Kneading machines

[Oksana]

Although the bowls are large, he takes half a kilo of flour for bread calmly, and whips at least 5 proteins well. I don’t know how it is now, but it used to cost less than Kitchen and Kenwood. I have more than a year. In general, it justifies its money.



Oksana, yes, I agree, 30 proteins is a wingspan, then what a confectionery shop! And even if there is a pause of 2-3 minutes, I think it's not critical.

[Marina]

Marina, I do not argue, everything is possible. But sometimes you need a different consistency.
I was surprised by the information = 5 minutes maximum

I want to share my observations with you. Household appliances have now begun to work little and repairs are expensive

[Alla]

Alla, here is your mixer for a girl and will suit the volume! in the same place for 20 proteins! And if this is often = 20 proteins, then it must be borne in mind that a machine operating at maximum all the time may wear out faster. But I don't think there is such a volume every day - even every other day! If so, then this is a completely different story-technique!

my German Bosch dishwasher broke down, having worked not to say that intensively for 5 years



maybe not worth buying expensive devices

[Oksana]

Oksana, Yes, I agree. This is another - professional equipment, and there are such prices

I completely agree with Alla. With such requests, you need professional equipment, but you also need several times more money. If the budget is limited, then it is necessary to select the equipment that meets the requirements as much as possible, but within the allotted budget. Otherwise, nothing.

Hello girls, tell me which planetary mixer or together with a meat grinder to choose, is needed for marshmallows, meringue, biscuits, so that 20 proteins are whipped and 2 liters of animal cream, so that the continuous working time is large, so that you can whip a large amount, powerful, not expensive and enough for a long time, I read a mess in my head

Still, the source had 20 proteins, 2 liters of cream and super power.

While there is no such equipment in the area of ​​10t. R..

While there is no such equipment in the area of ​​10t. R..

I would say no, and never will. Quality, power and reliability are now not welcomed by manufacturers.

And now, in general, everything is going to ensure that they do not cook at home, but use the services of various institutions (fast food).

[Tanya dance]

And I would refrain ... Do you remember history Tanya dance? After a year of good loads, her Kenwood broke down. I think she fixed it, but ... It was simple ... But Tanya, as I understand it, had a serious load on the car ...

Yes. agree. here you need at least a semi-professional car. let it be just a mixer without any attachments. but with a reliable motor (and Kenwood's gears are all plastic). Maybe you can buy second-hand, second-hand. something from a confectionery factory, it happens.

google says. what are the leaders
Cuisinart SM-55 5 1/2-Quart 12-Speed. ...
KitchenAid Professional 600 Series 6-Quart. ...
Hobart N50-60 5-Quart Commercial Countertop Mixer,
And here is a very good review, which explains why it is not the power of the motor in watts that is important, but from what and how it is made (translated into Russian using Google)
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but 22-23 minutes is not 5, you must agree.

I agree, of course. And 15-20 is also far from 5. Not every unit will survive. Especially if you beat a lot and often.

[Pimander]

Pimander, They put plastic everywhere, not for the sake of economy, iron is cheap, but so that the factories do not stand idle

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, not without it, I agree. If we take gastrorags, then there is only one plastic gear - for transferring rotation from the engine to the planetary mechanism.It was made with a good purpose - if there is too much force on the rim, only the gear will burn out, and the planetary gear and the engine will not burn out. Everything would be fine, but only replacing this gear is more expensive than the unit itself.

[Pimander]

PimanderThis can be traced everywhere, I bought myself a sewing machine Janome, it was declared 12 kg, it turned out to be 9 kg, many parts were replaced with plastic, although they are not suitable for any driving mechanisms Why do a thing for 50 years, unprofitable for factories I looked at new dishwashers, inside the case instead of The stainless steel is half plastic, the gears are also plastic in the bosch, and so on.



When he dies, I will take kitschen or kenwood for sure

30 minutes

Thank you all for your advice!
Oh, it turns out that for protein creams I need what kind of mixer with a continuous working time of 20-30 minutes and a bowl of 7-10 liters? Do these even exist from the planetary?
And I thought everything was metallic in gastro-containers (I thought that in expensive mixers this is the case, then it makes no sense to buy an expensive one if it burns as well as a cheap one (?

