Multicooker Brand

[Dear forum users! For the convenience of communication, a separate subsection has been created "Multicooker Brand". In the subject Multicooker Brandwe continue to discuss issues related to all models of Brand multicooker: model selection, comparison of models with each other, tips for solving technical problems and questions where and how to buy ..... Discussion of the operating modes and subtleties of cooking in each of the modelsMulticooker Brand 37300Multicooker Brand 37500Place the recipes in the corresponding subsections of the section "Multicooker. Rice cooker" marked in (Brand 37 .....).]

Dear forum users! For the convenience of communication, a separate subsection has been created "Multicooker Brand".

In the subject Multicooker Brandwe continue to discuss issues related to all models of Brand multicooker: model selection, comparison of models with each other, tips for solving technical problems and questions where and how to buy .....
Discussion of the operating modes and subtleties of cooking in each of the models

Multicooker Brand 37300

Multicooker Brand 37500

Place the recipes in the corresponding subsections of the section "Multicooker. Rice cooker" marked in (Brand 37 .....).



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She walked and stumbled:


Here is the situation. I had an airfryer from Brand and a waffle maker for thin waffles. Well, I'm telling this for those who do not walk in those topics. For the airfryer I paid about 3,500 rubles for that New Year. Their daughter played with them, well, for this new year I bought her the coolest, fancy one. That is, it did not break, I just bought it for the experiment, and changed it to a better one. And Brand now lives with friends. That daughter uses it.
The waffle iron is fine. But there are complaints about the same model as mine ... I think the waffles need to be baked in order to compare. I went to see what my model of the waffle iron was, and there, bam, the multicooker appeared. So I made them public.

But it's better, after all, to wait for feedback ... This is the first time I see these animals.

[Gypsy!]

Hello lovely girls!

I am an employee of the company "Brand", which owns the Brand trademark and which brings home appliances to Russia under this brand.
Accidentally stumbled upon your wonderful site and could not pass by.

Few answers to questions.

1. The Gypsy woman explained absolutely correctly.

right, the production of china .. and the company is Russian. Director of Russia of the company goes to China \ and you can also come to an agreement on the Internet \ to the factory, in the specific case to the firm Zhejiang SUPOR Electrical Appliances Manufacturing Co., Ltd. they give him a catalog of goods, the director chooses by price and so on .. agrees which label to slap on the face of the goods .. sign a contract and go ...

This is how it is. There is practically nothing to add ... well, perhaps, the product has to be adapted for a long time to the Russian market (preparation of Russian programs, translations, instructions, boxes, technical requirements, etc.)

2. About a large number of cooking modes.

Gypsy!In a small one, there is no rice, as such, but there is pilaf - do we equate? Or is it translation costs and will we assume that this is rice? 5 liter. programs buckwheat-millet parallelized. Meaning? Buckwheat and millet are cooked the same way. Once again The same soup and milk porridge. It seems, and in Panas, many cook milk porridge on the stew. I never stop Another tricky advertising move - the more progs the better?

There is no advertising move. It's just that the Chinese have only 6 modes of cooking rice AZH !!! It was necessary to select something familiar to our women. For three months we tried to adapt the model to Russian recipes.

P.S. We try very hard to bring good products to the market. We are ready to answer any of your questions and wishes. As for the multicooker, after admission, we are ready to provide FREE samples for, as they say, an independent assessment. For example Shpilke, (as far as I understand that you live in Moscow), in return for testing and recommendations for improvement.

With respect to all participants, Vadim Solynin

Hmm ... After Pudov it looks gorgeous !!!

Dear Vadim!

1. I almost agree.
2. What discount will we have? Well for the regular participants of the forum? I know them all!
3. And what about Ukraine? If they get a certain number of orders, can they send the car?
4.Do you have a mailing service for Russia?

Dear Vadim!

1. I almost agree.
2. What discount will we have? Well for the regular participants of the forum? I know them all!
3. And what about Ukraine? If they get a certain number of orders, can they send the car?
4. Do you have a mailing service in Russia?

1. Thank you for almost agreeing. And what does "almost" depend on?
2. If you give a list of permanent participants of the forum, then we will give about 20% discount, that is, at wholesale prices.
3. I am not ready to say about Ukraine (I need to clarify), as far as I understand, there are customs problems. If they come to Moscow, then no problem.
4. Of course there is a mailing service in Russia.

P.S. Right now I am in China. It was today that I was at a plant producing multicooker ... I wanted to consult with you. There is a multicooker model at a low price, but there are fewer cooking modes. Does it make sense in a large number of modes? What is the most important thing in a multicooker, and what is not especially necessary?

[Fugaska]

Many thanks to all beautiful girls for your interest.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of things to do and travel around China, so it will not be possible to enter the forum often and answer questions in a timely manner, but I guarantee that I will not miss a single message.

