Choosing a built-in oven

Margit, I rummaged through the internet magician. and did not find the oven series HBN3807 BOSCH Does your oven come with this particular number or another?

I am also going to change my microwave to a more modern one. My Whirlpool is already 9 years old, they bought very expensive for those times. At first I wanted a combined one with a microwave, but my husband balked, he says that there is no more unreliable technique than a combined one. He gave a bunch of examples, in general - he convinced! I will take (over time) a separate microwave oven, but also dependent and similar to my oven.

[Margit]

Margit, of course, separate appliances are better, if one is broken, then the second works .. But I have a kitchen of 8 sq. m, I want maximum space, and not crowded with drawers .. I don’t want to build in at the top, it’s problematic to take out a plate of soup .. below there is one free space for a built-in ... except perhaps in a corner on the work surface to put a micra, but I don't want to, it's a work surface, albeit in the corner .. This combined space would free up great space .. but will it replace a normal oven? We love cheesecake buns
By the way, Gorenya soon chose her former gas stove with a grill, and for a year and a half I have never tried it .. Either it’s not a hunt to wash the oven afterwards, or the meat from a multicooker suits ... but how did this glill want ..

[lega]

then these guides were splattered with grease. She took off, began to wash. It turned out to be a difficult task, but I managed only from above, and something began to jam inside the telescopes. In short, these guides began to extend with effort and a terrible grinding. I suffered, suffered with them, and then I took the WD-40, washed all the guides, burned it out in the oven (there was enough fumes) and so far everything works well and I'm happy again.

lega, and have not tried shumanite? He has to cope at once.

[lega]

lega, and have not tried shumanite? He has to cope at once.

It was after the cleaning by Shumanite that the runners began to seize and a grinding sound appeared, especially in a heated state. Outside, "once" everything was cleared, but the inner runners did not like this cleaning. Had to use WD40 (sliders only). But this is my story, I don’t know about others, and I’m not dissuading anyone from telescopes. They are standing there, although I can change them to simple guides at any time. Telescopes were purchased in addition to the standard equipment.

This is not the first time I have met this word Shumanit on the forum, I looked in the internet, it is allegedly written by an Israeli company BAGI .. girls, I did not find such a company with us, Google only dug up terrorists

[nut]

Thanks Margit, great model, congratulations on such a purchase. I didn't find the steam function in the description, is it there? well, this is not to put basins of water

Thank you, nut!
A drop is drawn in the middle of the top - bottom heat icon, this is a special program for baking with steam.

[Margit]

Margit , your oven haunts me where to find such in Ukraine?
Or already take with microwaves? ..

[Margit]

Margit , your oven haunts me where to find such in Ukraine?
Or already take with microwaves? ..

Sofim, You are not necessarily looking for someone like mine, the choice is huge, choose by functionality. And, preferably, made in Germany. You can't go wrong. When the slab was delivered to us, the movers were hardly carrying the box, the husband asked: - What, is it very heavy? They replied: - "Yeah! Only the Boshi are such heavyweights." I think that this suggests that quality goods are produced in Germany.
At the weekend I was in the Media Markt store, tried on the dishwasher and induction, at the same time examined the ovens. There are many ovens, like I have, but the NVA series, they are practically the same in functionality.Do not rush, whoever seeks will always find! Good luck to you!

Please help me with a choice - which one to prefer: an oven with a temperature probe or with telescopic guides?
(both Electrolux ovens, all other functions are the same)
Thank you.

Please help me with a choice - which one to prefer: an oven with a temperature probe or with telescopic guides?
(both Electrolux ovens, all other functions are the same)
Thank you.

And how do they differ in price?
The temperature probe can be bought quite inexpensively, but telescopes are oh so expensive.

The difference is 1500 rubles.

Be sure to choose an oven with telescopic rails, and the core temperature probe can be purchased later at the service center.
I wanted to order telescopes for my oven, at the service center they told me the price - 15 thousand. Nice, right?

There is a built-in temperature probe and a display, you can't buy it later. Models EOB63300X and EOB64100X.

There is a built-in temperature probe and a display, you can't buy it later. Models EOB63300X and EOB64100X.

