Kneading machines

I am also fully and completely for the assistant, only this year (well, half a year) I have already exhausted my limit, so I decided to start with a gastro-aggressor, to know it for a year and change to a serious unit. You look and I'll have enough experience by that time to at least somehow correspond to such costs, and with a gastric, given its price, it will not be a pity to part

- 2 squirrels with a glass of sugar
- shortcrust pastry with cottage cheese
- charlotte for 3 eggs
- muffins for a glass of flour

I would be grateful if the owners of these devices answer, do they do these operations without any complaints, Ie manual revision due to the small volume or rigidity of the dough?

But I don't quite understand, does the assistant handle all small volumes?

A year has passed since I use the Planetary Mixer Gastrorag QF-3470.
The bread dough was not done, there was no need.
Basically I knead dumplings, all kinds of biscuits and mix creamy cocktails and liqueurs.
No complaints yet.

I now also have a gastrointestinal tract, about a month. I use it mainly for confectionery purposes, so far the yeast has only been kneaded once - per kilogram of flour, I did it. although it says that you can only work for five minutes, and then you have to turn it off, but I beat it for longer, for about 10 minutes, in five minutes it does not have time to beat 9 eggs as it should. it is a pity, more eggs will not climb into it)) the honey cake mixes perfectly, but it is very important, as it is written in the instructions, to first put the liquid ingredients, and then pour the flour on top, otherwise the flour will be unmixed below. in bosha mum4 I poured in any order, mixed everything, but unfortunately it gets there less. Gastrorag creams whips well too

And in my gastrorage so far I am only satisfied with the yeast dough. My whites are badly beaten. At the bottom, there is always a slurry, even when I beat 8 proteins, the whisk does not reach the bottom and does not beat. I am generally silent about smaller volumes!
And did anyone beat the minced meat in the gastrorage? Can you do it in it? He makes so much noise, poor man, and he breaks ...

For the sake of experiment, I must try to beat only whites, I just don't need so many proteins, I don't bake meringues in such quantities, but beat whole eggs onto a biscuit. but can you just beat them longer? my gastro whips eggs much longer than bosch, probably twice as long, but in the end it still whips as it should.

And in my gastrorage, I am only satisfied with the yeast dough. My whites are badly beaten. At the bottom, there is always a slurry, even when I beat 8 proteins, the whisk does not reach the bottom and does not beat.
I don't have such a problem.

For the sake of experiment, I must try to beat only whites, I just don't need so many proteins, I don't bake meringues in such quantities, but beat whole eggs onto a biscuit. but can you just beat them longer? my gastro whips eggs much longer than bosch, probably twice as long, but in the end it still whips as it should.

How long do you beat? I’m afraid to interrupt all the time ...
And so the top is strong, and when I try to turn it over to check, then everything flows down, since there is a slurry below, which the rim does not seem to reach.

On pages 24 and 25 of this thread, I posted a video of making a biscuit.
The whites are whipped in 6 minutes on the video, now I beat for 3-4 minutes for a biscuit. Yesterday I whipped 180 grams of butter for a charlotte, that is, on my device there are no problems with small volumes and speed.

How long do you beat? I’m afraid to interrupt all the time ...
And so the top is strong, and when I try to turn it over to check, then everything flows down, since there is a slurry below, which the rim does not seem to reach.

Well, 10 minutes is a minimum, rather longer, so I will do it again, if I do not forget, I will spot it. but I beat 9 eggs at once, a smaller amount will beat faster. beat longer, but in general, whisk the proteins at medium speed, and then increase the speed, beat them well, and then add sugar and beat well until the sugar grains disappear

On pages 24 and 25 of this thread, I posted a video of making a biscuit.
The whites are whipped in 6 minutes on the video, now I beat for 3-4 minutes for a biscuit. Yesterday I whipped 180 grams of butter for a charlotte, that is, on my device there are no problems with small volumes and speed.

I saw him, and it was this that became decisive in favor of buying a gastroorg.

