Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

Tortilla doesn't bake pizza at all.

of course not pizzabake 🔗 in stores it is positioned as pizzamaker.

If the title of the topic had real, full numbered characteristics of pizza makers, then the reader of the topic by number would be much clearer about which maker we are talking about. including the author of the topic.

We buy these devices. therefore, they should be officially called exactly as the manufacturer decided.

The clarification concerned the user himself, perhaps he came for a completely different one.
Moreover, the numbers that he used in his message have nothing to do with real models.

Irina, you have already raised this question, why repeat and divert the topic from the essence?
The meaning of the topic is not in numbers for models.
In the first part, the devices are listed with numbers.

Girls, let's live together

Girls, hello!
Would like to ask about the Teflon rug, do you wash it every time with detergent after one bake? I ask because it seems to me the smell, whether because of it, if the oil in the dough gives such a smell of baking, how to say correctly "smoky-burned" or something. So I think this is due to the fact that in a compartment with a princess and that there is especially no ventilation and steam and heat so affects the baking, roofing felts from the reuse of the rug on which the dough greased with butter (when distributing I smear my hands with oil) was baked. (for example, I'm talking about focachi) I'm more inclined that because of the rug, the smell from the rug comes after baking.
Butter began to put corn dough, like the same. Usually, after the cakes, I just wipe the rug with a damp cloth or simply wash it off with water, but because of the smell I also tried it with a detergent after use, sometimes it was normal, and sometimes it smells straight.
When baking in the oven, I did not seem to observe this.
Maybe the mat has a validity period, by the way, the stain on it does not go away already, as it were, greasy, and it is even mine, though not mine.
Ps perhaps you need to dust the dough with flour, and not grease with oil when distributing .. I have not tried it yet.

[cleose]

cleose, I wipe the rug several times just with a damp cloth, of course it absorbs odors slightly, like fat, but in my nose, silicone also absorbs the smell of baking along with fat. Therefore, I have more than one Teflon mat (like silicone molds), they are separated - for sweet - 2 pieces, a separate one for cakes and another mat for other baked goods: with meat, onions, cheese ...
Their validity period is not limited, but of course they are completely saturated with oil over time. If the rug is dark or black, it is not as noticeable as on light and beige ones. These are my observations ...

[cleose]

cleose, or maybe you have a dough rolling mat? I thought that all rugs are the same, well, the thickness / size is different, but then I found out that there are silicone rugs for rolling dough, but there are heat resistant for baking... For example, in Galamart (I picked the right ones for myself) - for the test
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but for baking
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Outwardly, something like twin brothers, only for more expensive baking

And today I baked a lazy cake with cottage cheese in P2 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=237004.new#new
Very tasty, I recommend it.

[cleose]

cleose, I have rugs for several years, but I baked on them in the oven, stains remain, but they do not absorb the smell. I'm talking about beige. At the princess, I bake on parchment, bake and throw it away. I have 1 white rug with a pink pattern - marking. There, like a glass-fabric is embedded in silicone - it has become disgustingly sticky, it cannot be washed off by anything, but the smell does not absorb

Girls, maybe someone had it. I have n 1.ceased to warm the top, a little warm and the bottom warms more, but still not so. I used to put a rug. and now dry bread for 2 hours ... sadness ... helped go.

[cleose]

cleose, if there is some kind of burnt smell, it means that the oil from the baked goods gets somewhere. This is quite possible. Try to wash the rug thoroughly with detergent every time. If the smell from this does not disappear, then maybe the oil just gets on the inner surface of the pizza maker itself? Then it should be washed carefully, that is, rinse well with a soapy sponge, and then with clean water and wipe dry.
In general, it is better to use not a silicone, but a Teflon mat, and a Teflon mesh under it. I wash the mesh periodically, and the Teflon mat after each time. Its surface is almost always greasy anyway.
I never use a silicone mat in a pizza maker, but I do use silicone molds. Naturally, mine after baking, but no smell remains.

[Marina]

Marina, what a treat, and how long did it take in P2? In mine, everything is baked for ~ 30 minutes.

stopped warming the top,

disassemble the pizza maker, check the thermostat, winding, the device is as simple as an iron

my husband looked, found nothing. Probably the heating element says. And you can't find them. I love this stove so much.

