Sonadora
xfqrf , I have no problems with the top, too Electrolux gas. But this oven, although the most expensive of the built-in ones gasturned out to be problematic.
It was only later, after the purchase, in the internet they read that everyone had such problems with her.
They called the gas workers - the nozzle was the right one for our household type of gas (methane, if I remember correctly and don't confuse anything). The second version of the nozzle, for liquid gas, as they explained, will not work.
xfqrf
SONADORA, so I'm lucky, I have an electric oven. Sorry, I thought they were all good.
Keti
I found such an interesting article. Maybe someone will be interested.
Part 1

What a modern oven can do


Required elements
In any electric oven there are heaters - heating elements, due to the heating of which food is prepared.
The lower heater is usually hidden under a metal sheet and is not visible to the eye, but the upper heating element and grill are located under the ceiling of the oven, you can look at them and touch them with your hands. They are not hidden under a metal sheet, since infrared radiation does not pass through the metal.
The overhead heaters are quite interesting. Firstly, it is a heating element, which runs along the perimeter of the oven ceiling and is called the upper heating element. Secondly, it is a curved heating element located in the middle - a grill that looks like the heating element of a kettle or an automatic washing machine. At the maximum temperature (usually 220-250 ° C), the grill is red-hot. At the same time, the surface of the dish located on the middle part of the wire rack placed on the upper or middle level is heated directly. Interestingly, the air in the oven does not heat up much at the same time, so the cutlet placed on the edge of the wire rack will remain undercooked. All manufacturers in the instructions for stoves and ovens emphasize the features of the operation of this mode.
Sometimes there are models of built-in ovens with a quartz grill (the heater is hidden in a quartz glass case). These are always ovens with a microwave function (Smeg S300X, Siemens HB77L55 EU), we did not find quartz grills in ovens without microwaves.
In order to cook on the entire surface of the grate, a mode has been created in which both upper heaters are turned on. Different manufacturers call this function differently: “Large Vario Grill” (Bosch), “Double Grill” (Indesit), “Full Grill” (Zigmund & Stain), etc. When activated, you can cook over the entire grill area.
If you want the cooking dish to be fried on both sides, you must remember to turn it over. Almost all manufacturers use the term "grill" to refer to the operation of the central heater, but Gorenje prefers the name "infra-heater" and Mastercook calls it "roaster", although this does not change the essence of the matter.
In the "top heating" mode, which is not found in all manufacturers, only the top heating element is turned on. Its power is usually small, therefore the general functionality of the mode is very limited, which explains the fact that it is not used very often.

The fan changes everything
Ovens with two heating elements and a grill are called static. But this technique cannot be called modern. This is yesterday's, and maybe the day before yesterday's level of comfort. Devices that are rightfully called multifunctional or multifunctional have confidently replaced static ovens. What changed? The upper and lower heating elements remained in their places, but a small but smart fan appeared on the back wall of the oven, which drives air throughout the entire inner space of the oven, while providing faster heating and an even distribution of hot air.
Have you noticed how quickly and evenly your skin becomes tanned in windy weather, even if it's not very hot outside? Likewise, any dish placed in a fan oven cooks faster at a lower temperature. When the fan is operating without heating the air, you can defrost a variety of foods, and at a temperature of 50-80 ° C, you can dry fruits and mushrooms. Combinations of simultaneous operation of separate heaters and a fan are naturally possible. Particularly interesting is the grill operating mode with simultaneous fan operation.
Many homemade grilled meat lovers remember that in a static electric oven, a chicken or goose was often mercilessly dry during grilling. A working fan provides a "hot breath" that spreads directly to the meat located in the oven, so it quickly becomes evenly crusty, keeping its juiciness inside. Some experts even point out that in ovens with this mode, a spit is not needed, because now it is not the meat that rotates, exposing its sides to the heat of the grill, but the hot air rotates around the meat. Many fan ovens do not include a spit. But some manufacturers did not deprive people of the pleasure of contemplating a rotating appetizing chicken, and left the skewer.
With the simultaneous operation of the lower heater with a fan or two heating elements with a fan, the time required for cooking any dish is reduced. In addition, as mentioned above, the cooking temperature in this mode can be reduced by 20-30 ° C, which is recommended in some instructions (for example, for Electrolux stoves).

