Marpl
Niarma, this is where the nozzle goes. the cap is unscrewed and a white thing with knives is inserted, and she makes mashed potatoes.
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And about the unrepairability of modern technology - I was told in the warranty workshop that they do not repair, but only activate.
This year I faced such a situation. The new multi-cooker-bread maker Binaton 2170 stopped baking bread after 4 months, was handed over for repairs and after 2 months, having written a certificate, they returned the money for it.
lovely80
Mila56, I want to write to you about kneading pasta dough in Boshik. True, I have a mum of the 5th series, but I'm sure that the 4th series is no worse. In the presence of an Italian dough mixer with a Regin Marcatto motor and a processor with knives, I like making pasta dough in bosch most of all. I put flour in a bowl (about 70% of this is durum flour), put 2 eggs on 300 grams of flour and set the 1st speed. I do the kneading with a hook. It turns out a uniform crumb. Then I add water by eye, he mixes it in, with my hand I collect the parts of the dough into one lump and put them in a bag for 30 minutes. It turns out a very tight dough, which cannot be rolled out with your hands, only by rolling.
That is, I mean that Boshik does an excellent job of kneading such a tight dough, it's not yeast, it doesn't need to be kneaded until gluten develops.
Mila56
Quote: lovely80
I want to write you about kneading pasta dough in Boshik. True, I have a mum of the 5th series, but I'm sure that the 4th series is no worse.
I am currently studying the range of the 4th series. And what about the 5th series? how many watts. ?



Added Monday 16 Jan 2017 00:34

Quote: gawala
to be honest, it never even crossed my mind to buy metal.
I don't know what kind of plastic the bowl is made of. There are many household utensils with PP and PS markings. I don't know what the markings are on the plastic Bosch bowls. I have a lot more respect for PS plastic, it is polystyrene and it is more scratch resistant, but more fragile. For example, I have a 4.3-liter dough bowl from Tupperware, so of course it has an indication that it is for food purposes, but there is no PP or PS marking. In quality, it is similar to polypropylene and from stirring or kneading with a spoon, say (and at least with anything) on ​​the inner walls, it is no longer smooth, but slightly rough (in those places where the spoon touched the walls), the inner top layer of the coating is destroyed and how good it is can be washed. It's not about aesthetics .. I replace different dishes, salad bowls, bowls with PP marking with dishes with PS marking, and more glass. I have this point
lovely80
Mila56, I have a Bosch 54240, power 900 watts. Purely my personal opinion, of course, but I would choose between Kenwood and Bosch. No offense to the owners of bomann and clathronic, but there are too many breakdowns in their ranks. And yet such a plus for me personally - Bosch does an excellent job of kneading a small amount of dough and beating 1 egg.
Mila56
Quote: lovely80
I have a Bosch 54240, the power is 900 watts. Purely my personal opinion, of course, but I would choose between Kenwood and Bosch. No offense to the owners of bomann and clathronic, but there are too many breakdowns in their ranks. And yet such a plus for me personally - Bosch does an excellent job of kneading a small amount of dough and beating 1 egg.
We have on sale 54 model for 20,000 rubles. , I have not yet matured for such a cost of a kneader, although there is not only a kneader, but with the purchase of a 600 W Bosch. I'll wait a while. I want it with a power reserve, and then I'll look and mature. And the fact that he kneads the dough into pasta is not surprising, because 900 watts. I will also study the topic of different kneaders. From the beauches, I understood the difference depending on the power. I study all the same topics on Clatronic and Bomann.
gawala
Quote: Mila56
There are many household dishes with PP and PS markings
I went to see ... I have PP .. well, I don't think that Bosch will produce "left" plastic ..
But if I bought it now, I would buy it only with stainless steel .. But it makes no sense for me to buy a new bowl now, suddenly my combine breaks down .. he's still 13 years old .. So let him work with plastic, and then we'll see
Mila56
Quote: gawala
I would buy it only with stainless steel ..
That's right. And this is my first such purchase, so I will look towards the stainless steel bowls
gawala
Quote: Mila56
And this is my first such purchase, so I will look in the direction of the stainless steel bowls
I did not buy from stainless steel, only for one reason, the price frightened me. The whole complete set costs 238 euros .. but there was everything .. My husband said that we should take it from stainless steel and not look at the price, but I was frightened of something .. Well, in short, it serves for now, life will tell you what to do .. But I'm happy with my Bosch .. helper
Mila56
Quote: gawala
But I'm happy with my Bosch .. helper
: friends: which is required.
Niarma
Marpl, Marina, this is a blender attachment, not for mashed potatoes. I know this one.
Tatka1
Girls, I really need advice.
I started to cook ham, sausages. I knead the meat with my hands. It's hard. I thought about buying a kneader. I wandered around the Internet and saw this model Royalty Line PL-PKM-1800 BG

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The price is humane, there are several attachments included. Everything seems to be good.
Maybe they wrote about it somewhere, then poke it, please Or maybe someone has it, I will be grateful for your feedback.
Tusya
Quote: Tatka1
Maybe they wrote about her somewhere, then stick it, please
otzovik.com / review_4269928.html

lyuba-s
hello someone else's electrolux broke how long it will last for the boshes all the wheels are nylon who knows


Posted Thursday, January 26, 2017 11:41 AM

I want to buy electrolux 4200 please advise!


