What to choose in the initial price range?

Of course, no pressure is needed. As time goes on, maybe the attitude to technology will change. At our place of work 15 years ago, an employee (a radio engineer by profession) claimed that she would never buy a microwave, that she had seen enough of the harmful effects of radiation at landfills ... But now she uses a microwave oven with might and main, we do not remind, the fashion has played a role - everyone has , and what, no? So he uses it now. conclusion: it is necessary to infect with the idea not only your old people, but also their neighbors and relatives. Technology to the masses!

Oh, what a topical and spiritual topic has formed here ...
I almost burst into tears. My father died at the age of 46, my mother was 47 at that time, now - 63. A beautiful, spectacular woman, but she flatly refused to marry again.
I constantly help her financially ... but ... the old generation has its own tempering, its principles and its ideas about the "necessity" of household appliances.
To begin with, she lives in her private house with stove heating and 6 acres of land, both of which require constant care and the application of a strong male hand. Either I need to "scuffle", then I have to dig up a vegetable garden ... Nooo, he doesn’t let my money into any of this, doesn’t hire workers, she climbs into an unknown direction, does something there ... if I have more or less an idea about soot, then about how to coward it - nothing at all

So I gave her a new stove with a gas surface and an electric oven for her 60th birthday ... she uses the top, but the bottom is still not used. What, she says, will I spend so much electricity on myself alone? What do I need to bake there? A couple of biscuits.
It was then that I got my sight and realized that I needed to buy a small desktop electric oven. She will not bother with a bread maker (she likes to knead dough with her hands, and she treats bread from a bread machine in the same way as rinishek described it), but you need something small and compact so that you can bake a small portion per eater.

What is this, he says, am I going to spend so much electricity on myself alone?

my inveterate gardeners .. well, mushroom pickers too, they dry in the oven, on the stove and whatever .. forever overfried mushrooms, I offered them an electric dryer to dry apples, mushrooms .. so the answer was identical, * oooh, it’s she’ll gobble up so much electricity, we it's better as before .. *

About electricity - it's all true, you can't do anything, receipts for electricity are fascinating, even comparison with other expenses does not help. And also a similar fad at dachas - firewood, they always regret it, because you have to buy. Probably, such an attitude was inherited from the Soviet era of shortages, lack of money and unwillingness to pay for services (that's more understandable for a specific product, not invisible electricity). And, of course, the famous prostokvashinskoe "the money is paid for the hat, but my skin is worth nothing" - your work always seems free.
But let's not despair, we may be able to convince in something, maybe we will be interested in something. As far as real possibilities are concerned, this is not an obligation, I just want to make the life of old people easier and more interesting.

Well, I don't know about you, but my grandfather and grandmother (born in 1932 and 1929) themselves asked me to buy them a bread maker.
Once my husband and I came to visit them and brought a loaf of only bread baked in a bread machine. So they ate it for 2 days instead of a cake with tea (ordinary white bread according to the simplest recipe) and praised it.
And then, when my grandmother found out that HP also kneads the dough (due to her age, it is already difficult for her to knead manually), they just cut off my phone - buy and buy them this miracle
I bought it, we will take you to give it on the weekend.

P.S. By the way, I sat down and studied the instructions from LG 155 - and so I liked this HP !!!
I don’t know how it bakes (I think it’s good), but outwardly the HP and the instructions made me very happy!
If I didn't have my Panasonic, I think I would have bought myself such an LG

For 2 days, instead of a cake with tea, they ate (ordinary white bread according to the simplest recipe) and praised.
And then, when my grandmother found out that HP also kneads the dough (due to her age, it is already difficult for her to knead manually), they just cut off my phone - buy and buy them this miracle
I bought it, we will take you to give it on the weekend.

it's just wonderful that you managed to please so much with a gift. We deviated from the topic for the reason that we began to try on gifts for our "grandparents"

After all, at first we also ate bread from a bread machine instead of any of the most enticing store buns ... but now my home ones are spoiled ... from a bread machine - it's just so as not to eat in the store

And usually - on leaven and from the oven - this is the most "correct and desired" bread for them.