Answers on questions:

Oh, I completely forgot about the regime. It seems to me that you need a Free mode + a spare pan included + a removable lid ... + the ability to switch modes without disabling the previous mode ...

1. Of course, you can put a spare pot, but this will greatly affect the cost of the multicooker, and this is contrary to the company's pricing policy.
2. Removable cover. Nice idea, but ...! In the Brand37500 model, a heating element is built into the lid (for 3D cooking) and there are wires to it, so you cannot remove it. But this cover has a special removable plate on the bottom. It gets dirty during cooking, and then it is simply removed and washed. If I understand correctly, this is more convenient than removing the entire cover.
3. The ability to switch modes without disabling the previous mode, I'll try to clarify ... And what is it for?

mom dear! But I'm going to Moscow in a week !!!!!!!!!! I already understood about discrimination against Ukraine - customs is a serious matter, but in Moscow I can also "test", together with Shpilka, for the sake of such a thing ... !!!!! )))

Sorry dear Fugaska in a week our multicooker will not be in Moscow yet. We expect it to arrive in the second half of May ... but there is also good news, since two models of multicooker are coming, you can share them with Hairpin. The second model, in the same way, will be provided free of charge and without return to the company, in exchange for testing and recommendations for improvement.

I also want to say on the cartoon, I completely agree with Tsyganka, the modes - stewing, cooking, baking and rice, are the most popular, I used buckwheat a couple of times, milk porridge - never.
The timer is simply necessary and it would be desirable to protect against voltage drops, otherwise the outfit jumps and the program is immediately reset in Panasika.

Surge protection is already included in our Brand37300 and Brand37500 models. Even with a complete disconnection from the electricity for a period of 3 to 10 seconds, the program does not get lost and continues to work after the energy is restored.

... Oh, here's another thing. Vadim! I can't give back everything that I take for testing! Because according to the consumer law, cooking appliances that have been used for the same cooking cannot be returned! And I am LEGAL !!! ...

OF COURSE! ... it was not even in my thoughts to take the multicooker from you.
P.S. We are scheduled to visit two exhibitions of household appliances this month. One in Hong Kong, the other in China itself. We will try very hard to take into account your wishes, girls, and of course our capabilities ...
About the multicooker modes. We have the opportunity to create any cooking program that YOU, our beautiful girls, need. But, unfortunately, we have little understanding of your needs.Therefore, it would be ideal - WE WANT THE FOLLOWING:
1. EXTINGUISHING mode. This is 50 minutes at 100 degrees, 60 minutes at 50 degrees, etc. (all numbers in my example are arbitrary ...)
2. BAKING mode. This is 30 minutes at 200 degrees, 10 minutes at 100 degrees, etc. (all numbers in my example are arbitrary ...)
3.and so on ...
and we will do everything the way you want and even write on the boxes and in the instructions the names of those who will be especially distinguished ...

Oh, I also want to shake hands with a Brand representative! The man approached the question seriously. Read-studied our chatter, our forum, I identified the Spire as a lost device. And rightly so - Hairpin - multicooker. She will not hide anything from the people. The meters have already figured out the modes, but for the cover, perhaps, you are in vain worried. They are all removable there, even at rice cookers for 3 kopecks. I don’t know what your beloved Panas was so disappointed in. Hear here, my YUMMI



And this is a rice cooker, which has 2 buttons (porridge and juice) and its lid is completely unfastened. Well, I congratulate you all, it looks like the analogs we dreamed of are getting better (Panas will still get cheaper - the objective law of the market. Gee-gee)

[Fugasca]

1. Switching modes is convenient when cooking, for example, pilaf. There are variations of Stewing and Baking. Well, that is, when in recipes they write either a weak fire, then a strong one ... This is me spoiled by MultiHotter.
2. On testing two different multicooker, we Fugasca + 7 multicooker a month with a 20% discount I agree. Why 7? If you ask for a lot, they won't give anything at all. But this is not just 7, but 7 per month. Term - 2 months. Well, this is the period when we will use it actively. I have a bunch of them ... well, multicooker ... This is the fourth ...

Dear Vadim! I have a technical question. As far as I understand, in the proposed "saucepan" there are two shades: one is built into the lid, and the second appears to be at the bottom. the question is - is the heating temperature the same for both heating elements or can different heating be programmed?

[Vadim]

Is it okay if I answer you here, as I think?

There is no concept of temperature. There is a concept of stress. And the voltage depends on the area of ​​the heating elements. And the area there cannot be the same ... or it can hardly be ...

There's a programmable controller inside. A programmable (firmware) controller is such a garbage that has a certain number of inputs and outputs. Well, more precisely, the more inputs and outputs, the more expensive it is. Inputs and outputs are binary and analog. Binary is a type of boolean expression. Truth or lie. Yes or no. And analog ones are those that can read / send proportional values. A Vadim offers to give out our wishes. And see if that controller has enough inputs and outputs. But is it possible to somehow order the operating modes of the upper heating elements ... as the lower ones ... probably we can ... but on a sober head ...

