Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

[S]

Yesterday brought Panasonic SD-2511WTS

Congratulations on a great purchase! And welcome to our ranks!

who vkurse what wts means

Wts - it seems to be white means

I have 2502 WTS, and it is not white at all ... I don't remember exactly, but I read somewhere that it is for which countries

As for the letters and numbers in the name, this is service data, but something is known:

WXA For Switzerland
WTS For Russia (for Russia / CIS)
KXC For UK
BxE For Belgium (for Belgium /Europe)

According to observations, it turns out like this:
W (White) - white
B (Black) - black ... I doubt
K ... - possibly combined, which with a metal body, but plastic top and bottom.

I don't know for sure the intermediate letters.

In general, these are all service numbers and letters, they answered me that way.

This is through which union the transfer goes, "AND", "OR"?
Common sense suggests that "OR", but decided to clarify.

What is written in one table - ALL "AND" !!! One table - one complete recipe!
For yeast "OR", according to the baking program, normal - B, fast - R

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Thank you, I'll know, otherwise yesterday I drove all the "dumplings" away. Now I pulled it out of the refrigerator, I wanted to let it warm up, but it seems to me that it will stop during this time. In general, I did.

Hello ))

I purchased the SD-ZB2512 bread machine. Today for the first time I baked bread with a timer delay for the morning. After the end of the program, a beep sounded 8 times. I didn't want to get up and turn off. About a minute later, repeated 8 signals were heard. In a minute more ... then another ... Is that how it should be? Can this signal be turned off altogether?

Sorry for the stupid question))

[merlin274]

merlin274Happy acquisition of you
This signal does not turn off, it exists for this purpose so that you can pull out your bread in time ... You just need to set the timer initially by the time when you are definitely not sleeping

[Dark steppe eagle]

Dark steppe eagle,

merlin274, Happy acquisition of you

Thank you )))

It took me a long time to choose a new assistant. I hope I made a good choice. I am very happy with the first bread.

Before that she baked in Redmond. She stopped kneading the dough. Disappointed in the products and in service ... Out of six months of owning the oven, the store pretended to be repairing it for three months ... I still can't get money.

You just need to set the timer initially by the time when you are definitely not asleep.

Thank you so much for your prompt response) In the end, I will just close the doors. ) Neighbors only feel sorry for ... They can hear. We'll have to share our morning baked goods. )

I hope I made a good choice.

Very lucky

[IRINAp]

IRINAp, Ira, I immediately put it into HP from the hollow and turn on the program. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right? But the bread is tall and tasty. (500 gr. - under the roof)

Well, here's my bread with proofing in the refrigerator for 10 hours and immediately in the HP. Still, it was necessary to give a little rest after the cold (pulled). The scapula was pulled out, so I tore off the stick from the pin to try. In my opinion, even nothing. Let it rest.

[IRINAp]

IRINAp, Ira what do you mean "pulled"?

AAA! What am I doing wrong ? I can't insert (actually I'm doing it for the first time)


There is a small gap

Lenchik! Funtik! Tell me, teach me!
Can I put a bucket of dough from the withers in the HP and turn on the program (I have low yeast)?

Neighbors only feel sorry for ... They can hear.

Is the signal so loud? On the contrary, many complain that the signal is not heard from another room. Unlike a dispenser. It squeaks quietly. If I don't turn it off right away, then nothing terrible happens. He took out the bread and an hour and two later without any consequences for him.

There is a small gap

So what?
Great bread!

He, this is all in one recipe therefore "And"

Found a comment today by Korata
About dry yeast (SAF and not only ..) # 3
+ found information on yeast here
Yeast - types, use, bookmark, selection
from which "OR" comes out. Although I have an assumption that this refers to yeast. With regard to flour, I think it will still be "I".

Right now I have put on my first batch, and the delicious smell of burning chemistry delivers indescribable pleasure. How long will all this spraying burn? Do you have statistics?

And another question from the past. As I understand it, additives from the dispenser will be added automatically, but what about the "cheese bread"? Mittens are drawn in the instructions, but there is no description of what this means. You have to think out. This means that when this icon is highlighted, the cheese must be put-
a) a despenser?
b) in a bucket?
Something the instruction is detailed in those things where it is not necessary, and at the same time there are gaps in the necessary things!

