Svetlana777
Quote: Vlad_Ru
preferably a lot so that you don't jump on the table
I have Kitchen, it's heavy.
and about First FA-5259-2, I know that the principle is different, that's why I joined the opinion - if the mixer, then it is better, I studied Boshevsky of the same plan
Anchic
So First FA-5259-2 is a planetary mixer. What is its fundamental difference from others?
vatruska
Vlad_Ru, wow, what an interesting thing ... as I understand it - a flight of Chinese imagination on the topic of ankasrum ...




Anchic, take a look at the ankasrum (like you wrote it right, huh?), otherwise you can't explain. Well, or otherwise - kneading proceeds according to the principle of a bread machine, it would seem - a tiny stirrer, but how it kneads!
Anchic
vatruska, Svetlana, Thank you. I watched a short video review, so this stirrer was not shown. And the hole under it was not very visible. Although, when I looked closely, I saw now
Vlad_Ru
Quote: Anchic
So First FA-5259-2 is a planetary mixer.
Not quite as I correctly pointed out vatruska, this is something like Ankarsrum
Svetlana777
Quote: Anchic
First FA-5259-2
it is not planetary, this is just a kneader, but this First FA-5259 planetary, most likely they are completely different
Peter Push
Quote: imanshi
(I would like to knead the dough for bread and gingerbread, you can dumplings, but not necessarily, and whip the squirrels. The budget is 5-6 thousand. Are there owners of such inexpensive equipment?)
imanshi , consider this Clathronic on KU 🔗, I only had such a smaller capacity (1000), I will not say anything bad about it, I worked for about three years on it - dough for bread (wheat, wheat-whole-grain, rye-wheat) I mixed about 1.3 kg without tension (we don’t buy bread, a family of 4 people bake often), and kneaded myastoedovsky cake (the first time for 1 kg of flour, this is too much for mine, then I counted it for 3/4 of the recipe) for 20 minutes. without a break at 2 speeds, the biscuit knocked down better than the manual Boshevsky.
Quote: Vlad_Ru
see First FA-5259-2, Silver dough mixer
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And this option is from Vlad_Ru I like it, although I have not seen any reviews.
Quote: Sens
buy Boman on Compuniverse. With delivery 6t. R.
Consider this option too.
Well, you have plenty to choose from. I wish you success!




imanshiWhen she bought Kenwood, Clathronic gave hers into good hands, he serves there faithfully, however, they use him less often.




Quote: vatruska
Anchic, take a look at the ankasrum (like I wrote it right, huh?), Otherwise you can't explain Well, or otherwise - kneading proceeds according to the principle of a bread machine, it would seem - a tiny stirrer, but how it kneads!
vatruska, in Ankasrum, the kneading is not according to HP, there the bowl is spinning, but, so to speak, the hook is not mobile, but in the First FA-5259-2, Silver mixer-kneading principle of the bread maker, I saw a similar product in Japan on the video, worked for 5 c +, but the price ....
lyuba-s
look bosh mum 21N all Europe praises him
Umka
Quote: lyuba-s
look bosh mum 21N
lyuba-s, and he is that 5-6 thousand rubles. worth ???
Svetlana777
Umka19, no, of course, it costs 204.15 euros from the Germans now, plus delivery of 40.33 euros (I looked specifically) I said about it that it looks like the aforementioned First FA-5259-2. (just some for some reason do not look at the agreed amount) Link to Bosch, well, for the sake of interest, take a look

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Ludmila, oh, take First FA-5259-2, while the discount on Ozone is good, then you will tell sho for such a beast
Mila56
Quote: lyuba-s
look bosh mum 21N all Europe praises him
Something I did not understand about which Boshik we are talking about
And I really, really liked the First FA-5259-2, for the house it is. It is only necessary to study its maximum capabilities, that is, at what maximum. count flour, he can knead the yeast dough. And when using any technique, as an electrician technician, I do not advise you to load it to the maximum. Any equipment will not last long from such a maximum operating mode. If written in the instructions max. kneading for 1.5 kg of flour, then I personally will not knead the dough for more than 1 kg of flour.The equipment has a maximum load and if it (equipment) is driven on this operating mode often, it will crumble.If you need to knead the dough for 2 kg of flour, and this is the maximum that is allowed according to the instructions, then in this case I would divide the number of products into 2 and kneaded 2 times. Do not strain the technique to the maximum and she will say thank you
Anchic
Mila56This Bosch is similar to the First FA-5259-2. Svetlana gave a link to Bosch under the spoiler.
Mila56
Svetlana777, Svetlana, Thanks for the link. Looked, it is good of course, but the price is expensive mom: girl-swoon: not everyone can afford
Svetlana777
Quote: Mila56
not everyone can afford
, here I am of this opinion, well, you can certainly wait for some kind of action .... but even then it will not be cheap, you are not a budget option. Oh, I scratched it from you, otherwise I want to too, (I don't have a current of such a kneader and I think that a pretty entot First FA-5259-2, if I can take my mom to the village ... I’ll go to calm down) but I don’t need
Mila56
Quote: Anchic
this bosh is similar to First FA-5259-2
That's why I liked the First FA-5259-2 and the price is great again. But I don’t need it all the same, I have a BOMAN 315, which I have "for my eyes" for one of my family, I bought it so that it was (suddenly needed when), a couple of times in it I kneaded the yeast dough into some small amount of flour, buns baked. But with a small amount of flour and my bread maker does an excellent job
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Quote: Svetlana777
already walking and thinking pretty entot First FA-5259-2
So I sit and think how cute he is, but there is nowhere to put, except perhaps on my head
Svetlana777
Quote: Mila56
BOMAN 315
I also looked at this type, the Germans had the same parameters, only the marking 305, there were 3 colors, but there was no necessary action ... I waited and waited and bought Kitchen from them, I was shocked by the act ... to catch up with him a chopper, so as not to pay for delivery once again,: girl_red: Here is a chopper - albeit small, but a beast, I really liked it (maybe someone needs it, the volume changes, you can have 2 or 4 knives, my daughter chopped caramel with nuts in 3 seconds )