And the ring has no beginning and no end
Progress does not stand still, and in many stoves and ovens on the back wall around the fan there is an additional heater, which is called "back" or "ring". With its appearance, the functionality of ovens has become even wider.
First of all, the mode of simultaneous operation of the fan and the ring heater appeared. As it is not called by different manufacturers of stoves: and "multi-hot air" (AEG), and "3D - hot air" (Bosch, Siemens), and "cooking with blowing" (Candy), etc. The main feature of this mode is the possibility of simultaneous cooking at once on several levels of the oven. In this case, you can bake several trays of shortbread cookies, or you can cook two different dishes at once.
In some ovens and stoves, a special mode for pizza preparation has appeared, in which the bottom and ring (rear) heaters and a fan work simultaneously. Moreover, this mode is found not only among Italian manufacturers (Ariston, Zanussi), but also among other Europeans (Bosch, Electrolux, AEG). However, some manufacturers do not limit the use of this mode only to the preparation of a traditional Italian dish, but emphasize its attractive features: ultra-fast heating, which allows you to significantly save time. The recommended temperature for this mode is 200 ° C.
The "pizza" mode aims to bring the conditions in the oven closer to those in the stone oven in which the dish was traditionally cooked. Fast uniform heating allows you to get high-quality baked pizza with melted, but not burnt cheese in a short period of time. The main thing is to catch the moment when to take out the pizza, so that it is, as they say, "in the juice itself", and here a lot depends not only on the capabilities of the oven, but also on the owner's instinct and experience.

How much?
We have divided all electric stoves and built-in ovens offered on the Russian market into three large groups:
price up to $ 500
price from $ 500
up to $ 1000
price from $ 1000
I must say that the price of stoves and ovens depends on a number of reasons: volume, control (mechanical or touch), self-cleaning functions (pyrolytic ovens are always very expensive), protection functions, energy class, design (prices for the same models with different designs can vary over a wide range).
In the stoves, among other things, the price depends on the type of coating of the cooking zone (almost all glass-ceramic are in the middle and high price group), on which heaters are installed on the surface, whether there are heating zones with varying geometry. All this leads to the fact that models of the same manufacturer with the same number of heating functions in ovens can be in different price groups. But a certain gradation is still observed.

Available to all
The group of the most affordable plates includes the equipment of domestic manufacturers Gazmash, Gefest, Darina, DeLuxe, ZVI, NovoVyatka (enameled and glass-ceramic), from foreign manufacturers this is a number of models Beko, Bompani, Nardi, Indesit, some models of Ardo, Ariston, Asko , Hansa, Gorenje, Kaiser (mostly with enamel hob and pancake burners).
You can find a stove with a fan from domestic manufacturers (Gefest 1140-05, Darina 1403-04B, a number of ZVI models). In ZVI stoves (401-10, 401-11), unlike imported counterparts, the fan has its own separate control button, so it can be turned on in any heating mode.
Thus, in cheap cookers (the price is slightly less than $ 250), up to 10 heating modes are provided. But in these models, there is no ring heater on the back wall, which somewhat reduces the capabilities of the oven. The overwhelming majority of imported stoves in this price group have a static oven (top / bottom, top, bottom, grill). Sometimes, in the range of $ 400 to $ 500, you can find models with five programs, for example, the Ariston c 302 M (W).
In built-in ovens of this price group, the presence of several modes is more common. For example, among Ardo ovens there are models with convection (from $ 300) and with a rear heater ($ 487). Ariston offers a choice of static ovens ($ 273-313) or ovens with five programs ($ 299-368). You can find a “7 cooks” oven, but to keep within $ 500, you will have to be content with a model with a modest design. In this price group, there are some Bosch convection ovens with four heating modes (price over $ 400), and you can also pick up a multifunctional oven with a rear heater and 7-8 modes of operation for less than $ 500 from Electrolux, Gorenje, some of them even have a mode "pizza".
Domestic manufacturers began to produce built-in ovens, at a price they are affordable for the mass consumer. So an oven with four modes from the ZVI is sold for only $ 345. Darin's 32.03 ECV model is noteworthy. This oven is equipped with a fan, so its functionality is very wide, its cost is $ 296.

