Mandraik Ludmila
Waist, yes, this is the recipe, very good bread, I did the same with cheese, it really smells like pizza, especially if the cheese is parmesan




Quote: Waist
I took out a link in the first message of the topic, at the very end, under the spoiler "Video".
Natasha, thank you dear
M @ rtochka
Natalia, thanks, I'll try too. For some reason, I always bypassed such recipes)
Girls, only my bucket is not as clean as in the video? and the HP cover from the inside)
Mandraik Ludmila
Daria, so they are not perfect for me, we often bake, and on the video there can be a brand new HP
Waist
Yes, girls, on the video - NEW HP. So don't even think about cleanliness and don't be complex.

In fact, this is a video advertisement of the device, by a culinary specialist (as I understood it), who also prepares according to the recipes attached to the device. So the girl in the video may have more than one such HP, but several.This already suggests that there is no need to equal her for the cleanliness of the bread machine.

Thank you, you can extract something useful from the video for your case.

And you need to remember that there are people for whom it is important to see for completeness of perception and understanding. We are all different.

Who benefits from the video - that's good! Thanks to the author and his / her team!
fffuntic
Quote: Waist

Probably talking about this video
Sorry, it's in English
there it is clear, but to enable Russian subtitles:
go to YouTube,
click on the settings - gadget and there we turn on subtitles and select English, then click on Translate and select Russian.
Watching with Russian subtitles

mamusi
Girls, take a look at the recipe.
I baked for a long time. And the other day I repeated it twice. Very tasty for me.
I'll post my photos later. Already cut, she realized late.
But I will repeat.
My report (without photos yet) is here:
Panasonic 2502 Darnitskiy bread # 52

And here is my last year's report with a photo, I found ...
Panasonic 2502 Darnitskiy bread # 4
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Panasonic 2502 Darnitsky bread
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Quote: Waist
I took out a link in the first message of the topic, at the very end, under the spoiler "Video".
Thank you, Natashik, dear!
Mandraik Ludmila
Pretty, I want to make it like that, I want to use a wheat mixture of the first grade and Ts. Z. Ritochka, thanks!
Waist
But this one interested me, I want to try baking in HP

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Black khlibets (khlibets, loaf)
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mamusi
Waist, Natasha, Lyudochka should try to bake it ~ she has fine bread And she told us.
Otherwise, I can't get to Westphalian, no way ...
Natasha, are you baking rye? There's crumb in the rye bread recipe ...
Waist
We have an innovation on our forum - a simplification: to insert a link to a recipe with a photo and the author's name, you just need to click on the recipe leaf icon in the upper right corner of the recipe message, the first of 3 buttons. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN !!! But you can click Insert "anywhere" and the link will be inserted in a compact informative form. Here is an example:

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Panasonic 2502 Darnitsky bread
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Rita, I don't bake rye, no one in my family likes it. I want to buy in the store and try to bake like that.

I bake and eat mixed breads myself. My daughter sometimes eats, but no one in our family has love for pure rye
mamusi
Here, Natasha, buy, bake, tell me right away!)))

I do not buy in stores, at all (and I do not go to bakeries, I trust her, as it were)))
Mandraik Ludmila
So what kind of oven I liked now, both half-rye, although for the second one must first bake pure rye Ritochka, then I will bake rye first, it is fast, in comparison with all the others, and then "Black Chlibets"
mamusi
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
Ritochka, then I'll bake rye first, it's fast compared to all the others, and then "Black Chlibets"
Yes!!!!




Quote: Waist
I bake and eat mixed breads myself. My daughter sometimes eats, but there is no love for pure rye
And my Daughter, when I send a photo of my bread to her, sees it, wants it. Precisely black, poor fellow. Requests. Mom, I want yours with sourness! Eh! I would rush to her with a loaf under my arm ...
M @ rtochka
Quote: Irinkanur
I found the recipe on some of the YouTube channels, wrote it down and made it. There were doubts, but we really liked the bread
This bread sunk into my soul, baked it yesterday. I liked it. The roof sagged slightly. And it was as if something was missing in my taste. I think I will bake it again, I will finish it. Bribed that without dancing bakes, on the machine.
today it was delicious with chocolate butter
Irinkanur
Quote: M @ rtochka

today it was delicious with chocolate butter
You are a gourmet
mamusi
Girls, boys, who baked on such flour, give me a personally verified recipe for bread, eh?
Or go to the "library"? ..

