Anastasiay
Quote: Anna1957
Quote: Biju from 12 Sep. 2016, 14:10
if only because of the savings in electricity.
This is what excites me. But I haven't cooked anything in the oven until now, there are dryers. Probably I don't need her

A friend told me that in pursuit of saving electricity she bought a gas oven, but in the end, the savings did not work.
1. Overpayment for the device (electric analog is cheaper)
2. Payment to the masters and some organs there for the bifurcation of the gas line (cooking is also gas)
3. Payment for installation.

Did you know about it?
Anna1957
Quote: Anastasiay

A friend told me that in pursuit of saving electricity she bought a gas oven, but in the end, the savings did not work.
1. Overpayment for the device (electric analog is cheaper)
2. Payment to the masters and some organs there for the bifurcation of the gas line (cooking is also gas)
3. Payment for installation.

Did you know about it?
I didn’t recognize it, because I gave up the gas oven in favor of the 28L Stob stove.
Tanya-Fanya
I chose and ordered. Now I'm waiting for my new assistant Gorenje BO658A31XG. There are almost no reviews. Maybe some of you use this?
Bijou-Lenochka, thank you separately for the tip to a friendly site where they discuss household appliances
Mari_M
Hello girls! please tell me which gas oven is better to buy? So that she bakes well and bakes))
Bijou
Tanya-Fanya,
Well, with a new assistant!
Tanya-Fanya
Bijou, so I'm waiting for her, just ordered! I pray to be clever and obedient! And in general, so that she was Cinderella for me :-))))
kroshenka
Hello! I ask for feedback from the owners of microwave ovens. Are they a complete replacement for the microwave, if I only warmed up in the latter? Does this not affect the quality of the main function of the oven? I was on fire with the thought of getting rid of the microwave and freeing the work surface in the already cluttered kitchen. But I want a good oven, because I am fond of confectionery.
Margo31
Girls, good evening! I am choosing a built-in oven with steam function. The choice is still on Electrolux.
Here are just doubts, where does this steam go when you open the cabinet door? In the face and on the stretch ceiling? Doubts torment me ...
And in the advertisement they say that 5 minutes before the end of cooking, the cabinet throws excess steam into the environment.
Girls, is it like the environment ..? As far as I understand, through some hole ... Who has this assistant, the kitchen has not stratified?
Vei
Quote: Margo31
I am choosing a built-in oven with steam function. The choice is still on Electrolux.
I have an Electrolux with steam, it does not throw anything into the environment anywhere, only in the face when you open the oven
but with steam I liked both baking / proving bread and baking meat.

And now I'm looking for an extra second simple oven with convection, top-bottom mode and additionally, any variations of these two modes (bottom + convection, top + convection) grills are not necessary and not important, the oven is only for pastry baking and fruit drying. Important temperature regime from 30C, the upper limit is not important. The larger the oven, the better. Any thoughts what fits these parameters?

In general, what brands are considered good? not jammed? Because by and large I need an oven without bells and whistles. Even now I have listed the ideal maximum modes. And so convection and top-bottom from 30C that's enough for me. Help!
Margo31
Now there is Electrolux 9953 - professional series. All these things are in it. Even sous-vid can be done. Germany
Cvetaal
Elizabeth, I have NEFF, the minimum temperature is 40 degrees, but not in all modes, but only on convection and "Yeast dough", top-bottom - minimum 50 degrees.
Vei
Cvetaal, Light, and what is your price category?
I just went to an Internet store and in the category of up to 20 thousand there were a hundred and so many options, but I don't understand if these brands can be taken at all or is it wasted money?
Cvetaal
Lisa, mine is definitely much more expensive, was bought in 2010 for 36 thousand rubles, she is with pyrolysis and assembly Germany, how much it costs now - I'm afraid to even assume
Vei
Quote: Cvetaal
she pyrolysis and assembly Germany,
oh, no, I don't need such a serious unit in this case, it's simpler and cheaper for me. Basically, frosting on gingerbread to dry, marshmallows and sometimes bake biscuits.
Tanya-Fanya
Vei, have you looked at Bosh Oven Mvideo? Last month I was actively choosing an oven for myself, periodically discounts on Bosh-iki, I almost bought one for just 21 thousand. You can open the instructions there on the site and check the minimum temperature. I think that you need to build on the presence of an electronic programmer so that you can set the temperature accurately.
marina-asti
Elizabeth, I have Gorenie BO 71 SYW, I seem to have written it correctly, there is an instruction for it in the PDF, if you want to throw it off, read it.
from 30 for sure there is, I stewed the dough in it. There is convection - I bake everything only on it, there is up and down.
About 3 years ago it cost 20-25 thousand, but I needed the color and appearance of the external (handle) in the first place, I probably bought a manicurist a year ago with a little easier control than mine, in black with almost the same programs up to 20 thous.