Good day!

We want to buy a bread maker for my grandmother ..
You don't need a lot of programs, now the grandmother either bakes bread in a Russian oven (there are many loaves of about 2 kg or more at once - she makes them in pots), or she buys it in a store. She lives not alone, but with her grandson - it takes a lot of bread. Bread from the oven, of course, is good, but to bake it you need to stay awake at night, watch the dough, and melt the oven in the morning .. In general, it is troublesome and difficult.

I read it here on the forum, went shopping and formed the following requirements:
The maximum volume, ease of use, reliability (the village is far away, there will be no service nearby), not expensive (the ceiling is 5.5 - 6 tons). The program is only interested in one, in fact - to bake bread, ordinary yeast bread from white flour. Well, you probably need a timer to bake it in the morning.
At the expense of simplicity - it is desirable that the process is started with one button. That is, to set up the desired mode once and forget about it.

By weight pass
Daewoo DI-9154 - 1350g.
Delonghi BDM 1200 S - 1200g.
Moulinex OW5002 XXL Home bread - 1500g.
Moulinex OW5000 XXL - 1500g.
Panasonic SD-254WTS - 1250g.
Rolsen RBM-1288 - 2000
Rolsen RBM-201 - 2000
Rolsen RBM-938 - 2000
Binatone BM-2169 -1125g.

How are they with reliability and management?

Rolsen, in general, is somehow knocked out among all others by a large volume and a low price .. It is embarrassing that in the Yandex market they are presented only in 3 online TV stores .. I do not trust such ..

Yes, I am in Moscow.

buy the one that is simpler, you need to bake bread all the more for grandparents.

hello dear, help me choose a bread maker. I don’t understand them at all, I need a gift.
do they really bake bread and pies, or is it something unpalatable? or "grandmother's tastes better"?
not very expensive, 3000-5000 rubles.

Considering all the circumstances set out by you, buy any that fits within the specified budget.

what circumstances?

vitalyss, the bread maker really bakes bread itself, you only need to lay down the products according to the recipe, but at the expense of the pies, this is only the dough she makes, and you need to work a little yourself to make the shape of the pies, maybe in the following models they will take care of this and put a couple of workers in there (you need to be more correct) to make the pies. As for the taste: no store can compare. I am for a bread maker as a gift !!!!!!!!!!

I will give it to my mother, so I will have to eat anyway. whether any burners will be obtained. I read a lot here - and for dumplings, dough and pizza. straight tablecloth-self-assembly .... or is it all true as they say.? what is the difference between 2000 rubles and 6000 rubles, just an abundance of programs? or the quality of the batch for example? ...

But this is really the case for dumplings, dumplings, pizza, dough makes, different breads can be baked, for example, I just baked Borodinsky - delicious, I'll tell you. DO NOT hesitate to buy, then you will not be overjoyed with your assistant, because there is always fresh and tasty bread, the main thing is that the flour and yeast are of high quality. As for the models, of course, the more functions, the more expensive, but there are no superfluous programs.Panasonic is undoubtedly the leader in quality! The only thing I can say from my own experience is that you can do without the jam function. Buy without hesitation, mom will be relieved, no need to run to the store for bread. Good luck with your choice!

is the manufacturer important? Panasonic or kenwood is better than lji?

Of course it is important, this is purely my opinion. I have LG, I had to take it for repairs, the oil seal leaked, saying Panasonic has the least problems, although how lucky. Take more promoted models, so to speak, on them, in which case, and spare parts without problems.

I have Panasonic for the third year. I live and rejoice.
I began to make dumplings more often, because there were no problems with kneading dough for dumplings. I bake my pies almost every day, and earlier one or two times a month.
I completely forgot what it is to buy bread in a store. I don't even know the prices and don't want to know. Your bread is much tastier and safer, because you know what additives you put in.

I have 2 HP and both bake well! I no longer buy bread in the store I often bake muffins. Panasonic is quieter.