Well, 10 minutes is a minimum, rather longer, so I will do it again, if I do not forget, I will spot it.

Well, today I beat it and spotted - 9 eggs with 450 grams of sugar for vanilla boiled water whipped perfectly in 10 minutes.

I'll bring in my five cents about Bork. The juicer works, but it requires as much attention as the old Soviet one, and clean there, and pick it off ... With a meat grinder, it's a wonderful story. Three returns in a row in two days to the store, at the fourth (another company) they simply sent us - they said that we wanted to ruin the store. Of course, we did not go to court. Breakdowns - from plastic parts (there are twisting elements in the meat grinder) to commonplace problems with the engine. In general, I was just incredibly lucky (I know that I needed to buy a meat grinder, not ruin a store, and I know very well what you can put in a meat grinder and what you can't, since old Brown served for 15 years). Bottom line - Moulinex is standing at home (the last one, which has not been changed), whose auger has broken on the meat (without veins and other particles that could break anything, at the base. Auger is metal) But the negative reaction to Bork is now stable.

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Take something already... And why should he break, then ??? Noisy, yes. In the topic we have already exhibited a video. And here's another:



shl. maybe mush has long given the go-ahead for Kitchen.

Mom dear! As if a cat is being cut or like a drill ... My teeth already hurt, and the dog hid under the sofa. We couldn't stand it for more than 15 seconds!
But I'm looking for some kind of dough-kneader thread, so that I can cope well with a small amount, and withaboutmore (approximately before 1.5 kg of finished dough), moreover, so that she is not afraid of either tight dough or sticky, and so that there is a slow speed for shortbread.
I also really liked the ideas with a recessed bowl - they are quieter, and there is a heating for proofing.
Is there such a miracle of technology in nature so that everything is in one bottle? Hotzza!

Good day. I'm interested in reviews of such a mixer Clatronic KM 3350

What can you say about such a unit, is it worth something or not? Thanks in advance for your answers.

I saw him, and it was this that became decisive in favor of buying a gastroorg.

Yes, I forgot to unsubscribe that I returned the entot gastrorag
In addition to the fact that the brain opened from the wild noise, you really need to beat a lot of eggs there, otherwise nothing happens.
And I returned it because at first they put a non-standard beater (bitter) on me, while it was changed a month and a half. Then the bitter came, I was just glad, and there the socket broke, where you need to insert the attachments. They just flew out of there
They took it back from me without objection, though they said that it was their first time, and that it was just bad luck between me and him that it did not work out - not destiny)))

I chose, chose and chose Kenwood KM 010. I adjusted the whisk so that you could beat a small amount of eggs, made the dough. I like it so far!

Yes, I forgot to unsubscribe that I returned the entot gastrorag
In addition to the fact that the brain opened from the wild noise, you really need to beat a lot of eggs there, otherwise nothing happens.
And I returned it because at first they put a non-standard beater (bitter) on me, while it was changed for a month and a half.Then the bitter came, I was just glad, and there the socket broke, where you need to insert the attachments. They just flew out of there
They took it back from me without objection, though they said that it was their first time, and that it was just bad luck between me and him, which they say did not work out - not destiny)))

Liz, listen, well super, that you got rid of him !! I still think I need to ask you))
I'm happy for you!!
I advise you to pay attention to Bosch mum) I really like it, but I have the simplest of all mum)

Good day. I'm interested in reviews of such a mixer Clatronic KM 3350

What can you say about such a unit, is it worth something or not? Thanks in advance for your answers.

I remember also looking at the clathronic, but they dissuaded me.
Look at the same, only the German company Profi Cook. It is more expensive and more credible. And clathronic, this is the budget))

I remember also looking at the clathronic, but they dissuaded me.
Look at the same, only the German company Profi Cook. It is more expensive and more credible. And clathronic, this is the budget))

Mash, what are you doing? This is one concern Klatronic-Boman-proficouk! The same eggs - side view! Even sites are linked by shared links.

