Kneading machines

already asked many a question and no one answers only emoticons are sent

Everyone answers you.

But you have counterarguments for all the answers in the form of your fears - the parcel will be stolen, it will come in the test, so cheap because the marriage, in the post office they will make you pay for the delivery again. And yet - I don't know, I don't understand, I don't see.

And on the second answer, short or full, again broadcast your fears. Therefore, they smile now.

But let me try again to answer you.

1. Customs takes duty only for goods worth more than 1,000 euros. Anything below is free of duty.

2. You will not be asked for delivery by mail a second time, since you pay for delivery upon purchase. Nobody will send you from Germany without paying for delivery. Where you read about free shipping is a mystery.

3. You can pay with a Sberbank card, only the course is not the most profitable there, but there are no obstacles in payment. And money is not lost there.

If you still cannot figure out how to make a purchase abroad for such a long time, then I would advise you either not to make this purchase at all, but to buy in Russia, or ask for help from friends / relatives who could show everything while sitting next to you and buy with you. Because it is obvious that remote replies on the forum only annoy you, not help. So you need someone physically close to you to solve this problem.

[Miranda]

Miranda, nothing annoys me, maybe I'm just not very modern but there is a big difference between the Sberbank exchange rate and corn and

[Miranda]

MirandaThank you, everything is clear and correct.

[lyuba-s]

lyuba-s, corn has a Central Bank rate, Sberbank has its own rate, and it is higher than the Central Bank.

But I'm afraid you won't figure it out on your own.
I strongly advise you to seek help from someone close / familiar physically nearby if you want to buy something abroad. Or buy in Russia.

Personally, I will not undertake to explain to you about the cards, because you do not hear, staying on your own wavelength, and therefore, be sure to screw it up and come back with accusations. And my karma is dear to me

It's not about modernity or age. My mother is 70 years old, she is 15 years older than you, but she is completely independent on the Internet. He finds everything he needs, translates with online translators, buys whatever he wants, pays with different cards, etc.

It's about desire and character.

[Miranda]

Miranda, I'm glad for your mother! I am in correspondence in contact with the store and here it is for completeness of the review In my opinion, you are more annoyed Well, it's not about age = so I'm stupid, just don't get upset. I don't want to upset anyone and probably write too. You probably only got used to very smart ones.

[lou]

Good day! Girls, in mvideo there is now an action on the planetary mixer Mulinex. Discount 30 percent. Instead of 15990 - 11 193. While I was trying to find reviews on it, I saw a message about a discount on kitchen hades on a German website. For 21-22 tons. Can you please tell me if you have any shopping experience from this site? I want to choose delivery with add. packing.
I want a mixer more for dumplings and kneading minced meat into ham.
Thank you all in advance for your advice!

I bought one, I arrived right for the New Year. I chose delivery with add. packing. Came quickly.

Added Sunday 19 Feb 2017 11:30 pm

lou, so I ask, how? So I threw the mixer into the basket and shows, let's say 18 tons and payment of 18 tons, where is the payment for delivery?

You need to register and try to place an order, everything will be explained to you.

[Exocat]

Exocatwhat card did you pay with?

[Exocat]

Exocatwhat card did you pay with?

Master card

Oh, my mothers! I looked at this German site and could not resist! What I could not afford in household appliances stores due to the sky-high prices, sarcastically, attracted a 50% discount

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I want to use good helpers in this life, and I ordered it! Itself is shocked by such a quick decision! Now it only remains to wait _{everything will be all right - I repeat like a mantra!}

[j @ ne]

j @ ne, Congratulations
Visit us on the Kenwood Topics

[j @ ne]

j @ ne, Hi, I also gathered from the find from there how much delivery? Kenwood probably took the card which she paid me here corn was advised I read on some forum one woman chose the combine for half a year and I probably will choose for a year and a half I can't decide what is needed

[Miranda]

Miranda, thanks for the invitation! I've been there for a long time _{quietly, not sticking out}, on the mustache _{mk skzt} I'm shaking.
lyuba-s, I have a bread machine on its last gasp, the pin falls out of the bucket, I mix it with frills. I have been looking closely at Boman or Klatronic for a long time, read reviews, and here is such a discount on Kenwood! And, just, they began to explain to you how you can order from ... (see above). The card I have is SB, I followed the instructions in the store, I chose extra. packing and payment by card (here the girls advised, thanks to them!). Yes, the bank took it for conversion, the amount with delivery turned out to be about 22,000. The agony of choice is over, I want to get it faster (by March 8, apparently, it won't have time to reach it, but spring is just beginning).
I wish you success in your choice!

[j @ ne]

I want to use good helpers in this life, and I ordered it

j @ ne... Congratulations! A wise decision!

[j @ ne]

j @ ne, yes, I would have bought the same, but I was confused with corn what number they took and on what Kenwood will come to you with mail or three companies. See, I would not bother people and you would not take Kenwood Well, congratulations!

