Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Apart from the sound that resembles the click of an AKM shutter, why is the dispenser bad?

I don't really need this sound, as it bangs, and why even then 2 times in a row, so you can become a stutterer

and why is it 2 times in a row

Only? I have 3-4 times. The first time the yeast dispenser worked when I was watching the dough, I almost threw the lid on. The family still reacts to the sound of the yeast dispenser, I think something has broken. In 2500 there were no dispensers, we are used to it.

Guys, hello! Good morning. Here is a piece of bread on flour that showed vcherra (365 days from Lenta 1 grade)
This is Darnitsky 300 +175 Rye flour.


Haven't cut yet. I took it out at night. I'll show you the section later.
And I'll tell you the taste ...

And today I baked a French for the first time, my God, what a lovely thing, how I adore my Panasik-2512

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Luda, how much do you put baked goods on?
Yesterday I baked for the first time on a fast main one, I thought it would be raw, but no - it was baked well

[Waist]

And I'm happy with the European model, if I took ours, it would cost me more and there are fewer modes, I don't always have time for a manual oven. For yeast, the dispenser clicks (I thought it would be louder and scarier), but this is a signal to come up and look. It is also a plus for those who bake ready-made mixtures (and there are many of them), especially with a timer, yeast and salt do not come into contact, I think, this is what was done for this (there are many recipes with ready-made mixtures in the instructions for the European). I must try, somewhere I have a box of Borodinsky in case of a lack of desire to tinker with bread. And yet, if you take an old model, it was either already in operation or substandard or lay for a long time in unknown conditions. My Mrs. Sonya and Frau Sonya have different buckets, I think replacing it in the old model will be more expensive than in the new one. Everyone chooses what is more convenient for him and to his taste, and the money issue is not the last.



Waist, and dumplings on what mode to do? This is a minus, of course. That's why I looked at 2522, but it's expensive. I have, of course, a Boshevsky combine, but I don't like to knead steep dough there.

I don't really need a sound like it bangs,

You probably have not heard the shutter of the AKM assault rifle. The click is not loud and soft. And after the click of the AKM, how will it bang !!!

[Thalia, Natasha]

Thalia, Natasha, I don't have a yeast dispenser, 2511panasik, a dispenser for additives only, it knocks 2 times, not good on all programs. And my husband here liked the bread with dried pumpkin, he dried the pumpkin himself, he has to put a prog with a dispenser. every time I jump as it works for the first time, then again "jerks the shutter", and then also peaks, it would be better if only peaked

it would be better if only picking

gold words!

There is nothing perfect in our world.

In early panasiks, it seems, there are no dispensers for some models, for example, in 2500, according to the table at least so

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmilaand in 2510 no.

[Svetochka]

Svetochka, oh for sure! But there are a lot of 4 digital progs, I'm certainly not confused, but so much unnecessary

Only compote and jam are superfluous. Gluten-free, alas, some people need it. I have not tried the regime for spelled yet, you have to buy flour. I used to be with her on whole grain baked, I will compare. Personally, I don't need a cupcake, but I don't have an oven at my dacha, it might come in handy.

I say to myself, I have a lot of unnecessary things ... ideally, of course, some kind of "multi-baker" mode, I also programmed the bakes, although I was fantasizing about something

[Natasha]

Thalia, and what kind of dumplings should you use? This is a minus, of course. That's why I looked at 2522, but it's expensive.

Natasha, I knead the unleavened dough on the "Basic Fast" program with the lid open so as not to overheat. But look carefully, the dough should not be too tight, HP is not intended for this.You can entrust HP with the most "dirty-sticky" kneading process, and then knead it on the table to the desired one. I made cheburek dough like this a couple of times.
Yesterday it dawned on me that in European 2522 there is now a program for unleavened dough. But yes, it's expensive.
Buttercup, yes, in 2500 and 2510 weeks of dispensers in general. But this is an automatic HP, so that you put it in - you pulled it out.
Each model is specific and everything is needed.
Do not forget that the manufacturer is trying to make the device universal for a wide range of consumers, with different programs, different functions ... With all your efforts, you will never please everyone.
There are models to choose from: if you don't want dispensers - please, you want to put it in - take it out - please

[Natasha]

Natasha, yes, I understand everything, it is especially difficult to please me, with my requests, but you can dream
Yeah, we already talked about Japanese, she makes small bread, but it's very difficult, no instructions in Russian, plugs and sockets and the voltage in our network seem to be different. Come on, I'm like that - I was drowning and that's it, I still like my 2511.
Natasha What are you doing to me, you can’t watch this, I’m now ... I don’t know what to do now, what nyashechki



Only 200 euros "and our golden key"

Natasha what are you doing

Well I wanted to calm you down.