[rice porridge]

Using my multicooker as an example, I will answer - I have 6 modes - rice porridge (definitely needed)
soup- boils hard, never cook soup.
extinguishing - very necessary, necessary, first to use
bakery products- the second for use, nada
potatoes- a tribute to the Russian market, boils strongly, analogue of prog soup. It is puzzling. Well, sometimes I cook vegetables. let it be. A cross between baking and stewing.
For a couple - it is necessary.
There is also heating, but preferably not so active, so that it would be suitable for fermented baked milk and for yogurt. (Now 80 degrees. True, it is gaining gradually in 2 hours)

We probably want this:

Proofing - 30 degrees;
Yogurt (food warmer) - 38-40 degrees;
Languor (medium) - 60 degrees;
Quenching (hi) - 80 degrees;
Cooking - 100 degrees;
Baking - 120 degrees;
Frying - 140 degrees;
Free - 155 degrees;

Machine:
Rice
Pilaf

Well, that's me, I gave the first approximation ... So that there was something to scribble ...
I looked at my post and ... with horror I realized that we do not need automation ... we need a twist with written degrees ...

But how Plov works and Rice ... I still do not understand ... I will go read it again ...

[set the temperature]

And what prevents from setting two temperature regimes? I think that it is quite possible to talk about proofing and yogurt.Eh, if you could just set the desired temperature, like some microwave ovens (dreamily)
I think if there was an opportunity set the temperature then a large number of programs could have been avoided - set myself 35 degrees for five hours and walk ...

girls, we have cracked a lot of things here, and it is quite difficult to fish out useful technical information from our flood (even though it is on business, and even technically competent, well, flood in the sense of :))
let's better outline our general wishes, and empower the Hairpin for this - I think she can handle it by%! ))
Here are my personal wishes, not fully formulated (I don't have time, damn it), but the main ones:
1) delay (timer) in any mode, even just baking or stewing
2) protection against voltage drop for at least 10 minutes
3) the ability to reset the program without using a brazenly pulled out cord from the socket
4) the possibility of separate control of the temperature regime of the lid (Hairpin, let it be power - no matter what you call it! The main thing is a simple interface). it can be a button for selecting the crust fries or a choice of temperature conditions - what the microcircuit will pull
5) well, if you laugh, then I would also like the new cartoon to somehow combine a bread maker, a multicooker, a yogurt maker, an ice maker, a chocolate maker, a food processor, a meat grinder, an air conditioner, an exercise bike and at the same time a lip-rolling structure! ))))))))))))))))

And where will we get the reprieve?

If there is a mechanic (to set the temperature with a knob), then a regular external timer will start and stop. But this is already driving me in ... I need, of course, a built-in timer in a saucepan ... both with a delay and with a shutdown. So, you can't get away from electronics.

[Rina72]

Rina72, manual, but electronic, like on a microwave - choose the required power (we have a temperature) and go ...
Guys and girls - ten in a pan alone, and with the author. mode and with just manual selection of the temperature - the heating element will be on / off to maintain the set temperature.
I am skeptical about automatic modes - they work in cartoons only on porridge modes (and where do we take into account different varieties of cereals and different consistencies, which we want?)

[Vadim]

P.S. Right now I am in China. It was today that I was at a plant producing multicooker ... I wanted to consult with you. There is a multicooker model at a low price, but there are fewer cooking modes. Does it make sense in a large number of modes? What is the most important thing in a multicooker, and what is not especially necessary?

Vadim, while here we all suffered .. I want to go back. If this inexpensive rice cooker has *extinguishing*, which can be extended for an hour, two, three, etc., + program *rice* then in Russia she will always find her buyer! I'm just sure of this, because European cuisine is built mainly on stewing. Both the first and the second and compote
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P. S. will repeat myself again now in this thread, in my fancy rice cooker there is no *baking*, but the instructions indicate that baking is done on the program * rice *, the pies from my rice cooker come out great on the prog * rice * This is what you would know that there is a program in the rice cooker *bakery products* from the evil one

[Hairpin!]

Hairpin! Since you are entrusted with testing and compiling lists for the distribution of cartoons, then please, you can turn on our YUKKU.(all the more she has an opportunity from there) She multivariated all of Ukraine, received a lot of thanks in words for this, but give the child the cartoon in hand! Worthy, ask anyone? God knows, I'm not asking for myself (I already have one with a pen. And when my husband heard today how I was negotiating with the Kiev internet store for sending an electric frying pan, he said doomily that it was necessary to pick the wall for new nails) Bollivar could not stand two! Still only a roster ...

