Lagri
Clear. I would never risk putting them in food.
Alex1597
Lagri... I saw some of these powders on sale and here, this is blueberry powder, sold on the market in the store "My bread Bread Doma ", Japanese tea powder Matcha, oh-oh-very expensive, charcoal is sold in pharmacies in tablet form. Durian, spinach can be bought, but not in powder form. I also saw advertisements for other powders, but only for wholesale buyers.
sazalexter
Quote: Alex1597
These dyes are food themselves and can be eaten (photo taken from the store):
I do not believe the Chinese, with their chemical industry, the more deceive the laowai is revered for the achievement
andrewsanswer
Quote: Fantasta
andrewsanswer, then share the conclusion of the service center. It is interesting to hear about probable breakdowns

Well, in general, so. Today they called from the SC, said that the conclusion had arrived and they were ready to give me replacement documents. The cause of the breakdown was not told. I suspect that the relay contacts are burnt. I took the documents and went to the store. Our stove was not there. They offered a choice to order any with an additional payment or to take the money. I ordered Centek-1410 for a thousand more. I left the store and suddenly saw that a day ago an electronics store was opened nearby and there were opening discounts in it. I realized that I was in a hurry. Came back, canceled the order and took the money. Surprisingly, the money was returned immediately and in cash. In short, I bought myself a Midea BM-220Q3-W for 4300 rubles. Right now I go and think if I did the right thing? Sentek, like our oven, has a power of 650 W, while Midea has 580. But on the other hand, Midea has more baked goods. The agony of choice.
sazalexter
Quote: andrewsanswer
power is 650 W, while Midea has 580.
This is the power of TENA, which does not affect anything, any non-name HP is a lottery, it can serve for 5 years or maybe a little over a year, the only problem is that there is a breakdown, components cannot be found on them
Fantasta
andrewsanswer, I agree with sazalexter because all the Chinese-incomprehensible electrical goods are a pig in a poke. What they put in the filling, where they soldered to, we will only know when the device breaks.
Although already with proven brands as lucky. A friend of about 5 years already uses the Mulinex yogurt maker and squeaks with delight. On her advice, I bought the same one, so my teng gave out beyond the limit for yogurt for heating. The guarantee said - a factory defect and silently returned the money
Alex1597
When I was going to buy a bread maker, I considered different options, here are a few (I took the photo on the Internet).
French Moulinex:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Chinese Supor:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Here's another Chinese Supor:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
This is also Supor:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Its control panel:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Here are photos of the first generation buckets of these bread machines, and the second generation. Second generation bucket with more rounded shape:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
These bread makers are no longer available, but some of the vendors can still find some of them.





The bread makers above are among the cheapest. Here's a more expensive one:
Petrus PE9600WT, in China costs from 639 yuan (from 5979 rubles, 92.54 USD).
In the RF it is sold for 8,949 rubles (800 yuan).
Bread weight 500/750/1000 grams.
In addition to bread, you can make ice cream, yogurt, soup and something else.

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Can be controlled and received programs via WIFI:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Double heating element for uniform heating:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Five-layer bucket:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b

Parts are sold for this bread maker in Taobao.

Fantasta
Chinese are straight master of copies
Alex1597
Now I have free time to write about the bread maker. All summer he baked his usual rye-wheat bread Bread maker Delta dl-8007b # 183but something has changed.

Whole-grain rye flour appeared in the store at a price one third cheaper than peeled flour, now I use it. Kneading and baking bread is the same as with peeled bread, the taste is slightly different.

Instead of 132 g of water, I now use the same amount of whey.It has recently been sold in a store at a price several times cheaper than milk. The bread crumbles less and sticks to the knife less.

Now I dissolve the sugar in the whey so that it does not wear off the coating of the bucket. I use fine, extra salt. I still pour it on top of the flour.

I tried to use whole wheat flour, too, but did not like it, the dough is very tight for stirring, the bun does not work, it rises weakly, the bread hardens quickly during storage. But if you replace only part of the wheat flour with whole grain flour, 45 g out of 145 g, then it kneads normally, a bun is formed and rises. It differs slightly only in taste, but you should not bother with such a replacement.