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Wit
Didn't come across. But I would take it for a test without even going to the library. We are waiting for the report.
Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, I have such a lull, I thought I had Divenka, but it turned out to be Granets. Made in half with wheat
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
Before leaving, I baked bread with 50% spelled flour and 50% first grade wheat, baked it on a dietary mode, the bread turned out to be low, but with a round roof, grayish, delicious, I didn't have time to take a picture ... They took it with us and there it quickly ended, there still, there are more eaters, and my friend's husband eats bread well, with every meal, not like we ...

I did as we usually do with whey (270ml), salt and honey to taste, yeast 1 hour. l., butter as in the recipe for pure spelled 5g. I copied the recipe from him.
caprice23
Good day to all! So I became the happy owner of Sony 2510. Take me to your ranks! Now the first bread Dairy is being baked, it will be ready for the arrival of my husband from work.
For a very long time I doubted whether I needed hp or not. Even from a friend she took to play with Energy's simple old bread maker. Played for a week, what bread did not bake everything worked out. The husband said that the comparison is complete nonsense. Well, I decided that we also need to get hp. I studied the entire forum up and down and stopped at Panasonic. My husband bought, but I absolutely did not understand my choice. She says that the ugly, not stylish, Redmonds, like, look what handsome men, and you chose some kind of pig with legs. I was even upset, well, the truth is not a beauty. You can't put it in the red corner. But I hope that in terms of reliability and quality of baking it will surpass this notorious Redmond.




As a beginner, I still don't quite understand everything. I learned the rules of the kolobok, I kind of read the basics. I would like to ask about flour. What is the difference between the wheat bakery of the highest, first and second grade? Interested in how the use of each type of flour affects the taste of bread.
mamusi
Quote: Wit
We are waiting for the report.

Yes, sir!
(I will try, i.e.)

Buttercup, Lyudochka, thanks, I'll read the recipe, I'll do it. I will put it in the evening, most likely. After work!
$ vetLana
caprice23, Natasha, congratulations on Panasik! Welcome to our ranks
I disagree with a piglet on legs
mamusi
Quote: caprice23
Now the first bread Dairy is being baked
Show the photo later! And welcome to our ranks ...
Everything will gradually clear up, you'll see!))) Good luck!
caprice23
mamusi, $ vetLana, Thank you! I will post the photo, I hope I can insert it. True, I'm worried if I can get some bread. As it is, I'm not very happy with the kolobok. In a friend's bread maker, the bun turned out prettier, maybe I'm just worried
Another question. Here, according to the instructions, you must first lay dry ingredients then liquid, in that HP it was the other way around. Can the bookmark order affect the formation of the kolobok? And how do you lay the ingredients? Since in the instructions, or is it on the contrary, first water, and then flour?




Eh, for some reason I can't add my bread maker to the profile. 2510 no
mamusi
Don't scold the cookie ~ that's a bad message!)
The best Panasonic stove! No comparison to Redmond. It's funny!
Where does style come from?
The main thing is brains and quality of work! Eh!
caprice23
Quote: mamusi

Don't scold the cookie ~ that's a bad message!)
The best Panasonic stove! No comparison to Redmond. It's funny!
Where does style come from?
The main thing is brains and quality of work! Eh!
Yes, I agree! This is the husband who brings confusion
I like it, even very much!
$ vetLana
Quote: caprice23
Here, according to the instructions, you must first lay dry ingredients, then liquid
So lay it down.
Quote: caprice23
I like it, even very much!
(y) Correct




