Marysya27
Nathalte, NatashaWhat model?
Nathalte
Marysya27, kvc5000t
Olga VB
Quote: Nathalte
what else to buy for it?
If nothing is urgent, just yesterday, it is not necessary, then do not rush.
the decisions themselves will come gradually.
at first it seems to many that a lot of baits are needed, but then appetites are muffled.
I already wrote before that, in addition to the standard prnocessor and blender that came with the kit, I wanted to immediately buy 12 attachments. Then I tempered to 8, then to 6. Now I use the 6th at different intervals, but I bought them gradually, when I realized their need. And in the beginning one meat grinder was enough for me. Until the rest, I matured long and thoughtfully. Which is what I wish for you.
Good luck!
Nathalte
Olga, and which ones did you stop at?
I walk and admire. Earlier I tried to buy everything cheaper, and now, gradually, I realized that expensive equipment, although expensive, is beautiful and serves many times more and more reliably.

And another question: what should be the cube attachment? Should a pusher, which then helps to clean the grate? I took it from the window, the last one, without a box. So I think: should I go to swear and demand or not?
Olga VB
NatashaMy attachments may turn out to be completely useless for you - you should choose according to your needs, moreover, when choosing, focus not on what you would do if you had this attachment, but on what you are doing anyway even without a nozzle, because then desires under the motto "what if" and often remain unfulfilled, and the attachments are lying around unused.

The cube should have a double pusher for food (like a processor) and a "toothpick" for the grid

Kenwood kitchen machines

Miranda
Started a new topic
KM Kenwood. Directory.

We discussed it back in the summer, but then one thing, then another, and now we got around to starting to gradually spread it. Initially, the idea was to collect articles on spare parts for attachments, but then the idea, as always, expanded. Let's see if we will be able to carry out all our plans.

You don't need to write anything in the help topic (did not figure out how to close for a while).

Hope to finish by New Year
If you have any wishes, suggestions for the reference book - welsh.
igel _el
Quote: Miranda

Started a new topic
KM Kenwood. Directory.
Looked in ...
Very clearly and logically ordered 👍
Titanic WORK! Thank you!
Natusichka
Miranda, thank you very much! Thank you for the work that you are doing and for the work that still remains to be done.
This is a very necessary and important topic!
elenas
Miranda, just titanic. Labor, but everything is so clearly described
Paul I
Quote: Miranda
Started a new topic
KM Kenwood. Directory.
Good business. Conceptual.
If you need hard-to-get specifics or what questions to the manufacturer, please contact. Let's try to figure it out.
Well, you can add there my disassembly of cars, of which somewhere two pieces hang out. The only thing is that the quality of the embedded pictures is limited. It would be nice to somehow remove the restriction, at least for such an important topic.
Twig
Miranda, dissertation
Showdown from Pavel add, yeah, there are many cognitive pictures.
Miranda
Thank you

The handbook was conceived as a guide to the names, compatibility and articles of parts. There will be no - what to choose, which is better, how to use. And there will be no discussion. For this, there are topics with discussions - attachments, machines, recipes. Links to them will be added to the first post of the guide.

As for the planetary nest and bowls, the longest-assembled section will be, since there are many options - a small bowl, a large bowl, and for each bowl there are also n-number of options for a rim, hook, etc.

I do not plan to disassemble the old attachments in detail.
For example, an old food processor or old blenders.I will just indicate the name in the retro section. There may be several, those that are still in use, I will disassemble into details, but in the last place, or if they catch my eye, so as not to get lost.
And so far I don’t know how kMix, Prospero and Multivan will fit into the nozzles, in which section.
The kMix, for example, has a meat grinder AX950, but visually it does not differ from the KAX950 - the same hexagon. But, perhaps, they differ, it will be necessary to find out.

So, first the most relevant and widespread, then gradually everything else. By the New Year, I hope, 90% will be ready, and 10% of the less common will also come up over time.
PS if someone thinks a post is important, then throw it in private messages.
Miranda
By the way, if someone knows how to draw (or whatever the designers call it), then my 5 icons stand out from the rest, because I didn't find it.

