fluff
Rada-dmsplease poke me ... otherwise I found this coffee maker .. the price is 1500 euros
This is not affordable ..
Margit
Tanyusha, Thank you! Why is it like a UFO?
fluff, write what you are looking for, I will try to help you.

# _Natashka_ #, you are mistaken, I do not defend any ideas, I just expressed my opinion. Your car is the same automatic as all other automatic machines, and the taste is accordingly the same "automatic". You are drinking a delicious coffee drink, nothing more. But I don't think that even your coffee machine will be able to brew a delicious drink from old grain, but this is not the main thing, the main thing is that you are satisfied with the taste of the brewed coffee.
After all, taste is the main criterion, and it determines the value of any coffee maker.
To date, as far as I know, only the Monza and Monza de Luxe models of automatic coffee machines can make real espresso like in a coffeemaker, and will be able to please the taste of a picky coffee lover.
Coffee machine
Shl. If not difficult, write the models of the coffee machines with which you dealt. I can't imagine that you can buy a coffee machine several times in a row for an expensive one, and I have never seen cheap machines, and change them one after another.

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Rada-dms
# _Natashka_ #Having tried coffee from at least two dozen vending machines and then having tasted coffee in two places in Italy, only in two, out of all my travels, from a carob, which became the standard of taste for me, I don't want to think about any machine. The usual nespresso also gives out such coffee, you can drink it, and we drink it sometimes! But we cannot forget that coffee! But I understand that you still need to learn how to cook it, with experience it comes, but this process must be mastered without haste, so for now we are slowing down with the purchase, since now is not that period!
Rada-dms
And, of course, the barista's skill has not been canceled! And this is an interesting process, a kind of art, therefore, if a person loves coffee, understands and distinguishes the nuances, he will still come to the carob, and rather quickly!
Margit
Rada-dms - Olya, it is not at all difficult to learn how to make coffee on a carob, a maximum of a week, and the rest of the time is an endlessly pleasant refresher course.
Tanyusha
Margitwhy ufo, yes because it seems to me that I can’t cope with it. I need an assault rifle for a large company, and if I am addicted to it, then I cook it in a ceramic pot.
Margit
Tanyusha, have you been roasting coffee for yourself for many years and are afraid of not coping? I do not believe!
fluff
Quote: Margit
fluff, write what you are looking for, I will try to help you.
Good day!! : rose: I've read that espresso machines are better at brewing coffee. I read it on the forum. Everyone praises Vitek 1513. But so far I am in doubt. There are other reviews as well. For example about sayeko. I saw your post about the trumpet, so there was a question about the model. But I can't afford one. looking for a budget.
LudMila
Fluff!
And what does "budget" mean? And what forum did you read? If something like prokofe or ixbt, then no one in their right mind will ever praise any vitek ... And one coffee maker is not enough, you also need a coffee grinder, and it should cost no less!
From not the most expensive brews in Russia, you can buy Italian Lelit:
🔗, if you want cheaper - then second-hand or order abroad.
fluff
LudMila, and read here. The topic is "carob coffee makers" It seems that the people there are advising ... quite adequate ..
sazalexter
fluffThere are also quite decent coffee makers among budget coffee makers. 90% of the success of delicious coffee is the coffee itself, its correct roasting and grinding. In a Turk, delicious coffee is obtained, although there is no pressure of 15 bar.If you are not too picky, then you can generally do with a capsule type Nespresso or Tassimo
mowgli
bought Bosch inexpensive - happy
fluff
sazalexter, Thanks for the answer. I didn't like the coffee from the capsule
fluff
mowgli, can you brand ?? Read, see.
mowgli
fluff, Bosch TES 50621 RW, I like making hot milk with froth and hot water, latte coffee, espresso, Americano
mowgli
Oh, just now I saw that you wanted a carob, I have a carob De-Longy. - my daughter took it now, but I like the coffee machine: she will both pile and cook
fluff
Quote: mowgli
I have a carob De Longy.
mowgli, How do you like her ?? And you can make a brand.
mowgli
I don't remember the brand, but it costs about 5 thousand, maybe a little more, the coffee brews well.
TatianaSa
The girls came to me yesterday a coffee machine from Germany. It was exactly a month. Packaged at its best. The managers also threw in a kg of coffee as a gift. True, I didn't like the coffee. Overcooked.
tatusa
Girls, I didn't reread the whole topic, so tell me, does anyone have a Bosch coffee machine ?? is it worth taking this ?? we want to chip in with the employees and give it to the bosses for the anniversary, of course, with the hope that he will put it in the office))
Tanyusha
Scarecrow has Bosch, but hers is dear, she is happy with it.
Svet.0209
One of the girls wrote that Bosch is a very capricious car. Check out Delonghi or Saeko. Saeko has been working for me for 6 years without any problems.
mowgli
I have Bosch since June. I like! I don't know how to proceed. The coffee is delicious and cappuccino and latte mocha, American and also just makes hot water and milk with froth hot, you can make cocoa.
Annutka
I have Delongy for 4 years now and only makes me happy. I also heard that the Boshi are capricious, but apparently to whom, how lucky.
Tanyusha
I got Saeko after 2 years of work, now I have Delongy.
Masinen
Quote: tatusa