Quote: caprice23
Eh, for some reason I can't add my bread maker to the profile. 2510 no
Definitely not . You can ask the Chief to add (there is such a Temka)
Mandraik Ludmila
caprice23, I had a Redmond before Panasik, beautiful and stylish, but I didn't bake the bread normally, now I don't know where to put the Radish, it's a pity to throw it away, it's a worker, and it's awkward to sell or give away
I'm not overjoyed with my Panasik 2511, my mother bought Panasik, the same 2511, on Avita, she is already baking the second bread, she baked the first one under my personal control, and yesterday Mommy laid everything down herself, but I was in touch by phone just in case
$ vetLana
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Mom bought Panasik the same 2511, on Avita, she is already baking the second bread
Luda, congratulations
Who are you going to bake now?
We still need to "bake" Galya Panasik
caprice23
Mandraik Ludmila, thanks for the support! I will show your message to my husband, no matter what I grumble). It's just that Sonya doesn't really fit into the general style of our kitchen, so he picks on. But I resisted and decided that the quality of baking and reliability are more important than beauty
Here I will feed him today with delicious bread (if only it worked out), he will grow up and you will forgive Sonya her not very stylish, in his opinion, look
Mandraik Ludmila
Svetochka, in winter, parents do not go to the dacha, so they still would not be able to bake bread regularly, otherwise they will have at least delicious bread. Mom will now bake regularly, she and dad are bread showers. I also told her Natasha's recipe for cottage cheese cake, she was already interested, "the appetite comes with eating"
Yes, Galya, I would very much like to be registered as Panasonic owners, but this does not depend on us
Swetie
Quote: caprice23
and you chose some kind of pig with legs
Here is a tin plate Well, your husband's fantasies In general, it does not resemble a pig
Quote: caprice23
What is the difference between the wheat bakery of the highest, first and second grade?
Classification and grade of Russian and imported flour, their interchangeability
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: caprice23
Interested in how the use of each type of flour affects the taste of bread.
caprice23, the grade of flour affects the taste quite strongly. For example, I like to bake wheat bread on 1st grade flour, with the addition of second grade or whole grain, it seems to me much tastier. But it is better to bake such bread on dietary regimes, since the rise of bread will not be as fast and high as on premium flour.
This is our main fffuntic about these "plates", she can explain everything about the specifics of baking from flours of different kinds. I bake like that, on a "whim", as I feel and bake, I try to adhere to the recipe, of course, but as a rule I bake gag, mix different sorts of flour, as God puts Panasik on my soul, such a wonderful stove that everything turns out nicely
caprice23
Mandraik Ludmila, swetie, thanks, in the head at the beginning such a confusion. I will put everything on the shelves. In the store I looked at all kinds of flour, my eyes fled. But with a heroic effort of will she suppressed the desire to buy everything at once. I took a modest MacFoo premium bakery (in principle, as usual, I take it) and stomped home. While on it I will experiment. By the way, it seemed to me for the umpteenth time lately (in the oven baked) it seemed very wet, it takes less water than in the recipes, and so much less.





And which recipe would recommend trying with the addition of flour of 1 or 2 grades? Or is it better with the addition of rye?
On the previous bread maker, I managed to bake French, milk, onion. All on Macfa. All delicious, turned out well. Now I want to try bread from different types of flour.
Swetie
Quote: caprice23
And which recipe would recommend trying with the addition of flour of 1 or 2 grades? Or is it better with the addition of rye?
I personally don’t bake bread at all on the highest grade, only on the first one. I can "buy" flour without even looking at the recipe.It's a matter of taste. Recipes wonderful on the site - a dime a dozen. You still have to look for yourself.
Mandraik Ludmila
caprice23, flour is such a complicated matter, who likes what ... I can say to myself: I buy Limakov flour for myself and my mother, it is on sale of the highest, first grade and rye. I love it very much, but Altai Divinka wholegrain, second grade and rye is not always on sale. I liked the pizza oven at Pudovskaya first grade "for pizza".
Gray bread can be baked both purely wheat and wheat-rye. My mom likes to bake "Bread from rye flour" on the 02 mode from the instructions (I am not satisfied with this name, there is 80g of rye flour, the other 320 is wheat of the highest grade). Mom and I replace the premium flour with the first one and increase the rye flour to 100g, respectively, reducing the wheat flour to 300g, pour less salt and sugar, this is for our taste, I generally bake it with whey, like many here, and use it in baking bread only honey.
In principle, after reading the recipes, you can understand the proportions, as a rule, it is 400 g of flour, 260 ml of water for 1 hour. l. yeast for small bread is not fast mode, the rest will come by itself over time.
Anchic
Quote: caprice23
By the way, she seemed to me for the umpteenth time lately (in the oven baked) seemed very wet, it takes less water than in the recipes, and so much less.

It's autumn, it's rainy time. Flour can pull moisture from the air depending on storage conditions. We have not turned on the heating yet - the flour was damp, it took less water. They gave heating and from the same package a couple of days later, more water was added to the dough. Although there was one recipe. So the batch depends on the season and storage conditions.