It is, of course, okay as it is, but if someone knows and knows how to redraw to be equally beautiful, it would be great.

IN planetary nest - a sieve, a soufflake, a double boiler and a new mixer with a hinge.
Peter Push
Miranda! Fundamental! Thank you! Strength and health to you!
madlab
Good day.
I am experiencing incredible pangs of choice, namely:
model 2015 Kenwood KVC5000T + 4 nozzles as a gift (we have for 40,000 rubles)
or
2016 model Kenwood KVC 5320S Küchenmaschine Chef Elite (not with us, but € 443.27 + shipping)
Thank you in advance.
Nathalte
madlab, I took the first option the other day. Convenient because it is fast, if anything, there is a guarantee. From nozzles, a cube, food, dough sheeter, spaghetti maker. There was an ice cream maker to choose from, several options for noodles, and a sort of grater. I wanted a mill or a meat grinder, but alas, they go separately. While mastering and enjoying. Considering that there are adapters and TDs, you can buy additional attachments, I do not regret my spontaneous decision at all.
Zhanik
Quote: madlab

Good day.
I am experiencing incredible pangs of choice, namely:
model 2015 Kenwood KVC5000T + 4 nozzles as a gift (we have for 40,000 rubles)
or
2016 model Kenwood KVC 5320S Küchenmaschine Chef Elite (not with us, but € 443.27 + shipping)
Thank you in advance.

Of course, the first option is better, I think.
The attachments are a nice bonus. Taking into account the delivery, you will not get the second option for free either, but the bald one?
Peter Push
Quote: madlab
Kenwood KVC5000T + 4 nozzles for free (we have for 40,000 rubles) or Kenwood KVC 5320S Küchenmaschine Chef Elite
madlab, the attachments, of course, are a good thing, but this is a profitable business, the main thing is to buy a car and start working, and then it will become clear what is needed from the attachments. I am for the second option, 100W more power - this time, and most importantly the attachments are a spiral-shaped hook of a new design, and most importantly, all three are made of stainless steel. I wish you success!
madlab
Quote: Peter Push
nozzles, of course, are a good thing, but this is a profitable business, the main thing is to buy a car and start working, and then it will become clear what is needed from the nozzles. I am for the second option, 100W more power - this time, and most importantly the attachments are a spiral-shaped hook of a new design, and most importantly, all three are made of stainless steel. I wish you success!
So I also look in this direction, but ...
(as in that film: "... I want to eat, and I want to lose weight ...")
Here - a guarantee and gifts, there - a new model with all sorts of improvements and cheaper by 6 sput.
In general, I suffer ...

By the way, I can't find a complete set on Kenwood KVC 5320S. Is there like a blender and more mixers?
Peter Push
Quote: madlab
I can't find the complete set on Kenwood KVC 5320S
madlab, yes, there is a blender and three planetary socket attachments - a hook, a whisk and a K-shape. Many took and are taking abroad, yes, there is a risk, it may be minimal, but still there. It's up to you, and only you. Look at this option, here you can immediately purchase attachments, shipping will not be so expensive anymore 🔗food processors.asp, the store has been tested by many forum users. Happy shopping!
Maksimka
Good day. Help me deal with KM Kenwood's pokuda. As mentioned above, there is a special offer for the Kenwood Chef Sense KVC5000T Kitchen Machine. The 1100 W power is enough for everyday tasks: knead dumplings, chop vegetables for salad, cabbage for pickling? And I still can't decide on the choice of attachments, the choice is limited by the action.
1. Attachment-food processor Kenwood KAH 647PL
2. Nozzle grater-slicer Kenwood KAX 643





