesha has the maximum number of nozzles now. Moreover, you can buy a "naked" CM, and then purchase them separately as you wish.
And with induction, not everything is clear: if tomorrow you want to work with choux pastry or bread infusions, you cannot buy this function separately.
There are many Keshi models that allow you to separately buy attachments, their power and volume of the bowl are different.
They are all thoughtful for their class. But, probably, the newer models 030, 040 and 080 take into account the flaws of the previous ones.
But with the compactness, not everything is unambiguous, because often the dimensions are directly proportional to the power.
The dough, even tight, any of them will knead for you. And any of them will beat at least 1 egg (it can be adapted there, although it is more convenient with a hand mixer). But not everyone can handle a large volume.

But your "TP" may already require a given power.
For example, a meat grinder attachment on a KM with a power of less than 1500 W will not cope with any meat. Yes, and 1500 not with any, but ...
So you must first decide on the "TP", then the model will become clear.
Vei
Yes, I just have a Kenwood meat grinder, it grinds everything, but it makes noise and is healthy. It turns out that I still won't get rid of it (((
celfh
Quote: Shaman

Something was so offensive for Kitchens, I went to the kitchen to take a picture of mine (the quality of the photo is not very good - from the phone). But after all, he is not that ugly, and very much even nothing.
This is my crystal dream. If I had a bigger family, I would have no doubts for a second - I would buy it.
Galin
So I am stopped by the fact that the family is small, and so I look and lick my lips and persuade myself that for now I can wait with this, but I still want to.
Dr.NO
Quote: Vei

Yes, I just have a Kenwood meat grinder, it grinds everything, but it makes noise and is healthy. It turns out that I still won't get rid of it (((
It depends on what model of the meat grinder.
Masinen
Quote: Vei

I don't need the 80th, or rather its induction heating. I am most worried about the opportunity to beat 3 squirrels and at the same time knead the dough for 1 kg of flour, plus for noodles and dumplings so that I can master it. That is, both small and large. And also the opportunity to subsequently buy all sorts of gadgets (potato peelers, ice cream makers, sieves, millers, etc.).
Which one meets these requirements? And I wonder which one is more compact or at least more thoughtful?
Liz, then see the 4.6 liter models. You don't need more.
By the way, mine with 1000 watts scrolls meat very well.
Masinen
Quote: Shaman

Something was so offensive for Kitchens, I went to the kitchen to take a picture of mine (the quality of the photo is not very good - from the phone). But after all, he is not that ugly, and very much even nothing.Kneading machines
By the way, I really wanted Kitchen, but the price stopped me. I really like it. And the design is so historical)
But it was just by chance that I got a discount in technosil and bought Kesha)
Olga VB
Girls-boys, trying to make a decision, but somehow with a creak ...
I found a "naked" Kenwood KM 080 for 54,900 rubles and was twitching: grab or wait for more discounts after the New Year.
My husband says that I have to take it, but the toad is strangling me: after all, even without any discounts, you can take Kesha 080 and a full set of 11 attachments I need for this money, along with delivery from Germany.
But there, without a guarantee, you will have to wait, but here it is more expensive, but the day after tomorrow I already have ...
That is, crayfish are large and 5, but yesterday, and today are small, but 3 ...
What to do, what to do!?!?!?
Masinen
Olga, I would be from Germany and with all the attachments, well, it's me!
Vei
I'm mentally not ready to pay 50 thousand for a harvester
I would be over 15, well, 20 thousand and with nozzles already, even if something is easier (like 010 or 020). By the way, I still do not understand yet what is the difference between them in numbers?
Masinen
Liz, probably in power and design, most likely.
Have you looked at Avito? There are three proposals for Kenwood)
Vei
Quote: Masinen

Liz, probably in power and design, most likely.
Have you looked at Avito? There are three proposals for Kenwood)
Yes, there are from 21 thousand to 35 ... This is tuuuu mach)))
Masinen
The one for 35, this aunt said that she would give for 30. I bought a nozzle from her)
And over 21 is the same as mine
And there is also for 7 thousand

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