Vadim, while here we all suffered .. I want to go back. If this inexpensive rice cooker has *extinguishing*, which can be extended for an hour, two, three, etc., + program *rice* then in Russia she will always find her buyer! I'm just sure of this, because European cuisine is built mainly on stewing.Both the first and the second and compote
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PS I will repeat myself again now in this thread, in my fancy rice cooker there is no *baking*, but the instructions indicate that baking is done on the program * rice *, the pies from my rice cooker come out great on the prog * rice * That you would know that there is a program in the rice cooker *bakery products* from the evil one

I also agree - rice, stewing, baking. But Vadim himself said that they have 6 cooking modes for rice (we know this, we have encountered it). So these 6 buttons will need to be adapted somewhere. Or is it possible to optimize the cost of the buttons? Well, by God then ... we're all for it. Moreover, the price of the pan as a whole is minimized. It's high time to realize that an electric pan, even stuffed with electronics, cannot cost 200-300 bucks.

Yes, if it is possible to set the temperature and time of programs, you will need four at most (rice, stewing, milk porridge, soup). Everything else is beautifully exposed.
You can even get by with two programs, and leave the rest under control - the choice of function (temperature, time, delay), more / less, or temperature and time.
By the way, bread makers have not so simple programs (at least four or six actions in a certain period of time). And then there are programmable bread makers.
Why are there no programmable electric pans ?! Discrimination! I want to set the launch in two hours, heating up to 100 degrees, after 10 minutes, reducing the heating and two hours by 70! And so that it can be programmed and recorded (the 450-kenwood has 5 user programs!).
I want to put 160 degrees for baking for 20 minutes, and then 180!

I read this topic here, barely keeping up with the answers that appear ... I thought: for example, it is not so important for me mechanics or electronics, and whether there are a million modes in the multitask ... It turned out that this is important:
1. So that there was a button "Turn off-turn on" - so as not to remove it from the socket and the oven did not strain in standby mode.
2. So that there is a good coating of the saucepan - shockproof and dishwasher safe
3. The volume of 5-7 liters (it is these volumes that are vital to me - and a lot, not a little)
4. Protection against voltage surges - yes! ..
5. Save the program for 10 minutes in the event of a power outage.
6. There is already a washable insert on the lid (I remember this for the sake of order), but the modes ... Heating 30C, Stewing, Baking, Rice, Grech - I'm used to this in Panasonic. I will not be offended if there is something other than this - here I am unassuming.
7. And also so that the color is non-marking (fingerprints do not remain and the body can be easily cleaned) and the signal of readiness is not like a fire siren. And of course, the biggest advantage that should be preserved with all this is the price !!!
That's all that came to my mind so far.

[Vadim!]

Vadim!
Please don't forget the modes Milk porridge and Buckwheat! In general, it would be nice to have all the same standard programs as in Panasonic.
For me, as for many others, the multicooker is good because there are certain programs in it that do not require my presence when cooking. He pressed the button and left. But!!! if, in addition to this, there is a possibility of simple programming: set the temperature and time, then it will be just a multicooker from multicooker! And it will meet the needs of the most demanding user.
It would be good if the heating could also be turned off in advance.

[Girls! Today I read yesterday with a fresh mind and realized that we want a lot for little money]

P.S. Right now I am in China. Exactly today I was at the plant producing multicooker ... I wanted to consult with you. There is a multicooker model at a low price, but there are fewer cooking modes. Does it make sense in a large number of modes?

Girls! Today I read yesterday with a fresh mind and realized that we want a lot for little money... Rina is right - we have practically created the ideal model of a multicooker. And a person already has a multicooker in mind (written clearly). In this regard, a question to Vadim -
- how many modes are there (namely, how many buttons, to put it simply)?
Many of us have in use pots with a minimum of two or three buttons.There are rice modescook, soup-porridge, heating-warm (in Comfort), and in Klatronic there is no soup - only rice and heating. But we do everything in them. We even bake. They cost in our market about 30 to 50u. e. And are called rice cookers. Now I will find their interface.

[rice]

Well, as a first approximation, I got something like:



And in the second:



Then I push the rest of the buttons ... But, as I understand it, they are not discussed. These are the main ones. A rice need all six !!! We will then figure out where we drain ...

Well, that's what we are discussing. My first picture is what Vadim can do without any problems (well, as I understand it).

But then it makes sense to pose the question like this:
1. How much will it cost more if you keep the program for 10 minutes?
2. As for the protection against overheating, I didn't quite understand.
3. Well, how much more expensive if there is a lever on / off.

But what about the spinners is quite interesting. This option, in theory, should be cheaper, but why doesn't anyone make such? Probably, there is a troubleshooter that I do not see ...

And here is the wish Fugasca it doesn't even make sense to ask how much it costs to combine the first picture with the second. It will be enough to clarify the dimensions of this unit and ...

