firuza83
LudMila, Thank you )
No, this is a "wet meringue" cream, about which I say what I need ... it is not dried in the oven .. it is a cream for decorating cakes and pastries)
And ordinary bezeshki without induction can be)), yes, they can be dried in the oven at 90 degrees for 1.5-2 hours))
It turns out that there is no program for making exactly CREAM ... (wet meringue) .. but you can try to make Italian, although I myself have already got used to making it by hand)) and the process is not entirely clear yet, there is water and proteins .. how to add them , alternately? But how?! The whites should be whipped until soft peaks .. and the syrup at this time should already be more than 100 g .. until I can imagine how it all happens "by the car", in one machine (bowl) at the same time ...)
LudMila
firuza83, the Italian meringue program is a cream, a normal protein custard, but it is quite possible to dry it like a meringue. Do it for interest.)))
I'm not a pastry chef, in my opinion different meringues are whipped proteins according to different technologies, but leave it like this and use it in the form of a cream or bake and dry it, it's at the discretion of the one who cooks.
firuza83
Quote: LudMila

firuza83, the Italian meringue program is a cream, a normal protein custard, but it is quite possible to dry it like a meringue. Do it for interest.)))
I'm not a pastry chef, in my opinion different meringues are whipped proteins according to different technologies, but leave it like this and use it in the form of a cream or bake and dry it, it's at the discretion of the one who cooks.
Lyudmila, I get it! Italian meringue is a completely different cream, protein, in which the proteins are pasteurized by adding hot syrup. I'm interested in exactly the cream Wet meringue, this is a slightly different kind of protein cream .. in the sense there proteins are pasteurized in a different way.
I constantly cook Italian meringue (protein custard), dried it only once, it takes a little longer, the process takes time, since the cream contains water .. and in structure they are very dense for bezeshki .. since only sugar is included in the recipe for GOST meringue and protein ..
I was interested in what program all the same the Star prepares cream for decoration)
Asya K
Good afternoon, tell me if the handles on the 970 dough roll are needed?
An updated kach 980 nozzle has come out, this handle is not there
Nata-li
Good evening, dear forum users!
I have been on the site for a long time. And I've been dreaming about a combine for a long time. Yes, it is a crisis, then other problems ... Now there is an opportunity to fulfill your dream, but it is very difficult to make a choice, especially when there is nothing to compare with. I made one thing for myself: if you buy a harvester, then the best one. I want Kenwood with induction. I honestly tried to master the forum as much as possible. As a result, I didn't understand something, but got confused in something.
Please, if possible, tell me the answers to some questions !!!
1) You need to buy on the site There are only 3 models. If I understood correctly, 096 is earlier (and it has a different nest), and the other 2 are newer. And these 2 differ in the package.
2) I read on the forum that combines without induction have 1 more speed - delicate, which is not in induction. Is it so? And how much is it needed?
3) I did not find any information about the illumination of the bowl. Isn't she?
4) Is the head lifting lever on the back or in the front? And where is it more convenient?
5) 096 has a display that constantly shows t or time, and at 0960 you need to press a button.
Well, this quote from Miranda made me think
That's when they make the next machine with the ability to program, how in multicooker you can set multi-stage options with different times / temperatures for each stage, with a signal when something to add from the products, then there will be a complete bomb!
And how often is the lineup updated and is it worth waiting for a new product in the near future?
Olga VB
Nata-li,
1).
2). All models have many different speeds, including those with pauses.
3).
4). Matter of habit. 096 on the side. I'm comfortable.
5). Unpredictable, but I would not wait for the next six months.

Good luck!
Miranda
Nata-li, on my own I will add.

1) the inductions on the bundle and the name have the same logic

previous model: 094 without blender and processor, 096 with them.
new model: 9040 - without blender and processor, 9060 - with them.

3) induction without illumination, probably so that the steam does not spoil the bulbs

4) both have lateral induction.
Convenience from habit and still worth it.

5) yes, for the new one, to see the time / temperature, you need to press the button. Moreover, as it turned out, the direct counting of time in processes without induction is not included. Only the reverse is turned on if you set it. But I am writing this from the words of the members of the forum.

