Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Yes, I think so! Disp. for yeast - this is either utter nonsense, or razvodilovo for money.

And I never used it at all in my opinion
Happy New Year, everyone

So, Bread "Westphalian Passion"

1. Peeled rye flour 320 g
2. Wheat flour c / z 80 g
3. Dry yeast 1.5 tsp (fresh took 15 g)
4. Serum 340-360 g
5. Honey 1 s. l.
6. Dry malt 1.5 c. l.
7. Olive oil 2 s. l.

In HP, knead on Pizza or Gluten Free (with Heating) 10-15 minutes

Then disable.
Leave proofing for 1 - 1.5 hours
Switch on Baking 55 min.

I tried it on the rye mode. Good bread, liked it. I rewrote the recipe.

I tried it on the rye mode. Good bread, liked it. I rewrote the recipe.

I am sincerely glad !!! Bake and eat to your health! So it's not in vain that I wrote this composition for Khlebchiki.
Happy New Year to you.

Girls tell me whether it is possible to do with one spatula (which is a rake for kneading rye bread) or a spatula is needed for a wheat friend. Panasonic Bread Maker
Model SD-253

Girls tell me whether it is possible to do with one spatula (which is a rake for kneading rye bread) or a spatula is needed for a wheat friend. Panasonic Bread Maker
Model SD-253

I don’t know, I knead rye bread with a spatula, though not pure rye, but wheat-rye

[shurpanita]

shurpanita, I will not advise, these are just my thoughts, but will the gluten suffer when kneading wheat bread if there is a comb?

[visual]

not ... nothing there will break. There are quite large decent teeth. But this scapula is more fragile; under heavy load, its teeth can bend. Wheat dough can be very difficult to knead.
And if you make a very soft dough, that is possible !!! - only as a version, in practice it is necessary to check, the dough will seep between the cloves and will not have time to knead as planned in a short machine time. To cling to the teeth and get stuck, and in these places it will also be badly kneaded.
Smaller amounts of dough will flip over and rub under the paddle. We need to look at the batch and check out its quality.
With a mixer, we knead the dough with a twisted hook and everything is fine. But there we can knead indefinitely in time, but not in a typewriter.
However, in a typewriter, we rarely do so fluid, so I suppose the problem will be more in the strong wear of this blade. Will not last long.
It is also possible that the load on the motor will increase, because it is more difficult to knead a tough dough with a fork than immediately with a flat spatula. But again .. maybe not critical for its power, but within the normal range. Or maybe not within.
And it will fall out of the bread with problems.

In general, it is necessary to try in practice and see how it is kneaded, whether the dough turns over well, whether the scapula is grunting with tension. Theoretically - yes, there may be problems with the quality of the bread and the question of the load on the motor is open. I would call the Panasonic service, ask to connect with an engineer and ask about the load when working only with such a blade, if visual I noticed strained when driving on a batch.

shurpanita, on Ali it seems like inexpensive scapulae from Panasik were And you can also ask around in the service. Different services, different prices. You can make a request on the forum, because someone who has a machine has already broken down could sell a spatula quite inexpensively. Look at Avito, I see offers up to 500 rubles right now.

FOR KNEADING AND BAKING RYE BREAD BOUGHT HERE A SHOVEL AND EVERYTHING .. RYE BREAD BREAKED .. TE
SPTA 16 Spare parts for household appliances
WRITE THAT YOU NEED A SHOVEL OF A MIXER FOR A PANASONIC FOR RYE BREAD AND AFTER A WEEK YOU HAVE IT ... A GOOD GUYS ... - THE STOMACH IS BREATHING .. AND SO TASTY POWDER .. I HAVE FLUFFY HIGH BULK Panasonic SD-2500

[Seagerl]

Seagerl, rye dough is very thick, but it is not elastic and stretchy like wheat, but like thick mud. As I understand it, in order to reduce the load on the motor when kneading a very thick dough, a spatula with teeth was introduced. But there the teeth are in place. With a high density and voltage on the motor, dirt seeps between them, reducing the voltage and at the same time the dough is kneaded.
Second point. Rye dough doesn't like a lot of oxygen. That is, to knead it with a revolution like wheat - the taste is worse. The fork reduces air entrainment, the kneading quality is better for rye bread.
The more rye the composition, the better the fork for kneading in all respects.