Shl. Thanks people, when can I put it here? Knop did not find.

I immediately put it from the hollow into the HP and turn on the program

Is this any bread according to this scheme?

[is he]

is he, mittens for HP without a dispenser. You have a dispenser. If the threshold is with additives, then it is put into the dispenser.




Thank you under the ava.



Mirabel, no.

[is he]

is he, There is also a dispenser in my stove, but I practically never use it, neither one nor the other ... I fall asleep, if necessary, both cheese and sausage along with all the ingredients at once ... but how you like it I don't know ...
And yeast, too, always fall asleep right in the bucket

Neighbors only feel sorry for ... They can hear.

I think that most likely they do not hear, but it smells very tasty and they salivate

[is he]

is he, there is a baked goods program. This means the filling is thrown at a signal with your hands (the mittens are lit at the same time). This is just for the laying of cheese and other products that can stick together in the dispensary. Dispenser for dry fillers.

[pens]

As I understand it, additives from the dispenser will be added automatically, but what about the "cheese bread"? Mittens are drawn in the instructions, but there is no description of what this means. You have to think out. This means that when this icon is highlighted, the cheese must be put-
a) a despenser?
b) in a bucket?

Yes, additives from the dispenser are added automatically, which means you don't have to do anything. (Read the instructions for the additive dispenser information)
Only dry additives can be placed in the additive dispenser, as described in the instructions. Cheese, sausage, chocolate ... and other melting / melting / very fatty / ... additives are added manually on a signal.
You can put all the additives at the start in a bucket with all the other ingredients, then the stove will immediately mix everything into the dough and when it beeps reminding you of the additives, you can ignore it, the stove will automatically turn on for further work (pause for adding 5 minutes).
You can try both options for adding and choose what you like best. When adding additives at the start, some may simply completely dissolve in the dough from heat and long kneading.




The panel lights up pens, not mittens, which means - add manually.
Sorry, but mittens / potholders are specifically different, they are needed only for manipulating the hot bucket, so as not to get burned. Potholders are not needed to add cheese.
And the pens - even in the instructions, are drawn with fingers.

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, This is bread on rye sourdough 100% + added dry yeast just a little bit, only the bottom is covered in a measuring teaspoon.
Whole grain flour, "Kopeyka" and rye. Since the composition is very lightweight, the liquid went away decently. If you like it, I'll work it out.

[Wit]

Wit,

Is the signal so loud? On the contrary, many complain that the signal is not heard from another room.

I think that most likely they do not hear,

Well, maybe I listened as to a child who is sleeping. ) Because I baked for the first time. In general, the kitchen is at the other end of the apartment. Audibility in the house is good. At 6 am anyway, when it's quiet. I can hear the neighbors' microwaves, alarm clocks, and phones. I was just surprised by her persistence. Not just squeaked 8 times, but right now she calls and calls to her. Well, if it is necessary, then it must be Suffered

but it smells very tasty and their mouth water is flowing

It's true. The neighbors in the apartment across the street told me that I had included them in unforeseen expenses.They had to buy a bread maker because I exhausted them with my bread smells

[can]

I purchased the SD-ZB2512 bread machine.

Congratulations on your purchase!

Try setting the timer once so that the bread is ready when you can take it out right away. Compare with what happens when the finished bread is waiting in the HP. At least - the crust will be different.

Half an hour after the end of baking, the bread maker maintains a certain temperature in the heating mode, and then turns off. When the bread cools down, the steam coming out of it remains condensation on the sides of the bucket and the crust damp.

Well, maybe I listened as to a child who is sleeping. ) Because I baked for the first time. In general, the kitchen is at the other end of the apartment. Audibility in the house is good. At 6 am anyway, when it's quiet. I can hear the neighbors' microwaves, alarm clocks, and phones. I was just surprised by her persistence. Not just squeaked 8 times, but right now she calls and calls to her. Well, if it is necessary, then it must be Suffered

Oh, how serious everything is.
Try to set the delay for longer, the bread maker does not care at all, but to inform about the readiness of the bread - she MUST. And if he insists that way, then the manufacturer has set it up so that the bread is pulled out on time.
In addition, the functions of HP provide for easier life and convenience. therefore can make sure that there is no morning squeaking terror for the family.