Middle half
This group includes electric cookers Ardo, Ariston, Bosch, Brandt, Gorenje, Electrolux, Indesit (the most expensive models of this manufacturer), Hansa, Kaiser, Siemens (the cheapest models of this manufacturer), etc.
Needless to say, in the second price group, the vast majority of models have a glass-ceramic hob. It is its presence that is the main factor in the price increase, therefore, in the range from $ 500 to $ 650, you can find models with a static oven, but a glass-ceramic hob. For example, the Bosch HSS 722 KEU stove ($ 597), Indesit K6C7E (W) R ($ 568), etc. Interestingly, the prices for models with a multifunctional oven but an enamel hob are about the same. True, there are only a few such models, because most manufacturers and consumers choose glass ceramics. An example is the Gorenje E 777W, E 7774W and Kaiser E502.81TeKDNCs stoves, in the ovens of which there are eight operating modes at a price of $ 536, $ 588 and $ 624, respectively. The Kaiser model is more expensive, since in addition to the fan, there is also a ring heater on the back of the oven.
In mid-range stoves, many models have a fan on the back wall, and some have a ring heater. For example, Ardo C 60EEFWH with seven work programs ($ 611), Ariston C3V9 - seven programs ($ 582).
The prices for glass-ceramic hobs with multifunctional ovens from a number of other manufacturers - Bosch, Brandt, Gorenie, Kaiser, Siemens, etc. are much higher. So the Bosch HSN 832 KEU hob ($ 747) has only five programs and there is no ring heater on the back wall, only a fan. The Gorenje EC 774 ($ 743), EC 777B ($ 833), EC 778 B ($ 896) stoves have seven programs, including the Aqua Cleen branded self-cleaning.
Signature oven “7 Chefs - Pizza” is installed in the most expensive Ariston stoves (from $ 700).For Kaiser stoves, the Multi8 oven is installed in glass-ceramic hobs, the price of which exceeds $ 850 (models C502.813TeKDSpCs, C602.80TcWs, C602.834TeKDCs). In general, in stoves of this price group, the number of oven heating programs is usually less than ten. All the necessary programs are present, but only in a few models you can see circular heating and special modes like "pizza". The same group contains a large number of the most diverse models of built-in ovens, and often technically more equipped than electric stoves of the same group. This is quite natural, since the price of the stove is made up of the cost of the oven and the hob. Considering the current trend towards glass-ceramic surfaces, the price increase for slabs is obvious.
But do not forget that you will also have to buy a hob for the built-in oven. In this price group, you can find built-in ovens from such expensive manufacturers as AEG, Kuppersbusch, Siemens. They cost from $ 700 and have up to nine heating modes. In the middle price group there are ovens that, in addition to multifunctionality, have an "electronic mind" and can "independently" cook a different number of dishes.
The most expensive Ariston ovens ($ 750- 885) have Smart Cooking and 15 recipes in electronic memory. Bosch ovens cost $ 550-650 are equipped with a fan, and models for $ 900 have a ring heater on the back wall and in addition, they "remember" 24 automatic cooking programs.
An interesting oven in this price group is offered by Siemens (model HB 77L55EH). This is an oven of a small volume 34 l with a microwave function. It is even difficult to understand if this is a small oven with a microwave or just a large microwave oven. Manufacturers call this device an oven, which is why we attributed it to this group. The main feature of this oven is the presence of a quartz grill, which is usually used in microwave ovens. Its main advantages are faster and more uniform frying of the dish. The use of this grill in this oven is conditioned by its purpose - quick preparation of meals.

A thousand is not the limit

The ranges of the high price group are distinguished, first of all, by their convenient control, the presence of an electronic timer and changing heating zones on the hobs. In addition, stove-top ovens can be equipped with self-cleaning systems. As for the functionality of ovens, it does not increase in all models and not in all manufacturers. For example, the Gorenje stoves have as many oven functions in the most expensive models as in the $ 700 stoves. Bosch cookers, on the contrary, in addition to the Comfort multifunctional oven, also have 20 automatic cooking programs that allow you to cook according to specific recipes with guaranteed results and with minimal human intervention. The Kaiser C602 / 848TrkDSrbf is equipped with an oven with 12 heating modes.
There are not many expensive solo slabs on the market, and their number is gradually decreasing. This is due to the orientation of manufacturers and buyers towards built-in appliances. Built-in ovens in this category (from $ 1100) usually have a maximum number of heating modes, including a large number of additional ones. In addition, ovens in this price range often have steam cooking functions (AEG, Electrolux, Miele) or the ability to cook with microwaves (Ariston, Miele, Bosch, etc.). Naturally, in addition to multifunctionality, such expensive ovens are often equipped with pyrolysis, almost all have touch controls and a well-thought-out security system.
Most ovens in this price range have the maximum amount of electronics. Many ovens are able to work practically without the participation of a person who can only put prepared food on a baking sheet, press the buttons and after a while take out the finished dish. Some Miele models even have special sensors that allow you to monitor the process with extraordinary precision. This is how the oxygen sensor determines the amount of this gas in the working chamber.If there is a lot of oxygen, it means that the dish is not ready yet, if its amount decreases, then it remains to wait quite a bit. The humidity sensor regulates the direction and intensity of the air currents, which affect the overall humidity inside the oven.