I removed it. Yet Zo is another HP.

[Natasha]

Natasha, yeah, she reassured, it looks like it was adapted for Europe, everything is in English, which means that it will suit us in terms of voltage, well, such a nyashechka, there is a bucket, well, just a toy ... just a dream ... well, maybe later .. for the city. . to dream such a Well, in the sense I will whine to my peasants and it will be easier for their mother to give nyashechka ... Here Vit knows, I can

Aaaa I didn't see nyasheyaka

[Natasha]

And I've already closed the window Natasha, and you put it under the spoiler ... huh?

Girls, does it make sense? You have to look through all the information, voltage, location, functionality, prices, instructions ...

About Zo (zojirushi) you need to look for reviews on the internet, so this HP is a little different.
In general, admire it, but keep in mind that most of those HP are sold either in Japan or America. In Europe, if there is, the choice is much less common. For some reason, so.

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Natasha, yeah, she reassured her, it looks like she was adapted for Europe, everything is in English, which means it will suit us in terms of voltage,

In America, too, English, but what is the tension there? Here in America they officially sell Zo products, even on the Japanese website it is indicated.

I want to

About Zo on our forum,
Bread Maker Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20
some more
Bread Maker Zojirushi Virtuoso BB-PAC20

Oh, how great Thank you, Alexander! I went and read it, it's interesting.

Well, now there is something specific. Think who needs or wants Surely mini Zo with the same functions as the big ones, that is, the programming is the same.

I say to myself, I have a lot of unnecessary things ...

And about me

Superfluous only compote and jam

+100.
I definitely will not cook compote and jam in HP. If you have 6 multicooker and a gas stove ... And also a blender-soup cooker with a compote and smoothie program ...

And even though there were no devices ~ to cook in HP for me somehow ...

I tried to cook jam. Once. Tasty, but not enough. Better in a basin on the stove.

[Zojirushi BB-SSC10]

Well, will I sit still

Zojirushi BB-SSC10 - this is a mini in our opinion, half a roll (450 gr) of our usual from Panasonic 25 **.

Programs:
White
European
White fast
Wholegrain
Whole grain fast
Multigrain
Gluten free
Without salt
Sugarless
Vegan
Pizza
Noodles
Cupcake / biscuit
Jam
Programmable (3 own options with the ability to save).

There is a dispenser of additives, clings to the lid - it is removed.
The timer is 24 hours in total, so maybe the programming is the same as described by Natasha Chuchelka for her big Zo.
But this model now costs $ 314.95 on Amazon (on the go, without looking for cheaper). Those that are cheaper, with simpler functions and WITHOUT the ability to program at your own discretion. Designed for 120 watts... There is an instruction in English.

Zovirusha

the famous Luda has.Not all models are programmable there. Those with two stirrers and large ones are programmable, the one that is mini is automatic without programming.
Nothing special in comparison with Panasonic does not represent itself.
And the big ZO is very big. And in it automatic programs are not ice, worse than Panasik's ones, but programming is a cool function, but not everything is regulated there. This I mean that it is not ideal for rye there either.
BUT this stove is not at all the squeak. And the very squeak, I didn't even read the instructions from her, it's like a programmable last Breliv. There is such a thick volume of instructions, like War and Peace
Everything is regulated and adjusted there and baking temperatures above panasik can be obtained. Well, how it is in terms of quality when used in the tail and in the mane, you need to look at the bourgeois forums.
In general, if I drive Zovirus every day, like we do Panasik, I also wonder what will become of her.

[SSC]

that mini is automatic without programming.

Lena, I gave the parameters of the mini model (SSC10), which is programmable and therefore expensive. It appeared on Amazon only in April this year. as a new mini model with dietary regimes and the ability to program. (for example, you can set 2 mixes for 15 minutes each, set the proofing up to 6 hours, and baking up to 1 hour 10 minutes. The temperature is not set.)
And here HAC10 is very simple, automatic, without the ability to program, and costs almost 2 times less.

as I see the programming is bitten,

that is, you cannot adjust the temperature of fermentation and baking - I immediately lose interest.
Because rye bread requires very high baked goods. Panasik has 160 of it cool. Many stoves sit at 140-150, but even higher.