About the new model - not that half a year, but I would not wait for the next couple of years. Only if Kenwood decides that something has not been completed in this version and will quickly release the next one, with minimal modifications, such as a time board.

So the 70th, 80th and 90th episodes came out often, about once every one and a half to two years. But in them the machine itself did not change, but the attachments and configurations changed.

In the 70th there was an iron blender, another flexi and a different processor, this was all replaced in the 80th series - the blender became glass and heat-resistant, flexi changed, the processor became better. And in the 90th series there were even fewer changes - the knife was replaced in the blender and a stirring stick was added, while the blender glass itself did not change. About flexi and blender in pictures is in the Reference.

And the new induction means the machine itself is changed. The planetary mixer attachment has changed and a nest for it has appeared. The hook has changed. The low speed socket has changed.
Air
Personally, I really miss in Kenwood the WEIGHTS built into the body of the combine. So that you can add ingredients to the bowl, and immediately see how many grams you are putting. Because in most cases, when products need to be added gradually, you have to take some kind of intermediate container in order to first weigh the product, and then just add it to the bowl (for example, flour after beating eggs).
I wonder if they will make such a function in the near future or is it unrealistic?
Miranda
Air, well, the latter has scales in Boch.
But I'm afraid that the scales, which are implemented in Boch UNDER the bowl, will be poorly combined with induction, which is also UNDER the bowl. This means that the balance will heat up. So if it does, it will be in models without induction. Such an opinion.
Helen
Quote: Miranda
This means that the balance will heat up. So if it does, it will be in models without induction. Such an opinion.
but what about in Thermomix ...!? weighs and warms ... and everything below ...
anna_k
Helen, thermomix is ​​not inductive
Helen
Quote: anna_k

Helen, thermomix is ​​not inductive
Got it ....
Anchic
Air, and what prevents you from putting the bowl on the scales and immediately adding food to it?
Yutan
I put the bowl on the scale, weigh it. When necessary, I reset the result. The scales are excellent, weighing up to 8 kg. Before sifting flour, I put the bowl with a wiping sieve. I pour flour right on it. Then I put the bowl in its rightful place and turn on the car. Everything is very comfortable. If the recipe is complicated, then I put the second bowl on the scales and weigh the other ingredients.
Girls, I have a question about the bronze attachments for the AT910 paste. How many of these tips would you like to have? Painfully they are expensive with us. She looked at the computer. It's cheaper there. I put it in the basket, so it was considered with delivery almost twice as expensive as ours. So the toad strangles, and how I want a nozzle for Fusilli and for seashells.
Miranda
Colleagues, I understand that I will embarrass the New Year's mood, but from the series I cannot remain silent!

I'm going to Globus tomorrow for NG-purchase and went to see the promotions / discounts on the site in order to adjust the shopping list, and there are all kinds of things from De'Longhi, Kenwood and Braun with a 50-60% discount for chips for more than a month!

From Kenwood - from cars, as always, Sense, and 5 attachments at an excellent price - a multi-chopper, a blender, a meat grinder, a dough sheeter and a noodle cutter. Promotion until March 6.

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Tomorrow I'll see what kind of availability and in general.
anna_k
Miranda, Thank you! A very cool offer!
Well, everything seems to be there, but it's still interesting to look))
Prank
Quote: Miranda
From Kenwood - from cars, as always, Sense, and 5 attachments at a great price - a multi-chopper, a blender, a meat grinder, a dough sheeter and a noodle cutter. Promotion until March 6.

Miranda, where do they get the chips? I really want a multi-shredder at this price, it will fit my future new 9060 cache ...
Girls, I will order myself a Wishlist on the computerverse, does someone want to join me? Joint purchase on computeruniverse (JV, Russia) # 584
Nata-li
Many thanks to all who answered !!!
I still want 9060. But, as I understand it, you can officially buy them only in one place and there are no discounts there ... I'll go and think a little more and read about the attachments in more detail.
Ketsal
Prank, I am to you
Miranda
Quote: Prank
Miranda, where do they get the chips? I really want a multi-shredder at this price, it will fit my future new 9060 cache ...