With regard to wheat, I believe that a fork is worse for kneading for the same reasons. The dough flipping may be less, but here it is needed with a large air entrainment. Also, wheat dough is kneaded better by beating it against the protrusions of a bucket, but wheat dough is flexible and can cling to the cloves, that is, stupidly slow down and stay in place. In this case, the mix deteriorates in quality.

It seems so to me. These paddles do not seem to me entirely interchangeable. Well, if, just dig it, dig it

Helen, for a while I "lost" a shovel for wheat. Used "fork".
You are right, if you use it, then for the smallest roll. Then it's okay. She fumbles under the dough, not really turning it over ...

[Valentine]

Valentine,

I'm a mean cheat now. I changed my panasy with Brand. Since now I have baked goods in my pen, only on holidays, it was a pity to keep a simple beautiful machine. I gave it to a friend.
True, I have a Panasonic programmed in the fireman.
Therefore, I am only speculating theoretically now, there is no technical possibility to take and check directly. But since "opanasonized or better opanasino?" all the inner circle, it’s straightforward to say that I’m on the sidelines of our topic, it’s impossible. But now I will work less often with our favorite typewriter. Only away.

Dear associates. Still, I will draw your attention to the blog once more, which interested me terribly.

In general, it is not difficult to make KMKZ technically, we have the opportunity to use the yogurt mode in cartoons, perhaps the service mode in Panasica will do, but I have not tried it, I keep it in the cartoon. The only thing, I did not succeed in 24 hours, it took one additional feeding until it smelled, as indicated. Therefore, the initial starter may have to be held longer, fed once or twice.
At 40 degrees, you need to get a universal useful MKB improver, which does not ask for porridge in the refrigerator for a whole month in a completely lazy version for wheat dough. Once a month, you need to feed it, that is, warm it up and again put it on the yogurt regime for a day. For wheat bread, it is taken directly from the refrigerator; for very rye bread, you still have to feed it once before cooking. The improver can be put in HP, it is just used for short-term fermentation for wheat bread.
It is recommended to remember it in the refrigerator once a week, but if you keep it for wheat bread, then once a month is enough. For strongly rye, you need to feed it either once a week or before use, there is nowhere to go.
Rye bread is more difficult, as always. To work, again, it takes time. On rye it is a slow improver. But if it improves, it will improve

In general, if anyone is interested, then here.

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Hello everyone. I have HP bork, for a long time, but she is at the dacha for changing the dough, my husband does not like bread from it, and here I am sitting on holidays, I don’t want to do anything, I don’t want to bother with bread in the oven either, and then I came across a branch about the choice of hp.And so I caught fire !!!! I found a panasonic 2502 and 2512 in the technopark, so I'm thinking which one to buy

[Olga_Ma]

Olga_Ma, and the husband will appreciate something? And then no KHP will depict oven bread, even such a wonderful one as Panasonic.

[Galina]

Galina, while I agree, it is clear that bread from hp and the oven is different, but when there is no time, it is better from hp than from the store

Olga,

that and bork is a completely normal oven, you can get very tasty bread in it. If you don't like it there, then it may not work in panasik.
As far as I know, even the old model contains quite decent programs. And if you have a 450 model, then there is generally a lot at the level and you can get bread very close to Panasonic, I'm not talking about your home mode. I just stuck it in Panasonic and got the result, but you need to move a little. Not all flour is suitable. But your bread is also very tasty.
Panasik, of course, is lovely, but don't expect a miracle if you don't really like HP-bread.