Added Thursday 26 Jan 2017 4:04 pm

there is a site for rembyttechnics and there they sell gears for food processors, and so on boshes made of plastic for iron electric suites


Added Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:09 PM

Ludmila, Hello ! I want to buy an electrolux for the test, as I understood it for a long time you should take it from you. Write to me.
Peter Push
Quote: lyuba-s
he is like kneading thick dough, I saw the video that he was jumping strongly
lyuba-s, any harvester will stand rooted to the spot if, before using it, one little thing is done to the consumer - to read the instructions and follow its recommendations. Good luck with your choice!
lyuba-s
Peter Push, I don’t argue correctly but everyone has different parameters.
Peter Push
Quote: lyuba-s
Here's a choice
lyuba-s, about Electrolux on the internet only positive reviews - powerful, high-quality, metal. Look here 🔗, there it is called AEG, two bowls, the volume is indicated smaller. Earlier in this topic they wrote about the Proficus metal and about the Clathronic / Bomann metal. Good luck, great choice and the best specimen!
lyuba-s
Peter Push, thanks to yana, the end of the earth I live scared to think about the cost of shipment and constantly add vat or something else how to understand the euro visa and the euro card master how do they differ from just a visa and just a master card
Peter Push
Quote: lyuba-s
thank you yana end of the earth I live scared to think about the cost of shipment and constantly add vat or something else how to understand the euro visa and the euro card master how do they differ from just a visa and just a master card
lyuba, I didn't buy anything from there either. Look at answer 1533, maybe it's closer to you. Ask the author if you have any questions. Good luck! Who seeks will always find!


Posted on Friday 27 Jan 2017 01:33 PM

lyuba, another answer is 1537.
Mila56
I bought a Bomann KM 315 CB food processor. About this a little in his topic.This is my first such unit, and one living in the house is enough for me
Peter Push
Mila56, with your assistant! Let it serve for a long time, faithfully and only please the hostess! Good luck!
Mila56
Peter Push, Thank you. I hope it will be happy.
Tatka1
TusyaThanks for the tip! Chot I did not see right away. Excuse me!
Lily
Mila56, congratulations on your purchase, I bought a Clatronic KM 3633 ten days ago, straight twins, brothers and also with weights
Mila56
Lily, Elena, I congratulate you on your purchase too! We have on order Clatronic KM 3632, it is the same as 3633, only without scales. Yes, they are really similar. And I like the scales so unnecessarily, there are similar ones and they are not very accurate to put it mildly. True Libra Martha, but they are all alike as twins.
Lily
We only had one on the market, there is nothing to choose from (Kenwood is a little expensive) I also don’t need the scales, because I bought it earlier ... they will go as a gift to my sister
mowgli
Mila, Lilya, do you like aggregates?
Lily
mowgli, The experience is not yet great, I baked a biscuit, beat the eggs with a bang, one protein on the meringue is also excellent ..... tomorrow I want to knead the dough ... that's all for now
mowgli
interesting about testo
Mila56
Quote: mowgli
do you like aggregates?
Natalia, but it's too early to write reviews. Today for the first time I tried to knead yeast dough in it for 300 gr. flour. I just met a review that it does not mix well a small amount of products. So I checked it today on kneading for a small amount of dough. Kneaded for 4-5 minutes, by sight I determined that it was enough. Kneaded without problems at 2nd speed. Of course, a small amount of dough, namely dough, not flour, remained on the sides of the bowl. But this is not a problem for me, I shoveled it with a shovel and that's it. And in work it is not loud for me yet (my washing machine roars like an airplane on takeoff during the spin cycle), although the dough was not enough and it was not so heavy, but it kneaded with a hook.



Posted on Friday 27 Jan 2017 10:52 pm

Kneading machines That's how much dough turned out from 300g of flour, but it has not yet come up. And she left the approach right in the bowl, twice upsetting.