And fermentation at temperatures of only 28 (and that is rare !!) - 33 degrees (mostly) severely limits. Then we love doing pre-mixing so much. I’m looking to see if it can be programmed for at least forty minutes - it’s also not always possible. I didn’t like Zovirus precisely for these parameters. If we are to envy, then a more flexible model.
In my eyes, Panasonic is better than any type of call.

By the way, somewhere over the hill, Panasonic also has a small loaf portable on a small loaf. True, it seems like without programming.

Panasonic has a small little one portable on a tiny little loaf

Is it something new or have we already talked about it?
In Japan, mini ovens are KhPki for standard Japanese bread, and we are sold KhPki for bread in 1.5-2 standard loaves. So here are their standard, mini for us, can you talk about them?

someone here showed exactly 500 g-panasyu loaf. Is it Japanese size?

Lena-funik, please sort out the baked goods with the addition of honey. I discovered by chance that when heated over 70 degrees, the sugar in honey turns into ... right now, I'll get together to pronounce ... into hydroxymethylfurfural. Fuuuh ... not that hard. So this hydra destroys the nervous system and can even lead to paralysis

[Vital]

Vital, heating honey... There is also about the terrible substance.

Is it Japanese size?

What is MINI for us, the Japanese write everywhere: HP for 1-well loaf.
What is NORM (our HP) for us, the Japanese write: HP for 1.5-2 loaves.

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[Wit]

I discovered by chance that when heated above 70 degrees, sugar A in honey turns into ... right now I'll get together to pronounce ... into hydroxymethylfurfural

Wit, do not believe the horror stories, this hydroxymethylfurfural is obtained only by sublimation, and not by baking - the processes are different. As a beekeeper, I tell you this. By the way, for the same reason, you cannot distill black currants from it, the same thing turns out, and in pies we crack it like

Thank you!

Good people, spetsyyyy ... is there anyone here? Tell me very urgently you need to find out how much cocoa powder you can add to the cake just to give it color, and at the same time so that the cake does not smell like cocoa afterwards? Just for painting

[Dark steppe eagle]

Dark steppe eagle, try a tablespoon, even less. You can also have coffee, a less pronounced aroma, or you can eat a barley drink.



But here's a 100 percent guarantee on taste from a spoonful of cocoa I will not say

[Natasha]

Natasha, Thank you so much

[WLAD]

WLAD, to slightly enhance the color, the initial mixing of cocoa with butter, and then with everything else will help.

Vlad, no, a tablespoon, a lot, the taste of cocoa will be present, no more than 1 tsp. and to fight off the smell instead of baking powder, use soda, something like this

[Natalia]

Natalia, Ludmila, Thank you very much The cupcake is already baked, poppy and without cocoa, I thought I had it, but it turned out that I didn’t ... So next time I will bake it with cocoa
It's like If you are going to cook dumplings, then before you put water on the stove - make sure you have dumplings in the freezer

Now I have a new problem (it’s not for nothing that they say that a bad head doesn’t give rest to my hands) I decided to bake rye bread and, because of my scattering, I poured water instead of a bucket directly into the bread maker
It seems that I poured out all the water, wiped it off, wait, I'll dry it with a hairdryer, while my wife is not at home and she does not see for what purpose I use her hairdryer

[WLAD]

I poured water instead of a bucket directly into the bread maker

WLAD, it would be nice to fall asleep with rice at night and leave ... otherwise the hairdryer is certainly good, but you never know what

because of his scattering, he poured water instead of a bucket directly into the bread maker

Now you need to dry very well. Hopefully a little poured?

Girls, poured what they say from the heart, everything that was in the glass, he took a hundred grams from it to pour the malt, well, two hundred grams poured into the stove
and my brains probably rested with me at that time
Thank you, I'm still working with a hairdryer, I'll try the option with rice at night, the main thing is then not to forget to shake it out of there,

[WLAD]

WLAD, if immediately poured, then in theory it is not scary.

[Galina]

Galina, Well, not quite right away ... the water managed to stay there for a couple of minutes until I realized what was pulled out of the socket and poured it



I decided to show off a cupcake that I baked during the day ...

Now I have a new problem (it’s not for nothing that they say that a bad head doesn’t give rest to my hands) I decided to bake rye bread and, because of my scattering, I poured water instead of a bucket directly into the bread maker
It seems that I poured out all the water, wiped it off, wait, I'll dry it with a hairdryer, while my wife is not at home and she does not see for what purpose I use her hairdryer

I always take the bucket out of the bread machine, close the lid and then start pouring and pouring. She also poured water once