And I understand that steel design attracted you in 2502 and 2512. Steel panasiks always have a yeast dispenser that works on all programs with a loud click. Therefore, consider this point, so that later it does not irritate. And so 2512 has two more programs than 2502, bread with additives and a low-yeast mode, which everyone really likes. You can do without it, but if you are not constrained in funds, then 2512 is more tasty.

Model range plate at the beginning of the topic
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 1441

Oh, girls, thanks for your help, in general, I'll think, bork is in the country and will definitely not return from there.

not .. if you decide to buy a second stove, then Panasonic is the best choice to get tasty and very simple, do not hesitate. But HP is HP. This is not an oven.

[Lena]

Lena, but not particularly attracted by the design, looked at the characteristics

Olga,

Optimum - if you are not constrained in funds, buy a stove from abroad with a bunch of programs for all occasions. It’s generally fantastic, but it’s very expensive to buy from us.
The most comfortable, that is, no claps at night -2511 model. Most programs (same as 2512), but without yeast dispenser. That ours, that the bourgeois version is the most optimal.
The versions below are older, there are simply fewer programs.

The most sophisticated 2522 potbelly stove, but there is a popping dispenser.
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 1441
Chichas is intriguing with crustina, recently it appeared in a store for 30 pieces, where the crusts are declared as oven crusts.

[heaven and earth ...]

no KHP will depict oven bread, even such a wonderful one as Panasonic.

Galya, what a recipe with a detachment. If you take Brad Pete, it is very similar to the spiritual one, well, for me, of course.
I stopped baking in the oven when Panasik appeared.
3-4 breads that I bake in HP suit me right in all respects.
Both me and my husband like it, although he is picky.
Just bread in Panasika and bread in other HPs - heaven and earth ... Because the people think that there is no direct comparison with the oven.
You just need to choose your own recipe.

[Ritus]

Ritus , I do not know how the bork was operated, maybe you are right, not all of its capabilities were used. But my friends have bork and I tried bread from there, if I do it according to my mind. It is quite on the level, slightly different, but not worse than ours. Delicious, crispy and all that.
It's just a stove with character and you have to adapt to it, I also know that. To screw up bread in it is a stroke and then yes, very mediocre and tasteless.

But if Olga is experienced and used bork competently, if there was delicious bread, but still didn't like it, then you yourself understand: you won't like Panasik either.
An open question, how Olga bakes in bork.

[Lena]

Lena, which model is it for 30 2000 KTS? Lena, I bake in bork only at the dacha, and I guess I didn't get used to it.

An open question, how Olga bakes in bork.

Yes.
What did I rush to advertise Panasik? ..
And here everyone decides for himself. Oven, so oven.
And in general it was just my personal opinion.
I just baked the ovens at one time, too, then I didn't have HP.
When her husband gave HP - the first Polaris. I couldn't understand what the KP people are praising for ?! It doesn't taste good.
I suffered, I suffered ... I returned to the oven. I suffered with the oven.
Then I read it, consulted and told my husband that I wanted Panasonic. He bought it the same day. And the very first loaf was like magic. Just a loaf from the Recipe Book.
And that's it, away we go ...

Olga,
Yeah, now it's clear. Take Panasik without hesitation. Judging by the baker's handwriting, you should have put it in, poked it out, and took it out very tasty. This is exclusively Panasonic.
Here is the new beauty Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS

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but without our beloved long-term French regime she is now. And this is a tremendous loss, actually. The breads on this mode are very tasty and it's not about the crust.
For 30 pieces and without your favorite long-term regimen - one time. Second, whether the service mode, which is also very necessary, has been retained, we still need to check.
Therefore, to be honest, the potbelly stove 2511 still looks much more attractive to me. But I did not find the bourgeois version of the crustina, but it is very interesting what is there.

[advertising]

put it in, poked it out, and took it out very tasty. This is exclusively Panasonic

Excellent advertising for Panasonic, Len!
They should write you the Year Award !!!!