Multi-chopper for all machines, except for certain series of Kmiks type

Chips are given for purchases, or rather for every 400 rubles. in the check. The rules are written there. So tomorrow I will go, buy 4 thousand products and other things (washing powder, for example, or pots), they will give me 10 chips. And for the attachments - 5 chips for a discount. That is, I can do two nozzles (this is not an offer, this is theoretically, tomorrow I'm afraid I have a lot of purchases, all are NG). You can also ask people who don't need chips. But I never asked that, but I gave it to those who asked.

Quote: Nata-li
they can only be bought in one place and there are no discounts there

This price is already a discount.
Prior to that, 72 thousand. And look at the prices in other countries - you will be very surprised.
Nata-li
Miranda, thanks! Didn't know it was a discounted price.
I saw prices in Europe. Some time ago, Kolich wrote how he bought Kesha profitably in Europe. It was more expensive then. I left this topic for a while. And then I look - the price is 50 ... +
I didn't even think it was a discount. I thought that our prices fell.
And what do you think, after NG, prices will rise again, right?
Miranda
Quote: Nata-li
And what do you think, after NG, prices will rise again, right?

Hard to tell.
If you ask at Kenwood, they will say it will grow up to push you to buy. But it may not grow.
svstasya
Quote: Prank
Where do the chips come from?
chips for purchases give ... 1 chip for 400r in the check
kenwood sense kvc5100g in Globus (Pushkino) for 18999 rubles + 15 chips
Yesterday I was in Globus (Pushkino), all the attachments are:
blender KAH358GL (2199r + 5 chips),
meat grinder KAX950 (3099r + 5 chips),
chopper AT320 (1699r + 5 chips),
dough sheeter KAX980ME (3099r + 5 chips),
noodle cutter KAX981ME (3099r + 5 chips).

they say that the warranty is 2 years by check, but the website registers for a 5 year warranty.
LydiaVera
Girls, hello! Today, finally, my husband hung the stabilizer on Kenwood and connected it. Now I will continue testing. Before that, the combine worked for me only 2 times, I was afraid to turn it on with our wild tension. Maybe someone will come in handy. The choice fell on SVEN AVR PRO LCD 5000. Simply because it was available in the store. More options that Vlad_Ru advised me -
Quote: Vlad_Ru
RESANTA SPN-3600
and
Quote: Vlad_Ru
I can advise a good option, look for ups with a power of 2000-3000 with a dead battery on sale (they often sell) even from 1000-1500 and replace your own batteries with ordinary (there are 3-4 of them) automobile or motorcycle batteries.
The fact is that KM only in peaks consumes 1.5 kW, and the rest is no more than 800 watts.
I repeat once again that SVEN AVR PRO LCD 5000 was on sale in our store, so I didn't waste time looking for other options. I also bought a surge protector. The husband cut off the plug with a piece of wire, attached the plug to the terminals of the stabilizer and plugged it into the network. And to the other terminals - a piece of the remaining wire with sockets at the end. Now I am finally not afraid to turn on the car.




Quote: Miranda
I'm going to Globus tomorrow for NG-purchase and went to see the promotions / discounts on the site in order to adjust the shopping list, and there are all kinds of things from De'Longhi, Kenwood and Braun with a 50-60% discount for chips for more than a month!
Girls, I envy white envy.They do not send the goods by mail?))) (Joke)
Miranda
Quote: LydiaVera
They do not send the goods by mail?

They do not send, but good samaritans members of the forum can
Prank
Quote: Ketsal
Prank, I am to you
Write in a personal what you want, there will already be four of us.
Ketsal
OK
Tanya ***
Miranda, thank you very much for the info on the shares in Globus, there, in addition to the attachments, you can still buy something
Margitte
New video from youtube, comparing 096 and Gourmet.

VRad
Quote: LydiaVera
Today, finally, my husband hung the stabilizer on Kenwood and connected it.
Thanks for the information. I will follow your experience with its (stabilizer) use. I'll buy it closer to summer, I will need it in the village. While choosing.
True, I read that stubs with a power of up to 5000 can be connected through the plug. Probably, for powerful ones, it is important that phase and zero are connected to the corresponding contacts. But your husband probably knows what he's doing.

