Sofa
Thank you very much. I am very, very grateful to you. I was very much at a loss as to what I bought that I can't even find instructions in Russian. did not disappoint. I just didn't see the link the first time. Thanks again.
Bijou
Quote: Sofa
I just didn't see the link the first time
Ah, got it. They just insist that the links be hidden under the spoiler. Then the pages for everyone and everywhere are displayed correctly.
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Thanks again.

Successful use! The oven, I see, is heaped up!
orionka
Sofa, and how do you like the oven? I also look at Indesit, but there are very few reviews.
Sweetheart
brain blown up. I was driving for a white hob and wanted an ELECTROLUX EOB93434AW. but saw AEG BER451110B. yes with a discount of 10 thousand ... but then the panel is black? I didn't want to
Tanya-Fanya
Sweetheart, and did not figure out a cooktop made of stainless steel? Maybe you have stainless steel handles?
Sweetheart
Tanya-Fanya, I took a white electrolux a little simpler, that electrolux turned out to be just a display case. and the panel hefest white
Tanya-Fanya
Sweetheart, let the new helpers delight and inspire new culinary feats!
Wit
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Can you please tell someone has an oven with a height of 45 cm and a width of 60?

M, I have one. Built-in oven Beko BCM 12300 X. But 48 l. Everything fits. But you still need to look for him. The price is attractive in the presence of bells and whistles, like the others, but which are almost twice as expensive.

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Electrolux EVK 95840 AX.
I looked at this electrolux. Tyuyuyu, for what such money ?! Mine is three times cheaper with the same bells and whistles and dimensions, and the volume is 5 liters. more.
optimist
Vitaly,: girl-yes: Stands like a spaceship!
Wit
And my 13tyr with a small tail.
optimist
I have an Electrolux over 18, I cannot say that it is unpretentious, just without self-cleaning.
Wit
Quote: optimist
I can't say that it's simple, just without self-cleaning
And mine.
Sweetheart
Tanya-Fanya, Thank you! I'd rather try it) but the gas was not connected
Ushki
Good day! Girls, tell us who has which oven? ... pros and cons, what should you pay special attention to? ... made repairs in the kitchen, it remains only to choose the oven. We decided that there must be pyrolysis, we also want telescopic guides ... and from the firms we considered Siemens, Bosch, Neff, Hansu more ... but I’m completely confused already ... in general, I need advice ...
Alycha
I ordered an electrolux with steam and self-cleaning. Hope to get it next week.
Ushki
Which model did you choose? I also thought about steam, but in the Siemens-Bosch line the prices are simply prohibitive for ovens with a steam function ...
Alycha
We have other models EOC5514AOX in it there is Plus Steam (judging by the descriptions it is OPEA4554X BI) and also looked at BOSCH, but in the end I settled on this, all the more the reviews from friends are not bad. I will receive - I will report
Ushki
Thanks, I'll wait)
OlgaGera
Virgin, I bought an oven. There is an interesting Shabbat mode there.
Neither T nor the time can be changed.
The default is T 60-100.
What to cook with this mode?
Tanya-Fanya
OlgaGera, that's what I found on the Internet. I think you will find more details in the instructions for your oven:

The practitioners of Judaism have prohibitions.
What is the Shabbat in the oven function? It allows you to celebrate Saturday without breaking the commandments, by maintaining a constant temperature for 3 days. This turns off the lamps, internal fan and display.
OlgaGera
Tatyana, it's all clear. Thank you. Ie.use only for heating ...

The instructions say the same thing. A couple of lines.
I learn purely intuitively)))
Tanya-Fanya
I think that you don't need this mode at all. Why drive the oven to warm up?
This mode is turned on for a day as long as the religious Saturday lasts, because at this time religious Jews cannot turn on or off electrical appliances.
In Israel, from Friday evening to Saturday evening, everything is turned off: elevators in hotels, restaurants are closed, they do not go to phones and do not call anyone themselves. And the food is prepared in advance, and so that it does not cool down, it is stored in the oven in this mode.




