Kneading machines

I have a feeling that all dough mixers, combines of this type are very noisy, not noisy at all, I have never used it.
Everyone growls that meat grinder if not louder

I’m not looking for the quiet one. It is understandable, equipment of this class cannot work in a whisper. I just looked through the videos again. Where the whites are whipped onto the biscuit, the noise is loud, but homogeneous, and where the dough is steep - well, I can't listen to it. I would like to buy an assistant and then work with him, and not run away from home until he turns off.
Immediately I apologize, in no case I want to offend the owners of the Gastrorag QF 3470. Let your machine please with its work and help you in the kitchen. It's all about my perception of sound.

I liked this saved in bookmarks, periodically look in, admire and visualize
I haven't met any reviews either, but there are questions. Its power is 1000 W (compared to 600

Good day. Once I wanted to buy to buy one, and found a forum that tells about the repair of Clatronic equipment.
He said that the model is bad, not maintainable.

"As for the Clatronic KM 3323 kneader, it has long been discontinued, and when it was, its purchase price was about $ 60. Which speaks of its quality.
I do not recommend buying meat grinders, food processors, deep fryers and blenders from this manufacturer, because the iron shafts are pressed into thin gears that either turn or burst the gears. "

As for Bosch. I only got it at a big discount (showcase sample).
I have a model 4406. What can I say, the yeast dough kneads, but very weakly. The motor gets very hot, creaks and even the base bursts.
Better for batter, but protein alone knocks down terribly.
2-4 squirrels knock better
I am sure that no constructive change was achieved on Bosch mum5

My personal opinion is that the best combination for kneading is a bread machine (for yeast dough) and a stationary mixer (for proteins, biscuits).
Only the mixer should be a powerful 450W for example Bosch MFQ 3560,
By the way, a review about him:
"It really does not work noisily, which is important when the baby sleeps at home. It mixes well, does not overheat, there are no strangers smells during work."
Only here, minus the maximum amount of kneading 500 grams of products. His bowl is small, only 1 liter.
If this is enough for you, take it without hesitation.

By the way, the mixer has minimal noise.

mixer at work, knead the dough for Ciabatta.
The video says it is a combine, but clearly shows that it is a Bosch stationary mixer

[VERDICT: BOSCH MUM4406 (similarly will be in BOSCH MUM5) are suitable for churning 3-6 proteins (for cakes) and light dough in large quantities, there is but average noiseAnd an average amount of yeast dough (for 500 grams of flour), only the motor will be very hot.]

here is a review about Mixer Bosch MFQ 3560
It really does not work noisily, which is important when the baby sleeps at home. It mixes well, does not overheat, there are no foreign odors during operation.

LLika_7, here's another minus BOSCH MUM4406 (the same will be in BOSCH MUM5, since the design is the same).
This is kneading a small amount of bread in BOSCH MUM4406, sprinkled the dough on the walls and do what you want, eh, I remembered, because now I was kneading sour cream dough for frying in a pan, the story is the same as in the video, only experience suggested that the dough is ready
a bread maker with the same amount rolls a good bun.

VERDICT: BOSCH MUM4406 (similarly will be in BOSCH MUM5) are suitable for churning 3-6 proteins (for cakes) and light dough in large quantities, there is but average noise
And an average amount of yeast dough (for 500 grams of flour), only the motor will be very hot.

And one more question arises when buying a BOSCH MUM4406, BOSCH MUM5 why do you need a combine with exactly the same attachments (dough mixing and meat grinder) as in Bosch MCM 5529 (a combine that cuts into cubes).
Well, this is if you want more further, by the way, a cool thing

here is a review about Mixer Bosch MFQ 3560

I bought a hand mixer before the new year, such https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8252.0... I wrote a couple of posts below about him.
And kneaders are already another device, I would like to see such a solid one. Actually, I have nowhere to put it in a permanent place, and it is not very interesting to carry around with such a thing, so I am not in a hurry to buy, but for now I look closely, listen, choose

Probably kenwoods are good, but there is a priceaaaa. Or maybe it is she who determines the quality of the device.