We need a simple bakery in the village, up to $ 100.
Requirements:
-Small bucket, because it will actively knead the dough into pies;
-Available management;
-Function "cupcake", (no jam)
-would like a bucket not high, but "oblong")))

I was thinking about ski track 202, but it confuses me there that she does not remember the program when the electricity is turned off ...

I ask for advice!

I think that a stove like mine meets your requirements

I was already interested in this topic .... said alaska
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=3696.150 post # 159

I went to see the delongues.
What kind of Alaska, I have never seen such a miracle in the Kiev region ...

alaska
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=3696.150

So did you take this Alaska?
I doubt it somehow, although it would be nice to ride the subway. Confusingly, there is no preheating in it.

Summer resident, what shape is your delongue's bucket?

[Zhekka]

Zhekka no, I didn’t take it, there are still a couple of months before the summer season, but I will definitely take it .... trusted people advised

[Summer resident]

Summer resident, what shape is your delongue's bucket?

Summer resident, sorry, I will answer while you are not there
Zhekka, Delongy has a brick-shaped bucket.

Rusya, thank you, I'm more familiar with the "brick" after my 125th delonga.

[Zhekka]

Zhekka Here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=26545.0Reply # 4: 26 October 2009, 18:52:12 All of these ovens are 600 watt and are designed for 1.5 and 2 pounds (690-900 g) of bread. 12 programs, 13 hours of timer delay, 1 stirrer. ... Please love and respect
Any of them will gladly go out of town

Thank you!
I now have the pangs of choice, because I'm not taking myself, but my sister and aunt, who hope for me. It seems tempting to take Alaska, clathronic, Orion, etc., inexpensively and people here on the site write that they work fine, but ... I am tormented by vague doubts.
I think we can. Kenwood 250 or LG 201, 202 ...

[Zhekka]

Zhekka LG 201, 202 ... have very unstable baked goods, there are complaints https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=62.0
Then it's better kenwood- (delongi) 250 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=60.0

What unstable baked goods ??? It depends on where the hands grow and the mood of the pisces! At least so with me.

Damn, they write, Kenwood 250 does not pick up all the flour from the corners ...
my friend LG 202, happy.

I would take Orion 206 for myself. But it is too big - it bakes up to 1250 grams of bread. And so-just a miracle-2 stirrers, 10 programs, memory when the light is turned off. By the way, it is completely lapped up from expensive, but outdated models. The design is cool, the reviews are positive, the bucket is oblong. I work in a warehouse of household appliances - I reviewed everything that is, absolutely ALL of the bread makers mentioned on the forum. I took myself a Delfa-inexpensive, also licked from the early developments of well-known manufacturers. The whole set of functions - and don't listen to anyone.
As for LG, there are a lot of complaints about them. And this is at their price! And the build quality of the Orions is much better than the same Moulinex and LG.
Believe me, I reviewed and felt everything!

We receive them in hundreds and dozens for all stores, they take very willingly. Demand speaks for itself. Happy shopping !!

I would take Orion 206 for myself. But it is too big - it bakes up to 1250 grams of bread. And so-just a miracle-2 stirrers, 10 programs, memory when the light is turned off. By the way, it is completely lapped up from expensive, but outdated models.The design is cool, the reviews are positive, the bucket is oblong. I work in a warehouse of household appliances - I reviewed everything that is, absolutely ALL of the bread makers mentioned on the forum. I took myself a Delfa-inexpensive, also licked from the early developments of well-known manufacturers. The whole set of functions - and don't listen to anyone.

I also have Delfa, it costs only 322 grams, which is about $ 40. Satisfied - not the right word! They haven't bought bread since September. And the dough kneads well, better than my Phillips combine.

My colleagues and I have been at work with up to 10 Orions for about 3 months, mostly 206, but there is also a more expensive and beautiful 205 (for women, the beauty of the stove is also important!).
So far, everyone is happy, especially since the price for Orion 206 is about $ 65 (as mentioned above, the cheapest Orions are in the Kiev online store 5OK).
As for me, Orion 204 is too small.

