maskarad50
Hello, I'm new here))) I read about the miracle kneaders) and decided that I also need one, but I'm not going to use it on an industrial scale, only for home. And the prices bite, I found such a company BOMANN on the internet, their models KM 362 CB and KM 370 CB are acceptable at a price, maybe someone has heard about this company or uses it, share
Masinen
They praise the clathronic and proficiency. With a boman in the same concern.
And there are no reviews about the boman, although it looks impressive.
dogsertan
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Hello, I'm new here))) I read about the miracle kneaders) and decided that I also need one, but I'm not going to use it on an industrial scale, only for home. And the prices bite, I found such a company BOMANN on the internet, their models KM 362 CB and KM 370 CB are acceptable at a price, maybe someone has heard about this company or uses it, share

The perfect choice (my golden dream) Ankarsrum Original Assistant AKM6290 food processor. There will be no problems with kneading even the batter itself, plus additional accessories if desired, but the price accordingly ...
Masinen
Sergei, it's all clear that he's cool!
But the question was about a budget mixer.
And ankarsrum is not budgetary at all))
Olga VB
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, in the internet I found such a company BOMANN, their models KM 362 CB and KM 370 CB are acceptable at a price, maybe someone has heard about this company or uses it, share
I don't use it, but while I was choosing a typewriter for myself, I also looked closely at Boman.
If you need it exclusively for dough, and then you do not want any extensions such as dough rollers, meat grinders, mills and other things, then the KM 370 is a very good model, everything is metal, both the body and the bowl, copes well with any test in the recommended volumes, I communicated with users - happy.
By the way, he has a BOMANN KM 379 CB, an analogue of Kesha 080, with heating and a good set of nozzles, only there is no induction, but heating elements.
Indeed, the Boman is produced at the same plant as the Klatronic with the Proficus and, in fact, are full analogs of the Klatronic.
So, if exactly, exactly (?) Nothing but mixes, then the choice is quite good. And if there is something else, then look at their harvester - quite a budget version of "German" equipment (in the sense that it is done in China for the same Germans and under their control).
dogsertan
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Sergei, it's all clear that he's cool!
But the question was about a budget mixer.
And ankarsrum is not budgetary at all))

Excuse me stupid
Parallel
no matter how they look down on the gastroragne here, nevertheless, it has been working for me for a year. almost every day, though mainly in the confectionery direction - beat the biscuit into 9 eggs, cream, if a large amount is needed, knead 4 portions of honey cake at once, used to whip homemade marshmallows and knead 2 kg mastic (now I switched to purchased mastic). Unfortunately, I rarely make yeast, but for a kilogram of flour it does an excellent job. I also kneaded cakes in it. I made gingerbread dough. so for a budget option, it copes well. if (mmm) breaks down, I'll probably buy the same one, as long as there is no way to pay 40 thousand and more for a kneader.
Parallel
oh, I almost forgot about a big fly in the ointment in this barrel of honey - it makes a terrible noise (((children run away and close in another room)))
maskarad50
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I don't use it, but while I was choosing a car for myself, I also looked closely at Boman.
thanks for the answer
maskarad50
Thanks for the answer, I rummaged in the internet and saw that the Bomman were twins with the Klatronic), but I still stopped at Bomman, I’ll buy it as he’s in business, I watched the video on the U-tube, it’s kind of easy to use, except for the dough kneading function I got nothing from him no more (dumplings, dumplings, yeast dough)
Vei
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oh, I almost forgot about a big fly in the ointment in this barrel of honey - it makes a terrible noise (((children run away and close in another room)))
Gulya, I also bought such a Gastrorag a year ago, but it didn't work out for me. First, it turned out that the bitter was from a different model, and for a long time they could not exchange it for me.When exchanged, the socket where the nozzles are inserted broke. As I was told, I was the first such unlucky person, but in the end the money was returned to me for it.
He did not beat me less than 6 proteins, he could not use the bitter, and he kneaded the yeast dough well with a hook. But the noise is absolutely impossible - just terribly construction and crushing. My head exploded. In general, I was glad to get rid of him, now I want myself Kenwood.
Irina Ekb
Can you please tell me which kneader to buy for yeast, dumplings dough?
For a family of 3.
Use - 2-3 times a week.
(attachments: meat grinder and cubes are not needed).
Considering -BOSH, Kenwood, Assistant.
You understand, in the morning you think that maybe Boshik will have enough,
and in the evening - take, so take.
I really need advice!
pushkar
Quote: Irina Ekb
Can you please tell me which kneader to buy for yeast, dumplings dough?
For a family of 3.
Use - 2-3 times a week.
(attachments: meat grinder and cubes are not needed).
Considering -BOSH, Kenwood, Assistant.
You understand, in the morning you think that maybe Boshik will have enough,
and in the evening - take, so take.
I really need advice! More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=8100.0
I was tormented by the same question.
I chose Kenwood 010.
Ordered in Germany For the money 22000r with delivery ..
The Assistant wanted and now I think he is better, but he just made up his mind.
If you take in Germany, then hurry up. Soon they will accept the money limit and will not order.
Mine is already 5 days old.
I will give you links

