Ksyu-juha
LenaThank you very much for helping me figure it out, it became much clearer. , at least something to include on it when I read the recipes.
Svetta
I would read it differently.
Clockwise: steam cleaner or steamer, bottom heat without convection, defrost, convection without heat, convection with bottom heat, grill without convection, grill, heat top-bottom, light on.
Bijou
Quote: svetta
convection without heating
Why such a program?
Svetta
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Why such a program?
Why a light bulb?
Bijou
Quote: svetta
Why a light bulb?
Wash the oven.
Svetta
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Wash the oven.
Well then, convection without heating to dry the oven after washing.
Yarik
I have an Eco-cooking mode in my oven Burning: ring heater + fan, I have never used it. The type of electricity is saved. Maybe it's the same here?
Bijou
svetta, let's go from the other side.)
Hopefully it will be hard to argue that all ovens have a "light bulb" mode. And yes, I agree that the "convection without heating" mode is also the case for many. But why are there two at once ?? ))

It's funny about "drying the oven", yes. I wouldn't have thought of it. I wonder how people get out of the situation if they do not have "convection without heating"
Svetta
Lena, I am very confused about the light bulb mode. What is he doing? Just turns on the light and that's it? But then how to turn on this light when baking in a different mode in order to see the process? I do not have a separate light bulb mode, because it turns on with ANY turn on the oven. If I need to wash the oven, then I just turn it on and set the temperature to the minimum when the light is still on and the oven is not heating.
It is possible that in modern models there really is a separate inclusion of a light bulb, I do not know.
lira3003
It's not very clear what you are arguing about ... I have a separate light bulb mode. I turn it on not only to wash the oven, but also to prove the dough. I have a temperature of 50 just turns on
Svetta
I also turn on the oven from 50 degrees, but there is no light mode.
Ksyu-juha
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But then how to turn on this light when baking in a different mode in order to see the process?
I actually washed the oven in this mode, and did not think why it was needed, but the light is on in all modes too.




Quote: svetta
convection without heating
I don’t understand how? does it just work purely?
I finally got confused in these programs, but I tend to the first option, I need to check everything how I will bake.
If there is this ring heater, then the hot air comes from the fan, do I understand correctly?
And if convection, then the air simply drives inside, and how the top or bottom heats up, then does the hot air move?





Yesterday I was in the epicenter, then on one oven a black fan was signed with a ring ... I don't remember which company, I walked by and saw.
Bijou
Quote: svetta
but there is no light bulb mode.
Come on?! What is this miracle Yudo? ))
Quote: Ksyu-yuha
If there is this ring heater, then the hot air comes from the fan, do I understand correctly?
Not really. The fan draws in the air from the chamber, rather than blowing it out. But in any case, the air in the chamber heats up.

In modes where there is convection, but there is no heating, the machine will not even let you choose the temperature - try, for example, to set the degrees in the "Defrost" mode.

You promised to check the regimes. AND?)
Svetta
Quote: Bijou
Come on?! What is this miracle Yudo? ))
Lena, I have ARDO electric and 4 modes - top + bottom, top, bottom, grill. ALL! There is no separate light bulb! But the Agony oven!
Bijou
svettaembedded? Even modestly in terms of functions ...))
Svetta
Lena, yes, inline. Bought in 2007, as repairs were done. I took what was suitable for the money at that moment, there was no time to choose, the kitchen was running out. And a really good oven! At the moment, I only miss convection, I can do without everything else.
Bijou
Oh, my Lux is also 7 years old. True, there are already two bulbs in it, and there is even a separate mode (today I was just washing the oven and pondering how this could be done on a dark one, with a flashlight, or what?)

There are many programs in it, I use only two or three plus a "light bulb". And yes, I agree that it is difficult without convection, especially on small baked pastries, which sometimes have a pale appearance of barrels without convection. ((
Svetta
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It is difficult without convection, especially on small baked pastries, cookies, which sometimes have a pale appearance of barrels without convection. ((
Lena, everything is blushing! I need convection in order to put 2 prototypes at once, and not for ruddy on one.
I will show examples of my baking without convection

Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss


As you can see, even small cakes and cookies turn out to be more or less evenly ruddy. I say - Agon oven! albeit the simplest. Therefore, convection is not the main thing.
alena40
Quote: svetta
Lena, I have ARDO electric and 4 modes - top + bottom, top, bottom, grill. ALL! There is no separate light bulb! But the Agon oven!
svetta, I also have such an oven, but not an inset. And there is a separate light bulb mode. I also know the year of issue 2000.
Svetta
Girls, well, I'm not cheating, there is no light bulb mode, no!

Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Tanya-Fanya
svetta, gyyyy, who is talking about what, and I was hooked on the last photo with pies. These are the pies that are not sculpted, but cut with the palm of your hand? Where can I see the recipe?
Svetta
Tanya, type ammchiki in the search, there are a lot of photos, and my comments too.
Ksyu-juha
Quote: Bijou
You promised to check the regimes. AND?)
I just poklatsya them so far, we have good tension, I have not seen any jumps. It is necessary to make the dough and show, just a little runny nose, it didn't work out a little. But the girls will do everything and bring the report.






Quote: Bijou
In modes where there is convection, but there is no heating, the machine will not even let you choose the temperature - try, for example, to set the degrees in the "Defrost" mode.
And so I noticed, I feel completely illiterate
I turned on the defrosting mode - the fan just hums and the air drives, no temperature is set, and in the mode the black ventilator in the square is the same, nothing heats up and no heat movements.
And how does Defrost work then in the Oven? It's just that the air moves around the cell and that's it?
On the bottom mode and a light fan, when cooking chicken, I noticed that steam is actively coming out of the oven from behind, and on the bottom and black fan mode, there is almost no steam.
Probably, you need to bake pies on a light rotor, am I right?
Bijou
Quote: Ksyu-yuha
And how does Defrost work then in the Oven? It's just that the air moves around the cell and that's it?
Uh-huh. So it works.))
Quote: Ksyu-yuha
and in the mode, the black fan in the square is the same, nothing heats up and no movements of heat.
The rat. And what to do with it?
Quote: Ksyu-yuha
On the bottom mode and a light fan, when cooking chicken, I noticed that steam is actively coming out of the oven from behind, and on the bottom and black fan mode, there is almost no steam.
At the same degrees, products and cooking stages ?? Some nonsense ... Is there a "with steam" and "no steam" damper behind?

Quote: Ksyu-yuha
Probably, you need to bake pies on a light rotor, am I right?
Well, if you want to, why not? Personally, when baking, I usually use exclusively the classics top + bottom, and by convection I even out the color on the products in the last 5-10 minutes. Personally, I don't always like windy baked goods, although the same kurabies have nothing against, probably.))
alena40
svetta, I forgot, I still have a grill, i.e.string the chicken on a skewer and turn on the grill mode, it spins. It is visible in order to see the color of the chicken and light is needed.




svettaDoes your timer work? I broke down about 5 years ago ...
Svetta
alena40, I also have a grill with a spit. But after 2-3 times I got tired of washing the grill and oven and I no longer cook chicken like that.
And my light turns on in ANY mode, not only for the chicken. Does your grill work without light?
The timer is still working, but at the end of the time it does not always ring, so I set the timer to microwave.
alena40
svettaI need to check, because my light bulb burned out a couple of days ago. Not changed yet. And she burned with me in any mode. The timer also spins, but does not ring ...
Irina-Sanna
Hello, help me figure out my Maunfeld CEOD.656W oven. In the oven, the upper heating element is open and during baking, the top is always baked, let's say I bake a biscuit in the top-bottom mode, from the bottom the second level (this is the manufacturer's recommendation), the top burns in 35 minutes, I tried to cook less, but then it was raw, the only way out was, it was covered on top with paper, and cakes on Napoleon, the same thing, the edges are baked (become red), and the middle is light. Mom has a ten hidden in the oven, and for example, when baking Napoleon, the cakes are beautiful ruddy. I often make biscuit cakes, but because of such a problem, I have to bake a biscuit in a slow cooker. Tell me, maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Eneky
Baker friends, hello everyone! Question regarding the function of steam in ovens. Does anyone have it? I have an assumption that in such ovens steam and heat are retained much better, which is a big plus for us. Have you noticed this? I am faced with a choice, I do not know whether to overpay for the steam supply, given that I will not use it, I supply steam with a ladle.
Anchic
Tanya, I had a gas oven before the electric oven. Now electro without steam. So, in principle, steam and heat are retained in it better. I even burned my face regularly for the first time - I open the oven and immediately stick my nose into it, and a cloud of steam into my face. Even if it baked without steam. Now I got used to it and at first I open it, but I put my nose there in about 5 seconds. There was no such thing in gas - apparently, when the gas is burning, there must be good ventilation in order to remove the combustion products, and, in general, for the combustion process.
lira3003
Tanya, I also have no steam. I don't understand why overpay for something that is not initially needed? Anna, so I also tried to stick my nose at the wrong time
Igrig
Quote: Bijou
Hopefully it will be hard to argue that all ovens have a "light bulb" mode.
Although it's easy for me to argue, I won't!
I will just give you a fact: the Bosch installation - there is no such regime !!!
To wash the oven, it is enough to turn on any mode and do not touch the temperature regulator (leave it in the initial position) - there will be no heating.
The light is switched on automatically in all modes and is constantly on. But for those who are in need of saving money on electricity, I can only answer one thing: the light bulb is low-power, no more than 15 watts, the oven has about 3,000 watts, that is, 200 times less. Light bulb operation for 1 hour is equivalent to oven operation for 18 seconds! Now remember, which of us controls the oven every second? To put it another way, if you were late to turn off the oven for a minute, then the light bulb could burn on this energy for 3 hours and 20 minutes.