I have a Bosch MFQ 36460 in May, he will be 5 years old, recently broke down for marshmallows, could not stand it, just now I read the instructions, whip the cream up to 500 for up to 2 minutes, whip up the whites up to 5 pieces for up to 6 minutes, and I whipped up a biscuit or protein cream 10 proteins for 20 minutes, although the gears that turn the bowl there are plastic, they did not break, the master said that they were a little worn out, he began to work louder, I still think that the same 10 proteins in the planetary volume will come out more on a bowl of 6-7 liters

I make custom-made cakes at home, when the wedding is multi-tiered, it is not convenient to make the cream a hundred times, I would like to save my time in the mixer more to make at once for the whole cake)

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, yes, plastic is shoved everywhere. This reduces the cost of production and shortens the service life.
I am still a fan of Gastrorag. If his plastic gear flies, I will buy another gastroug.

but they say it heats up quickly, I Bosch can twist it quietly for 20 minutes

Well, how to look, Kitchen has a motor in the head, so heating is immediately felt (it works with cream / dough and more than 30 minutes normally) in other cars, the motor is at the bottom, so the heating is not so noticeable. I mean that when working, you switch the speed, stop / fill up by raising your head, you can feel its heating tactilely, especially if you work with a thick dough, then I sometimes hold mine so that my head does not jump too much, it’s impossible not to feel even the slightest heating , and if the motor is in the body, then you will not check / paw it every time

[mmv]

mmv, exists. But the price is from 22,000 rubles. For example CONVITO HLB-7

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, I have no vibration at all, it is heavy and on suction cups, the bowl is uncomfortable, this pin is in the middle, the only gripe, but the dough kneads well, nothing climbs up and there are no K-shaped corollas



there is also a boman and quite powerful among the Germans, though

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, not without it, I agree. If we take gastrorags, then there is only one plastic gear - for transferring rotation from the engine to the planetary mechanism. It was made with a good purpose - if there is too much force on the rim, only the gear will burn out, and the planetary gear and the engine will not burn out. Everything would be fine, but only replacing this gear is more expensive than the unit itself.

thanks, how much does the replacement cost?

mmv, exists. But the price is from 22,000 rubles. For example CONVITO HLB-7

is everything metallic in it? And if expensive repairs break down?

thanks, how much does the replacement cost?

When the device cost 6,000 rubles, the replacement of the gear was 12,000 rubles.

is everything metallic in it? And if expensive repairs break down?

I don't know about the cost of repairs. As for the metal - judging by its weight of 13 kg, I think the main part is metal, although the case inserts and the gear for transferring rotation to the planetary mechanism are plastic.

I wouldn't be chasing metal. You don't know what kind of metal is used there. And metals are very, very different. By the way, my mother once invited the master to set up a sewing machine, she had a Seagull. So the master was very surprised when he found a groove in one metal plate, which was formed from friction on it with a thread. So it is worth choosing what is more affordable, but also satisfies for those. parameters. Any technique, even the most expensive, can break down.

I have no vibration at all, it is heavy and on suction cups, the bowl is uncomfortable, this pin is in the middle

here comes the reasoning about planetary mixer, and you have another dough mixer (it can be compared with a dough mixer with suction cups, First, for example, but not the ones we are talking about now). You can compare models of the same category (according to the principle of operation) from different manufacturers (speed, power, kneading, whipping, endurance, etc.)

Any technique, even the most expensive, can break down.

gold words

[Anchic]

Anchic, all professional and semi-professional equipment is metal. In industries, even small ones, you will not find plastic cases, moving parts, and even more so parts of the corollas.
But the metal in the consumer goods segment is really not very good. It is better not to throw yourself on metal here.
You really need to afford to choose. But the miser, as we know, pays twice.

What kind of mixer do you need with a continuous working time of 20-30 minutes and a bowl of 7-10 liters? Do these even exist from planetary?

Kenwood has 72 hours of continuous work. It is not possible to check this. Even when I use it for several hours, there are still stops between processes.

[mmv]

I still think that the same 10 proteins in the planetary volume will come out more in a 6-7l bowl

mmv, we are all different and we have different concepts of "whipped proteins". If you whipped 10 proteins in a 3 liter bowl, then maybe you don't need to look for anything else, but buy the same mixer, let them plow together with the repaired one, and fit into the budget, and in 5 years it will be seen, or you will earn a lot of money, or fashion cakes will come out. I wish you success!

I still think that the same 10 proteins in the planetary volume will come out more in a 6-7l bowl

The volume of proteins, or whatever, does not depend on the type of mixer, but depends on the speed of whipping and the freshness of the product!