Keti
Part 2

Special programs
Almost all manufacturers offer one or more exclusive oven operating modes in their most sophisticated and expensive models. First of all, this is heating food or keeping them hot at 80 ° C. In this case, the upper and lower heating elements work simultaneously or in turn. The heating elements turn on when the temperature drops and automatically turn off when the set number of degrees is reached. This function is found in AEG, Candy, Electrolux ovens, in some Wirlpool models the temperature in the oven is automatically maintained at 60 ° C.
Ariston offers “Fast cooking” mode, in which all heating elements and the fan are on. This mode is recommended for quick preparation of semi-finished and fresh food. This mode has something in common with the "fast heating" function from Bosch, "automatic boiling" from Miele, etc. The "Fast cooking" function provides for the simultaneous activation of all heaters in the oven, so that the air in it heats up as quickly as possible. When a certain temperature is reached, the oven automatically switches to the operating mode you set in advance. This is necessary so that juice does not flow out of the meat. When exposed to high temperatures, the food is immediately crusty on the outside, and then, at a lower temperature, baked completely, remaining juicy on the inside.
German manufacturers delight and surprise with special functions in their ovens. So in the new Bosch ovens there is a special top / bottom heat mode. This function is especially suitable for baking bread and yeast dough, as well as for preparing frozen food. In this mode, the moisture in the food is retained and the baked goods do not dry out. True, the company does not disclose the details of the process, keeping its know-how.
There are especially many finds in the ovens of the Gaggenau trademark. First of all, in some models it is possible to adjust the heating of individual heaters in the traditional mode (top + bottom). The power of the upper or lower heaters can be set by only 1/3 and thus the higher temperature zone can be changed depending on the type of food and its quantity. A special fermentation program maintains the temperature at 38 ° C so that homemade yeast dough rises well.

What to choose
When buying a stove, not every housewife knows exactly how many modes she will use. Some buy "fancy" models because they are fashionable, others - because they have one of their friends. But the hostess today must seriously think about what she wants to get from the new "stove". Sit down with a piece of paper and think: How often do you use the oven.
What dishes do you usually cook in the oven.
Do you like pizza.
Do you use the oven to heat food?
How limited your budget is.
The total number of modes of specific multifunctional ovens can be up to 12-14. Whether you all need them depends largely on the family's gastronomic preferences.

Interesting features of ovens from different manufacturers:
AEG - know how to use residual heat. In models of ovens with the possibility of steam cooking, a biofunction operates - cooking at low temperatures.
Candy — in the “keep food hot” mode, the upper and lower heaters in a number of ovens from this manufacturer are switched on alternately.
Electrolux offers a mode of keeping food hot at a temperature of 80 ° C.
Gaggenau — Some models have a special baking stone or cast iron roasting pan to fit in the oven.
Kuppersbusch - in some of its models offers automatic calculation of the cooking program depending on the weight of the product.
Miele - Ovens from this manufacturer can independently use the residual heat during cooking. That is, the oven is switched off before the final cooking of the food, which “reaches” due to the residual heat. In addition, some ovens weigh the food and use this to determine the time it takes to warm up, defrost or cook the food.
Siemens, Bosch — the new ovens from these manufacturers use the “special top / bottom heat” function, which maintains high humidity, which protects any baked goods from drying out.
Whirlpool - ovens from this manufacturer can automatically maintain a temperature of 35 ° C (for example, when making yeast dough) or 60 ° C for heating

Brand names of some modes used by different oven manufacturers:

Simultaneous operation of the upper and lower heating elements
Traditional - AEG, Candy, Gaggenau, Reeson, Zanussi, Mora
Classic - Bosch, Siemens, Gorenje, Hansa
Static - Ariston, Indesit, Whirlpool, Zigmund & Stain
Central Upper Heater Operation
Grill - AEG, Ardo, Ariston, Candy, Electrolux, Hansa, Indesit, Whirlpool
Grill "small area" - Gaggenau, Miele
Small grill - Zanussi
Small Vario Grill - Bosch, Siemens
Infranagrev - Gorenje
Simultaneous operation of two upper heaters
Large grill - AEG, Electrolux, Hansa, Miele, Zanussi
Large Vario Grill - Bosch, Siemens
Large area grill - Gaggenau
Double grill - Kaiser, Indesit
Maxi Grill - Whirlpool
Full Grill - Zigmund & Stain

Simultaneous grill and fan operation
Infrared oven - AEG
Forced convection grill - Ardo
Ventilated grill - Ariston
Convection Grill - Bosch
Upper heater + fan - Beko
Fan Grill - Candy, Kaiser, Miele, Mora
Volumetric turbo grill - Electrolux, Whirlpool, Zanussi
Infranheater + fan - Gorenje
Inlet grill - Indesit

Simultaneous operation of the fan and the rear (ring) heater
Multi-hot air - AEG
Forced convection cooking - Ardo
Confectionery oven - Ariston
3D - hot air - Bosch
Fan + turbo heater (turbo) - Beko
Air Cooking - Sandy
Circular heating / hot air circulation / hot air - electrolux
Ventilation heating - Gorenje
Convection - Gaggenau, Zanussi
Hot air - Miele
Thermal circulation - Reeson
Air ventilation - Whirlpool
Hot convection - Mora
Circular heater + blower - Kaiser
Bottom heater + ring heater + fan
Gourmet - hot air - AEG
Pizza - Ariston, Bosch, Electrolux, Kaiser, Zanussi
Super fast heat up - Gaggenau
Bottom heating + ventilation heating - Gorenje