There are 13 prog. Hence the question, is it necessary so much? Prog is necessary, but the volume is not too big? 5 liters of dough is one, and five liters of yogurt ...

Well, I'm at its base and fantasize !!! Here's another fantasy:


Well, in order not to adapt for us, calling brown rice pilaf, but to leave both names, and the type of rice, and the adapted version.

13 programs is certainly a bit much, but I think the volume is suitable. I have a 4.5L Panas, I can't think of it as big! 0.5 liters of big weather do not, so I think the volume is suitable. by the way, model 37300 has a smaller volume, but I don't remember exactly how much

Girls, do not throw your slippers right away, but that's what I thought. We will not wait for the temperatures of different types of rice to be thrown from the sky, but we will start from our multicooker. I'll start with the Multichotter, what doesn't suit me in it? He has temperatures:
bain-marie - 48-50C, languor - 80C, cooking - 102C, frying - 145C, deep fat - 155C. I am not satisfied with the food warmer, because I have to make yoghurt with the lid half open and with a tea towel on top. The maximum temperature, which is also optimal for yoghurt, is 43C.
Now many people want to have baked goods instead of deep fat. Therefore, I think that we need to make two types of multicooker: one with baked goods, and the other with deep fat. And there the hostesses will decide which one to buy before their bells and whistles.

[Jelen]

Jelen, but that multicooker has 13 buttons. 6 - in rice, and the rest are ours. That is, we can choose seven modes.
30
40
80
105
140
155

and one more!!!

So why two types if everything can be combined? Or am I not catching up with something?

I won't argue about 40 - 43, I don't understand such intricacies. Yes, and I have a yogurt maker.

I understand so. There is a model 37500. A piece of paper with a translation was glued to her face. So the issue of replacing a piece of paper is not fundamental. But when a certain button is pressed, a command is sent to the controller to maintain a certain temperature A. It is also not important to reflash the controller and replace temperature A with temperature B. But the heating elements may not understand the temperature required for fries. But the replacement of heating elements is already fundamental. This will have a big impact on the cost. And the wallet costs money ... And will the free cover withstand ...

But we can definitely get a program for proofing and yogurt.

IMHO.

[Vadim]

Hello lovely girls.
Yes! You can't leave you for a long time, then you won't figure out what you ended the conversation with last time ... And it's not in vain that you have bread as a moderator, deletes messages easily, then you won't find the end.

Answers first:

Dear Vadim! I have a technical question. As far as I understand, in the proposed "saucepan" there are two shades: one is built into the lid, and the second seems to be at the bottom. the question is - is the heating temperature the same for both heating elements or can you program different heating?

There are three heating elements.The first (main) at the bottom, the second (in the form of a belt) at the side and the third at the top in the lid. This is the so-called Chinese - 3D heating. Different heating cannot be programmed. The total temperature in the pan is analyzed.

... Probably, automatic programs in cartoons change the temperature by themselves during one program. Two "twists" will not be able to do this. We appreciate the fact that they themselves decide when and what temperature to give.

Absolutely correct understanding of the work and task of multicooker.

Vadim, ... If this inexpensive rice cooker has *extinguishing*, which can be extended for an hour, two, three, etc., + program *rice* then in Russia she will always find her buyer! I'm just sure of this, because European cuisine is built mainly on stewing ...

Specify, please, for what maximum time is it necessary to make it possible to extend the EXTINGUISHING mode?

... But then it makes sense to pose the question like this:
1. How much will it cost more if you keep the program for 10 minutes?
2. As for the protection against overheating, I didn't quite understand.
3. Well, how much more expensive if there is a lever on / off.
...

In the current Brand37300 and Brand37500 models, it will be expensive to insert a hold for 10 minutes. But I don’t understand why it took so long? 10 minutes is no longer a power surge, this is a complete shutdown.
We will put the switch on / off. This is quite possible for a slight increase in price.

It seems to me that we are again distorting the situation. I understand that there is a certain assortment from which we can choose and change a little. For example, inscriptions on the face and the heating temperature of some modes. But hardly anyone will do something according to our order ...

Why not? What else should a manufacturer focus on if not on orders from buyers. I see two ways and both are quite feasible:

1. Now two models of multicooker have been produced and are sailing to Moscow - Brand37300 and Brand37500. I propose to wait for the receipt, take samples, test and, based on the tests, make a decision on what needs to be corrected and improved.

2. I propose to create a completely new model. That is, not adapted for Russia, but from scratch. 100% according to the needs of our girls. This development will cost us, of course, more expensive, but we will be able to offer really popular equipment. In this direction, I propose to develop further discussion, and we will try to make the price affordable, that is, no more than $ 100-150 retail.

