Rina
Reset the program, start "pizza", add flour to the state of a kolobok (see links in post 301 on this page), then reset the program, let the distance and set the baked goods.

And READ THE INSTRUCTIONS carefully, it is indicated in which programs how long the "alignment" can last.

Next ... How do you measure flour? Apparently, you have a clear drawback in the recipe. Chat in the topic Help! Nothing comes out!
aquaria
Please tell me how you bake Easter cake (the whole cycle, which program for dough and baking, or all on one program)? I tried to bake and everything burned out. I baked bread with raisins on the program. And another question is why does the top settle and the crumb falls out? The main bread was baked. Thank you.
Rina
aquariaYour question is not so much about the work of the stove, but about the ingredients. Chat here Help! Nothing comes out!
sazalexter
aquaria Kulich, this is generally a complex baking, first achieve a stable result on plain white bread. Use weights!
Read the forum here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=131.0
There are also proven recipes for Panasonic 255
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3328.0
Good luck!
Lana
Quote: Aquaria

Please tell me how you bake Easter cake (the whole cycle, which program for dough and baking, or all on one program)? I tried to bake and everything burned out. I baked bread with raisins on the program. And another question is why does the top settle and the crumb falls out? The main bread was baked. Thank you.
aquaria
If you are interested, then I only bake cakes for Easter and only in the oven
I was interested and tried the recipes from the site, they are decent, interesting, but do not answer my taste and idea of Kulich If the recipe contains a lot of sugar and muffins (fats!), Then it will burn or not bake, since we do not regulate the temperature, however, you can specify a smaller size and a light crust, but then there is a danger that the baked goods will be "gley", not baked, but damp.
How we bake Kulich in the oven: for a long time and at a low temperature ... This is not possible here.
Otherwise, you will have sweet bread, not cake, but beautiful! It's my opinion
There is a very decent recipe for Bread with honey and nuts
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6008.0
Delicious, aromatic! But the crumb, like a Calorie Bun, is a little soft, if you press with your finger, the dimple will barely expand, but I love this structure. Here is the kind of bread that I baked
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=87742.0
This is a proven recipe and no cake is needed Everything in due time!
Alena78
Quote: Aquaria

Please tell me how you bake Easter cake (the whole cycle, which program for dough and baking, or all on one program)? I tried to bake and everything burned out. I baked bread with raisins on the program. And another question why does the top settle and the crumb falls out? The main bread was baked. Thank you.
I have baked this cake many times already. It works all the time.
Try it. Delicious Easter cake from Elena Bo
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30848.0
Use a size M and a light crust.
It turns out fried, but not burnt.
It is rather sweet bread than cake. But delicious.
Alisjon
Hello dear bakers! I, too, already 3 days ago, became a happy owner of a stove) Thank you all for generously sharing your experience) I have already tried making milk bread, French on the timer and (already a little bit) wheat-rye-corn bread with flakes (my own variation on a recipe for bread made from different types of flour).I am very pleased with the result, I already praised the stove and kissed :) I would like to find a recipe according to which "English" bread is made (bakery "Karavai" (St. Petersburg) or "English breakfast" ("Bread House"). Maybe someone knows such a recipe ? (This is rye-wheat bread with cereals, bran, pumpkin and sunflower seeds and flaxseed, very airy and light). Thanks in advance!
wall
Try this one, I liked it
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lenucha
Hello dear forum users!
Last week, after much thought, anguish, doubts, sleepless nights, studying the site, thanks to all of you, I finally made my choice and ordered a Panasonic257 bread maker through the online store
And for several days now I am the happiest person !!!
Now I am mastering programs and recipes. So far, I have only baked two main bread and an egg one. The main one turned out to be not very pretty ... but I think I know why ... the first time I measured out salt, yeast and sugar. sand with ordinary teaspoons and tablespoons (probably didn’t fill it up or pour it over), and after the bread was baked, I hurried to get it out of the bucket and cut it almost immediately ... (well, I really wanted to see and try) it seemed to me that the bread was not baked and very It smells strongly of yeast, but in the morning the bread tasted very good !!! Today I baked egg bread, well, just handsome!
now I will try to upload pictures ...
Baking in Panasonic SD-257
Baking in Panasonic SD-257
quince
panteracat, thanks for your help, I regularly look at the instructions, but I didn't guess the size of the rye bread.
Much has not yet settled in my head on the shelves

I am very pleased with my bread maker, although I have been using it recently and share with the girls of the forum my love for this irreplaceable helper.
The smell of baking in the house, in my opinion, fills the house with coziness, warmth and the feeling of only your own home, where everyone is expected, taken care of and loved by each family member (and guests, of course, too). Waugh wrote ...
zabadazh
I bought it yesterday.
1. Was everyone's warranty card blank?
2. Pudov mixes are designed for 750 grams, while our maximum size of a kolobok is only 600. What to do?
3. What are some good electronic scales?
Lana
Quote: zabadazh

