Luysia
Admin Brand, so far such thoughts:

Quote: Admin Brand

1) DISTANCE mode (for raising the dough) Temperature 28-30C, duration -60-90 minutes. * Reading the post above I saw that it is necessary up to 2.5 hours - I ASK YOU to vote (reasonably). What should be the min / max time.
Threat exactly this word should be written on the button / instruction? will it be clear to everyone? I will add on my own - I heard it for the first time yesterday! can "dough"?

The name "Dough" is more successful than "Proofing". 30 minutes to 2 hours

2) YOGURT mode - Temp - 35-42C - for making yogurt. as I understand it cannot be exceeded max the rate is 42 degrees - since all bacteria will die. on time from 6 hours to 20 hours. maximum.

Different starter cultures require different times (from 3 hours to 12 hours)

3) EXTINGUISHING mode - temp. - 80 - 100 degrees. maximum time - 8 hours
Shl time min / max once again I ask you to clarify. (Again, by reasoned voting)

min 30 min, max 8 I think that's enough

4) STEALING mode - temp. 60 - 80 gr. over time is not known. we need your data.

12 hours

5) BAKING mode. in our conversation, baking was equated with frying. pace - 115 degrees. I ask you to express your opinion on the similarity of the modes. also define the time interval.

I do not know what is the temperature for Panasonic MV baking, but it is suitable. But I would like to increase the time to 1.5 hours

But the top heating - it just has to be super! The light, almost white top crust of the pastry is already annoying

6) FRYING mode - 150 - 180 degrees. time 30 min. (now I am figuring out the technical possibility of increasing the tempo. to such a mark ...)

Well, why not expand the area of ​​application. It may not be the most necessary program, but it would not be bad at all to have it.

ALL THESE MODES MUST BE SEPARATE BUTTONS.

Standard modes were not considered due to their simplicity.

The "Steam cooking" mode and the steam basket will hopefully not be forgotten!

nuances:
a) saved programs - MANDATORY.
b) baking mode is required for a 3 liter model.
c) container for condensate for 3 liters. - be sure to add (please clarify)

in my opinion it's done well in Panasonic, you open the lid - the condensate flows into this box, and not on the table.

d) manual mode with any edits temp./time.

Quote: gypsy

nothing drips onto the table

Well then, you have a different liquid flowing down!
In my Panasonic, if there is no box, then there will be a puddle on the table!

Gypsy
What kind of quarrel can there be? no provocations

I took a picture to make it clear where it flows if there is something to drain (like they forgot food in the rice cooker)
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Admin Br
Quote: Lisss's

Admin Brand, I agree with the previous speakers only in such points I want to add my wishes:

Dough mode - 30 minutes to 2.5 hours - ok
Stewing mode - up to 8 hours (for jellied meat) - ok
Baking - 180C, from 20 minutes to 2 hours, step - 5 minutes
"Baking - 180C, from 20 minutes to 2 hours, step - 5 minutes" - such temperatures as 180 degrees, it is necessary to clarify. whether the body can withstand ... that's a lot. This is one, two - what is cooked for 180 gr. 2 hours? What kind of dough will it take?

Quote: Luysia

Automatic programs (like "buckwheat", "pilaf", "milk porridge") are not going anywhere either? And then I somehow already became friends with them.
of course. the standard machines will remain. the question is how much they suit you tests will show ...
Suslya
I also want to participate, in principle the girls have already said everything, but you can and I will add:
Proofing - 60 minutes to 2.5 hours
Yogurt - I can't say, the yogurt maker is enough for me.
Quenching - max 8 hours (step 30 min)
Simmering - up to 12 hours
Baking - up to 1.5 hours in 5 min increments

And about the drip tray, I did not understand why such a perception is not, a good thing, by the way, you can of course soak it out of the rim with a napkin, this is the case ... but if there are holes in the rim, and condensate neatly collects through the holes in a box, what is criminal here?
And that's what, for some reason, when you open the lid, condensate from the valve pours so much that the whole cartoon is wet, am I the only one suffering so much?
fugaska
I confirm about the drip tray: I like to open the cartoon several times and mix, peep ...so sometimes during the cooking process I even need to empty the container, for the next collection, so this is definitely a good thing!
IRR
Quote: Admin Brand