Thermal circulation + bottom heating element - Reeson
Top + bottom heaters + fan
Solo Hot Air - AEG
Regular Quick Cooking - Ardo
Convection oven - Candy

Top + bottom + ring heaters + fan
Profi - hot air - AEG
Fast coocing - Ariston
Quick warm-up - Bosch, Miele
Pizza - Сandy
Ventilation heating + classic heating - Gorenje

10 practical tips for the buyer:
If you rarely cook and only the simplest dishes, then the most elementary oven with three or four cooking modes is enough for you.
If you cook often and a lot, take a look at multifunctional ovens.
If you fry meat, chicken, fish in large quantities, then you just need a grill, and even better, small and large.
If you bake a lot and prefer stewed rather than fried food, then your oven must have a fan, and even better if it has a ring heating element. In addition, the fan makes it possible to cook at lower temperatures, the oven heats up faster with it, and most importantly, the roast turns out to be juicy, and the pies are more fluffy. Especially economical ones should be reminded that an oven with a fan spends less energy and pays off faster.
If you love pizza, then you should make sure that your oven has a mode for its preparation.
Be careful when choosing a model. The total number of functions indicated in the instructions does not always correspond to the number of cooking modes. As an additional function, the lighting mode or the type of oven cleaning is sometimes indicated (the Aqua Clean function in Gorenje ovens is highlighted as a separate operating mode, but it is needed to clean the oven, not for cooking).
If you want to purchase a model with the maximum range of functions, then pay attention to built-in ovens. It is in this technique that the latest technical developments find their application; such a variety of functions is practically not found in free-standing plates.
Housewives who do not know how to cook can be recommended models whose electronic memory contains a number of automatic cooking programs for specific dishes.
If you are not limited in funds, then pay attention to the models with a variety of additional functions "quick heating", "automatic roasting", etc. They will reduce the time of your stay in the kitchen.
Brand names of ovens usually indicate the total number of oven operating modes, they need to be treated with some irony. It is clear that “7 chefs” will not come running to you, and beautiful and incomprehensible names often mean very simple things. For example, the 7 Cooks oven has seven cooking modes, while the MULTI8 brand name is nothing more than eight oven modes.
Shev4enko
Hello. Answer please. Is it possible to put a container of water on the bottom in an electric oven when baking, if possible, what is better?
TaTa *
The instructions say - do not put anything on the bottom, so as not to spoil the coating. And you really want to
lesik_l
You can put a grate on the lower level, a container with water on it, and a baking sheet on top.
Slastena
Help my friends choose between Beko OIM 25501 X and AEG B 5731 5 M ovens someone uses these firms, I found only two reviews about AEG on the internet and that's it
lesik_l
Quote: Slastena

Help my friends choose between Beko OIM 25501 X and AEG B 5731 5 M ovens someone uses these companies, I found only two reviews about AEG on the internet and that's it

Here, the decision should only be yours. Try to draw up a plate and write side by side what you like and dislike about these models, and then compare. Go to the store and look at them "live", maybe the questions will disappear right away
lyris
Hello everyone! All the time I sat in the "bushes", admired your creations, read the forum. But I had to identify myself. Help is very much needed! The headset is still in the project, but the equipment has already been bought and temporarily installed. Patience is over, I want to try the oven. My husband has no time. Can I plug an electric oven into a regular outlet? We now have AEG. Thanks in advance!
TaTa *
You can, if you are confident in your outlet and wiring, and if all this is old, it is better to hold a new branch for the oven.
Margit
Quote: lyris

Hello everyone! All the time I sat in the "bushes", admired your creations, read the forum. But I had to identify myself. Help is very much needed! The headset is still in the project, but the equipment has already been bought and temporarily installed. Patience is over, I want to try the oven. My husband has no time. Can I plug an electric oven into a regular outlet? We now have AEG. Thanks in advance!
Grounding is required! Do not turn it on without it. At my door. sisters almost had a fire for this reason, everything was knocked out and the wires caught fire. Now she, frightened by this, does not use the new oven at all, the Electrolux oven is in the kitchen as part of the interior and kitchen set.
TaTa *
I (like many) have a Soviet-built house in it, in principle, there is no grounding, nevertheless, all the devices work in all apartments. Fires happen if the old wiring breaks down and overheats or the connections are not strong, a spark occurs. Grounding prevents electrical damage. current. Do not use email at the same time. the device and for the battery or water pipe.
Margit
Oh, I don't even know what to say ... Well then, turn it on when your husband is at home, especially if for the first time. My sister's house is also old, solid, brick, and also without grounding.
Sonadora
Quote: Slastena

Help my friends choose between Beko OIM 25501 X and AEG B 5731 5 M ovens someone uses these firms, I found only two reviews about AEG on the internet and that's it
To choose between Veko and AEG is the same as between a Zaporozhets and a Mercedes. I am with both hands for the second option! And kicks too!
(I have a washing machine AEG, already 10 years old, my mother-in-law also bought AEG. We are happy as elephants.)