Tell me, are there programmable kneading machines? For example dough for dumplings, for pizza, yeast dough ???

Tell me, are there programmable kneading machines? For example dough for dumplings, for pizza, yeast dough ???

As far as I know, no. Maybe if only for production and then as part of the line.

Hello! Please tell me how much Gastrorag QF 3470 costs, and how to get it in Kiev? There was an impression that this wonderful dough mixer can be bought only in Russia. In Kiev, you can buy dough mixers from Clatronic, but there are practically no reviews for them, again on the site it is written that the manufacturer is Germany, and in a few reviews it is China. Has anyone used or, m. B. Heard something about Clatronic combines?

5000-6000 thousand rubles. I bought in a METRO store.

I still bought a Gastrorag QF 3470. So far, I'm happy. in spite of all its prohibitions and restrictions, even kneads dumplings. The maximum was kneaded for 500 ml. water, i.e. about 1500 kg. dumplings dough. True, I felt sorry for him. 40-50 grams of flour was mixed by hand. I was afraid for him. Sand and yeast kneads in general with a bang!

Ok, what are the best mixers?

August, your question cannot be answered unequivocally. Much depends on your financial capabilities. The Kenwoods are all highly praised, but the price .....

Six months ago I was also tormented by this issue. As a result, I took Profiquk. What can I say after six months of use - powerful, loud. Kneads the dough for bread perfectly, including rye, dumplings, etc. Well kneads the batter for ciabatta or say Paposhnik. A nice bonus is a good blender for cocktails, etc.

Cons - does not like small volumes - beats 4 eggs badly. But 8 is perfect. I have not used the meat grinder anymore, so I will not say anything about it.

In general, it justified its price. I bake bread only in the oven. I use the kneader at least once every two days.

I'm looking at the Americans. Who used it?

Firstly, I did not use
Secondly, only KSM 5 is sold in Russia.
Thirdly, the power is 350-500 W. - that is, the cool can not be stupid. In the video, kneads soft (for cookies - which will be shown at the end) and whips.
Fourth, only the volume of the bowl pleases. There are models with a bowl volume of 6.9 liters.
And fifthly, the price - 34000 - 44000 is far from happy.

For comparison, Gastrorag - 650 W, bowl 4.5 liters, also 2 "stirrers" and a whisk, 6 speeds and a pulsation mode, and the price is 5000-6000 rubles.

My conclusion, given such a huge difference in price and an insignificant difference in characteristics, is not worth taking a CCM. Better buy Gastrorag.

why is 500 watts a small power? How much does it take to knead the dough on dumplings?

Firstly, I did not use
Secondly, only KSM 5 is sold in Russia.
Thirdly, the power is 350-500 W. - that is, the cool can not be stupid. In the video, kneads soft (for cookies - which will be shown at the end) and whips.
Fourth, only the volume of the bowl pleases. There are models with a bowl volume of 6.9 liters.
And fifthly, the price - 34000 - 44000 is far from happy.

For comparison, Gastrorag - 650 W, bowl 4.5 liters, also 2 "stirrers" and a whisk, 6 speeds and a pulsation mode, and the price is 5000-6000 rubles.

My conclusion, given such a huge difference in price and an insignificant difference in characteristics, is not worth taking a CCM. Better buy Gastrorag.

I have Kitchen for 3-4 years. Kneads tough dough without problems.The indicated power of the kitchen is the power that it can maintain constantly (for example, for 10 minutes), and not the impulse, which is indicated on most combines, that is, which they can deliver peak. Kitchen is considered a semi-professional technique suitable for use in bars / cafes. This is a dope. Heavy and all iron))). There are models with 4.8 l and 6.9 l bowls. There are different models in bulk in Russia. On the official website in Russia from 31 thousand. Expensive. All additional attachments (there are a lot of them, this is not a mixer, but a harvester in its essence) is very expensive.

I'm looking at the Americans. Who used it?