"Baking - 180C, from 20 minutes to 2 hours, step - 5 minutes" - such temperatures as 180 degrees, it is necessary to clarify. whether the body can withstand ... that's a lot. this time. two. what is cooked at 180 gr. 2 hours? what kind of dough will it take?
These parameters are given by Panas. In fact, there is not 180 constantly, the thermostat regulates, we sometimes hear its clicks. If it is less, the dough will not be baked, but boiled. Focus on prog baked goods at Panas. For us on this program, not only baked goods, all sorts of fries, etc. Relevant.
Admin Br
Quote: IRR

These parameters are given by Panas. In fact, there is not 180 constantly, the thermostat regulates, we sometimes hear its clicks. If it is less, the dough will not be baked, but boiled. Focus on prog baked goods at Panas. For us on this program not only dough, all kinds of fries, etc. Relevant.
I studied the manual of Panasonic - I did not find the temperature. from where the data is that there is 180 degrees? the only thing I saw was this editable time - from 20 to 65 minutes.
Luysia
Quote: Admin Brand

I studied the manual of Panasonic - I did not find the temperature. from where the data is that there is 180 degrees? the only thing I saw was this editable time - from 20 to 65 minutes.

Admin Brand, if you want to know about all the temperature modes of Panasonic, then this can be done if you really want to.

As soon as I bought my Panasonic, I doubted whether the Baking mode was working correctly for me. So I called the service center and there the master said that he hadn't repaired such pots, but bring them in and see.

I reasonably asked how he would check her if he hadn't seen her before? He replied that they were a Panasonic service center and that Panasonic would send temperature charts by email at his first request. All modes and temperature changes over time for these modes will be listed there.

I think that a decent workshop (which repairs Panasonic equipment) has these cards and the only thing is how to copy them. Well, this is a purely technical and material issue.
Lisss's
Quote: IRR

As for me, you should leave all these machines + manual mode. And ffse. And yogurt and dough and everything else will already suit it.

support !! exactly - a simple and reasonable option! T from 35 to 180 (? If Panasonic has so much ...), and time from 10 minutes to 6 hours (for yogurt)
Rina
Let me cut in too.
As for the Yoghurt - if the temperature cannot be set there, and it will be "sewn up" one for the program, then I would advise you to ensure the minimum maximum temperature for the growth of the leaven. That is, to be guided by those leavens, which have the lowest maximum temperature among all leavens. According to IMiM Kiev, this temperature is 37 degrees. If it is exceeded, then the vitality and usefulness of several leavens will be completely killed. For example, bifivit and symbilact - a maximum of 37 degrees, acidophilus milk - 38.

About the baking temperature. 180 degrees is set for gas ovens, where a very large volume of air must circulate and, accordingly, be heated to a temperature of as much ... about 90 degrees for bread (let those who know how to bake in the oven and use thermometers correct me if necessary), for meat is also 65-85 degrees. In general, you still need to check with those manufacturers where this function is implemented, or take a thermal sensor and stuff it into a saucepan (or under a saucepan). As for Panasonic, for example, I have a strong belief that the dough is not baked there, but boiled (probably because of the pale top).
zvezda
And about the handles on the saucepan !!!! Girls, you just can't imagine how convenient it is !!!!
Admin Br
about the handles ... I'm afraid because of the change in the design of the pan ... it will be necessary to change the design of the MV ... again I wrote it down - I will clarify
Gypsy
might come in handy, from Yummi rice cooker theme
Quote: gypsy

How to take out. No problem, everything clings well with one hand (small rice cooker).
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Luysia
Gypsy, we take everything out this way or something like that. But if there were any handles it would be more convenient. We strive for the perfect saucepan.
Hairpin
Clever girls take out the saucepans like this:
Multicooker Brand
Gypsy
Are these potholders from the mulcher? Not .. cheto scary so .. if empty can and normal, but with cabbage as it falls out and you can scald yourself or children
Quote: Hairpin


Why is there a ribbed spoon, I don't know:
why why, this is a classic rice spoon.

Hairpin, and a saucepan in the photo and a piece of rice cooker what? is it all Brand?
Gypsy
Hairpin, thanks for testing!

And you can ask, maybe Roman or Vadim .. What was the name of the program * pilaf * originally from the Chinese?
Luysia
Well, the "Pilaf" mode clearly does not correspond to the name.

In Panasonic, this mode works until the water boils away, and then the temperature rises for the last few minutes for frying from below.
And then a puddle of sauce.
Hairpin, I'm not so smart myself! Here .. I read it on the dial tone.

