Cirre
Quote: Olga_Ma
it seems necessary

If you eat and bake bread, then of course it is necessary, and if not, then it is not necessary
Svetlenki
Quote: Cirre
If you eat bread and bake

She bakes such bread in the oven that I don't even know if our Panasik will approach these masterpieces or how

Olga_Ma, Ol, I saw your loaf of Emile Henri
$ vetLana
Quote: Cirre
If you eat and bake bread, then of course it is necessary, and if not, then it is not necessary
I would buy, even for infrequent baking. I love ochchchen: nyam: pizza. Panasik kneads pizza dough perfectly.
Maybe other HPs do it just as well, I don't know.
Olga_Ma
Cirre, Galina, $ vetLana, Sveta, please forgive me, these are thoughts out loud, I understand that no one will solve this issue except me, I just wrote earlier that I bake in the oven, but sometimes there is no time, so I think about HP Panasonic
$ vetLana
Quote: Svetlenki
She bakes such bread in the oven that I don't even know if our Panasik will approach these masterpieces or how
This is a different story. I shut up.
Olga_Ma
Svetlenki, Svetochka, thank you, I got it yesterday, baked 2 loaves, I really liked Hamelman and his recipes
Svetlenki
Quote: Olga_Ma
I'm sorry, these are thoughts out loud

Ol, why are you sorry ?! In no case. As you probably already understood, we consider any Panasik to be the best choice of a bread machine. If you have situations when you need to give yourself some rest or there is absolutely no time to devote to oven bread, then you need to take it. But the bread from the bread machine is different - softer, the crust is different.




Quote: Olga_Ma
fell in love with Hamelman and his recipes

In-in, your bar is not low there, let's just say ... You pamper your nobles with bread
Cirre
Olga, then only as an assistant when there is no time in the oven.
Olga_Ma
Quote: Cirre
then only as an assistant when there is no time in the oven.
Here I am about it
Quote: Svetlenki
your bar is not low there
Sveta, you know, he actually has such simple recipes, this one on ripe dough and buttermilk, something I can't insert a picture
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fffuntic
If the conversation is about buying from the shop window,

then this must be done very carefully. Firstly, there may be a lack of details, for example, some thread from the blades. Second, it may have been turned on more than once, hit, dropped, and so on. That is, you need to properly inspect such a machine, check the entire package.
In general, if from a showcase or not from a showcase, I would not have taken from a showcase. From the showcase, it can at least be shabby.
If it is the last one, then take it. I took my brand from the showcase and nothing ... But I also bought the last programmable one from the showcase to my friend, I forgot the name, so they didn’t report the spatula to me, they generally lost it, then I quietly ordered the service myself and didn’t admit to my friend that fell into such a purchase.


And if about buying a Panasik, then Olya has soooo harvesters, and, probably, an oven to match them. There is not a single HP to keep up. But panasya is just an additional convenience. So decent and nice.
Olga_Ma
fffuntic, Helen, it will not work from the window for sure, since the site was withered 2511, in fact there was 2512 (all shabby, the lid is shaking) and 2510 turned out to be in the warehouse, this is such a mvideo, but I don’t want to buy and put it on the shelf in thought
Cirre
Olga_Ma, Olga, and maybe someone you can go see and try?
Svetlenki
Olga_Ma, Olga, listen, well, I can't help but giggle. I climbed onto Avito. When we started our defirambs for Panasonic in a parallel topic a week or two ago, there were a lot of proposals. Now I decided to look, maybe I can find 2512 for more acceptable money for you to play with - grind everything