So they are still different. You wrote that they differ only in the temperature probe and the telescope. In any case, the choice is yours. Adapt to any oven and get used to it. Good luck with your choice!

Or maybe you can recommend more oven variations. I chose the dishwasher BOSCH SMV 53M10EU, cooking-ELECTROLUX ЕНD60020P, but I can't decide on the oven.

I would also choose 64100. Telescopic guides can be purchased later, but it would be better if the telescopic probe is built in right away. In addition, the color of this oven is aluminum, it is more practical (fingerprints are not so noticeable on it). I have a stainless steel oven with telescopes (they sometimes jam when hot).

Or maybe you can recommend more oven variations. I chose the dishwasher BOSCH SMV 53M10EU, cooking-ELECTROLUX END60020P, but I can't decide on the oven.

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[Bellers]

In addition, the color of this oven is aluminum, it is more practical (fingerprints are not so noticeable on it).

I read in the instructions for such ovens, where the manufacturer himself warns that drops from juices and something else leave indelible stains.

Maybe the Israeli women will be interested to know, I dug up here that our stoves Bellers, which have good reviews (I looked after myself), these are stoves Gorenje in the CIS.
As an example:

Gorenje B7460E

I read in the instructions for such ovens, where the manufacturer himself warns that drops from juices and something else leave indelible stains.

I don't know for sure about ovens, I'm trying to draw an analogy with email. teapots. I had a Simens kettle, I didn't know grief with it for 7 years. All splashes and stains were washed off at once. And now Braun is made of stainless steel, so you don't have time to wipe off fingerprints. The same story with the refrigerator and oven. Only Chromol saves, but it is expensive (lasts for a long time) and buying it is a problem. Unfortunately, I don't risk treating the kettle with it, I'm afraid that when boiling it will smell.

The stainless steel should be chosen not smooth, but with dashes, such as where they write that it does not leave stains from the fingers .. and it seems like something to touch the oven, then, in the same place, I opened the handle, if only the children are small in the house, and so it seems to me not critical ...

[zvezda]

zvezda, what kind of oven do you have and which manufacturer do you prefer?
And this oven is not cheap, yes. But it seems to be worth it.

I am a Kaiser, but a stove, but now I will change ... I will sell it, but I will take only one oven ... while I looked at this ..

Built-in electric oven Siemens HB 86 K 572

Dimensions: 45.4x59.5x53.1 cm
Niche dimensions for embedding: 45x56x55 cm
Volume: 42 l
Grill: yes
Convection: yes
Timer: yes
Oven light: yes
Self-cleaning: ecoClean (back panel + ceiling), titanGlanz enamel

Cooking modes:
3D hot air
Hot air
Top / bottom heating
Intense heating
Bottom heat
Convection grill
Grill, large area
Grill, small area
Gentle cooking
Preheating
Keeping warm
11 standard heating modes + microwaves
70 automatic programs, cookControl

Additional Information:
Power consumption: 3.6 kW
5 microwave power levels: 900 W, 600 W, 360 W, 180 W, 90 W
LightControl, text display
3-step cooking
Illuminated flush switch
Automatic fast heating
Halogen lighting

The volume is too small, 42 liters, I think. But the taste and color, as they say. I also really like Bosches and Siemens.

zvezda, Is this a choice because there is a microwave in it?

stainless steel should be chosen not smooth, but with dashes, such as where they write that it does not leave stains from the fingers .. and it seems like something to touch the oven, then, in the same place, I opened the handle, closed it, if only the children are small in the house, and so it seems to me not critical ...

I have just such a stainless steel, but practice (unlike theory) shows that it only slightly facilitates, but does not save. All adults in the house and everything has pens, but there are plenty of traces. I love my technique, just when a person buys, he must understand what he will face in the future.I do not know the ideal solutions, it all depends on what to pay more attention to. For me, reliability and durability are more important, therefore, the Coopersbusch and Liebherr equipment is in stainless steel, but this does not mean that I do not see minor imperfections.

zvezda, is this a choice because there is a microwave in it?

It's just that a microwave is needed, it seems like I'm used to it, but I'll kill two birds with one stone .... I'll also eliminate my microwave, and then the oven will take only one place ... instead of 2 units there will be one !!!

