Kenwood Kitchen Machines

[Natalia]

Natalia, I take from a book from Mulinex bread machine. Only more flour is obtained. And I replace milk or water with whey, which remains from the preparation of cottage cheese. And I divide the flour: I do not make pure wheat, but add rye and whole-zeon. In short, I'm experimenting based on recipes from the book)

[Anita]

Anita, so I ask because the recipe from the bread machine does not quite fit Kenwood. Once I was kneading dough on an old Kesh for bread and I also had to add more flour compared to a bread machine. It's just that I started baking bread myself recently, so I'm afraid to pour flour.
I'll try to make it according to the recipe from the book.

[Natalia]

Natalia, I get a plus of 20 percent. If you replace a part with whole grain or rye, then 30, they take less liquid. In general, look at the consistency. I like pure wheat in a grown-up state, that is, so that the dough is liquid, it keeps its shape, but it floats a little, then it comes out more luxuriant. But I make the whole grain thicker.

[4udo]

4udoKenwood got into the house like a powerful kneader. I make bread dough only in it. I don’t use the recipe from the book, all the same flour is different, recipes too. I adhere to the technology recommended by the recipe, I never set the speed higher than 2.

Girls, a tip for a low speed slicer. AT643.
Who used it, is it normal to rub potatoes, beets, boiled carrots?
unfortunately, high-speed potatoes crumple and smear me, and there is less waste smeared around the edges than in a meat grinder?
again, for small volumes, there is a reluctance to take out a high-speed one and wash it later ...
does it make sense to buy it?

Added on Friday, 08 Jul 2016 04:25 PM

And another question - I ordered a book 3 months ago using a promo code and silence. what to do, do not know?
change - found out, tel 84957812676 ext 230. thanks to the forum. though they no longer work there.

Who used it, is it normal to rub potatoes, beets, boiled carrots?
high-speed, unfortunately, the potatoes crumple and smear at me, and the waste smeared around the edges, as I understand it, is less here than in a meat grinder?

Rubs worse than high speed. For this reason, we abandoned it.

Girls, dear, take in your ranks, I am the same "sick" and please help me decide on a model. For several years I have been dreaming of Kenwood, today / right now (I have no strength to wait) I want to redeem (share price, suddenly who needs it too) which model should I buy 060 or 020 (the price is the same)? I have been reading the forum for a long time and on the official. I asked the site, but did not understand, what are the differences? The site says that there are no differences, on our forum I found about the difference between knives in a blender ..

Rubs worse than high speed. For this reason, we abandoned it.

damn. I really thought if the cheese rubs normally, then soft vegetables should. sadness

damn. I really thought if the cheese rubs normally, then soft vegetables should. sadness

Cheese rubs normally and high speed. But this is gross physics. The higher the speed, the easier it is to rub soft foods. But no grater will grind boiled potatoes into shavings, as well as soft cheese is problematic. But the high-speed one immediately dumps the product into the hopper, and the low-speed drum must still be picked out. There it generally falls into someone.

Added on Friday 08 Jul 2016 4:54 pm

what model should I buy 060 or 020

The difference in attachments is due to the fact that the newer model 060 comes with the next generation attachments.Objectively, the new blender is better than the previous one, and not only because of the knives, but it has a paddle to help mixing.
So take 060 and don't worry.

kenwood cube horror how disappointed

I want to stand up for the cube. I bought a cube recently (I wrote in the topic about attachments). Already several times I cut boiled vegetables for okroshka. I cut them just chilled, there was no time to chill in the refrigerator for a long time. Everything was cut perfectly, only boiled vegetables alternated with raw ones.

PS With a Kenwood cube, I'm terribly disappointed, for me it's only suitable for raw vegetables

Not at all. It cuts even boiled potatoes extremely well. Well, perhaps not quite crumbly should be taken. The truth is that raw cuts are much better, which is understandable. Well, it is more difficult to clean boiled ones afterwards. Therefore, at the moment, we prefer to cut raw first, and then boil the cubes.

Added on Friday 08 Jul 2016 05:49 PM

damn. I really thought if the cheese rubs normally, then soft vegetables should. sadness

It's not about softness, but about the presence of starch and gluten in the potatoes. It just sticks together. This does not happen with carrots and beets.
Well, the lower the speed, the more effort is required to push the product, which also has a negative effect on the quality of the finished product.