[Waist]

Waist,

Congratulations on your purchase!

Thank you) It was not an easy choice. I had to read a lot. I would be glad if I chose what I dreamed of.

Try setting the timer once so that the bread is ready when you can take it out right away. Compare with what happens when the finished bread is waiting in the HP. At least - the crust will be different.

Thanks for the advice. Of course I try to get it out right away, but I don't always manage to plan the day.

I also read the recommendations to cover the bucket before the first batch with a foil lid, and then remove it ... So that the flour does not dust. And if I put in all the ingredients at once and do not use the dispenser, can I not remove it during the whole cycle? I usually bake with a delayed start.

[merlin274]

I also read the recommendations to cover the bucket before the first batch with a foil lid, and then remove it ... So that the flour does not dust. And if I put in all the ingredients at once and do not use the dispenser, can I not remove it during the whole cycle? I usually bake with a delayed start.

Honestly, I read about this only for cases when you have to add flour or liquid to an already formed kolobok, then it becomes very dusty or splashes.
With normal laying of food, the flour does not dust so much that the bucket is closed

merlin274, but you know, I've already read several times that in the process of kneading it happens, the bun touches what is covered (bag, foil, kitchen towel ...) and, it's sticky - pulls it into a bucket, and then it kneads everything into itself. is there such a risk ??

Never covered a bucket since 2012. 3 or 4 times the edges of the bucket were not even in flour, but dusty with flour in one or two places. And what? He took out some bread, let the bucket cool, washed it as always. And where do you only find this garbage about covering?

Thank you under the ava.

No, my dear young lady, I am dumb. Understood, I will write to the administrator, or read the rules.

I fall asleep, if necessary, and cheese and sausage along with all the ingredients at once

Thank you! I'll take a look. Do you fall asleep on mittens? Or earlier?

that can stick together in the dispensary

Thanks, I thought so. But it's one thing to assume, it's another to know for sure.

Read the instructions for information about the additive dispenser

Insulted to the bone
I am one of the degenerate types of people who enjoy reading more than writing. Topic Admin, read already 2/3.

Handles light up on the panel, not mittens

I have mittens / potholders drawn in the instructions. Maybe something has changed with the version. I never lie! I'd rather not answer the question than lie. There are reasons for this.

I got an oven thermometer and a scale up to 0.01g. Zdoroveevo's order was quickly fulfilled!
I just lacked these weights if you count. But recently recipes for bread of 0.125 g of dry yeast began to come across. Well, how can you measure them? Maybe another roll, but I'm very glad.

["Thank"]

No, my dear young lady, I am dumb.

Her, dear sir. Everyone under the ava has "Thank" ... And definitely not under your personal one, tk. You don't have to thank yourself. If you want to thank someone, then look for him (her) under the "Thank you" button and press.

[Waist]

Waist,

it is sticky - it pulls it into a bucket, and then it mixes everything into itself. Is such a risk necessary?

Thank you Immediately it became easier to live)

[is he]

is he, Under the avatar and the loaf there is an inscription "messages", then the inscription "thank", so press it

Sasha, he is looking for this inscription under his own. Understand, not all at once.

Insulted to the bone

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend at all. It's just that now people are mostly very busy, they read very selectively. And after reading ALL the instructions, not everyone can remember all the nuances at once. Sorry

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend at all.

That is not, I'm not offensive. I'm joking. There is so much help here that the current stupid can take offense. Thanks for the help!