I have KitchenAid Profi600 ... finished dough yield = almost 2 kg ...

Yes, it's not about the price ... I'm tired of buying budget equipment from Bosch, Siemens, Kenwood, and then giving it to parents, neighbors, etc.
The main thing is that the combine works and pleases .. I think it's easier for me to bring it from the states than to overpay 2-3 times here

Yes, it's not about the price ... I'm tired of buying budget equipment from Bosch, Siemens, Kenwood, and then giving it to parents, neighbors, etc.
The main thing is that the combine works and pleases .. I think it's easier for me to bring it from the states than to overpay 2-3 times here

Please note in advance that only the mixer weighs 11kg (with a 4.8L bowl). And does not mix well small volumes. He smears them.

[Natasha]

And does not mix well small volumes. He smears them.

Natasha, and small volumes - what are they ?? How many grams of flour do you need to knead the minimum yeast dough?

Please note in advance that only the mixer weighs 11kg (with a 4.8L bowl). And does not mix well small volumes. He smears them.

This is certainly a minus.
I understand that there is little choice among kneaders?

I have KitchenAid Profi600 ... finished dough yield = almost 2 kg ...

Tell me, does it mix small volumes?

I understand that there is little choice among kneaders?

We can say - practically none.

To be honest, I don't want to buy a combine for the sake of a kneader. I would gladly buy just a kneader without any attachments and bells and whistles

To be honest, I don't want to buy a combine for the sake of a kneader. I would gladly buy just a kneader without any attachments and bells and whistles

A bit wrong. Kitchen is originally a planetary mixer. It comes with three mixing attachments (one of them is a dough hook). And that's all. Everything else CAN be bought, that is, make this car, for which a lot of money has been paid - more widely used.

Small volumes mix badly. I do not knead the dough for less than 500 g of flour.

Good afternoon, has anyone ever used this Moulinex QA 401 GB7 Food processor
It is so beautiful red and has a power of 900 watts, a bowl of 4 liters and there are additional attachments, but I don't need them, but I'm more interested in how it works when kneading dough?

Good afternoon everyone. The other day we became the happy owners of the Gastrorag 3470 dough mixer, one question confuses - the instructions say that you cannot knead hard dough on it (where the ratio of water and flour is less than 3/4). How shoud I understand this? They can only beat the whites and knead the dough for pancakes and that's it? I wanted to make the work of the bread maker easier, but here is such a bummer ... Explain to the teapot, please. The husband scoffs, says the instructions should have been read carefully in the store

A steep dough is a dough on dumplings, noodles, etc. I have the impression that there are no household appliances that would 100% cope with such a dough.
Bummer of course. The husband could not have been told this information.

Hello hostesses! Does anyone have an Assistent Original Mixer - Accessories like this?

the owners will come

[Colorist]

Colorist , welcome to the forum! We have them. Now this machine is called Ankarsrum ® Original. It is positioned as a professional kneader.

A steep dough is a dough made with dumplings, noodles, etc. I have the opinion that there are no household appliances that would be 100% able to cope with such a test.

My bread maker easily kneads excellent dough for dumplings. A glass of water, salt, a couple of glasses of flour - easy. When we make dumplings, I knead one portion, while I roll it out, the next one gets in the way. The dough is good.

[gypsies]

My bread maker easily kneads excellent dough for dumplings.

I, too, and oddly enough budgetary, however, with 2 mixers. Mixes 1300 doughs in one go.

shl. and at gypsies also morphs her, inexpensive beast.

I used to have an Orion 24 bread machine, so it died after the dumplings dough. Yes, and kneaded such a dough with obvious tension. I didn’t even knead, and so, the dough dangled slightly over the bucket.
Now, having a sad experience, I am already afraid to make such a dough in the current bread machine.

[Flaksia]

Flaksia Don't worry Panasonic does a good job as a kneader. The engine can handle it well. And when the dough is kneaded, it also works like a dough mixer partly

[Xun]

Now this machine is called Ankarsrum ® Original. It is positioned as a professional kneader.