It's just that a microwave is needed, it seems like I'm used to it, but I'll kill two birds with one stone .... I'll also eliminate my microwave, and then the oven will take only one place ... instead of 2 units there will be one !!!

I agree, this is very convenient, this oven is also smaller in volume. The price is really biting, and why do they not lower the prices for such stoves .. I would choose this one, but it’s unprofitable for me, and the old expensive mikra is still fumbling.

It is better to choose models for which the glass is not very hot. So that you can touch it from the outside. This is good for those who love to bake and cannot resist even in such heat.

Mila007, do you mean 3 glasses, not 2?

I have three glasses, I bake every day, the stove heats up slightly, and the door is just warm to the touch. But there are also ovens with 4 glasses.

Mila007, do you mean 3 glasses, not 2?

yes with three, but there are also two, in which the glass is also slightly heated. And the kitchen, respectively, too.

And my "kitchen heating" is due to external blowing of the built-in oven. Drives away warm air and becomes warm.

Margit if I'm not mistaken you have a BOSCH HBN 380751 oven? If you have something, please share your impressions of her and I'm also interested in the pace. scoreboard - does it show the current temperature or the one that is set? I now have an oven in which I turn the knob and set it on a certain line, and under this line there is, for example, 200 * and I do not know when it will heat up these 200 *. I hope I clearly explained what I want. Tomorrow we are going to order the kitchen and my husband just demanded to decide on the oven And one more thing - I was here wool about this particular model and found a set of retractable runners for her price 3.500r, but where I saw it lost, now I will look, but not 15.000r it exactly

[nut]

Margit if I'm not mistaken you have a BOSCH HBN 380751 oven? If you have something, please share your impressions of her and I'm also interested in the pace. scoreboard - does it show the current temperature or the one that is set? I now have an oven in which I turn the knob and set it on a certain line, and under this line there is, for example, 200 * and I do not know when it will heat up these 200 *. I hope I clearly explained what I want. Tomorrow we are going to order the kitchen and my husband just demanded to decide on the oven And one more thing - I was here wool about this particular model and found a set of retractable runners for her price 3.500r, but where I saw it lost, now I will look, but not 15.000r it exactly

nut
Irina, I really like the oven, only recently I became familiar with it. This is a 2007 model. The temperature shows the one that is at the moment if you press the corresponding button on the display (the uppermost one on the left), you can also see on the display whether T has reached the set value.
But maybe, if there is an opportunity, it will be cheaper to buy a model with pyrolysis and runners right away than to buy it separately.

I want to rehabilitate my oven.
For a long time I could not understand why my bread and pies are not baked in aluminum molds, they are not made of stainless steel, the heat rays should not seem to be reflected. I complained here, I complained here, but the cart would still be there!

Hello Ritulya: flowers: I found your oven only at two companies, the price is up to 34t. R. Probably I will stop at it, because it also has a function with steam, and with a parolysis and runners, the prices are too biting.I have a Kaiser oven for 5 years, during which time I cleaned it inside 4 times not because I was an asshole there what, and there inside the roofing felts some kind of special enamel, or something else (it is not indicated in the passport), but inside it is clean. Last week I sprayed it with shumanite and it is like new again, in general, it suits me completely, if only the pace. pointed out And a new one should be in a new apartment, yesterday the kitchen was ordered by Forem, in short, the head is spinning, so much is needed - an apartment from scratch, bare walls, all the dirty work has already been done and now the main thing is how to make a bathroom, what tiles, what wallpapers, etc. etc. etc. In short kaaaraaauul
And your bread is just a feast for the eyes, I envy white envy. By the way, the second time I baked bread in my own form, which I showed in the topic, so the top was also fried, and the sides and bottom were completely white, like raw dough - they are apparently not suitable for baking

[nut]

nut
Irina, but I think, where do small black crumbs come from in my oven, tough to the touch, after all, nothing spills in the oven, does not spill out. It means that just splashes from the walls then crumble in the form of these crumbs, the enamel coating is eco clean, to be honest, I do not know for sure what kind of enamel it is, and how to handle it, I just guess. Apparently the enamel is acid-resistant, since you write that you can clean it with Shumanite, but this is a very strong acid-containing gel. I have never cleaned the oven, only wiped it with a damp cloth a couple of times.