I bought it yesterday.
1. Was everyone's warranty card blank?
2. Pudov mixes are designed for 750 grams, while our maximum size of a kolobok is only 600. What to do?
3. What are some good electronic scales?
zabadazh
1. The warranty card is complete.
2. I think we need to fill in the excess.
3. Scales see here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=99&topic=420.0
For every taste and requirement!
Anna_V
So we have this gorgeous thing.
Was purchased a week ago. Bought in an online store, just 2 pieces, home and friend.
Dad dreamed of a bread maker for a long time! And now it happened!
The first two times I did everything clearly according to the recipe from the book. The result, did not rise, sagged. Upset.
Today, after reading your forum, I added 20 ml more water and ...

lo and behold
🔗 🔗

now we will look for where to buy bran, and further study with new recipes
zabadazh
I'm telling you. The first pancake turned out to be lumpy - 800 grams of flour spilled out and set a small size. Not a damn thing baked. Scales are urgently needed.
The second time I used Borodinsky's Pudov mixture. Everything seems to be OK, but he's so scary ...

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🔗

Or is it okay?
Rina
aa-a-a-a-a ... 800 g What have you measured?

Ready mixes are often not praised. Many do this - divide the pack in half (it turns out 350 g) and add wheat flour to the required amount (50, 150 g). Only proven yeast should be used!

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First, read the section To the attention of beginners - READ MANDATORY !!! (FAQ-in questions and answers)... There are links to all essential points.

UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD
The work of the bread maker in photographs
It is imperative to know the tale of the kolobok!
lenucha
Quote: quince

Girls, in the Rye-baking program it is impossible to set the size of the bread and the color of the crust? Or am I doing something wrong?
quince, what recipe do you use for baking rye bread?
I would also like to bake rye, but only without any additives ... is it possible?
tell me the recipe, for a beginner , simple rye bread and if you can in more detail how to bake and on what program?
zabadazh
Quote: Rina72

aa-a-a-a-a ... 800 g What have you measured?

it happened
Olechka96
Hello everyone!
A week ago I became the owner of this wonderful HP. I am absolutely delighted. She has already baked 2 types of bread: egg and French, and also kneaded dumplings. I liked French bread more - it is more airy and not heavy on the stomach (for me, at least). I have gotten used to setting the timer for the night, and in the morning with my family we enjoy hot bread. It always turns out to be very neat, the roof of the bread also does not "go", everything is as it should.
Only I had a question about the size of the loaves. There are three sizes M, L and XL - how much in grams? The instructions indicate that you can bake bread for 1200 grams. I can't understand: does it only go for kneading the dough, and then bake it in the oven, or can you bake it directly in KhP to that weight? I would very much like to receive an answer to my question.
sazalexter
Olechka96 For flour, a maximum of 600-750g, this will be about 1200g of finished bread at the output. M, L is respectively 400g and 500g of flour
Olechka96
sazalexter, thanks a lot for the answer. I will experiment. I'll post my bread results later on the forum. )
sea39
lenucha. about a simple recipe, you take a walk on the forum, recipes by authors, and so on. you will find a lot of recipes for rye and wheat-rye bread, I myself only use HP for 3 months, but I advise you to start with wheat-rye bread, be sure to read "rye tips" from Gasha !!!, in her recipes. There, in my opinion, there is about additives, which one is needed for what and how it can be replaced, in general, take a walk around the forum, do not rush :) I started by printing out a manual for myself on the formation of a Kolobok, and rye and wheat, many more useful tips, I collected all this in a daddy, over time, I began to add the recipes I liked there. Rye bread separately, wheat separately, baked goods are also separately, now the whole family is laughing at me, ooo, my mother got her beloved daddy))) And I often bake rye bread according to the instructions from our HP, I just add 1 hour. l. apple cider vinegar. Good luck to you!!
quince
Lenucha, I bake rye with bran according to the instructions for Panasonic 257 (p. 17), my men really liked it.
And I like Darnitsky bread on dry kvass more (cumin and coriander are added in it).
Try the recipes with rye flour from the instructions for a start, so you will understand what taste and density of bread you like best. Then you will make your own adjustments to the recipe for yourself
lenucha
Sea39, Quince! Thank you so much for noticing my message and responding to help!
zabadazh
Quote: lenucha