White as mine, fresher model Gorenje BO 72 SY2W - for 25 can be found. Or did you want a cheaper one?

They have 635 series - up to 20,000 top / bottom, there is convection. Only the minimum temperature needs to be clarified


Added Wednesday 12 Oct 2016 11:44 PM

Lisa, twirled her oven:
Bottom - from 30
Bottom + convection from 30
Bottom + fan from 30
Convection from 30
Bottom + top from 30
Vei
Quote: Tanya-Fania
and Bosh-iki periodically discounts
And how are Boshiki generally considered good or so-so? or in my price range (15 - max 20 thousand) nothing good can be?
marina-asti
VeiLiza, I just remembered that when my husband and I closed the salons and sold kitchen appliances, almost all ovens were Ariston, in 12-13 I sold them for 5-7-10 thousand, which was 50 percent of the real cost. In my little girls on Doggie they raked everything out in a few days, so far nobody has any claims to TTT))) look at them, what does Ariston have now with functions and price? I do not know the truth where they are collected now, ours were still native Italian - maybe there are no complaints about this?)))
Bosch took my mother to the house from the warehouse, she has been working on an almost unheated veranda for 2 years (there was nowhere to build in the kitchen, for more than 10 years my mother lived fine without an oven, my father had to assemble an additional kitchen there), she works fine. The only thing I'm not very familiar with, her door slides out and trays / grates are placed / hung on it and with external standard built-in dimensions, her trays are much smaller than mine.
When it is cold on the veranda, when baking on convection, the wall is hotter than the door. Either because of the temperature difference "overboard", or she herself is like that ... When the chicken / meat is baked, it is imperceptible, but on weekends they baked cookies with it, the tinting is different.
Bijou
Quote: marina-asti
Look at them, what does Ariston have now with functions and price?
I risk making a mistake, but I think Ariston quite skur stopped putting the bottom heater into the cabinets. So you need to look carefully for the modes to be scheduled and what works in them. And then they will draw "Pizza" without details and guess whether the cabinet has a lower heating element or it will only drive air through the chamber.

That is, if it is not written in plain text "the lower heater is working" or the "Bottom" / "Top + Bottom" modes, then such a freak into the firebox.
Jouravl
Vei, Liza, I was also picking up an oven here and, as always, began to consider the middle price segment, and also tried to focus on Ariston, Samsung, combustion. And then I went to the shops to look at them and consult.Ariston disappeared right away, burning with the functions that I wanted approached Siemens at a price, Samsung had very good reviews. But I was tied to the size of the installation, that is, one had to be pulled out and the other inserted so that there were no gaps. As a result, she bought Siemens, at a share that took place in Eldorado - minus 18 percent, that is, without VAT. They counted this purchase in the next one - 100 percent, that is, 13.5 thousand were returned to me when buying a Siemens hob and minus 10 percent if you order on the Internet. A super cooking gas hob, glass-ceramics, a panel with shutdown, glass-ceramics, cost 22 thousand rubles. they have such a promotion in September.
Subscribe to the newsletter from large chain stores, Eldorado, Technosila, etc. They send a newsletter weekly with discounts and promotions, and you can buy decent equipment with your desired parameters. Moreover, they have promotions for one or two days. Good luck with your purchase!
Bijou
Quote: Jouravl
Super cooking gas hob glass ceramic, hob with shutdown, glass ceramic,
I don’t want to scare you ahead of time, well, the device may be different, but in the topic on the Hobot, a friend brought a photo of the Boshevsky stove, on which, two years later, the liners between the glass and the burner crumbled to dust. The replacement costs a lot of money, I don't know the details - maybe his pots were constantly leaking out of the pots, or he loved to spray glass with noise and there the iron ring rusted. Just in case, I warn you to carefully manage the area around the burners.
Vei
girls, thanks for your feedback and recommendations. What do you think about Hephaestus and Veko?
while on Avito I often meet Boshi, Indesita and Ariston, often new from furniture stores.
marina-asti
Quote: Vei
often new from furniture showrooms.