Quote: Bijou
I wonder how people get out of the situation if they do not have "convection without heating"
And here we follow the same algorithm!
Eneky
lira3003, Anchic, Thank you so much! So I'll just take a powerful one without steam. Now I have an electric old man, but I need a second one to help
Svetta
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take a powerful
How powerful is that? And what is the power in the oven for?
Eneky
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How powerful is that? And what is the power in the oven for?
one that heats up well, keeps and quickly builds up heat when a large number of blanks are placed in it (a lot like you have near your avatar), a good pizza needs a high temperature.And so that she does not always work at the limit of her capabilities
Svetta
Quote: Eneky
a lot like your avatar
I didn't understand something about the avatar)))
And so your thought is clear.
Graziella
Good evening! Please help me make a choice. It became necessary to choose an electric oven within the range of 50 thousand. It is necessary for home baking, baking meat and fish, without steam and microwave. Having shoveled mountains of information, I narrowed the circle to three firms: Bosch, Samsung, Electrolux with approximately the same set of functions and price range. And it stalled, even throw a coin. Tell me which one to take?
Rada-dms
Graziella, in my whole family, everyone has Bosch, everyone is happy. Outside the city, I have an Electrolux - a complex oven, I have to adjust, the bottom does not bake well, although it is very sophisticated. I personally always have in Bosch apartments, in recent years Neff. I'm happy with everyone!
Ketsal
Graziella, herself in the throes of choice. I went to a master class here from the grocery magazine. I tried to turn on this topic. After on the sidelines - said Whirlpool and Ariston - hotpoint, I'm happy with both
Masinen
Graziella, I have had ElectroDux with steam for a long time, I am very happy, here they bought an oven for my mother, chose between Neff and Electrolux, in the end they bought Electrolux without steam.
Mom is happy)

Graziella
Today I was in the store, talked with consultants, I realized that I will choose for another year!
Anchic
Elenawhat scared you? Maybe you don't need to communicate with consultants?
Masinen
Graziella, buy neff, excellent ovens, even the simplest ones.
Neff, this is Bosch-higher level., Premium league
It should be easier to approach the choice, as a result, there is an oven, a box with shades, well, the difference in temperature
230-300
Well, the display is necessary, not needed?
Functions - will you use it or not?
Steam-need, don't

Design)

It should be simpler, you shouldn't bother so much, there are less sellers in the store, they can only confuse))
AlisaS
Hello everyone!
In general, I chose the oven and settled on the Neff oven.
I study the instructions
Owners of Neff ovens and not only them, what types of heating do you use for baking bread (I want and will continue to bake according to old recipes with sourdough, our most beloved are Lace from Mistletoe) in a rectangular shape. In the instructions for hearth bread 1000g in a rectangular shape, it is recommended to use the CircoTherm gentle function and a temperature of 200-220 degrees, lasting 35-50 minutes. What is the best temperature to set?
Do not throw your slippers. This is my first experience with an electric oven.

And can it also be plugged into a regular socket or just a special socket for the stove?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Lott @
Girls tell me. As the product cools in the oven, condensation forms on the walls and glass. Should this be so or is it a defect?
Tanya-Fanya
Lott @, if you are talking about an electric oven, then the instructions for my electric combustion oven indicate that condensation in this case will be necessary. After turning off the electric oven, the cooling fan turns on. Therefore, it is suggested to leave the dish quite a bit to use the residual heat.
Igrig
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After turning off the electric oven, the cooling fan turns on
This fan works almost always, it cools the walls of the oven from overheating, so that the walls of the furniture that are in contact with the walls of the oven do not heat up.
About condensation: this is absolutely normal, remember the fogging of windows in the house, it's the same here. The walls are cooled, especially forcibly. And inside the oven, the temperature is much higher, and the humidity is quite high due to the release of water vapor from the product. It is this moisture that settles on the colder walls and glass.
If you remove food from the oven, there will be no condensation inside.
Paul @
Yes, the oven is electric. You can leave the dish for 15-20 minutes, eat longer, sweat. It just happens that you need to leave it for longer. Is this moisture critical for the oven? I understand the principle of cooling, but I won't ask anyone, no one sweats. Thank you calmed down.
Igrig
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I understand the principle of cooling, but I won't ask anyone,
They lie !!!
Even our thought cannot abolish the laws of physics!
My personal opinion - it is better not to leave! High humidity is not very good, or rather - very badly affects the metal unprotected by the coating, and this humidity is not only inside the oven, it is also inside the walls, where wires, metal parts, sensors, etc. Nobody will give you a guarantee that everywhere everything is protected as it should be. Corrosion of parts, electrical connections is possible ...

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