Sea39, Quince! Thank you so much for noticing my message and responding to help!
When I walked through the forum I found this recipe (I wrote it out)warm water - 150ml, kefir 3.2% - 100ml, olive. oil-2 tbsp. l, sugar-2 tbsp. l., salt-1.5 tsp. l., yeast-1.5 h. l., rye flour-400gr, but then I still did not have a x / stove and I did not write out the regime and other details ... Yesterday I took a risk to bake ... the bun was kneading well and therefore I stopped looking into the x / n .... and apparently in vain! When it came time to take out the bread, I saw ... a miserable picture ... in the corner of the bucket lay a small, almost flat, fried lump.
She took it out of the bucket with difficulty, then pulled out a spatula, the bread was dense and as if toughBaking in Panasonic SD-257When it cooled down, I put it in a bag ... in the morning the bread became soft in the cut, dense, tasted with sourness and quite decent, but the look is still pitiful. Help to fix the mistakes !? what's wrong? I look forward to tips, advice!

Where is the picture?
Rina
zabadazhplease edit the quote. It is not worth quoting the previous message in full, especially if there are photographs, and even more so if these photographs are not visible.
Sansan2006
Hello everyone! The idiot's dream has come true! The sons gave my wife and I the long-awaited Panasonic SD-257 unit. While I am mastering simple recipes. Everything is not just tasty, but very tasty. Already baked 8 loaves. Absolutely aperiodic, it tears the roof, then just a feast for the eyes), although flour and yeast, etc. from the same batch. True, this absolutely does not bother anyone. "To the heap" I bought a good accurate scales, tomorrow I am going to a mechanical sieve, rye flour, leaven and bran.Here! Thanks to the moderators for the created and carefully maintained site! Today I have a day off, so I sit here for 5 hours and literally enjoy ideas, recipes. If you get something decent, I'll post a photo too.
lenucha
Quote: Rina72

zabadazhplease edit the quote. It is not worth quoting the previous message in full, especially if there are photos, and even more so if these photos are not visible.
zabadazh, Rina72, how can you not see my photos? I can see them!
Lana
Quote: lenucha

zabadazh, Rina72, how can you not see my photos? I can see them!
lenucha
I'm very sorry, but I can't see the photo either
sea39
lenucha, again I advise you to wait with pure rye bread, well, try wheat-rye bread, fill your hand, look at Kolobok's behavior. Have you read Gashi's "rye tips"? it says that if a rye bun was formed during the first batch, the second bun is not needed at all, since the bun can break into a slurry !!! I understand your desire to bake rye bread, as I love it myself)) Try to bake "beer bread", it is also with rye flour, but I don’t remember who the author is, if you don’t find the author on the forum, let me know the recipe, Try "rye bread with cottage cheese and potato flakes ", in my opinion from Gasha, very tasty!
lenucha
Sea39, Quince! Thank you so much for noticing my message and responding to help!
When I walked through the forum I found this recipe (wrote out) warm water - 150ml, kefir 3.2% - 100ml, olive. oil-2 tbsp. l, sugar-2 tbsp. l., salt-1.5 tsp. l., yeast-1.5 h. l., rye flour-400gr, but then I still did not have a c / stove and I did not write out the regime and other details ... Yesterday I took a chance to bake ... the bun was kneading well and therefore I stopped looking into the c / n .. .. and apparently in vain! When it came time to take out the bread, I saw ... a miserable picture ... in the corner of the bucket lay a small, almost flat, fried lump.
She took it out of the bucket with difficulty, then pulled out a spatula, the bread was dense and as if hard,Baking in Panasonic SD-257when it cooled down, put it in a bag ... in the morning the bread became soft on the cut, dense, tasted with sourness and quite decent, but the look is still pitiful. Help to fix the mistakes !? what's wrong? I look forward to tips, advice!

lenucha
lana7386, Sea39, and now you see the photo?
Lana
Quote: lenucha

lana7386, Sea39, and now you see the photo?
: yahoo: I see!
lenucha
Quote: quince

Lenucha, I bake rye with bran according to the instructions for Panasonic 257 (p. 17), my men really liked it.
And I like Darnitsky bread on dry kvass more (cumin and coriander are added in it).
Try the recipes with rye flour from the instructions for a start, so you will understand what taste and density of bread you like best. Then you will make your own adjustments to the recipe for yourself
quince, please give me the recipe for "Darnitsky" on beer and instructions for it
Rina
I also see in the new message. lenuchaplease go back to your previous post, in the upper right corner there are buttons "edit" and "delete". Your choice: "edit" - go to the correction mode and, or delete the link to the photo altogether, or edit it.
lenucha
Quote: lana7386