They have already written about the cube that it is necessary to alternate vegetables, first soft, then hard. I only apply this to potatoes, the rest can be cut themselves without problems.
And on a grater the food processor suits me perfectly. And the volume he needs. For large volumes, high-speed. Try experimenting with speeds.

[Sedne]

Yes, raw vegetables for cubes are just a fairy tale! I sit admiring vegetable salads. And what a beautiful pumpkin turns out ... mmm ...

Added on Friday 08 Jul 2016 6:02 pm

Sedne, for me cache is a solid experiment, as I love. You have to get used to everything. Change speeds, try different attachments. Here, thanks a lot to those who started the tests and shared their experience, we, one might say, came to everything ready))))
And Olga so cleaned the Temka with nozzles that it was just beauty. It took me 2 weeks to read and understand these 2 topics in December-January.

[Paul I]

Paul I, here half of the forum at least makes a cool dough in combines according to this recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=283291.0

And even those with a kneader.

Conventional food processor with a handle from KM080 / 090 series.

Will a blender be used dry?

Why not?
And then, like the dough is not dry.

Added Saturday 09 Jul 2016 03:28 PM

I did it in a blender, however, Brown 600 volts. I put everything at once on a small amount of flour. There the knives are big, but in Kenwood they are small, and I thought it wouldn't work.

It's not about size at all. Try it.

Added Saturday 09 Jul 2016 03:35 PM

And you cannot add water to the grinder in the process.

Yes, this is essential. Although you can top up by stopping.
Okay, cross it out.

I love the high-speed one very much, but I use it only in the harvesting season. Last summer I cut a lot of cucumbers into slices for Nezhinsky salad, there are a lot of onions in rings, I wouldn't dare to use my hands - I don't like monotony. We always have a large harvest of carrots, we put some in the cellar, and grind some in the freezer. A bucket of carrots cuts very quickly at 4 speeds. But I wouldn't cut cabbage on it. The pieces will turn out to be porridge, and the inlet is very small. I like cabbage to be long thin stripes on the Berner. I also love beetroot caviar, so 6 large beets can be easily and naturally chopped in minutes. It is very necessary for those who have their own harvest and cellar.

who did it on boiling water, is it better to knead the dough with a hook or K-shaped?

I kneaded with a hook, it seems to me that the K-shaped one will not pull.

It is very necessary for those who have their own harvest and cellar.

I disagree)))
There is neither one nor the other, but the grater is constantly in use. Cheese is rubbed weekly into containers, hard and semi-hard, one on a fine grater, the other on a coarser one, and who needs it without worries is added wherever it gets.
Carrots for freezing in portioned bags for soups, I buy 3-4 kg and enough for 4 months. Even rubbing such a quantity by hand at one time makes it easier for me to shoot myself. Likewise, beets for borscht and beetroot. When I come across delicious beets, I buy a lot, rub it in the freezer.

[proshka]

proshka, and I chop the cabbage with a fine shredder at a high speed. I love!
kseniya D, completely in solidarity. I also like to be confused once and then live in peace. A bowl of salad, in packages, vacuum and eat a little for two weeks)

[Anita]

Anita, but how is it - small? I'm afraid there will be porridge. It's just that in our house, cabbage is traditionally chopped only in long thin strips. Once I saw a cabbage salad on a visit, I didn't like the look. And what is the disk number?

Here, just the crumb turns out, such a short very straw Therefore, I do not use a vegetable cutter attachment, which rubs very finely with thin plates, and at the same time gives out very small fractions
At home, we also love coarser slicing, especially cabbage for stewing so that it is a long straw.

I do not use a vegetable cutter attachment - packed lies

[Admin]

Admin, you seem to cut it with a disc for straws, and I precisely with that disc, which has one long hole.

Yes, all the same vegetables are obtained (on any nozzle-disk) small and with "torn fractions" I tried different nozzles - I don't like this kind of cutting, it's not mine.
I'd rather grate vegetables on a burner grater, here they are obtained as needed in length and width, and there is less torn.