[teflon]

I wanted to ask about the Teflon mat

I also bake a biscuit on teflon rug, it has already turned brown, rubbing with a sponge with detergent after each baking, there is no smell.

[win-tat]

win-tat, Tanyusha, thank you very much.
He baked for 18 minutes, did not open it, turned it off and still kept it off for 12 minutes.

[grinaty]

grinaty, Nah, I have no silicone, Teflon baking. I don't use silicone in P2.
On this rug I only bake, I don't fry ... I tried to bake pizza on baking paper, sometimes it sticks straight to the bottom, which I didn't like to tear off the pizza. I sniffed at the stove itself, it doesn't seem to smell from it after wiping it with a rag, it means from the rug .. now I washed it several times with a detergent, I will look again the next time, but I realized that you still need to wash it thoroughly after each baking .. under it is a Teflon mesh I definitely have it, I don't wash it every time either.
Thanks to everyone who answered.
By the way, I also received a silicone form of Purex, today I tried to bake a vanilla biscuit in boiling water from 4 eggs.
Most likely you need an oven of three eggs in this form, (Teflon mesh at the bottom) don't you know? there will be expanse where to climb ..
Baked for 15 minutes at 14 hours and 5 minutes on off. I think 13 minutes at 14 o'clock is enough, so that it is not overdried .. or do not keep it off immediately to pull it out .. The top is well browned and the bottom is beautifully baked without burnt.
And yes, just do not swear that I am so picky about smells, it seems to me that the edge of the biscuit (I tried the edge, is now cooling down) smells of silicone, there is a taste of silicone in my mouth ... Maybe this is just the first time a new one, then there will be no such smell .. Pleases that you can bake biscuits in 15 minutes, and not 40 minutes in the oven ..
In general, I'm starting to get used to Princess P2, thanks to everyone for writing here about her and sharing your experience.

Nah, I don't have silicone, Teflon for baking

: girl_red: And how did I manage to "read" about silicone, I myself do not understand: apparently because many complain about the smell from silicone. And I use Teflon - also one, very old and oily, I wrote it off to the trash. Before that, I repeatedly washed it with a brush with Faerie and soap. Then I bought spare - Ali has good and inexpensive ones, and I got caught in a nearby store, I also bought it. On this rug I bake simple rolls / loaves, and I try to bake something greasy (even PP) on a Teflon mesh and baking paper (I really like Freken Bock paper, it even has a suitable size - 38 cm wide).

Good evening. Now I have more time and energy, I am "driving" the Countess. I baked Olga Matvey's onion pie, mine liked it. I won't expose a photo yet, I want to make a comparison with Ilya L., then a report, if niteresno, sprinkle Today I baked cutlets-muffins-meatballs, whoever you want to name it It turned out amazingly! I did not bother with the tins, but immediately laid it out on the rug and baked it. I won't tell the girls the recipe, that's what insinuated (kicked), I bought and mixed. The result exceeded expectations.
600-700 grams of minced chicken and beef, a couple of slices of roll crumb (in milk), bunches of green, onions, twisted with dill, and steamed: dried plums, sun-dried tomatoes. One egg (usually I don't add), Italian spices, lim. pepper, dry garlic. Mixed everything, beat off lightly, added salt, soy. sauce, grated cheese and a little sl. oils. I connected everything, whipped it up with handles and baked it. Yes, she put in a piece of truffle, but her husband said that he did not smell it at all. It turned out to be airy, tender, colorful, juicy, like if I put ice, but today, no, but the taste mmmm Itself ate like Tuzik

[grinaty]

Then I bought a spare - Ali has good and inexpensive ones,

grinaty, Natalia, is there a link to Ali, to the rugs? Verified seller. For some reason, I can't find these rugs anywhere in Crimea, they used to be in one store only, and then in a neighboring city, but how many we go there, they won't bring them in any way. But I didn't think about Ali ...

Maybe someone else ordered? Give me a link...

[Anya]

Anya, I take on Ozone, different, until everyone is satisfied.

[Anya]

Anya, I also ordered a teflon rug and grate on Ozone, there is no smell

[annnushka27]

annnushka27, Anya, I ordered this one. True, then it cost 95 rubles. with free shipping.