In short, in the "Buckwheat" mode, the multicooker will work as long as there is free water in the pan, that is, until some of it boils away, and some is absorbed into the cereal. The amount of water poured regulates the degree of variability of the porridge.

The "Pilaf" mode is all the same, only at the end the temperature rises and the bottom is a little fry.
Hairpin
Quote: IRR

Which program are you going to put on? Extinguishing?
Wow!!! Oatmeal is milk porridge! And on which program do you need to make milk porridge?
Quote: Luysia

In Panasonic, this mode works until the water boils away, and then the temperature rises for the last few minutes for frying from below.

Sometimes my shrimps were always a little crispy ...
Rita
Hairpin, buckwheat is Buckwheat, and brown rice is brown rice, unpolished rice that takes longer to cook than regular white, polished rice. But you are probably right that buckwheat and brown rice take the same time to cook.
Vadim Solynin
Good day, dear Girls.

First, I would like to express my gratitude for visiting our office and for an interesting conversation. It's always nice to listen to people who are good at what they are talking about.

Several answers:

Quote: Hairpin

... Two multicooker (Fugaskin and mine) were already in boxes, but Vadim Tanyu1962 also gifted. It looks like there were only two of them, so he took Tanya off the window ...

There are many more multicookers than two. It was just late, and the warehouse was closed. I had to take it from the window.

Quote: gypsy

Hairpin, thanks for testing!

And you can ask, maybe Roman or Vadim .. What was the name of the program * pilaf * originally from the Chinese?

The pilaf program was originally called CONGEE. As far as we correctly understood, CONGEE is something similar to boiled rice in a liquid.

Quote: Hairpin

... I think Roman has an electronic version and he can throw us on wawawa ...

Electronic versions of instructions are posted on the site. They can be downloaded at the bottom of the page with a full description of the technical characteristics for each multicooker.
Gypsy
Quote: SVP


The pilaf program was originally called CONGEE. As far as we correctly understood, CONGEE is something similar to boiled rice in a liquid.
Semyon Semyonitch !! Now everything is clear .. how can you get dry pilaf on liquid porridge? Urgently rename the button to * porridge * or * soup *
Gypsy
Quote: IRR

and on the standard. I tell the family there is also Mexican pilaf. Can Vadim and Roman be carried to the office? Well Schaub together so together.
Standard the same as Express, only with a lock, the program is longer for the time of the lock, why should the Hairpin soak frozen vegetables?
Gypsy
I opened the instructions for a little .. the first thing I saw:

Nominal volume, ml Food volume, ml.
3000 1000


What does this mean?

Rice cookers are usually measured in glasses of rice grains, a glass is 180 ml.
Admin Br
Quote: gypsy

I opened the instructions for a little .. the first thing I saw:

Nominal volume, ml Food volume, ml.
3000 1000


What does this mean?

Rice cookers are usually measured with glasses of rice grains, a glass is 180 ml.
it means:
if you pour water - 3 liters.
if you cook food - the volume of prepared food is 1 liter! the density is different coefficients. 1 in 3
Gypsy
I looked at the program table, there is a lock in the Express, but it is shorter .. but all the same, for pilaf, the Express is closer than the Standard. Although the Standard has longer * fries * at the end .. it means you have to try both, which will please you better. I make my * pilaf * (any rice with additives) on a standard program.
Quote: Admin Brand

it means:
if you pour water - 3 liters.
if you cook food - the volume of prepared food is 1 liter! the density is different coefficients. 1 in 3


I understand it this way: rice (or any cereal) can be poured into 1 liter, the output will be about 2 liters of boiled cereal.
Liquids can be poured (again, only on Extinguishing) 3 liters. So?
Cubic
Quote: SVP

The pilaf program was originally called CONGEE. As far as we correctly understood, CONGEE is something similar to boiled rice in a liquid.

I confirm the words of the girls, I have a button "porridge" in Unite - aka CONGEE - for milk porridge-smear.

I would leave the program for BROWN rice, for other long-boiled cereals - "rice" or "standard" - it cooks until the water is completely evaporated, but not for long, and many cereals do not have time to cook, you have to get out of the situation by cooking them on CONGEE - experienced by picking up the minimum amount of liquid.