When cabbage and vegetables are coarsely chopped into long strips, they also have a loose shape when stewed.
And after cutting into disks, small fractions, during extinguishing, all this becomes denser and the mass comes out denser - I don't like that

I kneaded with a hook, it seems to me that the K-shaped one will not pull.

Thank you.
In all offices. video on the pasta nozzle dough (where spirals, shells, etc.) make the pasta dough K-shaped. That's why I asked.

I did it on boiling water, I have a different recipe than I googled here on the forum. There flour + boiling water, then cool slightly, add an egg and more flour. Here is the first stage with a hook, the second stage is K-shaped. It turned out ok. The K-shaped head seemed to move less.

I still can't get used to the fact that shaking my head is normal, I'm worried. A video was discussed on YouTube, there are a lot of Italian users who make cool dough for pasta, even translated their comments by Google. They argue there about shaking their heads.

But videos from different presentations, where people do not bother. They have some kind of light attitude towards the car. Well, of course, she's not theirs, they didn't save up for her. But office. the video is always so filmed that there is no whole picture, only a close-up of the dough itself. Sly ones.

And, of course, I want to talk about it, but I don't know how to formulate the question

Hello everybody!

Today I met with representatives of Kenwood company. They appreciated my meticulousness with the company's products and suggested that I be something of a company consultant. So, now there is direct feedback with them and the opportunity to make our suggestions to improve the design and consumer qualities of the machine and attachments. And they also promised to give me a poyuzat and disassemble the induction machine for the internal structure. So, in the near future I will probably have it and I will be able not only to understand why induction is still needed, but also to see what is inside.
In this regard, the question is for the user of induction.
As a meticulous and systemic person, I would like to get an exhaustive list of what induction can help and make your culinary life easier. So far, nothing comes to my mind, except for the opportunity to finally cook semolina porridge without burning.
In short, why do you use induction in your culinary delights or everyday cooking? Is it really necessary and are there things that cannot be prepared without it?

If I had induction, I would definitely make dough for custards in it and cook a base for a cream. This is the most commonly used one for me.
Well, dough for honey lovers and honey gingerbread.

If I had induction - definitely

What prevents you from purchasing, if you need it so much and you consciously understand why?

What prevents you from purchasing

It's a banal financial question ... I have a one and a half year old, and I don't see any point in changing it to induction with a surcharge.

A banal financial question ... I have a one and a half year old 20th, I see no point in changing it to induction with a surcharge.

Well, there is a sense at least in what you have listed. Or are they insignificant things?
Well, so, you can sell 020, let's say on Avito, thousand for 30-35 (in Yulmart I saw him for 45) and pay up to 70 kopecks for induction. If there is a specific interest, I can try to puzzle Kenwood himself with discounts for members of the forum. Perhaps it will. They give some kind of discounts to shops or promotions.

[Paul I]

Paul I, without induction, you can cook everything
They cooked it somehow 50, 100 and more years ago. And there are no special recipes of this kind that have appeared thanks to induction alone.

Another question is that it makes life much easier in some cases. And yet, thanks to her, many housewives decide on some recipes that they have not even tried without her.

I would divide into four types.

1. This is all different with uniform, gentle stirring.
Not only semolina porridge, but polenta (Italian hominy), and other cereals. Preserves, jams and confitures are different. Condensed milk. Risotto. Delicate stew of some kind.
2. This is all sorts of different where to beat hot or in a steam bath.
Custard dough and custard. Dough on boiling water, even a biscuit, even for dumplings. Various sauces.
3. Maintaining a certain temperature, that is, without the participation of nozzles.
Proofing the dough. Boiling sausages or sous vide. Etc.
4. Steam cooking. But I would call this type of operation "toys", because to drive the machine, risk condensate to steam something ... Well, I don't know.
***
PS on a separate line, since you have a connection with the company.
Here is a page with contacts for communication 🔗 You call on the phone - write letters, and they talk like robots. You write a letter - for more than two weeks there has been no answer. Please tell me that a decent company organizes feedback in a slightly different way, especially if the products are not for a penny.

Is it really necessary and are there things that cannot be prepared without it?

I have a Sens 5030 and an induction cooker. I hate induction, I don't even bother about its absence in Kesh. I think this is an unnecessary siphoning of money. How many of these gingerbreads will I make in my entire life? And as for custard cakes - I don't do it at all, the rhythm of life does not allow ...
Financially, I can afford induction, but I don't see any point in it. For an ordinary working woman, this is an unnecessary toy.
To modify the nozzles - it would not hurt.