Enough of course-900 gr. a large loaf By the way 204 Orion is licked off from 3000 Moulinex, only there is a handle for carrying. Stainless steel.
But her bucket is square. And I wanted a slightly rectangular one.
And the 205 form of the bread machine itself is simply not for everybody.
I liked 206 more in terms of design and accuracy. It is so delicate, white, compact. It's just that in my kitchen almost everything is made of stainless steel - I'm tired of rubbing it all !!!

I have a microwave and a stainless steel stove, I'm fed up.
Which Orion has a rectangular bucket? How high is not good at Ski ...

And yet, owners of Orions, does the stove remember the program when it is turned off? energy?

I will now wash all the stoves with the preservation of the program. Some have a little time, 8 minutes. The biggest one I saw is 15 minutes. The main thing is that the voltage in the network is normal so that

I have Orion 204, it contains bread in the shape of a bean. We have a family, a husband, me and a child, we have enough, we eat bread when we do it, when we bake it in a day or two, and when we die in a day. The shape is convenient if there is a sandwich maker, the size matches perfectly. It keeps the program when it is turned off, I sometimes use it to increase the proofing time.

I still suffer)))
If I took it for myself, I would have bought it for a long time, but for someone ... Oh, wait, maybe somewhere there will be sales-promotions ... (woke up after NG)

Dear forum users, help with the choice ...
I want my mom to buy HP, but I don’t know which one to choose.
Mom, my experimenter is still the same, with accuracy she is not always in order, I want to find one that would not be too much with the ingredients, she bothers me later.
If there are such HPs, please tell me, otherwise I'm tired of surfing the Internet.

Buy any HP and print the "fairy tale about the bun" - a beginner's guide from Admin.

I settled on H.P. Binatone BM-2068, and now I was wondering if my mother would master this ....

206 Orion has a rectangular bucket with 2 stirrers, such a not weak bucket! Well, what do you think, if a loaf, if desired, can be brought to 1.5 kg? According to the program-1250 gr.
Have 204-square, tall. And at 205 I didn't look inside - I didn't like its shape right away.

I settled on H.P. Binatone BM-2068, and now I was wondering if my mother would master this ....

Of course he will. You show her everything, tell her. HP, in the end, is a very simple unit, and modern pensioners are all literate, they wash everything on washing machines, use telephones and TVs. Several times I came across such pretexts about complexity. They are associated with the psychological characteristics of age, this is already gerontology, and they are expressed this way, and sometimes contrary to the obviousness, when the new equipment is easier to maintain and care for than the old one, they just got used to it, this is their way of life, which is more and more conservative over the years. In addition, old habits give a certain psychological comfort, a feeling of reliability, support in everyday life, etc. ... so that close people spend more time with them and do something for them.Now I see this effect: an employee of my son (50 years old) bought his wife HP, and has been baking bread and muffins in it for a month already, my wife (engineer!) Says that she does not understand anything in electronics (!) ).
In short, create a positive attitude in your mom, and everything will be smooth. And all HPs are practically the same in complexity, the design is only different. It is wiser to buy HP, guaranteed to bake high-quality bread, then mom will like it right away, she will not have problems with her, which means she will also have a desire to work.

I settled on H.P. Binatone BM-2068, and now I was wondering if my mother would master this ....

Why are you in doubt? How old is mom?
Bake bread two or three times with your mom.
Show her how to use the stove.

P.S. Why did you choose this particular model?

Can I put in my own five cents? I was not lucky with Binaton, it was this model, 2068, which worked for 4 months, then the control board failed, there were no parts in the SC, I had to return it. The money was returned in the same amount that I had paid, despite the fact that at the time of return this unit cost 2.5 times more (crisis, inflation). I took Orion OBM-205 for myself in May last year, while he works like dad Carlo, despite the fact that the amount of dough is max 1125 g, he even kneads 1500 for me! Very powerful bucket with 2 stirrers. One minus - the crust is poorly roasted, but it is likely that this depends not only on HP, we have a very low voltage in the network. I mainly use it for kneading, but I bake it in the oven, where the bread is completely different ...