I felt a little sad ... lga, zvezda, dopleta, me and many others, probably ... We seem to live in the second capital, but there is no brand representative in our city. At least on the main Moscow site, nothing is said about this.
Vadim, do you want to open a branch in St. Petersburg?

Of course we want, we are working on it, we hope that we will be soon

P.S. I am returning to Moscow from China on April 21, 2010, and based on the results of the exhibition, I have interesting news, as I hope, for forum readers, but not related to Brand multicooker. Please tell me which section is better to leave messages so that the moderator does not rub them as inappropriate.

Best regards, Vadim Solynin

Please specify for what maximum time it is necessary to make the EXTINGUISHING mode prolongation possible?

Hello Vadim.

It is difficult to answer exactly, since all housewives have their own recipes and their favorite dishes. Many people like to cook jellied meat (girls, how long do you cook it?), And if I cook something for a long time, I do it in a slow cooker, turn it on and go to bed before going to bed, and in the morning everything is ready, the food is served
In my small rice cooker sanyo slow cook can be extended up to 8 hours, but I have never cooked that much, the usual food is 1, 2, 3 hours no more.

Also, if you can add wishes, then on the forum you can see that many people like to cook several dishes at the same time, that is, they prefer that the sieve for the double boiler should be placed on top in the rice cooker, and not on the bottom, as, for example, in mine.

I, too, have not extinguished anything for 8 hours yet, a maximum of 6 hours for jellied meat, and the rest is the same, 2-3 hours, but I think maybe let a maximum of 8 remain, who knows, maybe someone needs it ...

I need. I am carcassing lamb in a slow cooker for 6-8 hours. Lamb can be cooked and not stewed. There is no other. So the maximum heating period, in my opinion, should be 6-8 hours.

But I personally don't need 10 minutes ... 10 seconds to drag from one table to another is enough for me.

About a new topic. Since the new topic is not an advertising one, but a discussion-dreamy-lip-rolling one, I propose to open it at the farm of the geisha Basia. Well, more precisely, I will open it there myself, and here I will throw a link. Well, if anything, let my elders geisha comrades will correct.

Will we discuss the time of the Baking program?

For example, 65 minutes in a Panasonic MV is not enough for me (not everything is baked during this time and I have to restart the program).

Can our favorite "maniac" colors be taken into account in choosing the color of the saucepan?

As for baking, for sure, sometimes it is not enough, 15-20 minutes have to be given (at least to me) 75-80 minutes would be good.

[Louise]

1. 65 minutes is not enough for me either ...
2. Louise, are you suggesting to make it orange? Well then I want her to be white-blue-red ... And then she will come running Tanya1962 and the Chinese will have to draw a sickle and a hammer on a red multicooker ...
3. By colors. Hotter has a multi-colored ruler. As I see u Silena orange MultiHotter ... I'm not against Ukraine, I just prefer cold, calm tones. White, gray, steel ...

Vadim, if your multicooker comes with an additional saucepan (of course, with a reasonable increase in price, and it is included in the kit, and not as a spare part) - all customers will be yours!

Girls, she doesn’t need this extra saucepan, just the saucepan itself must be of good quality, IMHO
I bought metal containers with lids, I pour the cooked into them, no problem. Moreover, not one, but a lot was very inexpensive.
here they are

and inexpensive is how much money? my inexpensive (100 bucks) saucepan is very good quality, titanium coated and thick

Hello, can you add me to the lists? Well, if you welcome interested readers, of course, but in general - please do not forget that if the product is aimed at the broad masses, then it is necessary to provide that it will be difficult for a user who is not prepared by previous generations of multicooker to "read between the lines" 1 or rice 2 - you can bake, for example. I, as an unprepared user, vote for the maximum number of modes to be included there (since I cannot buy a lot of equipment at home due to lack of space). And since the baking mode often requires switching the temperature - of course, it is reasonable to add sequential programming of modes there. And also - I would really count on the function of a pressure cooker and a slow cooker, and deep-frying and baking bread ... In general, this miracle machine will acquire a larger number of users if non-trivial modes for a conventional stove are combined there into one.
As for the design, I think that the main line should be in neutral themes, but removable panels with various designs (I really liked it with the theme of nature) can be sold separately, for example, as well as additional inserts, for example, with a dough mixer ...