You need something to cook lentils, brown rice, pearl barley - but not in a mess, I think this is just brown.
IRR
Good morning everyone! I'm on extinguishing I cook brown rice, but if there is a separate extended program, I will have nothing against it! The main thing here is to guess with water. Right now I quickly ran through the entom manual - and what is there - you can open the lid, you cannot. I did not notice And on which programs it is not recommended. And most importantly - in the little one the insert on the lid is removed or not. I didn’t see it and Hairpin is silent ...
IRR
in YUMMI - modes potatoes and soup also duplicate themselves. Panapihali to attract Russians and Ukrainians. Potatoes are our second bread. Before Peter, this program would be called TURNIP... Don't forget that this is Japanesemother Chinese device and they cook rice on all programs. Only in different ways, because rice is different, there are many varieties of it. Maybe dry, then it's pilaf, maybe with water, then porridge or soup, there is rice for sushi, rolls - that's another story too. Our task is to figure out where what is and to optimize the modes for our needs, and the guys from Brand will catch up and rename - business, then?
(eh! ... far from Brenda I live)
Admin Br
Kind!
There are enough multicooker for everyone. We are talking about the coordination of actions and the formation of a list of forum participants with a legal 20% discount!
kolynusha
Admin Brand , let me also voice your wishes. I would like to see the Yoghurt program and handles on a saucepan. For me, the drip tray is more convenient than wiping with a napkin. And I will repeat the question (I asked it before) is there a technical possibility to develop a multicooker with a pressure cooker function? Maybe not in the next model, but after it?
About long distance delivery. If the total order amount reaches the agreed one, you are higher, and delivery in Moscow is free, then you bring the pots to PEC (I like it better) or Gruzovozoff, and they send them to us (2-3 days). Who does not know it will cost 300 rubles. Mail takes a long time to send, and is not particularly responsible for the quality of the shipment. I would not contact them. And in my opinion, more expensive. If the amount does not reach, then for 300 rubles. take it to the shopping mall.
The list should emerge after weeks of trial and error. Maybe someone will wait for the new model, and someone will want to join now, well, those who are in the bushes now. Yes, Aunt Bas?
Admin Br
I write the dimensions of the MB and the GROSS weight (of the whole box)
37300(3 liters): weight - 3.5 kg, H - 245 mm, L - 375 mm, W - 285 mm.

37500(5 liters): weight - 5.5 kg, H - 400 mm, L - 315 mm, W - 275 mm

About covers

the heating element in the lid is only available on the 37500 (5 liter model).

Admin Br
Quote: kolynusha

Admin Brand , let me also voice your wishes. I would like to see the Yoghurt program and handles on a saucepan. For me, the drip tray is more convenient than wiping with a napkin.And I will repeat the question (I asked it before) is there a technical possibility to develop a multicooker with a pressure cooker function? Maybe not in the next model, but after it?
About long distance delivery. If the total order amount reaches the agreed one, you are higher, and delivery in Moscow is free, then you bring the saucepans to PEC (I like it more) or Gruzovozoff, and they send them to us (2-3 days). Who does not know it will cost 300 rubles. Mail takes a long time to send, and is not particularly responsible for the quality of the shipment. I would not contact them. And in my opinion, more expensive. If the amount does not reach, then for 300 rubles. take it to the shopping mall.
The list should emerge after weeks of testing. Maybe someone will wait for the new model, and someone will want to join now, well, those who are in the bushes now. Yes, Aunt Bas?
On the program "Yogurt" - already recorded! at the expense of pens ... the question is being clarified. Droplet collector - opinions are also recorded, the possibility is checked. At the expense of the pressure cooker - hmm. As far as I know, a pressure cooker is "a saucepan with a special designed hermetically sealed lid, thanks to which steam does not escape, the pressure and temperature inside the pressure cooker increases. As a result, the cooking speed increases many times."
MV has a different principle - working with a valve for steam outlet. whether it will be possible to combine these two devices in one, while I do not know. - I'll clarify!
Regarding delivery to transport companies, I think it is possible. But what about the payment?
Gypsy
Quote: Admin Brand

About the pressure cooker ...
MV has a different principle - working with a valve for steam outlet. whether it will be possible to combine these two devices in one, while I do not know.
Admin, they want this:
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rice cooker pressure

by the way, already with handles
Aunt Besya
In my Panasonic, I sometimes drain a whole drip tray when I stand for a long time on heating or stewing
IRR
Quote: Aunt Besya