[Svetik]

Svetikif tasty, then you can

and if you just meticulously understand, then .. yes, in theory, you should definitely wake up the bread.
Why? because in the refrigerator the gluten gets very cold and becomes inextensible and elastic. Condensation may also form immediately due to temperature differences.
If you immediately shove it into heat, then extremely uneven heating begins, that is, the stress on the cold and elastic gluten is strong and uneven, this breaks it and spoils it, which can affect the crumb and even taste.
Generally there can be an unplanned look with taste.
Then yeast. Yeast is more difficult. If in the refrigerator they fell asleep earlier than they had eaten, that is, they saved their strength, then they gassed for the last time into tight gluten and there may be crust breaks in the bread.
If the yeast in the refrigerator is already full and fell asleep, when it has worked out and there is no food or air left, then at the time of heating it will not gas much.
Theoretically, it is necessary to pull it out, warm it up so that the yeast comes to life, the gluten relaxes, then knead, shape, that is, give an influx of new food and put it for proofing in a given size.
Well, the taste should become richer. Because not only cold bacteria will work in bread, but also warm ones. And if the bread is not ripe in the refrigerator, then it will have time to ripen in the warmth.

This is theoretical.
But there is a nuance from the point of view of placing immediately in the HP. HP is not a stove. HP imitates a "cold oven", that is, the bread gradually heats up quietly, that is, in HP we give short-lived, but still revitalization and heating to our dough, the attitude turns out to be more gentle towards gluten and gentle heating.
Then, if the recipe is worked out according to the amount of yeast, according to the ideal sitting time of the dough in the refrigerator, then you can get an excellent result that will completely suit you and the difference in taste will be just a few percent, which can be experienced due to the convenience of cooking on the machine and in time.

Vital, as they say, better late than never.
Here on honey and without me there was a competent opinion with reference to the opinion of the pros. As for the poison .. there everything is written about small percentiles .. the body will not notice))), but it is bad to heat honey from the culinary side. Not because of harm, but because of the translation of an awesome product. When heated, honey changes chemically, unique honey chips in terms of ease of assimilation and usefulness drop sharply. It's like with cottage cheese. You can warm it up, but it's healthier to live.
And if it's not a pity, then you can heat as much as you like)))

[is he]

is he, have you already baked something?

[is he]

is he, you analyze what you read.
The instruction is the same in proportions for several countries, where different flours, different yeasts.
We all have different yeast in the store. Therefore, you will not have to look at the instructions, but make test bread and look at your result. Draw conclusions and adjust the amount of yeast and moisture for yourself.

Then..you immediately took up complex mixed breads with the addition of CH (whole grain) flour and something else there. Therefore, so many questions arose.
I understand how I want to get the first delicious bread. But I strongly advise a beginner to start with flour c. from. It is on V. from. study the kolobok rule and adjust the amount of yeast. If problems and misunderstandings arise, it is easier to find the cause and learn how to fix it. And then you can complicate your task.

Put sausage into the simplest bread and see how it's done. It will immediately become clear - where is hot and where is not. How much additives crumble.
One has only to stick your nose into the stove a couple of times and everything becomes very clear... And even if it comes out lumpy, the theory will become clearer than an example)))

I remember reading once: "Look and see". These concepts are different.

I'm not from this opera.

He, have you already baked something?

Toka stuck a voluminous bread out of the bucket 100% like it, I know that.

He, you analyze what you read.

Honestly no.

[IRINAp]

IRINAp,

scales up to 0.01g

But where did you buy it, do not share the reference? Otherwise, I always use only such portions of yeast: 1/8 or 1/6 teaspoon, I drew the lower half of the measuring spoon into 4 parts, but it is difficult to catch such levels ..

[Irina]

Irina, I sincerely don't understand when recipes give hundredths of a gram of yeast. But what if I have other yeast? and what-now, to sit without bread?
I already know without a prescription how much of my yeast I need to put on a certain weight of bread.
and if I make a mistake once, then the second time I will correct
If you do not know and are in doubt, make a test baking with a small amount of ingredients and see the result. A second time, adjust the amount to match the ideal.

And I live fine without medical scales. Well, what prevents you from remembering the right amount of yeast in a measuring spoon))))



And I also drew a spoon in a circle)))) to make it easier to watch. To be honest, well, I didn’t notice that one hundredth part of yeast somehow had too much effect on 400 g of flour. The error in the spoon perfectly suits the mnu)))
but live in general I already cut by eye

no .. it's me not against the scales, no no just if they are not there, you can still live on breadm

[fffuntic]

fffuntic,

I have 1/5 tsp. yeast bread sticks into the window of the bread machine (not Panasonic, I never bought it, I want programmable ...), but 1/6 everything is fine. Sometimes the hand trembles, and you have to push it back into the bag from the measuring spoon
I thought maybe it would be more convenient with weights ...
Do you think Brand 3801 is worth catching with? Its programming suits me, but, they say, the mechanical part itself let us down .. Do you use it?