Miranda, thanks for the information about the Globe. Probably, after NG I will leave, a very attractive price for a chopper. While studying the catalog, I think to buy there for 2000.
Miranda
VRad, until March 6 is still far away, it is quite possible to have time

And for 2 thousand there is a lot of things, as in any supermarket. They have an excellent meat and fish range. Nice section with all sorts of baked goods - from flour to various additives. There is always dry malt. Lots of mastic. Durum at a good price. And the catalog changes all the time, you need to look before the trip.

LydiaVera
Quote: Miranda
They do not send, but the good Samaritans forumites can
True true? How can this be done? The multi-shredder is very beautiful there. I want to grind almonds on it. But this is probably already in the topic of attachments.
Olga VB
Quote: LydiaVera
I want to grind almonds on it.
if for almond flour, then there will be difficulties. There were discussions on the topic of nozzles.
LydiaVera
Quote: VRad
through the plug, you can connect stubs with a power of up to 5000. Probably, for powerful ones, it is important that phase and zero are connected to the appropriate contacts. But your husband probably knows what he's doing.
I do not know what to say. The husband is definitely not an electrician. But in electricity more or less understands, unlike me. He built my house himself and threw all the wiring everywhere. The idea of ​​cutting the networker was mine, maybe not the most brilliant. The husband, however, did not mind. I gave him an assignment now at work with electricians to discuss this matter.




Olga VB, yes, for flour. Thank you, now I'll go looking. And what then? Finished is expensive.
Oh, I remembered yet. I ate a big bald spot to the guys from Kenwood's sites with my questions, and so one of them recommended grinding almonds in a multi-grinder, and not in a mill.
By the way, good guys always communicate in a normal way and help. If, of course, you can get through.
Vlad_Ru
Quote: LydiaVera
The idea of ​​cutting the networker was mine, maybe not the most brilliant. The husband, however, did not mind. I gave him an assignment now at work with electricians to discuss this matter.
Honestly, it would be better to leave your own plug and just on the wall of the outlet, plus, additional good sockets for equipment (there will be enough power) and there will be no warranty claims.
VRad
Quote: LydiaVera
The idea of ​​cutting the networker was mine, maybe not the most brilliant.
I'm going to do this too, though I think I'll do with a less powerful stabilizer - 3000/3600. Electricians think that should be enough. Simply, I think that yours with a plug should be turned on in such a way that the plug of the plug, from which the wire goes to the phase terminal, is plugged into the hole in the outlet to which the phase wire is also connected. And don't touch this plug again. Or mark both the plug and the socket so that you know where the phase is, where is zero.
And the socket must be rated for the appropriate power. I know that 16A should be enough for 3000 volts. And at 5000 I don't know (
I also advise you to turn off the stabilizer when you are not using the machine. Doesn't it have an on / off button? Cheap stabilizers can throw anything out.
LydiaVera
Quote: Vlad_Ru
Honestly, it would be better to leave your own plug and just on the wall of the outlet, plus, additional good sockets for equipment (there will be enough power) and there will be no warranty claims.
Well, forgive me, stupid, I did not understand anything! I am not friends with electricity since school. In general, I'm telling you how it was.
This stabilizer had no plugs or sockets. He had terminals inside, so a gutted networker was connected to them. My husband just called, he tortured the electricians, and they said that the most important thing in this venture is not to warm up the socket on the wall, where we plugged the plug from the stabilizer. And if it gets warm, then you need to hang a more powerful socket.




Quote: VRad
yours with a plug must be turned on in such a way that the plug of the plug, from which the wire goes to the phase terminal, is plugged into the hole in the socket to which the phase wire is also connected. And don't touch this plug again. Or mark both the plug and the socket so that you know where the phase is, where is zero.
Again, I am exactly zero in this, not a phase. Therefore, my husband just stuck a fork in and told me not to touch it at all. And turn the stabilizer off and on with such a thing, it can knock out (I don't remember the name)
Miranda
I don't know about other Globes, but Novorizhskoye is full of everything.
This is where the mini shredders have gone

Kenwood Kitchen Machines



New dough rollers without a roller to support the dough.
It seems like I want it for such a price, but is it convenient without a roller, + I personally need an adapter - I'll think about it until March 6.

Kenwood Kitchen Machines



I understood that at least 5 chips would be given to me, trembled from the price

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Quote: LydiaVera
How can this be done?