And yet, how necessary
Kenwood AT 501 and Kenwood AT 511 Mixing Nozzle?
NatalyaB
Quote: Maksimka
1. Attachment-food processor Kenwood KAH 647PL
2. Nozzle grater-slicer Kenwood KAX 643
Is it a choice? Then definitely a food processor.Of course, everyone has their own preferences, but I use a food processor (aka food processor) every day, and the low-speed grater did not impress me, it was a waste of my purchase. But I don’t make plots with basins. In the thread about the nozzles, someone posted a photo of the results of shredding with this nozzle.
As for the first one, AT501 (here it is called "flexi"), I would say - it is desirable: if you want to whip butter for creams and recipes, where it is required, then it is much more convenient, but some can cope well without it.
The last one, 511, is not helping me yet. Maybe others will tell. In principle, it is for careful mixing of whipped products with loose products (imitation of "slowly from the bottom up"), but I can't - it precipitates the whipped dough. Maybe I'll learn.
Maksimka
Thank you for quick answer. Now at least some certainty. The soufflé is unlikely to be very popular in our family, although it can be bought later, the price is low. I am here regretting that the ice cream cone is not included in the offer, I will have to buy it with my own money. So while 2 questions hang: how often will I make ice cream and whether it is tasty, and whether the 1100 W power is enough for the dumplings dough.
vis
Maksimka, I have such a machine, it kneads the dough on dumplings with a hook without any problems (I often make pies like Zur belyash, there is about the same dough), the power is quite enough.
Maksimka
Excellent thank you.
Miranda
Maksimka, I am also for the food processor.
This is a more functional attachment. And, importantly, it is more expensive. In the sense that if you want to later, then it will cost much more.

And a low-speed grater can always be bought hand-held, unlike ael-processor, which is rarely sold.

By itself, a low speed grater is convenient for 1-2 products. Even on the introductory MK, it was honestly called one of the rarest attachments to use, since there are more convenient attachments with similar functions.

In my opinion, its presence in the line of attachments is due to the fact that it is simply an option. And because it happened so historically, because it is one of the most ancient, and not only from Kenwood, but also from other manufacturers. Even the Soviets had it. I remember well how 30-35 years ago, my mother used a similar one, it was attached to the meat grinder, however, there was a manual version, but the design is exactly that - drums with graters and shredders.
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I would not add a soufflake, not because I don’t like it, but because you can buy it yourself for little money, relative to the cost of other attachments.

Flexy is very comfortable.
Twig
Maksimka, take the induction machine right away. Spend money, so in style!
In my opinion, they also give gifts to them, a set of three dough sheeters and noodle cutters.
Miranda
Twig, the price is still very different, almost twice.

I am also in favor of induction, but I cannot advise it left and right, since everyone has different financial capabilities.
Nathalte
Maksimkaapparently, they ended simply, ice cream makers. Because I took it last Sunday, and the boys persistently offered it, but I don't need it, I have a separate one. A meat grinder, a nozzle for pasta, a mill and juicers (including citrus) were not included yet. The rest could be taken. I took the food and did not regret it at all: a beast, not a nozzle. Gave a head start to my multi-cutter, I was already in shock from the power. So take food even if you have a harvester.
The ice cream is delicious but soft. If there is a place in the freezer to cool the bowl, then you will. Sometimes I just beat the berries, banana and kefir (sometimes even without sugar) for children - it goes with a bang.
I made dumplings dough on Wednesday with a hook - I kneaded everything. I wanted this very dumplings in food, but in the morning I did it quickly, and in the evening I would roll it, but it is rather dry. I threw it into a bowl, began to adjust with flour and water, the machine coped calmly. I haven't done anything else yet.
After reading the forum, I regretted that I had not even considered the induction, but the price is really hoo. If finances allow, then yes, you can induction.
Twig
Well, where is 40, there is 73
A person does not consider a car for 15 thousand.




By the way, the prices for 096 have just looked at Kenwood rush, I can't even reproduce the price. All in ommorok
Nathalte
Twig, controversial)))). The difference is almost twice as significant for me personally.
Miranda
Twig, I'm sorry, but I disagree.
For me personally, the difference of 30+ thousand is significant.