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Good quality, dense. Was wound on a sleeve, so it did not crumple (when ordering, I asked very much about it) You can cut this rug into 2 parts - it will just be 30 * 40

Girls, something Ozone hasn't sent promotional codes for a long time ...

[SoNika]

SoNika, julia_bb, grinaty, thank you very much, I will look where it is more profitable to order.
And then I bought my mother the Princess, and I can't collect the dowry to her.

[cleose]

cleosewhy bake pizza on the rug?
It bakes for 12-15 minutes. Yes, and this dough does not require a substrate, it does not stick to the coating.

[Irina]

Irina, I also bake on a rug: it does not burn, it is easily removed and the GF remains clean

[Virine]

Virine, I have the same thing, only without a rug

[Marina]

Baking for 18 minutes.

Marina, Thank you

[cleose]

cleosewhy bake pizza on the rug?
It bakes for 12-15 minutes. Yes, and this dough does not require a substrate, it does not stick to the coating.

RepeShock, and I bake cakes on them, I don't know how it is more convenient for me to stretch the circle (roll it out) on the rug, grease my hands with oil and stretch it. The rug on the table can be twisted to roll out evenly.

[Irina]

Irina,
cleose,

And it is convenient for me to immediately stretch or roll out on the rug and put it in the stove. And then on the rug and take it out, taking it by the corners and edges. No problem transferring the dough to the oven, no problem getting it out of the hot oven. And no paddles are needed.

[grinaty]

grinaty, I have paklan paper for baking, I tried to bake biscuits on it without a mold, it goes well, but I don't like pizza or like tortillas. Well, I also tried to fry the cutlets in it well, and they pulled out the clean P2.
I mostly use Teflon mats.

And it is convenient for me to immediately stretch or roll out on the rug and put it in the stove. And then on the rug and take it out, taking it by the corners and edges. No problem transferring the dough to the oven, no problem getting it out of the hot oven. And no paddles are needed.

Masha Ivanova, SoNika aha and it is easier to carry and pull out conveniently.

And I bake pizza on rugs, because I usually bake 4 pieces. I form the first one right in the stove, and 3 on the rugs, then I just change it. So are the Ossetian ones. So, wait until it cools down after each?
I bake pies because it's easier to pull out. When I cut out the circles, I left the "ears" on the sides, and I pull them out. I also put them on top of the cake, if it is tall and burns.
And recently I began to fry cutlets on them, because it is easier to wash.

And I have round rugs with a diameter of 34-35 cm for cutlets, potatoes and the like, they get sides that crawl over the edges of the pizza oven, but this does not interfere with closing the stove.Then not a single drop of oil and juice gets on the stove itself, the stove is clean. Only these rugs are 13 mm thick, while ordinary Teflon mats have only 7 mm. They are moderately dense, I really like it. And on a sheet of the oven I bought teflon sheets 18 mmk Also very convenient.

Good day. I also fry and bake on rugs, put a thick one under the pizza, otherwise the bottom burns. If the top of the product rises, then I cover the top with a sheet too. We all add up, invent, thanks to EVERYONE who shares the intricacies and finds, sometimes you are wise, but it turns out the girls have found a simple option 2 versions of Yulina's lazy "focaccia".
The second, with greens, turned out to be airier.

[Masha Ivanova]

Only these mats are 13 mm thick

Masha Ivanova, and where did you buy these? I didn't see or didn't pay attention to maybe.
SoNika, yeah, I also really like Yulina's lazy focaca, before buying P2 she often baked in the oven.

I also like Yulina lazy focaca

[cleose]

cleose, it's bad when I don't know your name. Look on the Internet Azur Teflon grill mats and Azur frying pan mats. For pans, there are 13 mmk, although they are thinner, look carefully, the thickness is written on the sites. They are usually round, 35 cm in diameter. Someone cuts them down to a diameter of 30 cm for a pizza machine, I didn't cut them, it's more convenient for me. So when you buy, take your time, try using this diameter first.
And the grill mats of the same company come in different thicknesses, I bought 18 mm and I'm very happy with this thickness. It is black. Grill mat sizes vary. And 40 by 60 cm, of which you can make 2 on a standard baking sheet, and some other sizes, I don't remember now, I took myself a large one. Just super!
A kind person from our forum advised me such round rugs, for which I am grateful to her, I don’t know how, every time I bake and remember her good. And then these thin 7 mmk very quickly fail. I take care of them so as not to accidentally cut through, I use only a plastic knife and very carefully. As far as I remember, it is written Azur.