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lyuba-s
it means that the price has risen there is a steel bowl, cheaper and more expensive plastics On the Amazon they write that these pots have been working for 20 years. I just ordered one for myself. Here all this and read Girls this is a very good site!
Mila56
Quote: Svetlana777
but I really liked the beast (maybe someone needs it, the volume changes, you can 2 or 4 knives
Svetlana, the review will come in handy, at one time I was looking for something similar but reliable as a gift, only we don't seem to have it in retail, now I'll take a better look. I prefer to take retail equipment (listen to the engine hums ...)
Sens
Quote: Peter Push
Consider this option too.
I'm talking about such a Bomann
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Mila56
Quote: Sens
I'm talking about such a Bomann
In this machine, notice the 2 photos of the whisk. The corollas are different, one has a different wire bend shape and the upper part of the corolla (plastic), while the other has ... This plastic part on the corolla (which is put on the pin during assembly), I remember someone broke. It looks like these beaters are from different machines. One had the wire bent cone-shaped (there were complaints that it did not whip the protein well), while the other had ... Take a closer look at the photo using the link inserted earlier.
Sens
Mila56, maybe he has two whisks ?!
Of course, the part is not solid. may crack!
Mila56
Quote: Sens
maybe he has two corollas ?!
No!!!
Sens
Quote: Mila56

No!!!
a little later, I'll go to the manufacturer's website, see what's there ...




Mila56, just in case, I clarify that we are not looking for the best mixer, but a mixer for 5-6 tons.
Peter Push
Quote: Mila56
In this machine, notice the 2 photos of the whisk. The corollas are different, one has a different wire bend shape and the upper part of the corolla (plastic), while the other has ... This plastic part on the corolla (which is put on the pin during assembly), I remember someone broke.
Mila56 , I had one at Klatronic, I used it for almost three years - biscuit dough, beat softened butter with sugar (condensed milk), nothing broke, that whisk crumbled in a comet, whose rod is not metal.
Quote: Sens
Mila56, just in case, I clarify that we are not looking for the best mixer, but a mixer for 5-6 tons.
SensYou are a thousand times right, these are the best options for such a budget. If you use it only for the family and follow the instructions, then you can hope for a long job.
vatruska
People, I just watched the video of this first and got thoughtful ...Who has dough mixers - they all whip up proteins like that? Just by looking at whipping 4's! proteins at high speed, I was left in quiet bewilderment - well, bubble soup and that's it. Well, as for the work of the knives, which, in theory, should throw the mass into the center of the bowl - the bewilderment only intensified, the whole mass is on the lid ...
lyuba-s
It's naive to think that the equipment is cheap if it takes good care of it - it will work for a long time or something else. one-time
Peter Push
imanshi asked a question and flew away, and we all discuss and discuss ...
lyuba-s , I have the simplest and cheapest Klatronic worked since 2013 and now works, but how many people - so many opinions. For me, so to dig up some money and buy more expensive, which I did.
Mila56

Quote: vatruska
Just by looking at whipping 4's! proteins at high speed, I was left in quiet bewilderment - well, bubble soup and that's it.
Visually, it seems to me that its maximum set rotation speed (revolutions) is less than in dough mixers. Therefore, such a result, or maybe she just didn’t beat the protein, didn’t have enough time.
Svetlana777
Quote: lyuba-s
It's naive for the little girls to think that equipment is cheaper if it takes good care of it, it will work for a long time or something else
Here I can say 100% - not true. 8) It depends on who is lucky. I already spoke somewhere about a mixer with a plastic bowl, which they gave me 17 years ago, if not more, (I had, and this miracle, probably from the first Chinese, an unheard-of company, gave it to my sister .. she took it with her to Spain .. the bowl cracked, and the mixer (it was just somehow attached to the bowl) is still plowing at her place, and she bakes often .. I wrote about Asko's washing machine (I know that the topic is different) purchased at the price of an airplane wing (from the highest class, as it was stated, such as Millet) .. worked for about 2 years and ordered to live a long time (this is given the fact that no one does laundry for 2 months in the summer, we are leaving), I could buy 3 washing machines instead, and not the cheapest ones .. .. I can cite a bunch of such examples, tested on my own skin, especially now, when chips are inserted into many equipment that set the operating time (look at the scandals in relation to brands) .... now everything is focused on a constant turnover, if equipment will work for a long time and efficiently, then the market will no.
vatruska
Mila56, how to say ... Have you ever watched hellish cuisine? There was a moment when the contestants were given a bowl, a whisk and squirrels and offered to whip it by hand in 2 minutes. Then conduct a test - turn the bowl over your head.
The machine, by definition, should do better, but there is something incomprehensible ... perhaps the beaters just do not reach the bottom, but then how many proteins do you need to plump there to get the result?
Mila56
Quote: vatruska
Just by looking at whipping 4's! proteins at high speed, I was left in quiet bewilderment - well, bubble soup and that's it.
I watched another video