Thank you for such an inspiring attitude!

girls, with great pleasure I re-read Temka very cool sentences sounded, I want to list those that I support with both hands:

1) BAKING mode - T = 180C, 90 minutes maximum duration, 10 minutes - minimum. from the minimum step - 5 minutes

2) EXTINGUISHING mode - I don’t know, but to be able to delay the start, to set it at night; maximum duration - 8 hours

3) YOGURT mode - T = 35-43C

4) DISTANCE mode - Т = 28-30С, duration - up to 2.5 hours, set from 1 hour, step 15 minutes

5) mode MILK Porridge, buckwheat - standard, don't know T

6) SAVING THE PROGRAM - 1 minute is enough for me, rearrange to the next table

these are the dreams

[Tanya1962]

Well, I'm telling you. We went with Tanya1962 in Brand. Vadim really turned out to be a cute boy. And there was also a boy named Admin, to whom I tried to formulate our wishes. It was difficult to retell everything that we have written here from memory, but I oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I formulated the modes, as I remembered, only in Frying / Baking I got confused. Two multicooker (Fugaskin and mine) were already in boxes, but Vadim Tanyu1962 also gifted. It looks like there were only two of them, so he took Tanya from the window.
At the very end, Admin said one smart thing. It's not that he hadn't said anything smart before, it's just that I hadn't thought about it before. Proofing / Yogurt Modes are the top tier. And consumers suffer more from ill-conceived little things ... These are the little things they are primarily interested in.
The main problem was that I expected to test for two months without rushing. And they have an order for a new batch in a week. And I just cooked the soup and stewed chicken and potatoes before leaving.
Well, here are these multicooker:

Left and right are mine, and in the center - Fugaskin... But to decide which one is mine and which one Fugaskin it was difficult. When I drove back, I was firmly convinced that Fugaske I will send a large one. According to the Carlson principle. When I unpacked both and began to examine, the division of the porridge regime into rice / millet / buckwheat, and then the division of rice into different varieties was terribly interested. After all, it takes a week for testing, and Fugasca will receive his not earlier than in three weeks. But then I remembered that Vadim said he needed to test both, and Tanya - large. So I need to test the small one. Well, I pressed both buttons on them:

And here I was at a loss. On small modes like pilaf - automatic (well, they do not require setting the time), and on large - on pilaf, you need to specify the time ... And it seems that milk porridge also takes time. I can't say anything further.
I tell you further. Vadim said a very interesting thing. I thought that he was still interested in advertising, but he said that in this case he was interested in exactly the flaws! That is, he will be grateful for the flaws found, and not for laudatory reviews.
Well, then I have the following plans:

Here is a photo of the pan. I have no ceramic coated pots. There is just a ceramic ... Well, the fact that Panasonic's saucepan is very vulnerable, we all remember well. But it is also very non-stick. Mueslik wrote that her biscuit burned out there. Into the coal. And the coating - not a fig. So let's start testing the coating for non-stickiness ... on oatmeal. Tomorrow I will put two cereals in Panasonic and Brand and compare the results.
I frantically think about what else you can check non-stickiness without Baking ...

Well, in general, all suggestions are welcome !!!

[Hairpin!]

Hairpin! This is my saucepan at YUMMI. Does Brenda have the same outside? Not like Panas - luminous? And yet - did you remove the lid, cut it off? Is it removable? And what about 3D heating? There, not even the lid itself comes unfastened, but an insert.
Rina, this is not a viewing window. This is such a valve on top of her concrete modern. These Panasovsky drip collectors are no longer relevant.

Why are drip pans not relevant? Doesn't steam collect at all on the lid?

[Hairpin!]

Hairpin! About the removable insert, look carefully
In, I still found, the gypsy threw

, but it seemed to me from the photo that the cover is removable. is not it so? There are no pictures in the instructions for this?
Isn't it filmed like this?

K In modern models later than Panas, valves are already everywhere. They are collapsible, modified. The substance sometimes dripping from the side of the pan is not familiar to them.

So in PANAS, the drip collector collects water not from the valve (by the way, it is also collapsible), but from the opening lid.

And yet - did you remove the lid, cut it off? Is it removable? And what about 3D heating? There, not even the lid itself comes unfastened, but an insert.

For example, in Toshiba, the lid heats up, but the lid itself heats up, and the insert-lid is removed for washing, like this:

So in PANAS, the drip collector collects water not from the valve (by the way, it is also collapsible), but from the opening lid.

The valve and drip tray are 2 in one. It is arranged differently and carries the load of both the valve and the drip tray (although there is no condensate as such). I know what I'm writing about - I have a simple rice cooker with a drip tray, and a multicooker (complicated rice cooker) without.

The valve and drip tray are 2 in one.

In PANAS, these are two different pribluda. The valve is on the lid, and the drip tray is on the side, under the lid mount. valve

Good day, ladies and gentlemen.

My name is Admin and I am a Brand employee. as you already understood, reading the posts from above ... I had a personal, informative conversation with your colleagues in the forum.
After spending about 2 hours in dialogues about food and its preparation in multicooker, we came to the following conclusions. About what needs to be added / changed and, in general, how I would like to see the following programs / moments / nuances.

1) DISTANCE mode (for raising the dough) Temperature 28-30C, duration -60-90 minutes. * Reading the post above I saw that it is necessary up to 2.5 hours - I ASK YOU to vote (reasonably). What should be the min / max time.
Threat exactly this word should be written on the button / instruction? will it be clear to everyone? I will add on my own - I heard it for the first time yesterday! can "dough"?