Posted Monday 20 Feb 2017 7:21 PM

if I choose another six months, then the entire German store will buy up now Vladivostok will know everything!

[j @ ne]

j @ ne, Evgeniya, Congratulations, nice car. Our regiment has arrived!

Thank you, Natasha, for your help in buying! And I'm still waiting ....

Girls, tell me, please, under the guarantee from the German site. If suddenly there is a marriage or breakdown, can you send it to Germany or to any service center with us?

[bobule]

bobuleIt is known from the vastness of the Internet that there is no guarantee in Russia, you need to write off if you give permission to return, send it at your own expense. Then they compensate the delivery up to 40 euros. Ask to send them by simple mail.
In the Unold De Luxe Ice Cream Maker, page 22, girls bought an ice cream maker and sent it back.

Girls, tell me, please, under the guarantee from the German site. If suddenly there is a marriage or breakdown, can you send it to Germany or to any service center with us?

My answer is depends on what do you mean. American Kitchen writes that they are renovating here, but everything else will have to be sent.

I read the forums and it seemed to me that they take some accessories from Germany, and everything else is here, what is the difference between kitschen and kenwood - the attachments do not interest me

I read the forums and it seemed to me that they take some accessories from Germany, and everything else is here, what is the difference between kitschen and kenwood - the attachments do not interest me

When it seems, you need to be baptized. They take devices that are not for sale here, they take devices that are much cheaper there, they take devices from companies that are not represented here at all. An unspoken statement. Well, and what is the difference between one particular harvester from another should be read in the descriptions and operating instructions.

American Kitchen writes that they are renovating here

Much will be repaired here, but not for free.
That is, if the same thing is sold here - Kitchen, Kenwood, Bosch, etc. - then there are such details. Price question.

Much will be repaired here, but not for free.
That is, if the same thing is sold here - Kitchen, Kenwood, Bosch, etc. - then there are such details. Price question.

No, they write that Kitchen, bought in Germany, is being repaired here under warranty.
But since I have not personally traveled this path, I will not argue.

tell me how 700 differs from 700 10

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, in Germany, not American, but European is sold, but as it is written in the official Kitchen store that the European narantia extends to Russia.

[Exocat]

Exocat, oh, like that, cool then.

Here, Philips, for example, recognizes the warranty.
Now the pasta machine is in favor, and they were interested. So the service confirmed that their guarantee is international, that something bought in Germany can be repaired here as if it was bought here.

okay, I've only been choosing for a month

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, in Germany, not American, but European is sold, but as it is written in the official Kitchen store that the European narantia extends to Russia.

Well, yes, that's exactly what I read.
But Kitchen, he's American anyway (that's what she meant). Just the 110V version is American, and the European version is 220V.

Just the 110V version is American, and the European version is 220V.

Yes, that's why the American one is not covered by the warranty, due to the voltage.

[lyuba-s]

okay, I've only been choosing for a month

lyuba-s, this is not a choice, this is trolling

You do not equal me by myself, I have been saving up money for half a year already You have opened a bag and take it And you save up here and you are saving up You think they write the same one is good and that one is Good and can send a marriage I’ve put baking forms - so they put me one with a marriage and wrote out with St. petersburg And I will not send one form I thought I would write out one combine, then I decided at the same time and up to a heap of a couple of things And there is still not enough money So I think while I dig at the same time and ask around And to be honest, I have not yet decided between kitschen and kenwood

Added Wednesday 22 Feb 2017 1:58 PM

people need to believe everywhere now everyone sees enemies of the people and spies

[lyuba-s]

you do not equal by yourself, I am saving up money for half a year already you opened the bag and take it

Don't be rude.

***
lyuba-sperhaps you are not a troll, a spy and not an enemy of the people.

But your way of communicating has gained enough critical mass to be called trolling.

Trolling is a form of social provocation or bullying in online communication.

- writing in one sentence without commas and periods, like a stream of consciousness
- repeated repetition of the same questions, regardless of the previously received answers
- aggression towards those who point you to mistakes

If you don't reconsider your way of communicating, at least to write competently, and at the most, constructively, then at best you will be ignored, at worst banned.

[lyuba-s]

you do not equal yourself, I have been saving money for it for six months already You have opened a bag and take it And you save up here and you are saving up You think they write the same one is good and that one is good and can send a marriage. St. petersburg And I will not send one form I thought I would write out one combine, then I decided at the same time and up to a heap of a couple of things And there is still not enough money So I think while I dig at the same time and ask around And to be honest, I have not yet decided between kitschen and kenwood
Added Today at 13:58
people need to believe everywhere now everyone sees enemies of the people and spies
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...&topic=8100.new;topicseen

lyuba-s, I saved up for Kenwood for several years, all this time I read about him on the internet, and on the forum I did not bother anyone with questions about all the kitchen machines in a row, I knew what I want.
But you just don't believe people. About your phobias Miranda already wrote everything above.