[Lena]

Lena, no, I'm a little bit wrong, I really like messing around with the dough and for myself I have now picked up the perfect Hamelman recipe, but there are times when I don't have a lot of time for bread and I just thought about HP Panasonic and read you a lot, yes, I have a bork, but apparently it didn’t work out with him and the bucket remained with me only a round, square shabby. Looked at the 2000 review, interesting.

service mode,

And how long does this service last and what temperature does it hold? On the subject of whether it can be used for yogurt.

And just I think a low-yeast mode is suitable for my bread, but this is all at the level of intuition and assumptions.

I wonder if the new model in the "Baking" mode has the ability to choose the color of the crust?

you need to put it in, poke it out, and took it out very tasty. This is exclusively Panasonic.

It's about me . I am engaged in baking bread for home every day. Already 7 years went.

[Galina]

Galina, yes, how many you want. At least a few days. The load on the stove with him is small, does not ask for a lot of porridge.
The only thing is that the temperature does not rise directly to 40, somewhere 37-38 degrees was in my stove, but it is very stable. I didn't use it for yogurt, because I keep the jars in a water bath, and I strive to fill the machine's oil seal for a long time.
Although if you make a bath in a bag? Here is blunted. You could have put other dishes. Only now it has come
Still, first you should check for yogurt. Degrees may not pull.

Hey, who made yogurt on the service?

Alevtina, looked, looked for instructions and did not find. I would also like to see the bourgeois version, but I don't see it anywhere. Somehow I am doing a search clumsily.

Although if you make a bath in a bag

What for? Cover the mechanism with an inverted bowl or an empty tin can, put a can of milk + sourdough and truncated on this structure. Without any bath.

At least a few days.

What, is not limited in time? Redmond has a standard setting of 8 hours, but is adjustable from 20 minutes to 12 hours.

The only thing is that the temperature does not rise directly to 40, somewhere around 37-38 degrees, but it is very stable.

Excellent, what you need!

Hey, who made yogurt on the service?

I subscribe to the question.

that .. I completely blunted it. You don't even need to cover anything. Throw in another dish instead of a bucket and it's in the bag. The service mode is not logged. It is to test the machine for performance. Turned it on - it works until you turn it off. There is no stirrer, only heats the ten.

girls and boys, measure, pliz, degrees at your service.
And then my machine was old. Does everyone have 37-38? or is it different? The service manual says UP TO 40 degrees.That is, in theory, it should not exceed 40 degrees, but theoretically it can even be 35 in general. And 35 is not enough for yogurt.

You don't even need to cover anything. Throw in another dish instead of a bucket and it's in the bag.

Does the mechanism interfere? Redmond has small pins sticking out there, you have to cover.

[delicious]

I bake bread for home every day. Already 7 years went.

Vital, Len, you need to be photographed together in a Panasonic advertisement.
And the slogan: "7 years of tireless experience in baking bread! Stuck in, poked, took out - very delicious... This is exclusively Panasonic! "

No, not like that: "It's a Pany Sony!"
(By the way, I will readily join! I can dance!)
Vital,

Here is the new beauty Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS

I looked at this beauty Immediately impressed by the price! The price is super !!! The absence of the Frenchman finally did not notice, he doesn't give a damn about me. I cooked, crunched, a peculiarity only in the cooking time, and so ... in general from the "felt-tip pens" series. No disps? A big plus ", gyy, there is only one scapula! It's also good - they removed the scallop. And the biggest plus is my favorite ragged roof at the bread! (Y) Vesch! And the crust ..." Do you need to go or checkers? " -Three bites and what? Pralna! "Think for yourself, decide for yourself ... crunch or not crunch" Yes, and French or not French.

Turned it on - it works until you turn it off.

Is the time counting down? It is convenient when the time is ticking, especially when you put the dough on proofing, you can put it on for 1.5 hours and it will beep, otherwise I can twist and forget.

Well, I was already accused of cooperation with Panasonic. And what am I ... I do not mind, just pay, the rich man, he would not offend him.
Or maybe he would give us a freebie, eh? I would only bargain for the bourgeois option.