maskarad50
I share my experience, bought a BOMANN, tried the dough for dumplings - great, for a biscuit in general, instantly for 5 and 12 eggs. The noise is like a meat grinder. I am pleased, for those who need a budget dough mixer I advise
Olga VB
maskarad50Thank you for unsubscribing!
And I remembered, thought, did I please with the advice?
Irina Ekb
Thanks for the quick answers.
Masinen
Irina Ekb, in general, Kenwood and the assistant are both good)
Boshik is simpler.
I have kenwood and I am very happy!
Irina Ekb
Does it cope with dumplings?
Masinen
Kenwood yes, I kneaded. I have a 560-08 model.
maskarad50
Olga, your advice was decisive when choosing) I am pleased with the car is good, easy to use
julia_bb
Girls, tell me how the kneader differs from the mixer with a bowl?
Olga VB
As a rule, a different principle of operation (type of mixing mechanism) and, sometimes, power.
Dr.NO
I would say so. Mixer is a generic name. The mixer is also a kneader, just a variation.
nincha
I’m tired of starting the bread dough by hand once every two days, I don’t want a bread maker. I seriously thought about a home dough mixer.
Found on the internet Kneader Marcato Pasta Mixer... Who tried it? It seems that the name implies that this device is intended for a steep pasta dough. So I think it is not destiny to develop a gluten framework when mixing. I'm not very experienced yet in baking bread.
Maybe Cro tried on this particular machine to prepare dough for bread? share your opinion. On the forum I found only a topic about buying, but they do not discuss the merits of baking bread (or I did not find it) ..
I think to buy, my hand is already itching. But I want to wait for more reviews, it's still not a cheap purchase ..
Masinen
You know, I watched a video about not m, well, I'll tell you it's cool !!
We are kneading here with hooks, and the Italians have come up with such a machine !!
I really liked it! And you can add attachments to it!
Cool!
nincha
And from what I read, I found the Planetary Mixer GASTRORAG QF-3470 - a budget option. I think which of these two, considering that I would like to get both dense unleavened dough and stretching airy ..
nincha
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You know, I watched a video about not m, well, I'll tell you it's cool !!
We are kneading here with hooks, and the Italians have come up with such a machine !!
I really liked it! And you can add attachments to it!
hmm .. so we must take)) I already dreamed about how I’ll make dumplings with dumplings and lasagne and bread - all this is in great demand from my spouse.
Masinen
Oh, no gastrorag! He works like Hilty the biggest one with which they hammer concrete and the whole house shakes !!
And this Markator impressed me !!
Well, the price is basically normal. Good mixers go from 15 thousand to 80 thousand.
nincha
Masinen, Thank you so much! helped me decide. Yes, I read the reviews about the gastrointestinal agent and it really makes a lot of noise, but this is absolutely not suitable for me. tomorrow I will contact the marker's suppliers
Masinen
Nina, then you tell us and make a report with the photos !!
Good luck !!
nincha
I wrote to them (macarto ru site). and in response, silence .. let's hope they call back.
Olga VB
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And this Markator impressed me !!
And I'm not very impressed: for pasta, probably very good, but for bread, for example, 700 grams of dough is not enough for me.
Not to mention the fact that it is probably not very suitable for sweet pastries: it doesn’t beat eggs, it won’t chop flour and butter, ...
Well, the plastic case and the stirrer are somehow annoying.
But for pasta-dumplings, perhaps, not bad, but it is not convenient that if for the "marketable" quantity you have to knead several portions, then each time measure all the products in a new way.
Masinen
Ol, he kneads for bread for 2 kilos like.
So it is made for pasta, yeast and shortbread dough.
Ol, he is kneading for pasta at 800 gr.
and so 10 kilos kneads.
I would buy myself one.
look
Marcato Pasta Mixer 220 V / 170 W
Manufacturer: Italy.

A dough mixer with a motor allows you to independently prepare up to 10 kg of dough per hour.
You can mix up to 800 g of pasta at a time.

The dough is kneaded very steep for noodles, dumplings, ravioli. Great for bread, pizza, rolls, donuts, pies, biscuits, prosphora, shortcrust pastry, crackers.