Xun, tell me, is it hefty in circulation?

Girls and boys, and whoever has Kitchen Aid ?! Who will Mona torture with questions about him?

I can't resist :-) :-) :-)
And how cool Kenwood interferes with the dumplings !!!
I have KM020.
I finally understood what it really should be :-) :-) :-)
And with absolutely no tension ...

And Natasha Chuchelka has Kitchen Aid :-)

[Xun]

Xun, tell me, is it hefty in circulation?

Innul, in terms of control - 2 knobs: time and speed. And so, of course, you need to adapt, as with any serious device. The kneading in it differs from the one I am used to personally, because I used to knead with knives in Thermomix.

[Xun]

And so, of course, you need to adapt, as with any serious device.

Somehow I thought so ...

Xun, big to you ... human ...

Well, fffse, I got it.

Tus, and he (Kitchen) has been with you for a long time ?!

And how is he in circulation? Che, too, right here atwhat an adult?

I've had kitchen for years ... four, at least. And what is it?

The machine is adult and serious. A piece of iron))) weighs 11 kg. A small amount of test is poorly perceived. Does not love. I have a lot of things for him and kneading dough is far from his first duty. He rolls out pasta for me, rubs carrots and onions, grinds grain, makes pasta.

[L]

LI , instead of Schaub to dissolve me for money, they both dissuade me straightb ...

if they were selling them, then yes ... and so they save your family budget, check out the politics

and kitschen is more expensive, Krosh, weighs as much as you do, you will wave carry him blow dust off it

) Weighs 11 kg.

[e]

if they were selling them, then yes ... and so they save your family budget, check out the politics

Eva how !!! And I already thought that in esome kinda trick ...

Guys, who Gastrorag, who-thread can tell lope decibel what is the noise level ethat machine, well, I can't find this information anywhere ...

What I think, we can really be cheap Gastrorag take? If at least the toad does not strangle ...

Krosh, I have this machine, it works like a tractor (in terms of noise), but everything is fine.

[and]

works like a tractor (noise level)

This is me and the pooandtb ... that's why I was interested in decibels, well, compare with the rest ...

Are they (kneaders) all that noisy?

Thanks for your responsiveness Tanyush !!!

Are they (kneaders) all that noisy?

I have a Bosch MUM 8400 combine. Kneads normally and I won't say it's loud ...

Dear dough mixer experts! Help pzhl. I am not in the subject and already tortured to enter it. I need to choose a dough mixer for my father as a gift - he feeds 3 families with pies and it became hard for him to knead.I am inclined towards a purely dough mixer because if you give him a combine, he will begin to wry his nose, why is it all in addition nada. Name pzhl options for 6-7 thousand rubles. I will be extremely grateful for your advice

[olgalingo]

Name pzhl options for 6-7 thousand rubles.

olgalingo , welcome to the forum! Where are you from? If from Russia - Gastrorag.

Take something already... And why should it break, then ??? Noisy, yes. In the subject we have already exhibited a video. And here's another:



shl. maybe mush has long given the go-ahead for Kitchen.

Kitchen is much quieter. I specifically asked to turn it on in the store to listen to.
Right now I would take it, although I like my K-mix, but it roars like a tractor.

[a]

I'm sorry for the stocka denex ...

Well, they won't be cheaper Duc. If only how Rita, Says, get on sale .. Or look for a boo on Avito.

Can I put in my "five cents". I have Gastrorar (I don't use it, that's why I wrote the name like that), I bought it two years ago. Several times I kneaded the dough for them, then I didn't use it for 2-3 months, and again I needed it. The speed switch does not work, I start mixing at 1st speed, so that it is not so dusty. and I started spinning like a second. The husband found the reason, some microcircuit burned out, but replacing it is a problem: they are not marked.

Krosh in Stockman is usually at the end of January, at the beginning of February there are crazy days with good discounts, last year in October Kitchen at a discount cost 22,900 rubles, and without a discount, something about 30 tons.