As for the grade - the lower the grade, the more useful the flour, because it contains more different layers of wheat grain. But the flour will behave differently in the dough. You can combine flour c. from. with flour 1c and 2c, with whole grain. There are only experiments regarding their personal taste preferences.
caprice23
Mandraik Ludmilawow how much information. Thank you. So I will experiment!)
Quote: swetie

I personally don’t bake bread at all on the highest grade, only on the first
It will be necessary to buy
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
I liked the pizza oven at Pudovskaya first grade "for pizza".
I also looked at her today. Eye caught)). I'll try, we love pizza)




Quote: Anchic
It's autumn, it's rainy time. Flour can pull moisture from the air depending on storage conditions. We have not yet turned on the heating - the flour was damp, it took less water
I have it near the battery in the cabinet under the oven, it is very warm there, strange that it is wet.
Quote: Anchic
There are only experiments regarding their personal taste preferences.
Ready to experiment! If only my family would like the results of my experiments




Quote: caprice23

I have it near the radiator in a cabinet under the oven, it is very warm there, strange that it is wet.
And, I realized, I have it in a plastic container closed very tightly. Therefore, it does not dry out, even though it is warm)
$ vetLana
Mandraik Ludmila, Luda, Pudov has such flour: 1st grade for pizza? Which store does it sell?
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: caprice23
I'll try, we love pizza)
We in the family like the very first "Pizza" recipe from the instructions, I bake it almost every week, in a princess.
Svetochka, you'll laugh, is sold in the top five, at a very affordable price of about 35 rubles per kilogram package. Previously, they wrote simply: first grade, flour for pizza, now they write a special "Italian" grind, oh don't laugh - "the same eggs - side view"
caprice23
We are also in the top five. Only now the share price is 36. And so the allegedly 79 rubles. worth




Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
We in the family like the very first recipe "Pizza" from the instructions, I bake almost every week, in the princess
I'll have some pizza for the weekend. No princess, unfortunately, I'll be in the oven
Mandraik Ludmila
And in ozone it has risen in price - 64 rubles now costs It will end, and if it is as expensive, I will bake on Limakovskaya first grade

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Wit
Quote: caprice23
Photos cannot be inserted. Why can't I upload to the gallery?
Quote: caprice23
Poke me, pliz, how to upload and insert photos. And then you want to show your first bread to understanding people and listen to recommendations, but it does not work
It's too early for you to upload photos. You need to write a certain number of messages, they will give a second loaf under your nickname. Then you can upload pictures right here in messages. I recommend this downloader. Never let you down

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caprice23
Wit, Thank you so much! And then I suffer, I suffer, but nothing comes of it
I will wait for the second loaf
Swetie
Quote: caprice23
I will wait for the second loaf
You don't have to wait) You have "my gallery" in your profile at the top of the page, upload a photo there, copy the link and paste it into the message)
Recipes !!! Now the design is new! # 321
caprice23
I could not stand it under the pressure of the younger one, cut off a piece of pink for him and ate it herself. The deliciousness is indescribable !! I'm happy, no words!
Last week I baked according to the same recipe in old Energy, well, he didn't lie next to it. The difference is really felt! There the roof is paler, the crust is very thick and not so lush.
Wit
Quote: swetie
... there is "my gallery"
And I (and not only me) do not go to galleries. Show me a photo here and I will appreciate it and give advice. And I have no time to rush through the links. My gallery is generally empty and it always will be. Whoever wants it and how it is convenient for whom.
caprice23, Show your first-born bread here, please

Quote: caprice23
The deliciousness is indescribable !!
Who would have doubted Congratulations, Natasha! May there always be such bread!
caprice23
Quote: swetie

You don't have to wait) You have "my gallery" in your profile at the top of the page, upload a photo there, copy the link and paste it into the message)
Recipes !!! Now the design is new! # 321
That is why it just does not work out to the gallery. True, I'm trying from the phone, maybe because of this. I'll try again)




Quote: Wit
Who would have doubted Congratulations, Natasha! May there always be such bread!
Thank you!
Really delicious! My husband tried it, said that he agreed, let there be a pig with legs, if only he always ate such delicious bread




I'm wondering why the slide turned out? On one side, the loaf is higher.
$ vetLana
Waist, Natasha, then remove my post
Friends, we will help Olya to have a water supply system installed in their village. Need to vote in this thread

Vote # 8830
It will take a couple of minutes.
Wit
I've already helped. Get ready for code glitches. Just update, re-insert the mail and when you receive the code, insert the code. I went through the third time. It's fast.
caprice23
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Hurrah!!! Happened.
The loaf took about 350 g of flour. Maybe a little more. Baby.

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