Quote: lyris

Hello everyone! All the time I sat in the "bushes", admired your creations, read the forum. But I had to identify myself. Help is very much needed! The headset is still in the project, but the equipment has already been bought and temporarily installed. Patience is over, I want to try the oven. My husband has no time. Can an electric oven be plugged into a regular outlet? We now have AEG. Thanks in advance!
And how much does it consume? In an amicable way, in addition to grounding, you need to pull a separate thick cable (so that it does not get warm when the oven is working) from the shield, as for a washing machine.
Slastena
Sonadora Thank you for the comparison * JOKINGLY * I think the Mercedes is always more reliable just somehow I did not come across AEG, I was looking for reviews on the oven, but they are not, where there are ovens there, of course, more expensive, just in our city they are hardly at all in the store , I wanted to know what kind of "beast" it is
P.S. I liked it too: girl_red: I'll go do some more research: girl_cleanglasses: repair if it's wrong
Sonadora
Slastena, AEG and Milli are the highest class in the line of household appliances, therefore there are few reviews, including negative ones. Look at reviews for other equipment from these companies.
I also like Gorenje Ora- Ito.
Slastena
The girls also found the SAMSUNG BFN 1351 T oven very much that it was possible to cook two dishes at the same time with different temperatures in it again entered a stupor ....... BEKO fell off SAMSUNG what to do now
Lyalya X
Quote: Slastena

Help my friends choose between Beko OIM 25501 X and AEG B 5731 5 M ovens someone uses these companies, I found only two reviews about AEG on the internet and that's it

Slastena, I have a Beko OIM 25501 X oven for 2 years, and the washing machine of the same company is 10 years old and not a single breakdown t-t-t. The oven suits me completely both in terms of baking quality and price.
Slastena
Lyalya X Thanks for the support, yesterday I went shopping with us, consulted with the sellers, by the way asked about the CENTURY, they said how lucky you can buy and be happy, or you can get a headache, but I feel a headache and I have already made them dream
Sonadora
Mustache! My patience has run out! I am starting to choose an electric built-in oven instead of the gas Electrolux (unless our skilled bakers save it).
Girls and boysDoes anyone have an oven with a microwave function, how convenient is that?
Rita
Quote: Sonadora

Mustache! My patience has run out! I am starting to choose an electric built-in oven instead of the gas Electrolux (unless our skilled bakers save it).
Girls and boysDoes anyone have an oven with a microwave function, how convenient is that?
I have a microwave oven with a Mulinex oven function - I do not recommend it. Whirlpool's daughter has this good one. But they have an oven only with convection.
Sonadora
Rita, the version of the microwave with convection or with an oven function is not my option. Baking buns on an industrial scale will not work. And what about a 20x20 baking sheet for my eaters?
It's just that such a thought crept in that if we were to change the oven, it could also eliminate the microwave as a class in the house ... We only use it to warm up a plate with lunch or water (when I bake bread).
trada
Maybe someone will say about this model Hotpoint-Ariston 7OFK 1039 EN X RU / HA LUCE?
tNotik
Quote: Sonadora

Girls and boysDoes anyone have an oven with a microwave function, how convenient is that?
I'm also wondering how convenient the function is or is it worth buying a microwave separately? Kohonka is small and of course I don't want unnecessary equipment, but I don’t know if it is convenient to warm a bowl of soup in the cupboard? Who uses, answer me, friends ...
Vanya28
Quote: Sonadora

Mustache! My patience has run out! I am starting to choose an electric built-in oven instead of the gas Electrolux (unless our skilled bakers save it).
Girls and boys, does anyone have an oven with a microwave functionhow convenient is it?

Quote: tNotik

I'm also wondering how convenient the function is or is it worth buying a microwave separately? Kohonka is small and of course I don't want unnecessary equipment, but I don’t know if it’s convenient to warm a bowl of soup in the cupboard? Who uses, answer me, friends ...

An excellent solution, but there is, but you need to know which model to actually buy, with which set and ratio of functions.
Now I will answer, but for now a counter question - since the kitchen is small, is there a simple oven or not? Will the building be built or not, a very important question for money as well? This option is very easy to do without a clean oven.