: yahoo: I see!
Well, how do you like my bread?
lenucha
Quote: Rina72

I also see in the new message. lenuchaplease go back to your previous post, in the upper right corner there are buttons "edit" and "delete". Your choice: "edit" - go to the correction mode and, or delete the link to the photo altogether, or edit it.
Rina72, I tried several times to "edit" it does not work, but there is no button to delete in the upper right corner
Everything, deleted!
Rina
lenucha,
Your question is more likely not related to the bread maker itself, but to the recipe and technology.
we have the corresponding:
section Work on bugs,
theme Help! Nothing comes out !!!,
"Rye" tips
sea39
Well, how do you like my bread?

lenucha. Believe it or not, I, like you, was eager to fight, that is, I want rye right away and that's it! My first rye gingerbread man, when kneading, slightly bent the teeth of a shovel for rye bread! : cray: You can imagine it, no? But I saw it with my own eyes! * JOKINGLY * Received my first rye bread, whose name was BRICK! Delicious, baked, but some kind of brick)))
julia-bor
I have never tried baking pure rye bread. It's somehow scary. But the rye-wheat is delicious. This is how I have it:
Baking in Panasonic SD-257

Here's a little more study of different Temko on the forum and maybe I'll take rye

Lana
julia-bor
What a beautiful bread you baked!
Quote: julia-bor


I have never tried baking pure rye bread. It's somehow scary. But the rye-wheat is delicious.This is how I have it:
Here's a little more study of different Temko on the forum and maybe I'll take rye
Do you mean bread where the percentage of rye flour is higher than wheat?
lenucha
Quote: lana7386

julia-bor
What a beautiful bread you baked! : girl_love: Do you mean bread where the percentage of rye flour is higher than wheat?
What recipe did you bake and on what mode?
lenucha
Quote: sea39

Well, how do you like my bread?

lenucha. Believe it or not, I, like you, was eager to fight, that is, I want rye right away and that's it! My first rye gingerbread man, when kneading, slightly bent the teeth of a shovel for rye bread! : cray: You can imagine it, no? But I saw it with my own eyes! * JOKINGLY * Received my first rye bread, whose name was BRICK! Delicious, baked, but some kind of brick)))
sea39, here Rina72 advised me to go to the sections: work on bugs, rye advice, help! nothing comes of it .... let's go together, let's learn !?
sea39
Yes, with pleasure, lenucha, especially since the places are already familiar to me, I even printed rye tips and did something else! but why not take a walk in good company?
lenucha
Quote: sea39

Yes, with pleasure, lenucha, especially since the places are already familiar to me, I even printed rye tips and did something else! but why not take a walk in good company?
sea39, but really we have cool stoves !?
I am so glad that I bought this particular model, only now I need to learn how to bake wonderful bread so as not to "let down" the x / oven
meet an interesting recipe-share?
julia-bor
Quote: lana7386

What a beautiful bread you baked! : girl_love: Do you mean bread where the percentage of rye flour is higher than wheat?
Thanks for the compliment! Of course, I said incorrectly: I have more wheat flour, which means - wheat-rye

Quote: lenucha

What recipe did you bake and on what mode?
I have the following recipe:
Dry yeast 2 tsp
Wheat flour 1 1/2 h
Rye flour 1 h
Salt 1.5 tsp
Sugar 1 tbsp. l.
Cocoa 1.5 tsp
Instant coffee 1.5 tsp.
Butter 25 g
5% apple cider vinegar 2 tbsp. l.
Water 300 ml
Basic mode, medium size, medium crust.
Now it is baked according to the same recipe, but I added some more seeds. The aroma is worth ... Only now I looked into the bucket, when the kneading passed, and there was dough on one side, and on the other, there were residual flour that had not been mixed into the dough. What is I don't understand ?! I stirred it somehow, before baking I looked in - everything seems to be fine, even pretty. I'm sitting waiting.
Quote: lenucha

sea39, but really we have cool stoves !?
Although the question is not for me, but I agree The stoves are cool
Lana
julia-bor
When you knead bread with rye flour, be sure to help with a silicone or wooden spatula during the first Kneading so that all the flour is kneaded into a bun. Rye dough "requires"
julia-bor
lana7386, thanks for the advice!!! I will consider.
I have already done this recipe, it seems that everything itself was mixed, without my help))) but here ...
And you can come to me
Lana
Quote: julia-bor


And you can come to me
julia-bor Agreed!
lenucha
Girls, can you tell me? I read the recipe somewhere Easter cake from Elena Bo, I want to take a chance and bake, but for two hours I can't find it ... where can I find it? she writes that all her recipes are in the gallery, and I looked at the gallery of breads, there is nothing at all ...
Rina
We go to the main page of the forum, find the "Forum guide" => "General list of forum recipes" => section EASTER , and there ... and there ...
Well delicious cake from Elena Bo

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