OlgaGera, better brag which oven? Brand, specification. Obviously one of the Germans ...
OlgaGera
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Obviously one of the Germans ..
No, Italian)))

SMEG mod.SF6922NPZ

I bought equipment for sale. Electric hob and oven.
I sell induction. My dishes are demagnetized (((
Ushki
Good day! We finally decided on the model of the oven, ordered it, they brought it to us yesterday ... and then we installed it in the column, turned it on for the first start, empty, everything is as in the instructions ... and then the fan began to hum ... and hum it was still an hour after the end of the mode, but it was humming like that ... as we understood it was the cooling fan ... but should the cooling fan make so much sound?
time
Ushki, I have a Neff oven and it also has a fan that hums when it cools. The first time, when there was no habit to the new sound, I decided that my oven did not turn off and pulled it out of the socket. Now I remember this with a smile, but then I thought it was defective. So, get used to it and after a couple of cooks you will stop noticing it.
Ushki
Time, I was also scared that it was a marriage, but it works, it heats up, today we turned on another mode, everything works, but this sound ... you can hear it in all the rooms ... in general, the cat and I are a little in shock .. . we are unlucky with sounds ... the hood is very noisy, now there's the oven too ... to be honest, I thought that the oven should be quiet enough ... but here
Tanya-Fanya
UshkiWhich oven did you buy in the end?
Ushki
Siemens HB 676 G5 S1




I really liked it in terms of functions) we also considered Siemens HB 675 G0 S1, or rather they wanted it, but it was not available, and as soon as it appeared on sale on Siemens HB 676 G5 S1 there was a very good discount, and we stopped at 676 ) well, just the sound of the cooling fan is not yet happy today we will try to cook)) let's see what we get ...
Tanya-Fanya
Ushki, such a beauty is your new confessor. And, judging by the description on the site, she is unusually smart.
For fun, I watched the video on YouTube - there is noise to the fans. After all, she already has 4D airflow, that is, powerful. The level of this noise is another matter ...
You need to look for owners of ovens of the same class, what they say about the noise. If I understand correctly, this is the IQ 700 series.
Ushki
I also watched a video on YouTube, I correspond with a young man, says the fan is buzzing, the vacuum cleaner is a little quieter than the vacuum cleaner works ... my husband says that our vacuum cleaner is no louder than the vacuum cleaner either)) well, in general, we'll try it out, put the chicken ... ... and now it seems to me not so noisy ... maybe the truth is just not familiar ...
Wit
For complete peace of mind, call the SC, you have every right. They will calm down there. The main thing is that the glass in the windows does not rattle.

Her, I decided to check. And so in terms of volume: 1-vacuum cleaner; 2 - a stream of water into an empty sink (stainless steel and apparently a tin); 3 - kettle in heating mode; 4 - hood at level "3"; 5 - oven ventilator in all modes. When the door is closed, the noise is two or three times quieter. But I don't have a Sim.
Jouravl
I have Siemens HB675GOS1, I didn’t even pay attention to the operation of the fan, which means that the noise didn’t irritate, if you are nearby, you can feel the airflow.
In general, the oven is very cool, it has so many programs and opportunities. Now, if it had not broken down three months after the warranty.
I brought it to Moscow, called another master, what will they say tomorrow ...
Wit
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then the noise was not annoying, if you are nearby, then you feel the airflow.
Exactly, Hope I became interested in the noise only after reading it, which makes a lot of noise and went to check. The results are higher. Blowing a little.
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Now, if it had not broken down three months after the warranty.
What a bastard! They have such a bourgeois policy. Back in the USSR, the bike went (or maybe it was). The farmer had two tractors: "Belarus" and Amerovsky. The farmer complains: "Here they came to repair 5 Soviet times under warranty. Now it has been working without breakdowns for the third year. And this Amerovsky year has worked like clockwork without a single breakdown, the warranty has ended and in the second month fell apart in pieces!"

Jouravl
Wit, I really hope that it will not fall apart. Made very high quality. Some kind of defect: possibly after pyrolysis
And about noise, it's useless to consult. Since the service is such, continuous negative reviews. By the way, I sent a complaint to their head office in St. Petersburg,
Wit

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Wit
Of course it won't fall apart. This is not an Amerovsky tractor. They will fix it and everything will be fine!
Boom waiting for results on a complaint
Ushki
We tried our handsome Siemens HB 676 G5 S1 - Semyon ... my husband called him that)) everything works fine, pah-pah, the chicken turned out to be amazing, the crust is golden ... in general, we are satisfied with the result, and in principle we are almost used to the fan noise cooling ... we turned on the hood for comparison, it is even louder ... so we decided to use it for now, well, if anything, contact the service center ...
Jouravl
Wit, Vitaly, we will! If we don't wait, we will write to Munich so that they know that they do not have a service in Russia