Girls, I didn't reread the whole topic, so tell me, does anyone have a Bosch coffee machine ?? is it worth taking this ?? we want to chip in with the employees and give it to the bosses for the anniversary, of course, with the hope that he will put it in the office))
Do not take Bosch !!
My friend bought it and immediately turned out to be defective. So she carried it back. And the reviews are terrible about Bosch!
Take Delongy, it's better not yet invented)
Jess
SVET.0209, and how does Bosch's "capriciousness" manifest itself? We have been using it for the third year and have not noticed anything. The taste of coffee is amazing, the aroma is incomparable. To be honest, this is the first time I hear that someone doesn't like Bosch. When I worked, a Boshev car was parked in our office and in our office. Simpler than at home, but also very decent coffee.
tatusa
Mowgli, Jess, and what models you have, if it's not difficult to write, I'll google it myself. We looked at one, the reviews seem to be not bad, even videos on YouTube have how to use it. But I wonder how many cups of coffee a day such coffee machines are designed for.
Svet.0209
Quote: Jess
SVET.0209, and how does Bosch's "capriciousness" manifest itself?

I don't remember now who wrote that Bosch had problems with service. In general, I think this is how lucky. There are both good and negative reviews about any brand.
Jess
SVET.0209, I agree completely. But we are lucky, we experience only positive over a cup of coffee
tatusa, to be honest, how many cups a day I didn’t count, on weekends, when everyone is at home, we just turn on the car. And on weekdays, if friends drop in for a visit, then tea is no longer quoted. And our model is TES80721RW. You can google all the points that interest you. And if something is not clear about the service, ask if I can help you.
Svet.0209
Jess, .
mowgli
Quote: tatusa
Mowgli, Jess, and what are your models,
I have something like faith written in Latin letters, and it costs around 30, a little less
tatusa
Thank you girls, damn what all the same these coffee machines are cool, but the prices ... Jess,: drinks_milk: I liked a good unit, we will consider it as an option, and the reviews seem to be not bad, and Bosch has service centers everywhere, in which case))
Albina
Quote: TatianaSa
The girls came to me yesterday a coffee machine from Germany.
Tatiana, can you share where you ordered in Germany? I am looking for a gift to my husband
sergN
I'm certainly not Tatiana, catch
computeruniverse.de
stoll-espresso.de
shop-seltmann.de
look for an acceptable option, if it's not too late, sorry I haven't looked into the topic for a long time.
TatianaSa
sergN, and I seem to have already given a link in a personal
TatianaSa
I'm happy with my coffee machine ...I order fresh roast coffee once every 2 weeks, but Margarita's car does not go out of my head. I want her and that's it.
Albina
Quote: TatianaSa
Margarita's car does not go out of my head. I want her and that's it.
What is this car?
sergN
Quote: TatianaSa
sergN, and I seem to have given a link in a personal
I confess, but there was no line in the PM
TatianaSa
Albina, VBM Domobar Super Pid only I misspelled. This is not a coffee machine, but a coffeemaker.
vatruska
And in OZON now for 2 days discounts on coffee makers and coffee machines
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Maybe someone needs ...
Sindi
Girls, I am writing late, thanks to everyone who advised Vitek 1513, great machine, delicious coffee is made instantly. We are glad
Taia
Gulya, you should have left your feedback in the "carob coffee makers" topic.
Sindi
And I'm sorry, I was mistaken with the topic) Delete!
Kara
I noticed the strange behavior of my assistant Delongi. When making cappuccino, she pours milk differently. That is, with absolutely the same settings (foam level, cup size, coffee strength), milk from the milk jug is served either 100 grams per serving, then 50 (the amount is conditional). And it happens so, when preparing two cups in a row, pours into one to the top, into the other half. Has anyone come across a similar one?
Scarecrow
My Bosch is 2 years old. Everything seems to work so far without any complaints (pah-pah). Somehow it didn't work out for me with milk, I spat on it, to the foam, thank the Buddha, I am indifferent. But, the funny thing is, Saeko's friend and she is a fan of foam, but she also did not work out with milk. Apparently - it's about milk))).

The machine plows every day, brews 10 cups (that's not so much for me !!)). Service - I don't see any problems either: everything opens perfectly, all the guts are taken out entirely (brewing unit) and I've washed it a million times right in the bathroom under running water.

mowgli
I bought a Bosch this summer, not the most expensive option. With the froths, the main thing is that the milk is cold, not greasy, the foam is strong, high. then you need to clean all sorts of tubes and holes, but in Boch, as Natasha noticed, everything can be removed well.
Natasha, and how often do you wash the brewing unit, I'm afraid of something
mowgli
KaraWhen I bought my car, it was written in the reviews that in addition to washing, which is programmed by the machine itself, sometimes you also need to clean the small holes in the milk supply .. Maybe you have the same? then, they say, all problems are solved normally.
Scarecrow
mowgli,

When she yells that she needs to be cleaned))). She herself monitors her washing times.
mowgli
yes, and it screams at me, only I don't wash the cooking room, I just put the pills

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