Now, if the difference were 10 thousand, then again for me, it would not be an obstacle, although it would still have weighed.
Marinuly
Twig, what is the price so terrible there? Interesting
Nathalte
Ladies, the question is not in the subject, the moderators will delete it, but what can you advise within 10-15 thousand with similar functionality and not the best quality? Only two live, it will not be used much, but I wanted variety so as not to buy different devices, but change the attachments like this. It seems clear she explained
Twig
Quote: Marinuly

Twig, what is the price so terrible there? Interesting
096 - 126.5t
094- 114t
🔗

I agree that the amount of 30t is significant. But man chooses. Maybe he doesn't know that induction models are also very good prices, plus they give noodles. As I understand it, a person per share with four nozzles is fucking. But here is my opinion, it is not worth Sens 40t. Well, no way. It is served only for shares. This is a special marketing model.




Nathalte, there are inexpensive and very good Kenwoods. As for the models I will not say, Silyavka has a "little brother" and there is also a very decent equipment.
Marinuly
Quote: Twig
096 - 126.5t
Nathalte
Twig, thanks, I will take a look.
Maksimka
Twig, and what is such a significant difference between an induction machine and a sensation that you have to overpay 30-40 thousand? Besides the power, of course. I somehow did not have time to master the entire thread about Kenwood, unfortunately, as with a different technique, topics for individual models are not highlighted here. I have a lot of appliances in my kitchen, so I don't need a complete set. There are meat grinders, a powerful Philips blender, a rather weak mixer, however, a bread machine. In general, how did it cope. But now I wanted a dough mixer, and kneads the dough, and for kneading sausages it will do, and beat the butter. Can't Sense handle it? I also chose a dough sheeter and a thin noodle cutter, a mini chopper. I think that's enough ... for now.





Nathalte, I also saw ice cream makers for the action a few days ago, and the mini chopper was only for money. And yesterday the opposite was true. At first I doubted my memory, you reassured me. And for some reason, the ice maker nozzle is more expensive than a separate ice maker, even Kenwood, I even keep quiet about other companies. So I changed my mind to take it.
vis
Quote: Twig
But here is my opinion, it is not worth Sens 40t.

Maybe, of course, it's not worth it ... But then induction is certainly not worth it. 40 thousand for a large bowl, heating and other metal of two nozzles is not too much? Do you think there should be even more difference?
And the sensation has its advantages - the induction is really very large, heavy and cumbersome. And my sense is stationary, but why should I clutter up the kitchen if it does an excellent job with all the tasks?
Another question is that, indeed, there were very attractive promotions in m-video. But will it still be like this when, it's hard to say ...

Twig
MaksimkaThe beauty of the ice maker is that you can use a plastic bowl. A spare bowl often helps out, the same biscuit, when the whites are separately, the yolks are separately. Although in Kenwood, she stopped whipping separately.
You put Sens and Induction next to each other, you will immediately understand why the extra 30 thousand.
For cakes and sausages, a large bowl is much more practical. Plus, the temperature when kneading sausages is easy to control. Not to mention the proofing of the dough and whipping the biscuit on the heating.




vis, both Sens and induction occupy the same space on the countertop, the only difference is in height.
Although I really, really like the colored Sensics with a transparent bowl.
vis
Quote: Twig
the difference is only in height.
Also the weight, 8.68 kg versus 13.6 kg.
Just yesterday, people who used induction unsubscribed. Pavel, who has both cars, wrote that the sense is more convenient for him. And the man also wrote that it is precisely because of the height of the induction that it is inconvenient to use the nozzles.But today all this (very important, by the way, for those choosing) information has already been deleted.
Miranda
Quote: vis
And the man also wrote that it is precisely because of the height of the induction that it is inconvenient to use the nozzles.

The man who grumbled at the height of the nozzles did not have an induction machine, but a simple one with 6.7 liters. bowl - 770. Induction is even higher by 3 + -cm., in fact, due to induction.

And the information has not been deleted, but is in another thread, where there was a discussion about height, a couple of pages of different opinions can be viewed by following the quote.