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, Well, yes, a dough mixer, but I do it all the same as you do with your planetary ones, this time, its power is 1200w, there will be a smaller frisht, this is a little parody of Bosch I do them what you can't with a planetary one, you can beat the proteins with a mixer , but I also want planetary, but mine will not understand me



I saw on YouTube girls make simple mixers and creams and cakes, and simple little boschiks and everything that is at hand and who has as much budget as possible

I do to them what you cannot planetary

Intrigued. Why can't this be made planetary?

pour one and a half liters of water and knead the bread, try on planetary, although I repeat that each has its own pros and cons I now think both planetary is good and mine is good



To be honest, I use another bosh msm more, on it I make dough on dumplings and crush everything and shred

pour one and a half liters of water and knead the bread

So it depends on the volume of the bowl, and not on the type of machine.
I kneaded a full bowl (4.5 l) on my planetaron - this is about 3 kg of dough. It just doesn't fit anymore. If there was a gastroragum with a bowl of 6 liters, then the dough could be kneaded more.

[lyuba-s]

pour one and a half liters of water and knead bread, try on a planetary,

lyuba-s, for bread dough (humidity 62%) 1.5 liters of water require 3kg 720g flour, dough weight - 5kg 220g. This amount of dough is excellent and only Ankarsrum can handle it without harm.
My Kenwood with a bowl of 6.7 liters will knead according to the instructions: steep yeast - 2.4 kg; high moisture yeast dough - 5 kg.
For 5 kg of dough, you need to have an oven, you can't bake in the oven in one sitting, on the one hand, on the other - there are about two dozen eaters.
Here we are considering units for the home, for the family.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, Nataliya, well, after all, Kenwood will not be able to knead so much The question is why they did not put so much test

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-sSpeaking of planetary machines, the largest planetary machine on which I have ever kneaded yeast dough had a bowl of 80 liters. It was mixed with a bang.

[Anchic]

Peter Push, Natalia, well, after all, Kenwood will not be able to knead so much The question - why did they not put so much dough

Anchic, I did not approve, I gave only instructions, I don't need so much test, there was no case to check. If you could not knead what was stated in the instructions on your Kenwood, say so.

I bake 4 kilogram buns once a week from savings My oven fits in the hansu, if there is dough left, then I bake pies Turns calmly, why should I cheat,



I put 3 forms of bricks and 1 round, I don't want to mess around with the dough often, but my husband eats a lot of bread, got it already! You will be tortured to buy, we have 50r of bread and weighs 400g



this Bosch will knead as much as it will fit into it

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, your bread is definitely cheaper and tastier. Therefore, it is eaten faster.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya, it was a joke. See, it turns out that people have a need for such quantities. And Pimander says that there are planetary mixers for such quantities. And I don't need that much. And in my Bosh (which is a big Mum), at most, I kneaded dough from 1 kg of flour onto cakes. And so - 600 g of flour for bread. This bread will be enough for us for two or three days. And then fresh. I love baking fresh bread. And I like to eat fresh.

I don’t eat bread at all, not fresh and not old and not at all, that’s what I got.

[Anchic]

You see, it turns out that people have a need for such quantities.

Anchic, for all sorts of requests and aggregates are. I also knead cakes with 1 kg of flour, there is about 2.5 kg of dough, just bake at one time. It takes me 1.6 kg of dough for Darnitskiy for two L7 bricks, and even less for wheat. I just can't imagine a mixer with a bowl of 80 liters, my kitchen is small, probably 11 m², this is for bakeries, and no longer mini, and corresponding ovens, for business, but for our souls.

I'll bake for a week, and let him gnaw.In summer, I don't bake at all, there is no time

lyuba-s, mine rebel if I don't bake for a while, feed the leaven and that's it.

Comrades, maybe who needs it?
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I just can't imagine a mixer with a bowl of 80 liters, my kitchen is small, probably 11 m2, this is for bakeries, and no longer mini, and the corresponding ovens, for business

Natural for bakeries. Floor standing, with a trolley, made in the USSR. It's just that it was said here that planetary ones will not cope with a large batch, so I gave an example.

For the sake of interest, what a 60L mixer looks like

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[Marpl]

Marpl, lie. It is very similar to the Soviet-made MV-40 (40 liter bowl). But 60 liters is clearly not there.

[LydiaVera]

Comrades, maybe who needs it?

LydiaVera, We have already written about this unit in the thread. Owner (if I am not mistaken, Aunt Cake) like the mixer. Thank you!

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, but not at all! Interestingly, the girl who was looking for a car, decided?

[LydiaVera]

Interestingly, the girl who was looking for a car, decided?

LydiaVera, I think that mmv already decided and bought, just all in euphoria from the purchase so desired, I forgot to tell us. We can only wish her success!

People, did anyone see the Booman 6009 live? It is now on ozone 6.5 thousand with a tail, but I have never seen that in the description of the photo the stirrers are not given ... they are nowhere to be found! Although the general appearance is very cute, such a fat man ...