Steam cooking. But I would call this type of operation "toys", because to drive the machine, risk condensate to steam something ... Well, I don't know.

Well, if the manufacturer claims the possibility of such a function, what is the risk? And definitely a guarantee case if something goes wrong.

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 00:33

PS on a separate line, since you have a connection with the company.
Here is a page with contacts for communication 🔗 You call on the phone - write letters, and they talk like robots. You write a letter - for more than two weeks there has been no answer. Please tell me that a decent company organizes feedback in a slightly different way, especially if the products are not for a penny

Forwarded the question.
Let's see what the answer is.
In any case, I discussed the issues of feedback and even the creation of a user club with them in great detail and they declared their readiness to move in this direction.
In the meantime, I can ask the most burning questions on my own behalf.

sell 020 on Avito for 30-35 thousand (in Yulmart I saw him for 45) and pay up to 70 kopecks for induction

No, for this money I will do everything on the stove)))

I hate induction, I don't even bother about its absence in Kesh. I think this is an unnecessary siphoning of money.

Well, I agree with you somewhere. Once a year I regret that there is no such thing when I make boiled Easter and I need to stand and stir the mixture for an hour so that it does not burn. Otherwise, I don't remember.
But there is also another side. An opportunity will arise and you begin to do those things that you did not think about before, cultivating a cook in yourself. So it happened to me with Kenwood himself. The first car is 507. It was presented to us. Never in my right mind and firm memory, I would not buy my wife a kitchen car for 35 thousand. After a year with her, I realized that I was ready to pay that kind of money for such a car. And after 1.5 years I sold and bought Session. And now I'm going to test the induction. Let's see how she will prove her worth ...

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 00:43

No, for this money I will do everything on the stove)))

Here the key word is I. In the variant of induction, SHE will do everything herself.
Otherwise, you are absolutely right.

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 00:46

To modify the nozzles - it would not hurt.

I agree.
I have already sent them proposals for the improvement of the rub and berry press.
Write your suggestions: what nozzles and how can and should be modified.
They promised to bring it to the attention of the developers and take it into account in subsequent models.

[Paul I]

Paul I, I cooked once for a couple, I don't want to anymore.

The manufacturer advises to close the bowl with a lid. In this position, the steam looks for a hole and finds it at the junction of two covers. And condensation settles on the inside of the cap-on-head (I don't know what to call it).

When I returned to the kitchen, I was very surprised. I removed the lid from the bowl, the bowl itself, removed the lid from the motor. So that's where the vertical turns into the horizontal, which covers the bottom of the head, there was a puddle. The whole head was wet - the meat grinder plug, the whole side, the whole bottom.

And after all, I only held apples for a couple for 30 minutes.
In principle, this happens with any cooking at high temperatures (there is no such thing when proofing dough). Only if you open the window on the lid, the steam no longer breaks into the crack between the lids, and comes out through the window. Then there is no such condensation. But a couple with an open window is at least ridiculous. Cook risotto in a bowl with an open window - approx. For a couple - not very ok.

Perhaps there are various silicone pieces that will prevent condensate-water from getting where it does not need, other thoughtful protection. But it bothered me as a user, because it is not spelled out, I'm not sure that everything is so thought out. I don't want to risk an expensive car, I won't cook anything with steam.

Perhaps there are various silicone pieces that will prevent condensation-water from getting where it does not need, other thoughtful protections. But it bothered me as a user, because it is not spelled out, I'm not sure that everything is so thought out. I don't want to risk an expensive car, I won't cook anything with steam.

Clear. I will try not to forget how to get the car under the razdrakonivanie and understand this issue. I hope the manufacturer has provided this opportunity, or maybe not. Then he will receive another complaint.
Although, of course, a banal double boiler is cheaper here.
If you need clarification, I will contact you. What city are you in?
And change the icon. I have a cognitive dissonance between a woman's name and a man's face. I was raised in a conservative spirit

Forwarded the question.

Thank you
And then I want a book, but I have an old-style coupon (without a code, but with a questionnaire that must be filled in and an old mail, I can send a photo in a personal).