2) YOGURT mode - Temp - 35-42C - for making yogurt. as I understand it cannot be exceeded max the rate is 42 degrees - since all bacteria will die. on time from 6 hours to 20 hours. maximum.

3) EXTINGUISHING mode - temp. - 80 - 100 degrees. maximum time - 8 hours
Shl time min / max once again I ask you to clarify. (Again, by reasoned voting)

4) STEALING mode - temp. 60 - 80 gr. over time is not known. we need your data.

5) BAKING mode. in our conversation, baking was equated with frying. pace - 115 degrees. I ask you to express your opinion on the similarity of the modes. also define the time interval.

6) FRYING mode - 150 - 180 degrees. time 30 min. (now I am figuring out the technical possibility of increasing the tempo. to such a mark ...)

ALL THESE MODES MUST BE SEPARATE BUTTONS.

Standard modes were not considered due to their simplicity.

nuances:
a) saved programs - MANDATORY.
b) baking mode is required for a 3 liter model.
c) container for condensate for 3 liters. - be sure to add (please clarify)
d) manual mode with any edits temp./time.

In general, we are waiting for tests of our product and in fact it will already be clear what and how.

PS Glad to communicate with you, I hope for cooperation and understanding.
* I promise to visit regularly.

Admin, good day!

1) DISTANCE mode (for raising the dough) Temperature 28-30C, duration -60-90 minutes. * Reading the post above I saw that it is necessary up to 2.5 hours - I ASK YOU to vote (reasonably). What should be the min / max time.
Threat exactly this word should be written on the button / instruction? will it be clear to everyone? I will add on my own - I heard it for the first time yesterday! can "dough"? Dough from 30 minutes to 1.5 hours .. and I don’t know, there’s no window .. lest the dough run away

2) YOGURT mode - Temp - 35-42C - for making yogurt. as I understand it cannot be exceeded max the rate is 42 degrees - since all bacteria will die. on time from 6 hours to 20 hours. maximum. 4 to 10 maximum. 20 hours my opinion is useless.

3) EXTINGUISHING mode - temp. - 80 - 100 degrees. maximum time - 8 hours
Shl time min / max once again I ask you to clarify. (Again, by reasoned voting) minimum 30 minutes - 1 hour, maximum for me 3 hours. But my rice cooker has a maximum of 6 hours like.

4) STEALING mode - temp. 60 - 80 gr. over time is not known. we need your data. till 12 o'clock

5) BAKING mode. in our conversation, baking was equated with frying. pace - 115 degrees. I ask you to express your opinion on the similarity of the modes.also define the time interval. (in my rice cooker, baking is normally obtained on the program * rice *, draw your own conclusions)

6) FRYING mode - 150 - 180 degrees. time 30 min. (now I am figuring out the technical possibility of increasing the tempo. to such a mark ...) For me, a completely unnecessary program. This is junk food.

ALL THESE MODES MUST BE SEPARATE BUTTONS.

Standard modes were not considered due to their simplicity.

nuances:
a) saved programs - MANDATORY.
b) baking mode is required for a 3 liter model.
c) container for condensate for 3 liters. - be sure to add (please clarify) What for? I don't have it and I don't suffer for it
d) manual mode with any edits temp./time.

So. I wanted to add more! every cookbook says time and temperature! I would like to adapt your data for a multicooker (hereinafter MB).
let's say ... * example - you know for sure that 180 degrees for the baking mode is a lot and everything will burn out. and 8 hours would be meaningless for him too. need averaged data! let's say what is the minimum / maximum / optimal threshold for temperature and time. I would like to collect such data. average and apply in practice

[For me in nuances]

For me in nuances - G- manual mode would solve many questions. Including proofing of dough - why is there an automatic machine? And in baked goods too ..

Additive - in my YUMMI multicooker, the baking mode lasts 20 minutes and the step with which you can add + 5 minutes.

So. I wanted to add more! any cookbook says the time and temperature! I would like to adapt your data for a multicooker (hereinafter MB).
let's say ... * example - you know for sure that 180 degrees for the baking mode is a lot and everything will burn out. and 8 hours would be pointless for him too. need averaged data! let's say what is the minimum / maximum / optimal threshold for temperature and time. I would like to collect such data. average and apply in practice

Somewhere we already talked about this, and it seems that even Shpilka wrote and explained that it is impossible to equate, for example, an oven and a rice cooker, and the temperatures for baking will be different .. since in a rice cooker (figuratively) a closed and crowded heating system, the shadows are closer to the pan, which means it will warm up faster and faster .. then the steam is not lost as much as in the oven. In general, different things, the approach to temperatures should be different.