vernisag
tem, bowls with a ceramic coating are not very easy to use, but while new, they are all normal. Buy then additional and business then. They don't like Redmond, more for one reason, because of a not very honest and very aggressive policy on the sales market. Their multicooker is not bad. Judging by the "brains", the Polaris is better, but the quality of the bowl coating is worse there.

I offered you a slow cooker, which is really not very bad. There is just a gorgeous bowl, there are enough programs, it looks very nice and the programs are well tuned.
And this Redmond, for me personally, a cat in a poke
redleafa
RepeShock, exactly, exactly! In another topic, we already had a case of taking out a super-good assistant to everyone's trash, but it did not fit and that's it ...
RepeShock

redleafa, well, it's funny))) You write what you like, but they ask for a review for what you don't like)))

redleafa
RepeShock, well, yes, they ask like, and then they finally buy a new model, at what not the best manufacturer, and again they ask why it doesn't work out, why is that ?!
tem
vernisag, thanks for the constructive answers. Please don’t get stuck on Redmond. I came across this particular model first, therefore it was used as an example. I will gladly look at analogs with the same principle of organizing the menu and for which I am not ashamed to write recommendations. Moreover, this thing in Ozone has already risen in price by 15% during reflections.
According to an express survey of familiar pence, I have an absolute confirmation of my theory that the best way to control "in one or two clicks", namely "named target button -> start". All additional variations were perceived as unusable. So if someone remembers good devices with a large push-button (not a sensor) menu indicating specific modes, I propose to tell you.
About the second criterion. I noticed that everywhere the bowl is removed with a special device. Is it really everywhere? Are there bowls with handles or other extraction methods? Can it be safely removed with potholders? To what extent is a typical hook-up device safe (does it hold the bowl securely)?
You also confused me with your attitude to ceramics. Before that, I had extremely negative impressions of Teflon. Is it just longevity or are there other factors involved?
gala10
Quote: tem
that everywhere the bowl is removed with a special device. Is it really everywhere? Are there bowls with handles or other extraction methods? Can it be safely removed with potholders?
In my three multi-cookers from different companies, the bowls can be easily removed using ordinary oven mitts. I tried the special link - I didn't like it.
Quote: tem
You also confused me with your attitude to ceramics.
Ceramic after about six months of operation loses its non-stick properties. Baking becomes impossible.
vatruska
Quote: gala10
I tried the special link - I didn't like it.
Do you have a new form or an old one? I have an old one - the mustache is beautiful ...
gala10
Quote: vatruska
Do you have a new form or an old one?
Svetlana, no difference. I'm uncomfortable - that's all. And someone is very comfortable. It's very subjective.
vernisag
Quote: tem
I noticed that everywhere the bowl is removed with a special device. Is it really everywhere? Are there bowls with handles or other extraction methods? Can it be safely removed with potholders? To what extent is a typical hook-up device safe (does it hold the bowl securely)?
You also confused me with your attitude to ceramics. Before that, I had extremely negative impressions of Teflon. Is it just longevity or are there other factors involved?
I like ordinary bowls, without handles, the device for removing the bowl from me is the most common, a towel. Sometimes, baking, I blush in the airfryer right in the bowl, but with handles this is no longer possible.
Why remove the bowl from the multi? I take out only when I need to shake out the pastries (pies, biscuits, casseroles), and when I cook a soup or a second dish, it cools down right in the bowl. Then you can put it in the refrigerator, cover it with a lid or transfer the contents to another saucepan.
The ceramic-coated bowl will stick with baked goods over time. And Teflon can also be different, there is also very good. Phillips have cups with a golden brown coating, they are simply excellent and serve a very long time. But of course, in any case, you can use only silicone spatulas for mixing. So, you will immediately need to buy a silicone spatula complete with a moult



Added Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 PM

Quote: gala10
I'm uncomfortable - that's all.
Of course, I don't have it, but I can't even imagine how and most importantly why to use it, how you can take out a full, hot bowl of soup with it.It's easier and more convenient to use a towel.
vatruska
Quote: vernisag
how to remove a full, hot bowl of soup with it

Remarkably pulled out!