And I thought that more expensive means better))
The fact that clathronic and bomann are the same, and also I know. But I didn't know about the pros, sorry))

Greetings! Dear kneaders) advise a kneader for dumplings, please!
Mersibochki

Thank you girls. While I looked closely and thought, my parents gave me Kenwood. I'm happy as an elephant

I came to Kroshin's soul. Or who else is the owner of the arkansrum here?

Krosh, do you knead dough for pies in Arkansrum with a hook with a scraper / without a scraper or a roller? I do not like either the one or the other yet. How I got pulled up by these kneaders, damn it !! I don't like Kitchen or Arkansrum yet so ah. For about 15 minutes I was again mixing dough for a kilo of flour in a Swede. I looked and looked at it all, I don't like the consistency again and transferred it to the HP Panasonic. For me - so far she is the best of all three kneading dough. I ruined so much money for them and I'm just swearing so far))). Kitchen still does everything for me, I still love him dearly, but the Swede pisses me off. Here are the Christmas tree sticks. Arkansrum constantly tears the dough, reeling. Because of this, I don't like the consistency. Again, I cannot understand this very consistency until it stops (in the sense of what it is worth adding - flour / water). But this is due to lack of habit, it is fixable. The dough is not kneaded so evenly, many pieces wobble for a long time in the same place, without dragging on the process.

Krosh, teach / tell me, huh? Maybe I'm missing somewhere in the small things or I'm impatient and give up early, so I just won't get the desired result. By the way, I use it very rarely from the moment of purchase. There are just a lot of things to do now. Maybe that's why I haven't got used to it yet.

I came to Kroshin's soul. Or who else is the owner of the arkansrum here?

Ludik - Lisssssa and Melchik and Gasha. (Ganya recently), we can. Ischo who aa well and Luda from Toronto. Torment them

Ludik - Lisssssa and Melchik and Gasha. (Ganya recently), we can. Ischo who aa well and Luda from Toronto. Torment them

All right. Khan to all of them. Especially Lyudmila from Toronto)))
I will torture terribly, mercilessly and finally ...

Greetings! Dear kneaders) advise a kneader for dumplings, please!
Mersibochki

I read the topic, and not only this one. I rush between the Swedish Assistant (Arkarstrum) And the Panasonic bread maker (according to reviews, does it knead the dough well?) First of all, I need a dough mixer ..... I plan to make a cool dough, dumplings-manti. What to choose, which is better, for less money Panasonic (+ bread maker) or for a large Swedish harvester ..... won't Panasonic die from frequent kneading of steep dough?

[trubotchist]

trubotchist He won't die, but he has a flour limit of 600g.

[trubotchist]

trubotchist He won't die, but he has a flour limit of 600g.

Maybe he won't knead the dumplings anymore (it's cool and the engine will strain), but I often knead for pies for 1 kg of flour.

In addition, no one bothers to knead in several stages. I do this on dumplings / pasties. We roll out and mold the first portion with my husband, and the second gets in the way at this time. It is not necessary to immediately add a kilo of flour into it.

I completely agree

knead in several stages. I do this on dumplings / pasties. We roll out and mold the first portion with my husband, and the second gets in the way at this time. It is not necessary to immediately add a kilo of flour into it.

This does not scare me, it can be done in several steps, if only the technique could cope ... Otherwise, I bought a Bosch MFQ 3560 without thinking ... once I kneaded the dough and I understand that I will load it a couple more times and it will die. ..