Margit, for your oven they write you need to put a tray or baking sheet with water and turn on the oven to the maximum, then wipe it with a rag. Like the dirt itself will fall off

Guard! Help! The husband gave a couple of days to choose an oven + stove, read all 15 pages at a run, did not understand anything. Purely Chinese writing. There is no accidental rating for ovens, as Elena Bo did for HP? I realized one thing, you need to take with pyrolysis.

I made my choice, but I haven't bought it yet. BOSCH 38U750: flowers: Look at this model, Ritul, manager. said that this is a new model of your oven with some additions (runners, etc.)

All three !!! I'm new here, not yet familiar with all the pages, but can someone tell me if there are ovens with the function of blowing air, that is, like in AG? And then I still want AH, and my husband says I need to buy an oven. So if there was an oven with such a function, I would not even think about it - they would buy an oven, and if not, then definitely AG, and only then the oven.

You are probably asking about the convection oven? There are such! And you can bake on two levels at the same time by turning on the airflow (convection). Pies can be baked 2 baking sheets at once. Energy savings are obtained. And they are so beautiful and ruddy!

[Mila007]

Thank you Mila007 great for your answer. I know about convection ovens and have even seen enough of one
Oven Electrolux EOB33100X

Oven type What is "Oven type"
electric
Color What is "Color"
stainless steel
Control and indication
Management What is "Management"
electronic
Timer What is "Timer"
Yes
Oven
Installation Type What is Installation Type
independent
Volume What is "Volume"
58 l
Cleaning What is "Cleaning"
manual
Convection What is "Convection"
Yes
Grill Power What is Grill Power
3,000 watts
Thermostat
No
Oven door What is "Oven door"
folding
The number of oven door glasses What is the "Number of oven door glasses"
2
Cooling Fan What is "Cooling Fan"
Yes
Skewer
No
Optional accessories What is "Optional accessories"
No
Drawer for dishes and accessories What is "Drawer for dishes and accessories"
No
Oven operating modes
Number of operating modes What is "Number of operating modes"
6
Grill What is "Grill"
Yes electric
Overall dimensions
Height What is "Height"
59.4 cm
Width What is "Width"
59.4 cm
Depth What is "Depth"
56.7 cm
Weight What is "Weight"
31 kg

but then another question - why is it impossible to smoke in ovens, but in AG it is possible? the principle is the same or not?

I don't know anything about AG
This unit is not familiar to me. And I don't know how the AG works. If you + also need smoking for baking, then the oven, of course, will not work. And if you just need a ruddy baked crust, then the convection oven is just wonderful!
And about AG you may be answered by someone who has it

[ryjyk80]

ryjyk80 there are such ovens, but not really, but the price is from 40,000 !!!

I don't know anything about AG
This unit is not familiar to me. And I don't know how the AG works.If you + also need smoking for baking, then the oven, of course, will not work. And if you just need a ruddy baked crust, then the convection oven is just wonderful!
And about AG you may be answered by someone who has it

Yeah, clear and thank you again. I’ll think because I want to make baked goods and smoke. What kind of oven do you have? And how do you like it at work?

[Star]

Star thanks for the big answer. Can you tell me what kind of models and why are they so expensive?

Yeah, clear and thank you again. I’ll think because I want to make baked goods and smoke. What kind of oven do you have? And how do you like it at work?

The side walls are not dirty. Everything is baked perfectly. There are functions: convection, quick heating of the oven (in 1 min.), Grill, baking as in the oven (good for pizza). In general, I'm happy

Are there any ovens with the function of blowing air, that is, of the type as in AG?

Yes, I have one. I bought it in Ikea. It was not expensive. You need to look for the thermal ventilation function. Just take it with pyrolysis, because it will splash very strongly.

Thank you so much for the hint, but only we didn’t find them, and we don’t have Ikea either. All links thrown out by Google point to Russia or Ukraine. You will probably have to do with an ordinary oven, or rather with convection and grill, or buy AG all the same.