Quote: vernisag
Why remove the bowl from the multi?
Well, for example, in the instructions for Panasonic it is specifically written that it is undesirable to cool in a multicooker ...
Larssevsk
Quote: gala10
I'm uncomfortable - that's all.
I'm also not comfortable with waaapstche. Moreover, I would like to watch a video of someone doing it with a five-liter pot full of soup or compote.
If someone throws off, thank you from me
vernisag
Quote: Larssevsk
Moreover, I would like to watch a video of someone doing it with a five-liter pot full of soup or compote.
I also want to see
Irgata
Quote: vatruska
the instructions for Panasonic specifically say that it is undesirable to cool in a slow cooker ...
and I myself never take out a hot bowl in any way (except with baking) with a liquid brew and I told my old mother not to do this - God forbid, the bowl will slip out and scald, my mother lives alone, and even with whom, scalded with hot soup

if you need to cool it, then I open the lid, it will cool down, then I take it out

yes, when ready, we start eating, so - I take out the bowl from the multicooker with less content
RepeShock
Quote: gala10
Baking becomes impossible

Not only baked goods, almost everything except broth / soup is already impossible to make, sticks and burns godlessly. And if the honeycomb is deep at the bottom, it’s a big problem to wash it.

Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: vernisag
But of course, in any case, you can use only silicone spatulas for mixing.
From the very first day (about 5 years of experience) I use only wooden spatulas, spoons, ladles and everything is fine, and the silicone ones (which came with the kit) are idle. If your seniors have wooden devices, then nothing extra is needed. To get the bowl out of the multicooker there are special tongs (the manager in the store dissuaded me from them and said that they break very quickly, and they really look kind of flimsy) and there is a handle. The handle is very convenient to use, I have been using it for many years. But this option may not be suitable for pensioners.
Quote: vatruska
the instructions for Panasonic specifically say that it is undesirable to cool in a slow cooker ...
I also have it written in March MT1989.
Arnica
Quote: Marisha Aleksevna
and the silicone ones (which came with the kit) are idle
Usually plastic is included. Maybe in your model and silicone
Admin
Quote: Marisha Aleksevna

I also have it written in March MT1989.

Only the logic of these actions is not clear
You can keep it heated for many hours!
And you can't let the soup (liquid) cool down

Although both there and there, the temperature gradually decreases over several hours to a certain value, and when heated, even for a long time the food remains in the pan.

I can agree with this, with the harmfulness of the coating, if the food is constantly in the pan, even when cold in the refrigerator
In my opinion, it is advisable to cool the food until warm in a saucepan, and then pour it into glass-ceramic, and store it in the refrigerator. If by that time something remains in the pan, after dinner with the family
redleafa
I'll go and feel the instructions where it says that you can't cool it. But what about the long-term maintenance of heat ?!
RepeShock
Quote: redleafa
that it is impossible to cool.

This is also the first time I hear this .... when necessary, I leave it, all MVs work fine.
vatruska
Quote: redleafa
I'll go and feel the instructions where it says that you can't cool it. But what about the long-term maintenance of heat ?!
Girls, in fact, keeping the heat and cooling in the turned off device are a little different things ... My opinion is that in this case, condensation may form inside between the bowl and the heating element, there may be a danger that this condensate may short-circuit something during the subsequent inclusion?
While maintaining heat (including the languishing mode), the ten still works and the condensate evaporates ...