Elizabeth, we sold exactly that way, that is, the appliances were in the kitchen samples. Furniture separately, appliances are sold separately. I'd rather take a better discounted model from the sample than in the store in Veko packaging for the same money.
Bijou
Vei, but the higher was recently, does not suit you? I remember that I went to the instructions then and I liked everything. Especially for that kind of money.) Is that the quality of incarnation is a secret, but how much do we know about something else?
Quote: elenaki
Model do you mean? BOEI62000015. Yes, everything bakes perfectly, although convection is not declared in the characteristics.
.. Hansa 12 thousand
Vei
Quote: elenaki
although convection is not declared in the characteristics
Marina, but convection is not declared, but is there, or does it bake well without convection?
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Vei
and Boshiki, as it is generally believed,

Elizabeth, it is "considered" :-) But now it is increasingly said that all equipment is assembled in China, good or bad, there is no point in discussing it. Therefore, probably, as you are lucky with the purchase, the quality will be.
The only thing, if you consider Bosch ovens, then pay attention to manufacturers - Turkey (the simplest models, they, as a rule, do not have a ring heating heating element), Spain and Germany.
And yet, today from Mediamar ... a letter came that they have regular shares. Bosch and Siemens are there.
Tanya-Fanya
Vei, today Boshi specially watched, again a stock in MV ... for example, Bosch hba23 ... costs 20990, a nice price. I noticed that the temperature knob is protected from 50. And the step seems to be 10 degrees.

I took bo658 with a burner ... I really wanted it without twists, it is completely sensory. I pray to God that the purchase will be successful. The minimum temperature is 30 and the step is not limited. But also the price ...
Rada-dms
And I dream of a Neff compact oven with steam and microwaves. Although I love mono appliances, but in my niche in the kitchen, or rather, another will not fit into the place on the countertop!
Bijou
Quote: Tanya-Fania
I really wanted without krutilok, it is sensory completely.
How different people are.)) And to me twists are our FSE. So as not to aim and not peer at the right angles. A screen with a sensor is only for insertion at chest level, probably right? Don't squat in front of the oven before turning it on.
Jouravl
Tanya-Fanya, Tanya, congratulations !!! Let it please
Liza : rose: received newsletter from 003. Oven Gorenje BO636E20XG -22 315 only until October 16!
Weekend prices.

🔗

lira3003
Tanya-Fanya, Tanechka Congratulations on your assistant! Let it serve long and faithfully! And we will wait for your impressions
Masinen
Tanya-Fanya, that's what I like Burning, so it's a temperature of 275 grams !!
Great model! Congratulations!
marina-asti
Maria, and what is cooked at this temperature?
Tanya-Fanya
Girls, lovely! Thank you, dear friends!

I have already blown away with this choice of technology. I ordered a beautiful white cooking "gas on glass" from Bosch, came to pick it up, and she had three black squares on which the burners are mounted, scratched. I almost burst into tears. It's good that I didn't pay in advance.
Repair, like a crocodile, eats money. Technicians want to "one step ahead", because we don't often change such things. And if we take into account our common illness like "more tasty and with the help of cool gadgets" ... But why am I explaining to you
Now I'm waiting for the furniture, so I want to quickly start mastering and taming the new assistant.

Masinen, I saw the opportunity to set the temperature to 275 grams, but for what? In practice, where do you apply?

Bijou
Quote: Masinen
what I like about Gorenie is the temperature of 275 grams !!
So all brands have it. Only not in all models.))

Quote: marina-asti
and what is cooked at this temperature?
Pizza, baguettes, just hearth bread ..
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Bijou
And for me the twists are our FSE. So as not to aim and not peer at the right angles. A screen with a sensor is only for insertion at chest level, probably right?

Don't scare me! There can be no "Breast" on my 10 square meters! Every centimeter of the working surface was won back from the husband and the foreman in heavy battles with advances, retreats and new massive attacks.

On my sensor, you can adjust the brightness of the icons here.


Added Saturday 15 Oct 2016 00:12

Of course, I immediately got into the instructions. There are no recommendations for any dish to cook at 275 gr. All sorts of bread and buns are recommended 180-190, pizza - 200-210.

I feel, after the gas oven, I will have to learn again to select the mode and temperature.
But with your help girls, I'm not afraid of anything
Bijou
Quote: Tanya-Fania
On my sensor, you can adjust the brightness of the icons here.