[trubotchist]

I read the topic, and not only this one. I rush between the Swedish Assistant (Arkarstrum) and the Panasonic bread maker (according to reviews, does it knead the dough well?) First of all, I need a dough mixer ..... I plan to make a cool dough, dumplings-manti. What to choose, which is better, for less money Panasonic (+ bread maker) or for a large Swedish harvester ..... won't Panasonic die from frequent kneading of steep dough?

trubotchist


and you are not confused by the difference in 700 ye, or even more between these 2 devices?

can I answer how I see this question.
They order arkarstrum well, sooooo (for good) crazy bakers who, like filoTelists (from filo dough) are chasing a rare brand. because baking bread for them, looking at the gluten threads, switching speeds, first at fast for 5 minutes, then at medium for 10 minutes, then at slow for 15 minutes, is a kind of hobby and a pleasant pastime.
For everyone else who just needs to eat, just an ordinary HP and not even Panasonic is enough, and 2 budget mixer for some 80 ye is enough. Well, yes, ischo and weight restrictions. And with 2 sacks you can dough 2 kg
This does not mean at all that baking in xn is a stupid craft without a moment of creativity, on the contrary, they themselves have 3 different-sized ones and here there is where fantasies roam, starting from monkey and lazy croissant on our forum and ending fried chicken in a bread maker.
Well, in general, this is how I see this question. may be wrong, but in general IMHO not very much. all the more so for such a complex harvester, as you wrote when choosing, you do not need to right away, but have a lot of skills, scarecrows ask
Good luck in choosing

Thank you The difference is embarrassing, but not 700 ... smaller, the Swede can be bought not in Russia, but of course it is embarrassing, I was just impressed by the video of its use, I need a device that can make cool dough for dumplings, I cook myself, I like dumplings, I don't knead the dough manually desire no time ...

For everyone else who just needs to eat, just an ordinary HP and not even Panasonic is enough, and 2 budget mixer for some 80 ye is enough. Well, yes, ischo and weight restrictions. And with 2 sacks you can dough 2 kg

but can I ask what kind of HP (brand, model)? I just still don't have HP ((((although for the dough there is a lot of everything - a kneader, a combine, a processor, a blender))), but I just want HP, preferably cheaper and capable of kneading a fairly large amount of dough - for 1 kg of flour

but can I ask what kind of HP (brand, model)? I just still do not have HP ((((although there is a lot of everything for the dough - a kneader, a combine, a processor, a blender))), but I really want HP, preferably cheaper and capable of kneading a fairly large amount of dough - for 1 kg of flour

I'm just looking for an analogue in Russia, I have a DELFA DB-104708 Bread Maker, In Russia it is exactly the same, but white, beautiful.

[trubotchist]

Thank you The difference is confusing, but not 700 ... less,

trubotchist
here on the forum there is also one person who loves and sculpts dumplings himself. It interferes with the budget HP, forgot its name, flew out of my head, he is also from St. Petersburg. This, apparently, you have a territorial love for dumplings, and for cutlets, I will kick him in the subject, let him answer you.

Gulya! parallell looking for a topic on budget stoves, where did the figley go
but I will say this - all 2 mixers are kneading well, just do not buy an expensive mulinex - it does not finish the roof and they somehow twist the screws, get out of the situation, in general, but why? when you can do without it. I'll find a topic, I'll throw it in a personal

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Gulya! parallell looking for a topic on budget stoves, where did the figley go
but I will say this - all 2 mixers are kneading well, just do not buy an expensive mulinex - it does not finish the roof and they somehow twist the screws, get out of the situation, in general, but why? when you can do without it. I'll find a topic, I'll throw it in a personal

Thank you: rose: I'll wait) otherwise I look at us they don't sell such HP (((

No, IRR, let's not in a personal, but here at least)))

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, Natus, right there is a topic - the choice of a kneader. I’m thinking, my letters about mixing will be inappropriate, apparently. or go to PM, or let's start a topic - how to knead in a Swede?

because I love the Swede dearly better than a food processor for dough, it’s impossible to come up with a vapshche dough harvester, I first swore with him too, but then we got used to it, and right now I kiss him in all places, as soon as I meet him in the kitchen, I’m not so sad, you’re not with him yet have grown together just right now everything will be. go open the topic and copy your letter there, and I'll answer you there, come on?

Akei ...

In:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=298256.new#new

I'm waiting for you!!