In a small kitchen, a 27-30 liter, programmable, external microwave oven with an oven function is a good solution, but there are not so many successful models on the market out of a wide variety.
One or two from Sharpe, two or three from Panasonic, Samsung would not consider at all, although it is well conceived and works, but the performance will not bring joy.
COGT
I really want email. oven, but before choosing, I want to clarify one question. Girls and boys, tell me how much electricity does this unit eat? It's just that the salaries in our city are small, you have to count the money, but you want to join civilization. It is very difficult to adjust the temperature in my gas stove. And I fell in love with the stove thanks to our forum!
Julia V
He eats a lot of electricity, something around 3 kWh. When we bought it, I started baking every day, and at the end of the month, as I looked at the counter, I stopped baking every day. Biscuit, for example, can be baked in MV. But on the other hand, an electric oven bakes much better than a gas one. When I used to want to bake a duck chicken in a gas oven, it was always a surprise what happened. There has never been a puncture in the electro. And baked Easter cakes this year, and everything is fine. Although they took the most inexpensive, Chinese oven, as they ordered a new kitchen and all the built-in appliances. And I was faced with a choice to buy it for 3000 UAH or leave an empty space and raise money. And since we have moved to a new house and the renovation is still not finished, we settled on the first option. Yesterday, by the way, I baked pizza on two baking trays, beauty, everything does not burn evenly anywhere.
COGT
Julia V, thank you for quick answer! I also use the oven often, then chicken, then meat, then some pastries, that's what strains the consumption of e-mail. energy. My gas oven bakes unevenly, on the one hand more, I have to turn in the process. There are no degrees on the thermometer, only points with numbers 1, 2, etc., I use a separate thermometer for baking, but it is impossible to adjust it, then more than necessary, then less. An electric oven would be very helpful, especially since we are going to make repairs in the kitchen, and at the same time change the stove. Here, as they say, you both want and inject
Julia V
So I had a gas one with divisions, and if you make more gas, the top is still white. Electric is much better, so I close my eyes to the extra 100 kWh
Vanya28
I considered an unexpected topic of saving electricity while reading.
It's sad, of course.
He promised to write in more detail in the previous post, but he did not intend to.
So, electricity savings, among other advantages, are provided by microwave ovens with a good oven function.
Power function oven 1.5 - 2 kW
Microwave power 850 W
Savings increase when cooking (baking) in the oven also due to the acceleration of heating,
adding 10-30% of microwave energy, so a piece of beef 1.5 kg is baked in 50 minutes.
Count your money!
If you show interest, write.
Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

Interest was shown, very much even shown! Maybe you can also recommend a microwave oven? Which one is better to choose?

Well, just not a microwave, but a microwave with an oven function, this is not the same thing.
In the meantime, write, at least size and how much money you need to spend.
The cheapest option, external and with a volume of 27 liters.
I'll look at the new models a little later, I'll write, but as madam writes above, there are many unsuccessful decisions, well, or she didn't figure it out.
In general terms, for now I will state, using the example of the not new Sharpe 777 for a long time - the price is 10-12 thousand rubles:
1. Programmable, up to 4 cooking steps.
2.Upper ten.
3. Lower heating element.
4. Convection heating.
5. Microwave.
6. Combined modes from the list above.
An example of roasting beef 1.5 kg.
1. Programming step 1 - combi mode,
oven temperature 200C + microwave mode 30% - 20 minutes.
2. We program step 2 - combi mode,
oven temperature 180C + microwave mode 10% - 30 minutes.
We hide all the meat with the filling in a baking bag, turn it on and go to work.
More or less like this!
Buckwheat porridge is prepared:
1. Groats - 250 ml.
2. Steep boiling water - 500 ml.
3. 1 step - Full microwave power - 2 min 20 sec.
4. Step 2 - The minimum microwave power is 7 minutes.
5.3 step - Average microwave power - 8 minutes
A toothpick under the lid of a glass saucepan and perfectly boiled porridge is ready.

Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

Thank you! I went in search (to the internet)

Sharp R-8772N is a new watch model, you have to buy it.
Having a watch is very convenient.
Choosing a built-in oven
Everything else is more expensive, there is a good Panasonic, but it will be twice as expensive.
COGT
I would have a built-in kitchen 5m, nowhere to put. Here I look at what online stores offer, but the prices ...
Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

I would have a built-in kitchen 5m, nowhere to put. Here I look at what online stores offer, but the prices ...

Place it in the built-in place, or on a raised shelf. The stove is a separate panel.
A clean building with such characteristics is three, five or more times more expensive.
Just for a small kitchen - an oven, a microwave, and a grill, and warming up dinner.
Contradict yourself with the task.
COGT
Vanya28, but tell me, please, does the presence of the lower grill and convection play a big role? I just never came across this, I don't know what it gives? Affordable stoves do not have them.
Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

Vanya28, but tell me, please, does the presence of the lower grill and convection play a big role? I just never came across this, I don't know what it gives? Affordable stoves do not have them.

Of course, large, it's like in a regular oven, top and bottom heating.
It is good to bake on convection without scorching.
Shadows will give a crust, top or bottom.
Microwave accelerates heating, bread baking will be 40% faster, it also saves electricity.
Plus, each mode can be assigned to a separate cooking step and so on up to 4 different steps for one dish.
Many simply do not know this and make the wrong choice.
Well, for example, a microwave oven with an upper grill and without programming, just thrown away money.
COGT
I see, thanks, explained very clearly. So I'm looking for with two grills and convection. And another question, how much volume is needed for the form to enter 28cm?
Vanya28
On convection, this oven dries 8 orange-sized meringues in 4-5 hours just like in a pharmacy.
Think about it!
Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

I see, thanks, explained very clearly. So I'm looking for with two grills and convection. And another question, how much volume is needed for the form to enter 28cm?