Characteristic:

Voltage from 110 / 220V.
Power: 170 W.
Productivity: 10 kg / h.
Weight: 7 kg

Olga VB
Mashun, 10 kg per hour and 10 kg at a time are not the same thing.
I wrote about it that
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for the "commercial" quantity, you will have to knead several portions, and each time measure all the products on a new one
, and then manually mix these portions.
And it's not clear about biscuits: how will he beat the eggs? I am thinking ...
Well, for small amounts of non-liquid types of dough, it is probably quite suitable. And such a mechanism should knead a tight dough.
Of course, it's interesting to hear the reviews.
Quote: Masinen
The dough is kneaded very steep for noodles, dumplings, ravioli. Great for bread, pizza, rolls, donuts, pies, biscuits, prosphora, shortcrust pastry, crackers.
I would buy myself one.
That is, your Kesha-560 does not solve a similar problem for you?
Masinen
I didn't even try to make such a dough as in the video, eggs and flour))
I think it will be hard for him. I made a slightly different dough on dumplings.
Maybe it will pull, but I'm afraid to check)
This Italian does not make biscuits, but yeast also makes shortbread.
nincha
What do you think I can better buy a planetary? Kitchen aid which. But does he knead a tough dough? Hands just hurt. I'm not really shown a lot with the dough, and my husband loves all kinds of dumplings, spaghetti, eats a lot of bread (and the pancake does not get fat).
And I love baking and confectionery very much, from the point of view of combining all in one planetary apparently the best way out (my husband is ready to buy it for me). But will he sweep out the tough dough? In general, I don’t already know which is better than marcato or kitschen
nincha
Marcato biscuits, of course, will not do, he just mixes! And with the biscuit you need to beat the eggs. But the electric nozzles that roll out onto the same device are very captivating.
Masinen
Nina, a very difficult question.
Knead it on dumplings, but honestly, I don’t know for pasta only made of flour and eggs.
nincha
just another question is that this marcato is not so easy to get in russia. and the kitchen eid will be delivered to the house tomorrow.
And you can't touch the macarto, and if something breaks where to run. But it's cheaper.
I'm in doubt
I called KitchenAid and they assured me that bread dough would be tested and even dumplings. There is also an electric nozzle for rolling. ahh!
Masinen
And look Ankarsrum assistant. He is very good. The price was slightly more expensive than Kitchen
nincha
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And look Ankarsrum assistant. He is very good. The price was slightly more expensive than Kitchen
does he knead tough dough better than kitchen?
I have already started to lean towards kitschen, after all it is multifunctional ..
Masinen
Nina, if your heart is in Kitchen, then take him))
Ankarsrum also has attachments, but there is no dough sheeter.
Lettera
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Ankarsrum also has attachments, but there is no dough sheeter.

there is Kneading machines

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I myself am trying to agree with the toad, but with the growth of the course, it still does not work



IMHO, it's cheaper to buy a separate dough sheeter, Italian

But he has no dicing
Masinen
Wow, how cool! What can I say, Ankarsrum is Ankarsrum)
Crochet
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Ankarsrum is ankarsrum)

PPKS !!!
milka80
So, unexpectedly, I got confused with the choice of the kneader. Objectives: dough for pasta and various breads.
I don’t look in the direction of Kichen and the like of the same price range, because ... so far)))) prices are too biting.
And therefore, it is necessary that it does not fall apart and hit the budget. My ceiling is 7, maximum 9 thousand, preferably less at all) All you need is a kneader, since I already have a meat grinder, etc., I can't salt them.

So what I am considering

1. BOMANN KM 370 1200W bowl volume 5 liters, dough up to 2kg. Stainless steel bowl. Average price 6200r
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2. Bomann KM 362 CB 1000W bowl volume 5 liters, dough up to 2 kg. Stainless steel bowl. Average price 6100r
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3. Klarstein (various models) Lucia, Carina, Bella, etc. Bowls 5 and 5.2 liters, power from 800 to 1200W depending on the model. You just have to drive from behind the hillock.
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All are alike, the difference is in color and a little in design. According to claim 2, I found reviews of our girls, in principle they are satisfied, they did not find any flaws. It can also be ordered in Germany on a well-known website, it will be even cheaper)))

In terms of colors, of course, I liked Klarstein, but so far I have found very few reviews, albeit normal.

In general, while I think. Maybe someone else will tell you what model?
milka80
Uff! I mastered this topic to the end ... It turned out to be not an easy matter)) Many questions have disappeared, the models have studied almost everything, who uses what ... Then I google about the above, I don't remember on which page, Krups KA
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I watched several videos




Does anyone know anything else about this unit?
Pakat
By the way, professionals prefer the rising bowl over the reclining motor ...
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Arkady _ru
Well, I took the Clatronic KM 3400 (aka BOMANN KM 370). It cost 5800r, and so 5910r.
Tatoshenka
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