Quote: Olga_Ma
do not want to buy and put on the shelf

Think, ask, interrogate us, we will help you. But you can only decide for yourself, of course.
Olga_Ma
Galina, no one has tomorrow at our forum member I will ask
Cirre
Olga, from ours, with HP you need to ask around
Olga_Ma
Svetlenki, Light, not only that !!! not in any store !!!! (I was going to order on the official website). Funny, we came to the store, there is a couple, it’s also worth thinking, what do you think, I sold them hp, the seller went nuts !!!!
fffuntic
and I see a lot of stoves on Avito. Optional Voronezh, you can agree on the delivery of a transport company. Well, yes, you have to trust people. Moreover, now Avito itself can make the delivery, or you can negotiate with the transport one so that they can take it straight from the seller's house and pack it with high quality.
Zamorochka
Olga, and at the officers of Panasonic did not look at Panasonic? There a new model appeared on sale. They deliver quickly.
Olga_Ma
Zamorochka, Galya, I've been in the basket for five days already, I think ........ Natasha was tormented today by her
Zamorochka
Olya, I have a 12th model, as happy as an elephant with her. Natalia also advised me exactly Panasonic)))) I'm looking at the new model, but the price bites)))
Olga_Ma
Gal, 2000 is not on the site and it costs almost 23 !!!!! I need it, if I don't have time to bake in the oven (and my husband will like a friend from hp) there are 2510 in the mvideo, so I think we can not drive (my husband looked at 2512 in the window and he did not like it), I am sure that prices will still rise now, but I don't want to buy and deliver either
Zamorochka
Ol, yes they are not particularly different in functionality, and the design is repeated. If you sometimes need it, then maybe you should take the 10th model, but you said that it is a display case, its complete set, and how is its appearance?
fffuntic
girls. 2512 - a complete set of programs, rye + low-yeast. The only rattlesnake dispenser for yeast is
2510 - there are no dispensers at all and there is no rye program, but there is a low-yeast program. Well, the rye program is not shabby, but it is highly replaceable. Low-yeast is steeper than rye, more necessary if you like wheat bread.
2500 - no rye, no low-yeast, no dispensers - well, an old model. You can live, but without low-yeast. Well .... with longing only if. Then you need to take 2510, not 2500, 2510 is the same as 2500, but with low yeast.

In general, 2511 is the optimum !! the truncated necessary is there without unnecessary rumble
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Zamorochka
Quote: fffuntic
The only dispenser-rattlesnake for yeast is
I've gotten used to this sound
fffuntic
Well, if there is an old one to choose from, then I would choose 2512. I would also get used to it. But I trudge from the burgeois. This is where the real luxury of software is. And all of them are "Panasikovskie".
But if we have, then you have to rummage through the series 2510, 2511, 2512. Because of the low-yeast mode, if you like wheat bread.

Olya, I have already understood that the design of bork-kenwood is more impressive in your family .. And my husband won't like any panasy. But Panasi has delicious bread.
Wit
Quote: Olga_Ma
stood 2512 (all shabby, the lid is shaking)
Well, what about the shaking walk - you got excited. Covers have little backlash for all Panasiks. This does not affect the quality of the bread. They would take 2510 and not suffer.
I have come across transport companies. No complaints, except that it is a little more expensive and longer. But they brought me to work and home all safe and sound.
Good luck to you!

As for the "rattlesnake" -disp for yeast. This is how your money is thundering, thrown into the wind for completely unnecessary pribluda. And even harmful.
Dasha 001
Olga_Ma, Olga can take 257 on Avito for your occasional needs? That's just from under my nose they took away in perfect condition 257 for 2000. I want to put everything in reserve. (what if we buy a summer cottage in the summer, how can I be there without a stove.: D in general, there is still no mention of the summer cottage, and I already mentally took one of the cartoons, an old blender and a manual meat grinder there, not enough stove))) me 2511 is a great model. There is everything you need. (Also that year I thought to overpay a couple of three thousand for a dispensary for yeast or not) in the end the toad won)) but did not lose
Olga_Ma
Yes, I already understood that 2511 is the best option for us, there is both low-yeast and rye. Guys, thank you all very much for your advice.
Pochemuchki
Hello everyone, happy holidays! Now I am also with you, or rather with Panasonic (2511). And in this topic I have long ago, when I decided that this particular stove would be next. So thank you all for all the valuable information.Now I'm adjusting my recipes. Here is one of:


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Flour total 350 g:
a / c -180 g
1 s - 130 g
c / z - 40 g

Liquid only 270 ml;
water - 120 ml
serum - 80 ml
milk - 70 ml

Sugar - 0.8 tbsp l.
Salt - 0.8 tsp.
Plum oil - 15 g
Pressed yeast Lux - 7 g.

Diet mode, M, medium crust, but turned it off 5 minutes earlier, turned red.

The same recipe, in French, yeast 4 grams, a little sugar to activate.