Added Wednesday 21 Dec 2016 08:11 PM

Quote: Larssevsk
someone carries it out with a five-liter pot full of soup
Just in an hour I will be doing this with a 5L bowl of borscht ... (and almost flush with the edges - I know you can't pour it like that - well, for some reason, it doesn't fit ...). If it works out, I'll try to shoot the whole thing on the phone ...
vernisag
Quote: vatruska
in this case condensation may form inside between the bowl and the heating element, can there be a danger that this condensate can short-circuit something when it is turned on again?
While maintaining heat (including the languishing mode), the ten still works and the condensate evaporates ...
Sorry, but this is complete nonsense
valushka-s
At home, only I take out a full pot of borscht (very carefully, not in a hurry), with two cloth tacks, no one else comes to my cartoons to take out the bowl. I put food from the multicooker into the plates, yes, and then I already manage what and where
And if the full bowl of the first one is left to cool in the cartoon, then it will take a very long time, and it is more convenient for me to put it outside the window, and if it has cooled down, transfer it, pour it, or put it in the refrigerator in the bowl.
Although, somehow, a couple of times when the multit was open, I covered the bowl with a lid, for a while. I really don't remember why, why, but that means I really needed it.
vatruska
vernisag, but I do not pretend ... I expressed my opinion ... I have written that it is impossible - I do not cool there, but why and why is not my business! The main thing is that it works and cooks the porridge well ... Instructions, in fact, are not fools either - and if it is impossible, then for some reason it is impossible ...
redleafa
Everything in cartoons always cools down for me. Everyone is working.
vernisag
Svetik, I, in no way, did not want to offend you Simply, the multicooker is so arranged that there can be no condensation on the heating element and it cannot get there in any way
I haven't seen this in the instructions for my cartoons, although to be honest, I haven't read them for a long time.
vatruska
Irina, yes, I was not offended, just well, nothing else comes to my mind why not cool it ??? Well, after all, really - turned it off, opened the lid and that's it ... but for some reason it was specially mentioned ...
selenа
While the food cools down in a slow cooker, like in a thermos, all kinds of bacteria begin to multiply in it, which is not good
Admin
Quote: selenа

While the food cools down in a slow cooker, like in a thermos, all kinds of bacteria begin to multiply in it, which is not good

And in an ordinary saucepan, on the stove, bacteria do not multiply? The food also cools under the lid, otherwise it will wind up and the flies will fly in for a swim
Then what's the difference between cooling in an ordinary saucepan under the lid on the stove, and in a slow cooker under the lid?
Food can last 4-6 hours "freshly cooked" after being cooked, but that doesn't mean it's spoiled when stored in the refrigerator. And in the "boiling water" microbes do not multiply, this is when it cools.
RepeShock

Why close the MV cover? I usually cover it with a suitable plate and leave a gap, I don't like it when food in a tightly covered dish cools down, steamed and becomes not tasty for me.
vatruska
In general, I fill in the recording from the phone "me and the tongs", the quality is not very good, and in general - it is very difficult to pull out the bowl with one hand and at the same time mow with an eye as it is filmed on the camera ...
🔗
RepeShock

vatruska, class, masterly!
Only very scary))))
vernisag
Abaldet With one hand, a full bowl
Thank you for the video
redleafa
I have such tongs for the Airfryer. With what fright Redmond added them to the cartoons - it is not clear. People of short stature, me kazza, it's unrealistic to pull out a pan like that from a multi. - do not raise your hands.
vatruska
Girls, thanks!
But really - it's okay !!! The bowl sits very confidently in the tongs and is very calmly taken out, with oven mitts and a towel - worse ... I myself did not dare for a long time - and now I only take out with tongs, look ...


Added Wednesday 21 Dec 2016 10:49 PM

redleafa, well, I don’t know ... I have had this Redmond for 5 years and the tongs were immediately included. Now there is another construction - I saw that one, but I didn’t try it myself.
Marina22
vatruska, I do that too. I still have the tongs from the airfryer. He has been gone for a long time, but the forceps are working.
Girls, it's really very simple.
valushka-s
Sveta, you are a brave woman!
It is more convenient for me to use potholders, I feel with my hands how I hold a bowl, and with such tongs I had a sad experience, though not related to mulvars. I don’t use these tongs anymore.
Pah-pah-pah! But boiling broth is scary !!! Burns healed for a long time, first wounds, then scars.
I was even scared to watch the video!
Larssevsk
Quote: valushka-s
I was even scared to watch the video!
Respect for Svetochka from me, but I will not do that.
Fotina
With these tongs, I only pull out frozen pizza (KhPshny crime) from the airfryer. Yes liter cans for canning. And I haven't tried 5 liters. But I'm a strong girl, I have to try)))
Irgata
Quote: vatruska
"me and the tongs"
no, no and NO - this is a guide how not to get complete a bowl of hot soup