Added on Friday 27 Jan 2017 11:01 PM

Kneading machines This is the number of the simplest buns obtained from this amount of dough. I have already tasted one, soft as fluff. I live alone and I don't need much. Unless for guests, then you can knead more. And I liked the shape of the corolla, it is such (rods) as round, fluffy. I specifically chose this one. The girls wrote that if the corollas are not round, but rather conical, then there are problems with beating eggs. But I met about this in the topic - Bomann Food Processor, there are also many pages there.


Added Friday 27 Jan 2017 11:13 pm

Lily, Elenaand does the shutdown button work well? It doesn't work for me. When you turn on the wire, this button is on, then I turn on some speed, but I can't turn it off with the OFF button
Lily
Yes, the button works, but not by light pressing, but to press down .... on my x / n in the same way, I press with effort, so I decided for myself that this is normal.
lyuba-s
Umka19, hello, I want an electrolux, tell me you are not disappointed yet, I ordered but all the same excitement itself seems to be not expensive and not cheap is needed for the test
Lily
Today I kneaded 500 ml yeast dough for pies. milk, put a little flour and the hook twisted this slurry on top without taking the flour from the bottom of the bowl. I had to stop the car, added more flour and everything was kneaded well .... the dough either rose to the very top or dropped, there was a lot of it, probably more than a kilogram (I forgot to weigh it). The car rocked but it did not "jump". IN OVERALL I AM SATISFIED. The type of pies is not very good, but it did not affect the taste ...

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Mila56
Quote: Lily
Today I kneaded a yeast dough for pies for 500 ml.
What pretty pies. And with what? Quite a lot of dough turned out and a good dough in appearance. Is there any baking in the dough? And the dough was steamed in the bowl?
lyuba-s
why no one boasts an electrolux
Mila56
Quote: lyuba-s
why no one boasts an electrolux
Probably he is a rare bird among users
lyuba-s
Mila56, Yes, and why interesting, I read a German forum from them they all take them say that boshi are plastic robots and kenwood is Chinese and expensive There is no need to take it, they say, why to show that we are rich And if there is no money for it, so sit without a robot
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Lily
Pies cottage cheese with raisins, the dough was made by the usual puff yeast ... milk, yeast, eggs a little sour cream 2 tbsp. l.

, then rolled it visually into three parts, smeared the central part with lard with any of the edges, closed the smeared part, smeared the wrapped edge and wrapped it with the remaining third part ... rolled out this "structure" with a rolling pin and repeated the process again. Part of the dough was immediately taken to work, fit on a baking sheet in pies, and the rest fit on the table under a bowl

I don’t know whether I wrote it clearly or not ...
Mila56
Quote: Lily
I don’t know whether I wrote it clearly or not ...
Elena, understandably. And what can you use as lard? Although for puff pastry it is better to take butter
Quote: Lily
Cottage cheese pies with raisins
Here's a good idea, otherwise I still have summer cottage cheese in my freezer.



Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 6:00 PM

Quote: Lily
baked a biscuit whipped eggs with a bang
Elena, and eggs with sugar for how long did they beat?
Now I was kneading the dough for a biscuit in my dough mixer. Eggs (5 pcs.) Took cold and without separating the whites from the yolks, beat at first for 1-2 minutes. without sugar for 1-2 speeds, then alternately turned on speed 3 and 4 and added a little sugar. Whipped without interruption for just about 10 minutes. The fold of the sleeve is heated, of course, not boiling water, but somewhere around 30-40 degrees, you can hold your hand. Because of this, I was afraid to beat it in time, but that would be good, since the mass was not beaten. I'll add a photo. Then I immediately added a little flour, but this is already at the 1st speed. I didn't change the whisk. It turns out just 12 minutes without interruption. I remembered how an ancient mixer was beating me, after which protein and sugar was worth a stake, that is, peaks were obtained. And here I was afraid to drive it to the peaks longer. I grew up straight, that there were no peaks, and then I remembered that with a mixer I got peaks on protein with sugar. It turns out that it is not correct to compare protein whipped with a mixer with sugar and whipped eggs with sugar. Next time, for comparison, be sure to beat the protein with sugar in a dough mixer. Although I think he will beat the whole eggs, only the whipping time needs to be increased, but for now I was afraid of something. After all, they write that the time of continuous work is 5 minutes. But this is probably for a hard test. Next time, I'll start whipping right away from the 4th speed. Girls, write how much the fold of the sleeve heats up in the work of the kneader.



Added Saturday 28 Jan 2017 6:03 PM

Kneading machines I didn't finish the dough, or rather eggs with sugar, I was afraid for more than 10 minutes. beat at 4th speed.