But I still bow - you are a troll!
lyuba-s, do not reply to my posts

Added Wednesday 22 Feb 2017 03:13 PM

Miranda, once again

I'm sorry everyone, I didn't want to offend anyone, but I myself will not write to anyone here

: girl_red: Hello, experts in technology, I read and read, but I haven't really decided what I want (I don't know what I want to know that I would beat the meringue well, dough, cream, etc.)d, but since I'm a layman, and then I looked at you and saw links to discounts and now I am sitting in deep thought and uncertainty the choice between Kenwood KMC570 08 Chef Premier inkl. Fleischwolf und Glas-Mixaufsatz (AT358, suits everything except the superfluous (meat grinder, etc.) and KitchenAid 5K45SS Classic white - here the power of 250V is not clear to me at all (just don't swear too much ... well, I'm stupid)

power 250V well, not at all clear to me

Kitchen writes constant power, not maximum. Others write the maximum pulse power.

[Sedne]

Sedne, and which machine of these kneads better

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777oh it's such an endless argument
Kenwood or Kitchen - many forum pages and sites in many languages.

[Miranda]

Miranda, that's for sure, how much I have been reading ... also discounts ... there is nothing for at least one brand (here sKidka would have won, but so .. I feel I’ll finish reading and the discounts will end

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, but after reading for a year and a half while I was waiting for the opportunity to find my typewriter, I chose Kenwood

here the power is 250V

This is not power, but supply voltage.
At the expense of cars, I also chose for a long time between Kitcher and Kenwood. Kenwood won the price and reliability of Kitcher well in the states, where the price is normal, and the European one is no longer cheaper than Kenwood, plus nozzles for the first at a normal price only from the states.

[Vlad_Ru]

Vlad_Ru, Thanks for the info, for the price now Kenwood and Kitchen are almost the same of those that I am considering. (Kenwood just has a meat grinder, etc., but I have Kenwood separately and I don’t know about reliability, I have already changed the gear 2 times, I need nozzles basic, (dough, cream, minced meat) ... because everything else is there separately (do not throw it away), Therefore, I need a powerful and reliable plein air mixer and that's all. And there are doubts about the reliability of brands - they will spin up, and then they drive that not hitting (faced with this - money down the drain and a bunch of nerves spent

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777,
At the expense of a separate meat grinder, this may be, the mechanics there are different BUT if it is standard AT950A then how the nozzle will fit the car.
I also have a meat grinder separately, but I still bought a nozzle so that I do not need to take out the meat grinder and clean it up later. Kenwood is always on the table and at work and then remove the second thing. Now it is profitable for the Kenwood stock (6 nozzles per load), I bought mine without this and some of the nozzles separately. The fact that individual appliances (blender, chopper) are good, the stock is always good
By the way, if I'm not mistaken, someone here on the forum was selling a new car for a stock, but without attachments, at half the price.
In terms of reliability, the mechanics there "oak" there is almost nothing to break, at the expense of electricians about the new Kenwood KVC5000T I will not say (I have an old model chef kmc 010), but I will also give everything more or less reliably. Plus, the company warranty is good and you can buy spare parts online.
What else I did not like with Kitcher is the speed switch, it is horizontal, there is a danger of accidentally hitting (the handle protrudes), but maybe it only seems to me, and from the point of view of technical design, the horizontal reliability regulators are still smaller. BUT this is just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong

For sale - see the relevant topic in the flea market section.

[V.]

For sale - see the relevant topic in the flea market section.

Week to read Of the rules of that section (namely paragraph V.).

[Svetlana777]

This is not power, but supply voltage.

The KitchenAid Classic has just the power, and the voltage is 220-240, and the nominal / operating power is 250/1350 W

Added Saturday 25 Feb 2017 15:17

Svetlana777, I would still choose Kitchen from those two

The KitchenAid Classic has just the power, nominal / operating 250/1350 W

Thanks for the clarification, but maybe then the idle power is 250 W? and on the website of the official representatives it seems like it says 300 W

like written 300 W

300 is from Artisan

Added Saturday 25 Feb 2017 03:44 PM

I found this in the official online store
Why is the KitchenAid mixer only 300 watts, yet our planetary mixers are significantly more reliable and more powerful than those rated over 1000 watts.
The answer to this question is very simple.
Other household brands have pulsed power (for a few seconds) indicated.KitchenAid mixers, thanks to their design and material of manufacture, are able to maintain an operating mode of 300 W for 10 minutes - this makes them a semi-professional technique.

There is also a correspondence table given to the nominal and maximum power.

300 is from Artisan

I'm sorry, maybe I looked in the wrong place

I would still choose Kitchen from those two

If it's not difficult for you to explain your preferences
It's just very interesting to know the opinion of the real owners, the pros and cons.