the tongs are slippery, one hand, the bowl is not light, hot

and why? when there are 2 hands and fingers, a canvas that gives a strong grip, and not slippery metal rods
TTT, Sveta, on you, take care of yourself
Rituslya
I'm delirious to watch too. I had a lot of such forceps at one time, Redmond put them in cartoons, in AG, and elsewhere and everywhere. I think she gave them all away.
I once tried to pull out the empty bowl, but someone from the household distracted me, my hand twitched, and the bowl slipped out. No, I'm afraid too.
I have bowls with and without handles, but I never considered the lack of handles in the bowl as a disadvantage. I use a towel and some potholders, but I'm afraid of tongs too, yes.
vatruska, Svetochka, you are more careful there, please!
m0use
vatruska, Light, masterly, I would not have dared!
But make the link inactive, please
sveta-Lana
I did not dare to buy such tongs, although I have a 3-liter bowl, but still I'm afraid to do such manipulations
took myself removable Redmond handles, for me it is very convenient,
but sometimes I forget about them, when you need to quickly take out the potholders, it's okay too
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: sveta-Lana
took detachable Redmond handles for me, it's very convenient for me
I also have such a pen. I have been using it for a long time and it turns out great.
vernisag
Quote: Irsha
and why? when there are 2 hands and fingers, a canvas that gives a strong grip, and not slippery metal rods

Wildebeest
I also made very good friends with the removable Redmond pens.
vatruska
m0use, thanks, corrected!
Girls, this is the case here - I myself got out with towels while on the multicooker. ru the moderator did not post a video of the same type with a new type of forceps. You all saw them and you know what it is ... Well, I thought, thought ... and "bravely" picked up the EMPTY bowl with my tweezers (on the roller) - it worked! Then, no less "bravely" I conducted an experiment on a bowl of water (in the sink!) - it worked too! and that's all - now I take out everything with these tongs.
It was not in vain that I asked what kind of forceps I was talking about - I also have new ones, but let the developers forgive me - I'm afraid !!! In the old ones, I grip the bowl myself with the handles, but here ...
Unknown
And tell me, dear, and me a slow cooker.
I would like to thank the brave marketers as superficially as possible and buy more of an engineering product.
Will be the first in the family.

Considering Redmond and Polaris.

Modest requirements:
Volume 5 l
Inner bowl non-stick coating
Canceling the "Atoheating" function
> 850 W
> 180 C

2 aspects require clarification:

As I understand it, there is no point in overpaying for 45 preinstalled programs if there is a Multipovar function. I found the decryption of the program, drove it in - everything is the same, only not with one click, but with several.

I heard that cheaper models maintain the temperature like an iron. Not good. But I'm not ready to pay for induction.

The budget is ~ 5000. I will buy in Moscow time.


Added Thursday, 22 Dec 2016 5:52 PM

Anyone?
vernisag
Unknown, and what do you want, simple, round or more beautiful, modern design?
You do not quite understand about a multi-cook, there is linear heating, and on programs, a selected heating algorithm, adjusted specifically for this program of the same name
And we are not marketers, but simply users who have in stock a lot (3-16 pieces) of different multicooker and have an idea of ​​their quality and how they work.
And, a multicooker is not particularly needed 180C, 160 degrees is enough for frying. Baking is done at 110-120-130C, it is no longer needed, but only 100C is needed for cooking
Sedne
Irina, oh, how I bought the first multicooker, it's funny to remember, I ordered Shtebu dd1, then canceled the order, then I ordered Polaris 517, canceled the order, went to the Bread Maker, read Temki, ordered Shtebu xl with an extra bowl
vernisag
Svetik, I bought my first in passing in Auchan, 5 years ago, round Polaris with pink flowers I thought, what's the difference, I bought it and then I realized that I needed a multicooker with active frying, with a good bowl, there are more than six programs ..., well, away we go ...

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