Quote: Paul I
I have Sens and 070. So Sens works constantly, and induction is more idle.
The small and compact Sens is obviously more convenient.
Maksimka
I read about induction CM. A good thing, but with a similar configuration at the moment (Sens with 4 attachments I need) it costs 30 thousand more, the height is decent, the weight is large, and the obvious advantages for me so far are the stratification of yeast dough (there is HP) and choux dough, which I do not use. And, of course, a beautiful car.
vis
Quote: Miranda

The man who grumbled at the height of the nozzles did not have an induction machine, but a simple one with 6.7 liters. bowl - 770. Induction is even higher by 3 + -cm, in fact, due to induction.

And the information has not been deleted, but is in another thread, where there was a discussion about height, a couple of pages of different opinions can be viewed by following the quote.

Exactly, it was in the thread about the nozzles, and I'm looking here, I'm sorry.
Maksimka
But the comparison was still Sens with the Induction CM.
Miranda
If we talk about external parameters, then the cars mainly differ in height and weight.

Weight is only important if the machine is planned to be moved all the time. And if it is stationary, then it does not matter how much it weighs.

Height:
machines with a small bowl - 30cm.
machines with a large bowl - 35cm.
induction machines - 38cm.
new induction - 37cm.

Length:
machines with a small bowl - 39cm.
machines with a large bowl - 41cm.
induction machines - 41cm.
new induction - 40cm.

Width:
machines with a small bowl - 29.5 cm.
machines with a large bowl - 29.5 cm.
induction machines - 33.5 cm.
new induction - 34.5

That is, in fact, they occupy + - the same place on the tabletop, since no one puts other equipment back to back. But the height and low hinged kitchen drawers - here you need to take into account, yes. And the weight if the car is rearranged every time.

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As for the inconvenience of attachment at the top of the nozzles due to the height, then this particular conversation was a contrived story due to frustration from the lack of support for the opinion about poorly ground nuts. Not a word, not even a video about successfully ground nuts was not convinced, so completely far-fetched claims began to be expressed.

I don't think the difference is 5cm. critical between CM with large and small bowls. With a larger induction, 8 cm, but it was not discussed in that incomprehensible dispute. But everyone has their own cockroaches. Maybe a person would like some kind of nest that is not very high coming out of the side. Or so that the platform for the bowl is a nest. Because I do not know where else you can think of a place for nozzles in the kitchen. car, except from above.

To me, the attachment of nozzles in Boch seems even more confused - then lower it, then turn it, and the meat grinder, so in general, almost above the tabletop, only a plate can be substituted. But, both Bosch and Kenwood pale in comparison with the equally popular Ankarsrum kneader. There, to attach the attachments, you must not only unfold, but also turn the car over. That, however, does not hinder the popularity of Ankarsrum in different countries.
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By the way, I went to see the dimensions, and saw that there was an instruction in Russian for the new induction - 🔗
atamana
Maksimka, the ELECTROPARK online store sells the previous induction 096, which many have here, for 53,500, includes a food processor and a blender.
Maksimka
I looked again more closely at the prices of the induction model:
-KITCHEN MACHINE KENWOOD COOKING CHEF KCC9060S (new in 2017) 72 thousand with blender and combine and 3 nozzles for pasta. But .... 24 provided cooking programs. Generally cool. But is it necessary?
-Kenwood KM 096 53 thousand, basic configuration.
Nathalte
Maksimka, I understand you, the temptation is enormous, but ... Take a sens with nozzles 4 as a gift for 40. For household needs, it will be enough: bread, biscuit, dumplings.
In my opinion, quite well. And more tips are better than induction. IMHO
Maksimka
Ahh, late with my message. But still, if you buy a multi-chopper, a dough sheeter and a noodle cutter, you get 53 + 24 = 77 thousand, so 9060 is more profitable. But all the same, doubts about the need for induction for 30 thousand for infrequent use remained (I compare this with Sens 5000)). I'll think.

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