Let's write down in private messages after NG madness.

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About almonds.
If you dry it, then it is possible in a mill and in a mini-grinder.

And you can also freeze it, then the multi-shredder that heats will not make it porridge.

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Quote: Margitte
New video from youtube, comparing 096 and Gourmet.

Thank you!
I'm going to look, judging by the stop-picture, there will also be a hook there.
Peter Push
Quote: Miranda
I'm going to look, judging by the stop-picture, there will also be a hook there.
Miranda, this new hook is not monumental, though without a nut, but otherwise "well, I have not tried it" (I am not to blame, he himself ...).

Dear forum users and guests of our forum! Happy New Year to you! I wish you health, happiness, fulfillment of all desires!
Miranda
Peter Push, yes, I did.
So I wanted about the hook, and again in words, and then theoretically.

But I have already decided. I don't want to change the car. Unless someone will give you Too much to buy - a hook, a stirrer, lids (so that with other bowls). Adapters to existing nozzles. Rebuild motor skills.

But, I don't want to change exactly.
But who buys the first - there is still no unequivocal opinion.
LydiaVera
Miranda, thanks, with pleasure! In order not to bother with buzzing, I will humbly wait for the letter!
OlgaBrolga
Hostesses, relying on their experience - what car would you recommend? I have a dilemma - I want a Chef Titanium XL 8300S with a 6.4L bowl. But the seller tells me it's better to take a smaller bowl - the 4.6L Chef Titanium KVC 7300S version. It seems like 6 thousand is a difference in price, but I buy for many years after all ... I don't want to be disappointed later that I will have to cook a small bowl in several passes.
I have a family of 4, 2 adults and 2 kids. I usually cook for a couple of days. I bake a little, but with children I think things will soon go differently. There have never been such units, I think I will hear something sensible here. Who has a bowl of 4.6 liters - is enough for you and how much do you cook?
Olga VB
OlgaBrolga, budget?
OlgaBrolga
Well, the budget allows you to buy for 56 thousand. with 4 nozzles as a gift (now a promotion). Or an option of 50 thousand. with 4 nozzles as a gift, but with a smaller bowl. For me, in this case, 6 thousand. will not play a role.
LydiaVera
Girls, but I bought 9060 because of induction. And I wanted first from the Kenwoods Chef Titanium KVL8300S XL. There the bowl is also large, and the power is 1700. And I needed a strong kneader. I still have vague doubts.
Olga VB
Quote: OlgaBrolga

Well, the budget allows ...
Then take a new induction.
You will now begin, of course, to ask a bunch of leading questions, to clarify details, but all the same, you will come to this very decision.
If you don't believe me, read the last 20-30 pages.
Good luck!
Quote: LydiaVera
I still have vague doubts.
You just haven't got a taste for it yet. Will soon pass
LydiaVera
Olga VB, Yes, probably. But I don't want Kitchen at all. But I almost bought it a month and a half ago. Now I would be very sorry.
Gingi
Girls, and someone bought Cooking Chef in installments (they promise 0%), are there any pitfalls? Or is it better a little later, but for your own?
OlgaBrolga
Quote: Olga VB

Then take a new induction.

Thanks for the answer. With induction there seem to be from 100 thousand? It's still not 6 thousand. surcharge, but 2 times - significantly ... Not so much the budget allows. My husband says repairs are more important now, but I need a car right tomorrow and that's it.

Quote: Olga VB
If you don't believe me, read the last 20-30 pages.
I have already reserved the attachments (the most expensive ones are a gift .. until tomorrow there is a reserve for me), I must take it straight or not. I'm afraid to even read about induction, I think it is more for culinary specialists.
The volume of the bowl is the main thing that torments me.
In general, I admit, I don’t spend a lot of time in the kitchen, I’m not a cook, I rarely cook delights ... I need such a machine, because I kind of hope that it will free me up time, which is always insanely small. And everyone is full and mom is free
Gingi
Quote: OlgaBrolga
With induction there seem to be from 100 thousand?
Induction starts from 52 thousand (new without additional attachments).

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The attachments do not have to be bought all at once, you can later. Many new ones are sold on Avito at a large discount, and even here girls sell cheaper. than in the store.

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