I read the entire thread and concluded that the best kneader at this time is Kenwood 10, 20, other devices have a number of disadvantages that are not acceptable to me, I will not list, this is my personal opinion. Regarding the bread maker for kneading dough for dumplings, my Panasonic SD256 turns 600 g of flour with great difficulty, but in the country, where the voltage jumps to 200 volts, it generally rises. I have been using the bread maker for a long time, but I use only one kneading mode for 20 minutes, in this mode I knead the dough for bread, bake bread in the oven. For myself, I decided to take Kenwood 10, a bread maker in the closet.

I read the entire thread and concluded that the best kneader at this time is Kenwood 10, 20, other devices have a number of disadvantages that are not acceptable to me, I will not list, this is my personal opinion. Regarding the bread maker for kneading dough for dumplings, my Panasonic SD256 turns 600 g of flour with great difficulty, but in the country, where the voltage jumps to 200 volts, it generally rises. I have been using the bread maker for a long time, but I use only one kneading mode for 20 minutes, in this mode I knead the dough for bread, bake bread in the oven. For myself, I decided to take Kenwood 10, a bread maker in the closet.

Doubtful conclusion.

www. kenwood. su
Why?

Doubtful conclusion.
Why?

Well, my opinion is also personal, I'm not responsible for everyone, but I don't really like planetary machines as dough mixers. Moreover, for a tough dough. In general, the Swede is in the first place the kneader and kneads a small amount, unlike planetary machines, which basically smear them or drag them in a piece. Ankarsrum is a product of the year in its class many times. The last time in 2008, it seems, I don't remember exactly. And if you are interested in dough first of all, it would be logical to look at it.

Something like that in my opinion. if you were led to the fact that I was unhappy with Kitchen and Ankarsrum, then in vain. I am almost always unhappy with everything, I am very critical of the technique and it is very rare that I say - finally super! In addition, she has practically never used the Swede to say a complete and final opinion.)))

Well, my opinion is also personal, I'm not responsible for everyone, but I don't really like planetary machines as dough mixers. Moreover, for a tough dough. In general, the Swede is in the first place the kneader and kneads a small amount, unlike planetary machines, which basically smear them or drag them in a piece. Ankarsrum is a product of the year in its class many times. The last time in 2008, it seems, I don't remember exactly. And if you are interested in dough first of all, it would be logical to look at it.

Something like that in my opinion.if you were led to the fact that I was unhappy with Kitchen and Ankarsrum, then in vain. I am almost always unhappy with everything, I am very critical of the technique and it is very rare that I say - finally super! In addition, she has practically never used the Swede to say a complete and final opinion.)))

Well, I proceeded purely from the fact that most of the bakers on the forum still prefer Kenwood, and they do not complain about kneading, another thing is that additional bells and whistles like a meat grinder that work poorly and have complaints about them, but I don't need them. In general, I prefer everything in one. Maybe I'll buy a Swede, but Kenwood is somehow closer.

Do not forget that Kenwood is still more accessible. Kitchen and Ankarsrum are often rejected precisely because of the very high price. If it were not for this fact, it may very well be that the owners of the last two would be here in the absolute majority))).

Girls, now Kitchen in Stockman goes for 26 thousand.
In Moscow Stockmans)

Ordered after a long search KitchenAid Gloss Cinnamon Artisan 5-Quart Stand Mixer KSM150PSGC Works Worldwide
The total amount with delivery is 15t. rub ($ 399.95 + $ 59.95 shipping) the kit includes a transformer with a euro adapter.
The declared power is 325 watts, which corresponds to approximately 1600 watts indicated on many brands (If we measure the impulse power of the KitchenAid mixer - we get a value of 1600 Watt.
thus the KitchenAid mixer power of 300 Watt is equal to the advertising value of 1600 Watt)

[Lecs]

The total amount with delivery is 15t. rub

For such a sum, I would probably take it too !!! Hai would be !!!

Lecs, congratulations on your new assistant !!!

Yes, thanks, you just have to wait, but without a guarantee, rice is also big.