Soon there will be tests of displays of household appliances - the number and density of pixels, brightness, contrast, color range ...


Added Saturday 15 Oct 2016 00:16

Quote: Tanya-Fania
There are no recommendations for any dish to cook at 275 gr.
The bread, which is supposed to "explode" in the oven, is placed in the highest possible heat. Then, after the initial absorption of heat by the dough, it will still remain hot enough there, there will be no temperature drop. That is, it is rather a "strategic reserve" of heat.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Bijou
Tests coming soon ...

Aha, taking into account the size of ChrudEi! With our love of baking ... sometimes pixels get in the way
Jouravl
I have from 30 to 300 degrees in Siemens, and in the instructions just for pita bread, pizza, flamkuchen (German fire pie), recommendations are 270-280 degrees.
But so far I have not tested anything in these modes.
You can't figure it out right away
Margit
In my Boch from 20 to 300 ° C. I put the pizza stone on the second shelf from the top, turn on the lower + upper heat and 300 ° C and the stone heats up perfectly, though for a long time. But pizza takes only 3-4 minutes to cook. If when I bought my oven I knew about ovens with pyrolysis, I would buy only with pyrolysis.
"If you have a pyrolysis oven, and the warranty period has expired (or you are ready to neglect it), then you are in luck: it is enough to disable the door lock, which prevents it from opening in the pyro-cleaning mode, and 450 degrees is in your pocket!" @
And this is a godsend for baking on the hearth.
Rada-dms
So in my coveted Neff there is pyrolysis, where without it now!
Masinen
Quote: marina-asti
Maria, what is cooked at this temperature?
Quote: Tanya-Fania
Masinen, I saw the opportunity to set the temperature to 275 grams, but for what? In practice, where do you apply?
I have a Gorenje stove in Bosnia, and there is also 275 grams in the oven.
Very good for bread, warmed up and then lowered it by 250g.

Quote: Bijou
So all brands have it. Only not in all models.))
Lena, but not all. I have a maximum 230gr in the Electrolux oven. I always bake bread, put it on 230 convection plus steam.
.
marina-asti
Quote: Bijou
Pizza, baguettes, just hearth bread ..
yeah, okay!

Quote: Margit
450 degrees in your pocket
stunned! and with these degrees what can you do?

Quote: Masinen
I have a Gorenje stove in Bosnia, and there is also 275 grams in the oven.
Very good for bread, warmed up and then lowered it by 250g.
all the same, sometimes you have to read the instructions! I went and twirled the oven - though 275 degrees!
Next time I will try to bake bread as Maria wrote.
Bijou
Quote: Masinen
Lena, but not all. I have a maximum 230gr in the Electrolux oven.
Are you arguing with me or agreeing? I also said that not in all models. And so in my Electrolux too.Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
Masinen
Quote: Bijou
And so in my Electrolux too.
Well, you're in luck)))
Vei
Quote: Tanya-Fania
I really wanted without krutilok, it is sensory completely.

I have my heaped up Electrolux touchscreen, I like it more with twists, my panel is soiled all the time. I bake gingerbread, my hands are in flour and dough, the panel gets dirty all the time, and sometimes because of a layer of flour it doesn't work.


Added Saturday 15 Oct 2016 11:37 PM

Quote: Masinen
I have a maximum 230gr in the Electrolux oven.
Masha, what is your model, remind me. I want to advise my friend about your oven.
Masinen
Quote: Masinen

Girls, and a cool oven came to me yesterday !!
Electrolux EOB8751AOX
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss
It has steam, temperature probe and automatic modes !! In short, Clever takoy !!
Uraaaa !!

While I perched it on the dishwasher and bake chicken !!
Well, this is a test so to speak))
Oven (oven). Consider, choose, discuss

Liz, here's mine)
But it seems to me that they are no longer on sale. These are German ovens, and Electrolux is now assembled in Poland or elsewhere, but not in Germany.

I love him!! He's so comfortable, handsome, just something. Only I don't use automatic modes, and in general they are not needed. They are stupid
mowgli
Mash, dear? I'm already looking at 30-liter ovens,
Masinen
Natalia, I paid 55 thousand for it.
Because this is a non-technical assembly, so such a price.
Vei
Quote: Masinen
Only I don't use automatic modes, and in general they are not needed. They are stupid
it's a pity that when I bought mine, yours was not on sale, and mine has more than 90 of these auto modes, which I naturally don’t use at all ((and the price because of them is absolutely prohibitive ...

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