Posted Saturday 28 Jan 2017 6:05 PM

Kneading machines And this is a ready-made biscuit from that dough. Baked in the cartoon Martha.
Lily
I have written in the instructions for 10 minutes. then there should be a break .... about the dough, most of all I like margarine (but my stomach is on strike) lard is what I need, with butter I did not like the creamy dough but not layered, maybe I just didn't succeed. I do this ... The biscuit is very beautiful and so tall! I like the biscuit in the cartoon! I forgot to write, there is practically no sugar in the dough, two tbsp. l. when breeding yeast.
Mila56
Quote: Lily
there is practically no sugar in the dough, two tbsp. l. when breeding yeast.
Got it.
Miranda
Quote: Lily
the hook twisted this slurry along the top without taking the flour from the bottom of the bowl

Maybe I misunderstood the description.
In any dough mixer, flour is more effective on top of liquid, rather than liquid on flour.
Peter Push
Mila56, I on my Klatronic km 3323 (power 1000), I made the dough for a biscuit like this: eggs + sugar and at 2 speed of the pack everything was mixed, then 4 speed and 10 - 12 minutes was put in, flour was introduced in several steps or using a spatula ( I did not like the result with a whisk) or with my hands. And also constantly felt, it bothered me.Your result is good! Congratulations! And I also want to say that I also kneaded Myasoedovsky kulich from 750 g of flour with it, in total there is about 2 kg of dough (for my maximum allowable) 25 minutes at second speed, the dough there is slightly thicker than pancake, kneaded with a hook. I do not urge you to follow my example, I wrote as it was with me.
Lily
Miranda,
Quote: Miranda
In any dough mixer, flour is more effective on top of liquid, rather than liquid on flour.
Yes, thank you very much, I later realized this, well, this is my first dough in the kneader ... although it’s just like that in x / n, what has dropped out of my memory
Mila56
Quote: Peter Push
10 - 12 minutes invested,
Next time, when beating eggs with sugar, I will certainly increase the time.
Quote: Peter Push
(I didn't like the result with a whisk
And I introduced flour and mixed it with a whisk, but already at the first speed. The result is quite usable.
Quote: Peter Push
And she also constantly felt, it bothered me
And what bothered you? Was he warming himself too?
Quote: Peter Push
25 minutes at second speed,
Interesting. Is it non-stop? And now Klatronic km 3323 how does it feel? It seems to have been in operation for 3 years, and now you have Kesha, unless, of course, beguiled.

Peter Push
Mila56 , yes, I also mixed on the first one with a whisk and a spatula, but I liked it better with a spatula - the dough was not so deposited, there was no flour at the bottom either.
I warmed myself up and strongly, I also constantly felt these feelings and thoughts, or maybe turn it off? although there was still no desired result and they strained me, so my eye was squinting in the direction of Kenwood, although initially I wanted to buy 020 or 023, but at that time we did not have them anywhere, I even wanted to buy from my hands, but there he has been at the company for 4 years with In the morning and until the evening I stirred PVA glue with water and additives, so I came back from these smotrins, and ordered in the Klatronic online store.
Yes, the cake was kneaded for 25 minutes. without interruption at 2 speeds. I am not calling you to this, I am just informing you - I did so.
Now he is doing fine and I think he does not miss me, he is not overloaded with work, on average he is turned on once a week, two pensioners do not need more. They are happy.
Mila56, do autolysis when kneading the dough. Stir all the mi first. 2-3 at 1 speed., Then rest for 20-40 minutes, then the main batch for 8-12 minutes.


Added Sunday 29 Jan 2017 00:22

Mila56, oh I don’t know how this one popped out with a bubble, there should be 8 minutes. Focus on the condition of the dough, it should be shiny, silky, there is nothing on the walls of the bowl, the dough will clean them.
mowgli
Quote: Mila56
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/ga..._20170128_162311264~0.jpg I didn't finish the dough, or rather eggs with sugar, I was afraid for more than 10 minutes. beat at 4th speed.
And for me they beat it so gorgeous
lyuba-s
Mila56, in a slow cooker you wrapped a saucepan with parchment when you baked your biscuit or not


Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 10:34 AM

yes, and in my opinion you will not wait on the forums for an adequate assessment of kitchen machines. As I understood who will buy what, and praises the money spent, you can’t say I was wrong


Added Sunday Jan 29, 2017 10:36 AM

I've read all 90 pages and everyone has all the good things - there simply cannot be such in nature! The parameters are different for everyone
mowgli
But why? People are happy with what they have. I also like absolutely everything that I have
lyuba-s
mowgli, of course, happy But people look at the forums to ask for advice and not take something indecent I would not call white black if bad means bad


Added Sunday, Jan 29, 2017 11:15 AM

Oh, it would have been used money would have bought a Kenwood and would not break my head Try from the rest, choose!
mowgli
well, that means not bad. I do not have the opportunity to buy Kitchen and I will look at Bomann, Bosch and decide, that's all. And if people like it, why say what they don't like?

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