and here the picture is already good. In the first video, there was not enough time. And yet, I'm not sure that whipped proteins without sugar should, like whipped proteins with sugar, not fall out of the bowl when it is turned over.
Svetlana777
Mila56, from there I also scratched the darker videos, I just watched the one that is hidden, for me, so she just didn’t do it here either.
Mila56
Quote: Svetlana777
so she just didn't beat him here.
Exactly, and in the second video, the whites are whipped like clouds ...
Svetlana777
I don’t know where you are looking, (who’s not so hot) but I also watched how he whipped cream (though I haven’t seen 26%, usually 30 or 33) whipped it in almost 2 minutes ... I think this is great




Mila56, we will see it through and we ourselves want such a beast, the cream is very good, it remains to look at the dough and precipitate
Mila56
We first discussed this video

and then the squirrels were undershot.
And in this video we saw the best picture.


There is also a video about whipping with 26% cream.
Svetlana777
oh, I was almost tempted by the FIRST FA 5259-2 entity, I have points in VTB .. well, I think if it is there I will definitely take it, alas .... bummer, something Ozone did not give them
lyuba-s
in my opinion there are a lot of videos on YouTube
Svetlana777
Quote: lyuba-s
no, the more expensive it is, the better it is
Well, if you have such an opinion, then Bosch is not so expensive and even more so the best technique, it was necessary to save further ...


(with ardo, I generally made fun of it, I understand that this is a stone in my comparison, but then at least figure it out with the class, level and brands of technology, (I took a premium car in comparison, you looked at the rating, according to statistics I took it almost from the end list by reliability) and I talked about the current cost, and not when millions were in use ...

Anchic
any, I have a question - do you fundamentally want to use punctuation marks in your messages?
Marpl
Girls, let's not cling to each other. In this thread, they share their opinions about dough mixers. And it's so difficult to choose, and you are still figuring out who is cooler and more competent.
Anchic
Marina, I do not find out who is more competent. But it is very difficult to read a text in which there is not a single punctuation mark. Well, at least there would be points between the sentences. And then even the phrases are not immediately separated from each other.
Marpl
There is nothing you can do about it, unfortunately young people mostly write like that. These are flaws in their studies, and now they do not read much, and even more so they do not write, therefore visual memory does not work either.
vatruska
Maybe she writes from the phone? Then yes, maybe it’s not like that ...
Ninelle
Anchic, Marpl, or maybe a person has recently mastered a tablet or smartphone. My mother writes very competently, but from the phone - no capital letters, no punctuation marks. And we're on the wrong topic!
By the way, I have been friends with computers for twenty years, but when I write from the phone (that is, almost always) I am terribly mistaken. Either T9 fails, the car jumps and my finger presses on the wrong area of ​​the screen ...




vatruska,
Marpl
I'm not talking about this at all (literacy or mistakes, which are full when writing from the bodies), but about what let's write on the case, namely about mixing.
lyuba-s
I studied five at school, but I definitely don't like typing. And the meaning of vels is clear to everyone. Bosch is not the most expensive technique, according to reviews, it works well for Europeans. But I have everything separately. Cubic cutter and blender and meat grinder and kneader! For me, this is fundamentally important At the cost of Germany, I could write out 2 kenwoods, but did not want to. Why should I sculpt little tips not to understand where For kenwood, this is a marketed move
Marpl
I also prefer to have everything separately. The technique is improved every year, and in the event of a breakdown, it is easier to repair or buy a new thing.
lyuba-s
In general, thanks to everyone and this site. I sat and read this forum all winter, abandoning my favorite embroidery! I would never know about kitchen gadgets, etc. Thank you all! With the technique, of course, anybody made it better before. Girls, I posted a few photos with embroideries in embroidery, see if you wish Good luck to everyone!
Anchic
any, Bosch is a relatively inexpensive technique. And when a person's budget comes down to 6000r, it becomes expensive to buy Bosch. I just managed to buy a Bosch planetary, but I paid a little less than 30t for it. R. - not everyone can afford it. Although I agree that it is better to buy more expensive and better equipment. As my dad used to say: "The miser pays twice." But everyone has their own financial capabilities. Have to get out

P.S. Thanks for the capital letters - it's easier to read your messages
lyuba-s
No, I wrote about my budget.If I didn’t take everything separately, then I would have had enough for kitschen or kenwood. Expensive is not always good in the sense that not everything suits me

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