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The bread, of course, is amazing, Santa Claus brought a great gift!

mamusi
Quote: Pochemuchki
Hello everyone, happy holidays! Now I am also with you, or rather with Panasonic (2511).
I'm very glad, congratulations on your purchase.
You have a miracle bread! Let Panasik continue to give joy!
Irinap
Pochemuchki, that's what Santa Claus is great - he pleases! Happy for you!
$ vetLana
Quote: Pochemuchki
Now I am with you too, or rather with Panasonic (2511)
(y) Congratulations! Santa Claus - respect
Olga_Ma
Pochemuchki, Anyuta, congratulations on your assistant !!!! let it only please, and Santa Claus - well done !!!!
Pochemuchki
Thanks to all! Panasik is certainly cool both in terms of technical features and results. The husband said that he is like a spaceship. My daughter, having tasted the first bread, was so surprised: "Mom, what kind of bread is so delicious." And the recipe is as always, only the stove is different.
mamusi
Quote: Pochemuchki
The husband said that he is like a spaceship.
Here !!!

(Another slogan for Advertising from Lenuski fffuntic)))
So: how will it be ... then uh ...
I'll find now!
Here is their joint with Vitom slogan:Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 7534
Wit
I am not a screw I am a wit !!!
Anchic
Vitaly, I suspect that these are jokes from T9
mamusi
Quote: Anchic
I suspect that these are jokes from T9
True truth!
Vital, I'm sorry!
Mandraik Ludmila
Anyuta, Congratulations! There are many pleasant moments ahead, let Panasik please the family
Wit
Quote: Anchic
Vitaly, I suspect that these are jokes from T9
It happens.
Quote: mamusi
True truth!
And there is!
Olga_Ma
I am silent, and you know why, because I bake bread in Panasonic and this is thanks to Lenochka b] fffuntic [/ b], here are two breads according to the same recipe (from my beloved Hamelman)Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) on rye mode (Lenochka cursed for a long time why I chose him, but I had to compare with my bork)
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it is on French mode with a 1 gram reduction in yeast.
I decided to buy a 2511 stove, but my husband suddenly said, maybe Krustina is better and needs to be ordered, and now I sit and think, but we can really her
Yes, there is no French regime in it, but there is a dietary one (the same time). Eh, at least one real review.
mamusi
Quote: Olga_Ma
I bake bread in Panasonic
So that? Have you bought it? I don’t understand!)
Olga_Ma
Margarita, no, Rita, Lena rented
mamusi
Great!
So I just thought ... I would try to bake one or two times from someone I know!
And here it is!
Lenus, you are smart!
Olga_Ma,, Ol, well, how do you taste?))
Well, compared to the oven - much worse? ..

Quote: Olga_Ma
Krustina is better
So I did not fully understand ... Krustina - what kind of oven, whose? Firm???
Or I missed this information. Or you don't finish everything.
I read it, but I can't find the very beginning ...
Olga_Ma
mamusi, Rita, really, thanks to Lena, it's been a day for my husband and mother-in-law forcing bread to try and say, like it or not. And with bork there is a huge difference, and you will laugh, but it turns out in mvideo in one of our shopping centers there is 2511 in the window (I saw it yesterday, although I was told that it was not there), but it is already all scratched. And it was so scary to bake bread in xn, and then put it here




mamusi, Rita, of course the taste is slightly different, BUT not for the worse by no means !!!!! Krustina is the 2000 model, which is the most expensive on the Panasonic website
Svetlenki
Olga_Ma, Ol, you can be insolent and give advice. Take the recipe for milk bread from the instructions for the HP. This is a delicious bread. I would still start with the quantities in the recipes from the book to Panasonic. Then you will introduce Hamelman.

In my opinion, in the first case, there is a significant shortage of fluid, and in the second, there is an obvious overload.

There are reviews about crostin on Amazon. I lick my lips at her.

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mamusi
Quote: Svetlenki
I lick my lips at her.
What to start wanting?
Olga_Ma
Svetlenki, Sveta, thanks, and according to the recipe, you will laugh - the amount of ingredients is the same, except for yeast, in the last 4 grams
Svetlenki
Quote: Olga_Ma
except yeast

Wow ... Some kind of mysticism ... Ol, yes you will make friends with Panasonic, I don't even doubt it.
Quote: mamusi
So I did not fully understand ... Krustina - what kind of oven, whose? Firm???
Or I missed this information. Or you don't finish everything.
I read it, but I can't find the very beginning ...

mamusi, Rit, right here

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Crown
Quote: Olga_Ma
but according to the recipe, you will laugh - the amount of ingredients is the same, except for yeast, in the last 4 grams
And the modes differ greatly in the number and time of kneading and proofing time? In the first case, it looks like undersized, and the second is just perfectly mixed.

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