Turntable diameter, cm / Material 32.5cm / Metal
Two more barbecue grills.

A loaf of several kilograms is baked in an ordinary glass saucepan of 5-6 liters and with a toothpick under the lid.

In this price range, there is nothing decent anymore, except for the 40 liter Samsung, but I do not advise taking it from personal experience.
COGT
Choosing a built-in ovenDaewoo Electronics KOC-1C0K Like this one?
Vanya28
Yes, on convection or on grills without microwave, you can remove the turntable and then your two forms will enter.
COGT
But I did not find the bottom grill in any of them, in this one too. It is important? (Forgive me, for God's sake, for torturing you, but I can't figure it out myself)
Vanya28
Quote: KOGotok

But I did not find the bottom grill in any of them, in this one too. It is important? (Forgive me, for God's sake, for torturing you, but I can't figure it out myself)

Daewoo has this KOC-8H6T external without a lower grill
in addition to the lower grill, there is still the possibility of programming by cooking steps or not, temperature selection and much more.
Send instructions from the devices, I will comment.
tNotik
Quote: Vanya28

An excellent solution, but there is, but you need to know which model to actually buy, with which set and ratio of functions.
Now I will answer, but for now a counter question - since the kitchen is small, is there a simple oven or not? Will the building be built or not, a very important question for money as well? This option is very easy to do without a clean oven.
As long as there is only an old slab, ONE, a little younger than me
It is planned to have a built-in independent oven and an independent hob. While in search ...
triyxa
Tell me, I choose between Gorenje and Korting. They say this is the same company. I did not find any reviews for Korting. Gorenje is a good technique. I don’t know what to do ... It seems like I liked Korting more ... Does anyone have a technique from this manufacturer? Help me decide!
I didn't understand about cooling the case in Kortinge - does it get very hot?
Olex
Hello. also preoccupied with choosing the kitchen. I like Samsungi elektro - BQ1VD6T2 or BTS14D4T (the first is a little expensive, the surface will be gas) and Ardo D 662 RCRS gas stove
The fact. that we have a short-term shutdown. or just the blinking of electricity (I wonder how the oven keeps the settings. or not?) Gas is always there. but like gas ovens for baking are worse. I've already broken my whole head ... Again. Samsung can bake in half the volume and save electricity. But gas is more suitable for me in appearance ... And you need to think quickly. since we will order furniture. and you need to plan right away.
Can someone tell me what. I will be very grateful
Olex
Quote: Olex

Hello. also preoccupied with choosing the kitchen. Like Samsung - BQ1VD6T2 or BTS14D4T
Since the gas has disappeared, I continue to think between the Samsung. I really like double cooking. as it rolls over me, I want to cook everything at once, can anyone have such?.
Gypsy
Is double cooking like two ovens? Can you insert a picture? It seems to me that such ovens are accepted in the USA and Israel, where there are many Jews who observe kosher
Olex
Quote: gypsy

Is double cooking like two ovens?

Built-in oven Samsung BTS14D4T


Dimensions and weight

Net weight 39 kg.
Gross weight 44 kg.
Number of sets 72/153
Chamber dimensions: 464 x 370 x 410 mm
Chamber dimensions: 435 x (U160, L170) x 400mm top / bottom
Dimensions without packaging: 595 x 595 x 572 mm
Built-in dimensions: 560 x 570 x 550 mm
Dimensions without packaging: 700 x 750 x 700 mm
65 liters usable volume
Dimensions 430 x 360 x 400 mm
Upper / lower cavity volumes: 30L / 32L

Features:

Chamber walls coated with ceramic enamel
1600 watts / 1100 Watt Top grill
Lower grill + Convection
Single chamber mode (convection)
Single chamber mode (small grill)
Top heater + Convection
Hidden Child Lock
Color: Stainless steel
Lower grill 1100 W.
Downward-swinging door
1 light bulb 25W.
Timer
Lamp lighting position: Rear
Auto Cooking: Auto Menu
Lighting lamp
Sound signal

Performance characteristics

Temperature range (one chamber / bottom / top / two chambers): 40 - 270 ℃
Energy efficiency class: А / AAA

Cleaning

Steam cleaning

general information

Built-in oven
Clock
Convection (top / bottom): 1200 W / 1200 W / Convection top / bottom of the chamber
Cooking timer
Clock and digital dual touch display
Catalytic + Steam Cleaning

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2 Lattices
2 baking trays
Telescopic guides
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