... "Do you need a taxi or checkers?

Oh, even if I have gray hair and the mood is playful ...

It is convenient when the time is ticking, especially when you put the dough on proofing, you can put it on for 1.5 hours and it will beep, otherwise I can twist and forget.

Nothing goes there, Galya, forget it!
Set yourself an alarm clock!

I was already accused of cooperation with Panasonic

Oh, I can't uuu !!!
We all work for Panasonic ...
Only even premiums are not to be seen!

[fffuntic]

Somehow I am doing a search clumsily.

fffuntic, Lena, and that's good! On Krostina, the discount has also begun, and you would start singing praises to her - I definitely would not resist

[Galina]

Galina, no, there is no convenience in this regard. You will have to keep track of time yourself and set yourself an alarm clock. You must understand, we call it a mode, but in fact it is a performance test for a service engineer, launched by a special key combination. The machine heats up, and he does something there. A typewriter for a long time, but it doesn't follow anything. We do everything ourselves.



Sveta, and you just an impatient crust? You generally have a potbelly stove, you will quite endure it.
I'm not going to PR for that kind of money. They went nuts. Lan - Moscow, but in the provinces just like a helicopter.
Over time, it will age, the price will become acceptable, and then we will buy. By the way .. maybe some flaws will emerge and then make even better versions.
You might think that now our current machines have bad crusts.

You might think that the current typewriter has bad crusts right now.

The crusts are awesome !!!

The bourgeois version is the same as I understood (on the Technopark website there is a photo of the stove, where the characteristics are)

I wonder if the new model in the "Baking" mode has the ability to choose the color of the crust?

There is no such possibility. (I watched this stove in the store)

Well, actually I understand the idea of ​​not including crust selection on baked goods. This crust is controlled by the baking time. Look at the mode plate for the time for the crusts and set yourself. There is still no temperature control on the baking, everything sets the time.
And Panasonic does not even look towards programming.

[Olga_Ma]

You generally have a potbelly stove, you will quite endure it.

Len, yes, you're right ... But Panasik is so cool that my roof is tearing me up because of how reliable and problem-free he is. This is, perhaps, the first device on which I have the idea - or maybe another one of the same, they will suddenly run out. Although this is complete insanity, of course.

Olga_Ma, Olga,

I know that you have a wonderful assistant in baking bread - the assistant. Honestly, I bake daily bread in Panasika in full cycle. But I was lucky - mine love soft bread. And so that white wheat does not fall apart in buffers, I add 100 grams of semolina T, for flavor - white malt and a tablespoon of whey from the entire volume of liquid per loaf of 500 grams of flour. Yes, long breads are cool, but I rarely have calm days for this, and in the confusion I do not know how to bake such bread.

In general, with a pure heart I advise - take it. I have a "low-yeast" program in the European 2501. By the way, I returned the 2502 after one baking - for some reason it made a lot of noise for me during kneading. But I was small and inexperienced then. Maybe she was wrong ...

And Panasonic does not even look towards programming

Perhaps this is more reliable, otherwise it will be programmed who knows what.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, Sveta, thank you, I'm leaning towards 2512 on Lena's advice fffuntic, found in several online stores in Moscow

I have a thought - maybe buy another one of the same, suddenly run out

It can not be

[Sveta]

Sveta, I would have supported you in the definitions earlier, but now not at all. They gave up the production of multicooker. They refused, although they were almost the first in our market with them and we are in great demand.
Figs knows that if Europe changes its mind about baking bread at home, they will curtail production.
I agree with you, any stove will be useful for Panasiks. But you need to have a mind, if too off-budget. Wait until it becomes more acceptable.
And control the situation. They may well curl up. They just roll up for a long time. Buy from the leftovers can be quite in time.

program unknown what

Everything is already preinstalled.
(Who wants to bake himself!
Indian problems are Indian problems!)