In my Panasonic, I sometimes drain a whole drip tray when I stand for a long time on heating or stewing
Because you have in Panasonic, there is no such valve so you drain ... you have another pipka on top under the lid
Luysia
IRR,

And here in Panasonic it flows straight ...
Gypsy
Quote: Admin Brand

So to wash either the container or the surface on which the multicooker stands, the container seems to me to be more convenient!
Citizens, I will now speak uncensored, well, there is no water there !!! .. I have a clean table, I have only dirt on the table from the cat, but from the dust from the window.
kolynusha
Quote: gypsy

if there is something to drain, then it flows down to .. how to call it, to that place around the saucepan, where I regularly wipe with a rag, all one crumbs need to be washed.

Quote: IRR

If only you cooked something and let it cool completely in the cartoon, then when you open the lid for the first time there will be drops, but they do not get into the food, but smoothly flow down to the side of the case from the lid, get wet with a napkin or paper towel, I think it is not critical.

Someone prefers to wipe it with a rag, while others just pour the condensate out of the drip tray

Quote: IRR

Pour the finished dish directly into a saucepan for storage - and you will forget that there is condensation.

This is not always possible.
Tanya wrote about the fact that there is no condensation after.
IRR
Quote: Hairpin

I had a maximum condensate of one napkin.
And that was only because you opened it many times, threw it, watched it boil, not boil. If there was some kind of buckwheat thread, the simplest on the machine, and this water would not exist.
lega
When you cook in a cartoon, there is very little condensation. (For me) But if the food remains there on heating or just in the thermos mode, then when you open the saucepan, a sickly portion of water comes up. Personally, I find it very convenient to use a cartoon like a thermos. Because eaters gather at different times (all adults). As for me, the condensate trap is very much needed. I love this big "thermos". If Shpilka and Tanya had tested Brands in this capacity as well, then it would have been possible to say "needed, not needed". According to the laws of physics, you must have a "thermos"! May the IRR and Gypsy forgive me for approving the drip tray.
fugaska
according to the previous speaker! on all counts! I will cook soup like soup (or stew meat, for example), so by the time of the final recess for transferring to another container, my entire lid is wet, and even this drip tray is full of water. and if I repeatedly climb into the pan, overflow happens sometimes
Hairpin
Quote: IRR

Hairpin! A question arose along the way (I ran past the computer here) - what do you call average heated?
Heating in the walls of the multicooker.

In the floor of the multicooker - the lower one, in the walls - the middle one, in the roof - the upper one.
Vadim Solynin
Quote: Hairpin

Pilaf. The lower heating is much more powerful than that of the Standard and Eskpress, but I DO NOT SEE the middle and upper heating !!!

Oh girls, my heart feels that ours Vadim-but the villains, the Chinese with 3D heating have deceived ...

There are three modes left.

Dear Hairpin. If you are talking about the Brand 37300 model, then there is NO 3D heating in it.

3D heating is only available on Brand 37500.
Alim
Quote: IRR

Ting, he was glad that his drip tray was dry:

In Panasonic, it is also dry immediately after cooking
Water appears in the drip tray after 2-3 hours on heating
jelen
If there is 3D heating, then there should be no condensation, the lid heats up and you can see that when the soup is boiled on the lid, the condensation evaporates! The top heating works fine! I am glad that there are many modes on the machine, a dream for many housewives! But baking can be tested in a different mode!
IRR
Quote: jelen

If there is 3D heating, then there should be no condensation, the lid heats up and you can see that when the soup is boiled on the lid, the condensation evaporates! The top heating works fine!
The top heating works fine when the biscuit does not have to be turned over, when it bakes the same top and bottom, which is why it is 3D. Well, at least we all thought so, hoped ... believed. How else?
Alim
The "sick" question about the need for a drip tray in the presence of 3D must be solved empirically: keep on heating for a couple of hours at least the same porridge ... Biscuit - then the girls have remained light on top, although 3D is available ...
Hairpin
Quote: IRR

please tell me ... How do you check? By hand? Do you start feeling the body in 5 minutes? Or how?

By hand. I turn it on and start to feel.
jelen
IRR I think you need to try a different baking mode ... that's why the girls are testing. Yes, you yourself know that in our cartoons we find something new every time. So Panas turns out to be "fries" and the Multichotter "bakes", also in other rice cookers ...

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