Borscht with beef ribs without a drop of oil and without frying in a cast-iron cauldron (+ video)

I do not want to be not modest, but I want to say that my borscht would have been liked by our ancestors who lived in the 18-19 centuries

In the 18th century, such a dish would have been impossible, since in its overwhelming mass Russian dishes were prepared from unmilled products, whole, including vegetables. At the end of the 18th century, - before and after the war of 1812 with the French, cooks and culinary specialists invited from France teach the nobility, counts and landowners, how to cook and eat dishes from crushed products. Remember the same Marie-Antoine Carem ...
They would like your borscht for sure. Since our not so distant ancestors, judging by the chronicles, or other remaining legends and references, ate something that would make you vomit ... Since then, cooking has gone far into the future, and it is difficult to imagine what a serf had to eat people ...
Yes, there was this:
The days are great in myastod in the table. , corned beef, rolls, tongues, salmon, hares in frying pans, white hares with milk, chickens, chickens, belly buttons, chicken liver, larks, mutton giblets, sandrik, pork, ham, crucian carps, morels, kundums, two shti. And for supper they serve: chickens, ripples, baked hares, ducks, grouses, black grouse, lamb, linen, dew hares, chickens, pork, ham.
But all this had to do with the royal court, and in no way to other governors and serfs ...

The argument is kind of meaningless.

And then, the truth is - the dispute is completely meaningless, and once again How many copies of the forum were broken on the subject "whose borscht is correct, from Russians or Ukrainians, (or on the island of Borneo), with or without beets", the topic is already stuck in my teeth

I don’t even remember, and I’m even afraid that the search will not show how many times we raised the topic of borscht, arguing to the point of hoarseness. And even the "leaders" of the dispute have emerged, the first of them is Kapet, the main thing is to argue, defending your position, which is not always correct! And if you look at the author's recipes Kapet, then they are far from truth and fulfillment.

And is it worth it for the sake of "a dispute for the sake of a dispute" to trash the author's theme A new person came to the forum, with his suggestions and his own vision of the author's cuisine ... and here we goggle in front of him, once again trying to show ourselves as specialists in the kitchen

PEOPLE STOP

[Kalya]

In Russia, they apparently cooked cabbage soup, because they did not know about beets yet

Maxim Syrnikov, a propagandist of Russian folk cuisine, came to the rescue:

Fish borsch with haddock Boil a strong, rich broth from fish spare parts (head, tail, fins, abdomen), strain and separate 1 liter of broth. Prepare vegetables (onions, carrots, turnips, beets), clean ...Admin

Kalya (lean soup) with beets Kalya chowder, light vegetable soup on water, with beets and cucumber pickle. This recipe was spied on by Maxim Syrnikov in the "Monastic Kitchen", and I give the recipe for kali the same as his. I ...Admin

Kalya (from Fin. kala - "fish") - a dish of Russian cuisine, which is a fish or meat soup cooked in cucumber brine. It is the prototype of modern pickles.
Kalya recipes have appeared in professional culinary literature since the end of the 18th century, but the dish itself appeared much earlier, it is mentioned in sources of the 16th-17th centuries.

The most common type of kalya was made from fatty fish with pressed caviar, or, moreover, from caviar alone. There were also recipes for kalya from poultry meat (kalya duck, chicken, from black grouse), instead of cucumber, cabbage brine or a mixture of brine and kvass was sometimes used. In some recipes, lemon was added to the kale instead of brine.

In the explanatory dictionary of V.I.Dal, kalya is described as a kind of borscht, a stew on cucumber brine with cucumbers, beets and meat, and in the post with fish and caviar.

Kalya is a spicy, thick soup with a spicy and dense broth in consistency. Nowadays, kalya can be made from marine fish such as halibut, catfish, which go well with a salty-sour base.

At the time of its spread, kalya was a festive dish, soup masters were called kaleischiki or kaleischits (kale lovers were also called: where kalya, there I am). But over time, kalya in Russian cuisine practically fell out of use, its place was taken by pickle soups, and kalya itself, if it is cooked somewhere, is often incorrectly called fish pickle.

Chowder is a light vegetable soup on water. The chowder contains any one main vegetable product (onions, potatoes, turnips, rutabagas or lentils), except for beets, sauerkraut and beans. Be sure to add onions and spices (herbs and garlic). Cooking time 20-30 minutes. They eat stews freshly prepared, eat black bread.

[Admin]

And is it worth for the sake of "dispute for the sake of dispute" to trash the author's theme PEOPLE, STOP

Admin, Everything is fine, We communicate peacefully, no one offends or crap anyone, Everyone cooks Borscht differently, even you have a lot of Borscht recipes for every taste and color, and this is good, everyone has their own borscht, their own taste and no one will convince me , what is better to sauté or fry in butter, onions, carrots, beets, I have a delicious and healthy borscht in meat and vegetable broth !!!

[Cook]

Cook, Igor, and I do not pretend to be a specialist Russian or other nat. cuisine, I "did not graduate from the universities of culinary" I can designate my status as "I cook well", my entire cuisine is author's, even if it duplicates dishes of famous people

If one of our "borscht connoisseurs" wants to seek the truth in a dispute, this should be done on the pros of culinary forums, among those chefs who are professionals in the kitchen, cooking it, and the pros who study Russian and other nat. the kitchen.

Igor, sorry for my attack ... I have been on the forum for a very long time, and I have known many for a long time, including disputes in the hundredth circle

[Admin]

Admin, no one offends the author, and here they don’t give their own insults, they only give a plus! And the fact that word by word something jumps to near-dark - well, that's why he is a forum. Yes, I also do not like "button accordions", and if something like that slipped through, I apologize!
In any case, as I wrote here earlier: you cannot please everyone! And one should not expect only a "mimic" reaction here. Otherwise, it will be completely artificially boring and combed, like in a mausoleum ...

[Konstantin]

you will not please everyone! And one should not expect only a "mimic" reaction here.

Konstantin, only the author was forgotten to warn from the very beginning that we "can stand up for ourselves and will argue" And then a new person on the forum, he does not know about it right away, he may not understand and appreciate our forum experiences, he will be offended and will go home with its own edition of borscht
Freedom to copyright recipes!

So, stop raging, go about your business

[Admin]

Admin, I understand that the author is a real man, with culinary experience, neat at home and good-natured in communication. And the raids of local culinary laymen, skillfully disguising themselves as authorities (I mean myself), should not frighten him off, or push him away from the forum! Moreover, if something goes against the author's views on the recipe, then a civilized form is covertly given to it ...

Yes, we are finished with the buzz!

[Admin]

Freedom to copyright recipes!

Admin, Thank you!!! Moreover, time is moving forward, and the dishes are improving, it's enough to live in the old-fashioned way, but to cook everything is tasty and healthy, and who knows what kind of borscht will be cooked in 200 years? They will come up with dry borscht in packs, like noodles, and will brew !!! May God give the planet earth to live indefinitely and environmentally friendly !!!

[Cook]

Cook, Igor, thank you! I really like your recipes and in general ,,

[zvezda]

zvezda, OlyaThank you very much for your rating !!!

[Igor]

Igor, can you please, please !!

[Igor]

Igor, can you please, please !!

Deal!!!