Ushki, let it work for a long time and please its owners.
Ushki
Thank you))
Mona1
Girls and boys. Tell me. I have an Electrolux with steam. Do I need to use this mode for baking Easter cakes. Does anyone have such experience?
Ushki
I really, really wanted an oven with steam ... just not an electrolux ... but in the Bosch Siemens line with steam, the prices are very high ...
I would use the steam function primarily for baking, including cakes, biscuits, cheesecakes ...
Tanya-Fanya
Mona1 - Tanya, I remember when choosing an oven I noticed that the electric suites have the ability to install an application with a cookbook. Maybe it contains similar recipes for baking muffins, then the recommended modes are indicated there.
Wit
I read the recipes for Easter cakes. Nowhere is it written that they must be baked in a steam oven. And what gives steam?
Mona1
Wit, steam for yeast baking is not served for the entire cycle, but for 15 minutes so that the top does not quickly become coarse from the temperature and the bread rises well. Then the steam is removed and then the crust has already gone to form. And the meat in a large piece or the whole chicken, for example, is also with steam, it seems they even write there - the whole baking cycle. The type turns out to be a ruddy chicken, and juicy inside. But I haven't tried it yet. I bought this oven exclusively for baking, and so - I also have my gas oven. While I bake meat and other sprinkling in it, I regret a new one. ))




Tanya-Fanya, Tanyusha, I have downloaded this application to my phone, but there are not as many recipes as I would like, in the Baking section there are only 7 or 8 recipes, there is no cake there.




The instructions for Electrolux rustled - there are no Easter cakes, but there is a Fruitcake and there is an Italian Christmas cake. With steam, they are done at 160 degrees. But they are there in the forms of 20 cm and 26 cm.
Wit
Thank you, Tanya! Got it.
Tanya-Fanya
Mona1, and yeast is a part of muffins?
Usually muffin dough is without yeast, high in fat, so it is all the more unclear why the muffin needs steam.
Either it's translation problems or it's such a wise oven. For example, tough Bosches have a bake level sensor.

Tanya, is there an automatic baking program in your oven? Maybe so we could have guessed to use steam in it or not. After all, Easter cake is a rich yeast dough, I would equate it with brioche, for example.
Mona1
Tanya-Fanya, I have no automatic programs, but there is in the instructions - brioches and sweet rolls can be baked with or without steam.I already baked small yeast buns with raisins, so very small, smaller than a tennis ball. I baked with and without steam, I didn't see much of a difference as a result .. But the pasties are larger, and I already put the buns in the preheated oven, and then the pasques will be parted in it and then baked in it, gradually warming up together with the oven. So I'll do it, pour water so that the steam lasts for 15 minutes, then usually - UP / BOTTOM without steam I will turn on.
Jouravl
Mona1, Tanya, here are Recipes for dishes with steam, there is a sponge cake, maybe this will help you
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And I pick up the oven, so I'm interested ...
Mona1
Jouravl, Nadia, thanks for the reference, I read it.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Mona1
I baked with and without steam, I didn't see much of a difference as a result .. But the pasties are larger, and I already put the buns in the preheated oven, and then the pasques will be parted in it and then baked in it, gradually warming up together with the oven. So I'll do it, pour water so that the steam lasts for 15 minutes, then usually - UP / BOTTOM without steam I will turn on.

Tanyusha, in comparison with the gas one, which was very dry, the electric oven keeps natural moisture from the dough, so they did not feel much difference, as I see it.
In Burning, I have a mode for proving the dough, and you probably do. It is heated from below 40 gr. I put the dough in tins, turn on this mode for only 10 minutes, that's enough, then the oven keeps heat. If you don’t find it at home, then do not forget to just turn on the light bulb for the entire proofing time.

I agree with you, let's try with steam! Do you have large molds? Steam should help. The main thing is not to overgrow the edges.
Awful wondering how this would work. Where will you report back then ??? 😂😂😂

Jouravl, a biscuit is not a muffin. Is it possible that the biscuit is also offered to be baked with steam? Why does a biscuit need steam? Interesting approach. Thanks for the information.
Jouravl
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Wit, Vitaly, we will! If we don't wait, we will write to Munich so that they know that they do not have a service in Russia
Well, today they called from the BSH service, yesterday I wrote a letter to the Munich office, and on March 30 a letter was sent to St. Petersburg. Silence, no answer. And today we are ready to send a courier and pick it up for repair. This oven has only been in production for two years and is new. Tomorrow they pick up, promise to repair.
I had a guy from another service, he took off the power supply and power supply, said that they work, and what is the reason for this defect they cannot understand and offered to bring them to them.
If it hadn't been for the kick from Germany, they wouldn't have done anything.

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