Girls, in recipes you often come across that you are cooking for the princess. And I didn’t know what it was And then ozone sent a 30% discount on travola, I went in and I think I probably need it. And the princess was caught there. I read you. But I can't handle everything: girl_cray1: Now I'm thinking. Take not take and which is better

[Mila Sweetheart]

Mila Sweetheart, look here
Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300 # 8443
This I, too, once asked the question, which is the best of these two, the girls answered me. Maybe it will help you make a choice)

[Mila Sweetheart]

Mila Sweetheart, recently she chose, I understand your torment. As a result, I bought a princess with a thermostat. I bake mostly at the maximum, paper to the bottom. Bakes delicately. From unsweetened baked eggplants to a charcoal crust whole - I'm happy with the result, baked cabbage casserole - the cheese on top fired up well, I like the result. One of the girls said that the first princess was more aggressive. Travola has rays in the top cover of the shade

[Mila Sweetheart]

Mila Sweetheart, yes, we have already discussed and compared Travola with the Princess. Gravola is a good stove, but in my opinion, it is good as an additional one, for delicate baking, for leisurely cooking. If there is no desire and opportunity to have several ovens, then a Princess is more suitable, and a Princess with a thermostat or similar pizza makers, which are discussed in this topic, is better.

[Elena]

cleose, it's bad when I don't know your name. Look on the Internet Azur teflon rugs for grilling and Azur rugs for pans

Elena, thank you very much, I will look for it, I have a round black one from another company, but it has a small diameter of 26 cm (I don't know how many mm). but anyway, sometimes I put it under the rug, I Irina, to me on "you", wanted to insert a name now, until it turned out.

[Ketsal]

Eggplants from unsweetened baking to charcoal crust whole - happy with the result

Ketsal, Olga, probably a stupid question - did it smell badly? How many eggplants did you put in? Whole? How many minutes are at the maximum? And, yes, pierced the eggplant?

How cool you come up with! I will be so too - we respect eggplant dishes with smoke!

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, almost did not smell at all. I ordered 4 blue ones there, pre-pricked, down the parchment on top of nothing. I baked for 20 minutes at the maximum, turned it once so that it was fried on 4_ sides. The only blue ones need to be taken the same size

Girls, now I make a lot of baked pepper. I bake it in the Princess. So convenient !!

[M @ rtochka]

Now I make a lot of baked pepper

M @ rtochka, Dash, is it still baked or "singed"? How many minutes, which mode? Do you stack it tight? Do you put pepper in the center?

is he still baked or "singed"?

Baffled me by the question
Made in form and without form. Roasted until black without shape. But after cooling, in my opinion, it becomes too soft. I liked the form more. It is baked, but so plump. The skin in both versions peels off remarkably. I bake only fleshy red, discovered the recipe of our Tanya (Admin) baked pepper in marinade, delicious!
I cut the pepper in half, spread it on the entire area with the skin down, then the juice remains inside, about 600 grams is included.
There is a photo like this:

I keep in shape for 20 minutes from turning on. Then I turn it off and leave for steaming.
Matbuha from Zachariah, harissa from hot pepper, lutenitsa - for all this I bake pepper in the Princess. I'm comfortable!)
I'll add a little. If you leave the pepper to soak in the Princess, a lot of condensation will form! It is necessary either to put it in a bag, or if it is in the Princess for a long time, when opening the lid, in a second, put a rag down the lid so that the water does not flow inside, where the wires are.

baked cabbage casserole-

am, write a recipe! I baked it a couple of times and I don't remember how it was, but it was very tasty!

[M @ rtochka]

I liked the form more

M @ rtochka, Dash, thank you, I outlined everything and the names of what you cook - I also really respect red pepper snacks. It is necessary to select the forms for the princess. Oh, how hard it is for her to collect the dowry - she bought a net, there is a rug (for now) ...