[Gibus]

Gibus, Site "Zdoroveevo"



fffuntic, It explains, for example, I don't remember literally: dilute 1 g of yeast in 100 ml of water, then take how many ml it is and it will be 0.12 g. This is for example. We proceed from what we have. Well, okay, who often comes across this will quickly figure out, but for others it is higher mathematics

[Gibus]

Gibus,

my brandyukha bakes crusts weaker than panasik. I covered the window with a bucket with foil, almost laid a pillow, violating all the rules of operation, but French in Panasica is French in Panasica.
Therefore, the firebrand is good for me where I don't need a crunch. This dough according to GOST, these are Easter cakes ..
and all sorts of complex delights. Programming in it is very flexible and adjustable, in general - lovely.
But for every day only Panas, because of its cool pastries.
And .. a bucket. The bucket must be protected from the first day in the fireman. Smear it with grease. Mine is still alive. But I don't use it every day. Only on weekends or holidays. And with horror I think what will happen if something goes wrong. Parts will be harder and harder to find every year.

Therefore, smart programming and while it works - a lovely stove. But I can't recommend buying. What will happen if it breaks down - I do not know. I eat with her like a written sack.

[IRINAp]

IRINAp, Thank you

Interesting site. There, it turns out, there are still very small measuring spoons. Maybe they will be even more convenient for me ...

fffuntic,

thank you, I thought something like that .. in addition, in my region they are not, but from hand to city - stressful and risky ...

Please help me find a recipe for a Panasonic bread maker for sweet buns.

[Irina]

Irina, well, if you strive for complete perfection with a repetition of the recipe from the chef, then you need to buy yeast, just like his, and breed it like he breeds.
and what's the point of dissolving and measuring, if mine did not even stand next to them at all. And mnu does not have a laboratory to measure and calculate the lifting force))
I'll take it and stick it in, as I'm used to, remember how much I put it in, and I'll see .. what happens, and if I'm wrong, I'll correct it in practice.
I will have to pick the amount myself and a measuring spoon will do just fine.

As far as I understand, if there was HP for a loaf of 500 g, then the scales are definitely needed. Wrong by a gram with 200 g of flour and it will already be noticeable.
And the larger the loaf, the more error can be allowed, the ride.

Please help me find a recipe for a Panasonic bread maker for sweet buns.

There are many recipes for various sweet buns on the site, choose any and then you can cook in different ways.
For example, you can take any of your dough recipes and knead in HP using a suitable dough program. Then form buns from the finished dough, let them come up and bake in the oven.

Bertina Sweet Milk Buns (GruSha)

It is possible to bake in KhP according to the principle of monkey bread. For example :

Sweet Arabic bread (bread maker) (Alxndr)

And you can do everything from beginning to end in one sweet loaf in HP. For example:

Sweet bread for a bread machine (Scarecrow)

[fffuntic]

fffuntic, so the chief has the correct scales, he explains this for those who do not.

Oh, well, you wrote down here, I was tired of reading About scales up to 0.01, "jewelry" up to 200g, I bought it for myself, just for yeast, though not for hundredths, but for accuracy 1-2g, up to tenths.

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, yes, I actually have a hundredth share and it doesn't matter, I bought what I got. Before that I ordered on ozone, waited for nothing. Refused to order.
fffuntic, thank you for the science, but I don't need a lot of bread. And now it turned out healthy, but tasty. My problem is that I didn't immediately pay attention to good advice. And she rushed: but I will try to make the leaven, what will happen. It turned out and off it went, but now I was tired and started almost from the beginning.

About the sound signal, if we are fast asleep, we do not hear at all, clarification, who does not know: our house is not divided into rooms, the Panasik is behind a not very large wardrobe separating the sleeping area from the dining-kitchen-guest area, If I doze, I hear. So the neighbors will definitely not hurt, and behind the closed door, the children will definitely not hear