Fantasta
After reading the message Alex1597 I also decided to share my impressions of using HP. I am more than satisfied with the device. From the moment of purchase I use it every week, no complaints.
The bucket is as good as new, everything is super coated.
On an ongoing basis, I bake only Borodino and Darnitsky GOST with sourdough. With yeast bread, hw + psh did not grow together, the taste is not like the one I'm used to. Therefore, I had to master the leaven.
I tried to bake sweet bread according to the recipe Lagri (hello to you Masha, and thank you very much) from another thread of the forum - very tasty, like a cake, with milk or cream with a bite, just grace!
Alex1597
Over the summer, the ordered silicone spatulas, a glass with double walls, a scale and an electric sieve arrived.

Silicone paddles (detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=44509817682) from the point of view of maintaining their cleanliness would be better made of solid silicone, not collapsible, but only these have found this size. The larger one turned out to be optimal for dumping the dough from the sides of the bucket. Together with the delivery from China and commission to the intermediary, two scoops cost $ 3.37, i.e. 221 rubles.

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Alex1597
Double-walled thermal glass tumbler (item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=585584755794). The yeast that I use is supposed to be dissolved in 100 g of warm water 35-38 ° C and kept in a warm place for 30 minutes. With such a glass, you don't need to look for a warm place. The yeast will not cool down in 30 minutes. For the photograph, I poured 100 g of karkade tea into a glass.

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Together with delivery from China and commissions to the intermediary, the glass cost $ 5.66, i.e. 370 rubles.
The inner part of such glasses can be of different shapes, for example, this photo from the Internet [id = 602936985765]:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Outside, these glasses are usually round.




Scales (detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=540213601542). Product code: hengben-I2000
The maximum weight is 500 g. The maximum error is 0.03 g. Two AAA batteries:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
The panel for the measured weight and the buttons are steel, the body is made of plastic.

During storage, two of the trays are combined with the scales and therefore do not take up additional space:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
I put the included waterproof sticker on the buttons and the screen on the scales so that flour and liquids do not get under the buttons and the screen:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Different configuration options are possible:
  • The maximum measurable weight can be selected from 100 g to 10 kg. Maximum measurement error with a maximum weight of up to 500 g inclusive: 0.03 g. Maximum measurement error with a maximum weight of 1 kg to 3 kg: 0.3 g. The dimensions of all scales are the same.
  • Power supply: AAA batteries 2 pcs. or USB.
  • Several options for trays of different sizes can be ordered with the scale.
  • The set may include a weight of 100 g to calibrate the balance.
  • The kit may include a waterproof sticker on the buttons and screen.
  • English version or Chinese version.

Scales from this store have the ability to set the time for the backlight to turn off when inactive (the backlight turns on automatically when the measured weight changes), calibrates the weighing accuracy, set the maximum measured weight and select different weighing units. In other stores, scales that look the same as these have different errors and different settings.

A 500 g scale with three different weighing trays, a 30 ml measuring cup, a waterproof sticker, a 100 g weight for calibration, powered by AAA batteries, cost about $ 15 (982 rubles), including shipping from China and commission to the intermediary. The instruction came in Chinese and English.

I liked the scales very much, there is no need to use measuring spoons (and no need to wash them after use). I use the smallest one when baking bread.
Alex1597
Weigh the flour in a 1100 ml polypropylene bucket:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
Alex1597
I checked the Endever Skyline MB-58 bread maker. She interested me as a replacement for the Delta DL-8007B in the event of a breakdown.
The appearance of this bread maker differs only in the color of the body. The bucket is exactly the same as that of the Delta, but the blade is of a different size and the hole in it is not through:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
There is no “Rye Bread” program in this bread maker, therefore for rye-wheat bread 60% / 40% of Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
In the Delta bread maker, I take out the bread when the temperature inside the dough reaches 98 ° C, there are 25-30 minutes left until the end of the program. In Endever, I waited until the end of the program as the dough temperature reached 98 ° C towards the end of the program.

Instead of the usual bun in Endever, when baking rye-wheat bread, you get this thing:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
After lifting, the bread is obtained either in the usual form, or from one side higher than from the other. If you use a Delta spatula, you get an ordinary kolobok.

The hole in the Endever blade is not through, you cannot hook it up with a hook and you cannot get it. Therefore, after the bread cooled down, I made an incision on the bottom of the loaf, broke it, and took out the spatula with my hands:

Bread maker Delta dl-8007b
In general, for me the Endever Skyline MB-58 after or instead of Delta is quite suitable. Only when baking rye-wheat bread is it advisable to replace the spatula.

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