On the phone, different girls (I called several times) do not know about the existence of the old type of book coupon. It is assumed that I am deceiving them, that they are not sending anything in the old way. The old kenwoodinfo @ mail is sometimes called fake, or whether it is a worker's information overly secret. And everything is sent to the mail.

And the mail is silent. And I want a recipe book. It doesn't matter if I read it 1-2 times and most will not be useful, I want it.

And such a connection on issues of a car worth 1-2-3 of our salaries is not acceptable.

Write your suggestions: what nozzles and how can and should be modified.

There are many nuances.
For example, I consider it a big mistake to have another socket for nozzles in Sense. As a result, there are almost no attachments for Sens on sale (I am not talking about the official representatives of the brand, which are only in Moscow, but about the sellers of household appliances throughout the country), as a result, this stupid adapter is required for almost every attachment. VERY inconvenient, sometimes you don't want to get the nozzle out.
Then, the blender device does not inspire confidence. Once during cooking, I started to seep from the bottom. Who thought of making a collapsible blender bowl?
Stupid idea with multi-shredders too. I really like the cups themselves, but the fact that they need to be turned upside down during use is very inconvenient. If I am making a sauce and I need to add something during the grinding process, everything around is stained with the sauce.
Also try to compare the work of a whisk for a whisk at Kesha and, for example, at Bosch. The difference is very impressive.
And that's just what's obvious. For that kind of money - I would like engineering, but the developers, it seems, do not use their brainchild. At least with the new "improved" models.

And such a connection on issues of a car worth 1-2-3 of our salaries is not acceptable.

While we are waiting for an answer, try to resolve the issue yourself.

If you need clarification, I will contact you. What city are you in?

OK. Me and a machine in Yaroslavl. But here I am at work, myself from Moscow, in fact I live in two cities. If the stars align correctly, then maybe I'll be back this year.

And change the icon. I have a cognitive dissonance between a woman's name and a man's face. I was raised in a conservative spirit

Well, that's not the case.
Mice, bunnies, cats, dogs, or inanimate objects do not bother you. So why is Tom Waits so discordant?

Don't bring this up anymore.
It is no different from asking "why are you wearing pants, are you a woman" or saying "skirts should not be above the knee." That is, it is at least inappropriate, as insulting as possible.

***

And in general, thanks for the communication with the manufacturers, God forbid, a lot of good things will turn out.

Don't bring this up anymore.

OK!

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 01:27

Then, the device of the blender does not inspire confidence. Once during cooking, I started to seep from the bottom. Who thought of making a collapsible blender bowl?

Otherwise, it will not be washed normally.
Otherwise, he's fine. Nothing leaks from us. It must be tightened correctly.

Also try to compare the work of a whisk for a whisk at Kesha and, for example, at Bosch. The difference is very impressive.

What is the fundamental difference? And in whose favor?

So why is Tom Waits so discordant?

Now four came to me - among them one woman disguised as a man, two men armed with revolvers - and terrorized me!

What is the fundamental difference? And in whose favor?

Well, yes, there are no complaints about the Kenwood whisk. And to buy Bosch because of this is nonsense.
With a new nest, yes, there are questions. But I think the manufacturer had good reason to move to the new standard.
If I don’t forget, I’ll ask why this was done.
Well, multi-shredders are generally a complete misunderstanding.They can't really do anything and any cheap coffee grinder is overpowering.
I can also add that the citrus juicer is not a very good pressing surface profile.

[Paul I]

Paul I,

I'll think about the attachments, I had some thoughts, but this should be done with a fresh mind.

So far, as a new user of the machine (only a month), I only face difficulties in removing the attachment. Either I can't disconnect the cube from the adapter ball, or yesterday the food processor. And after all, not quite a humanist

There are no words in the instructions - turn and do not remove, but use as a lever to separate the parts. Or something like that.

Well, the disc-julienne fell apart on first use.
Again, on the phone I could not answer the warranty case or not, and the service center in Yaroslavl said to come with the car, they will decide on the spot. But driving with a car is oh. I'd better glue it myself. If I solder the computer components, I really can't glue it on.

Cry
Once I tried the food processor, I decided to see how julienne cuts.

Rumbled and jumped (but in Boshik fries and julienne also rattle, did not arouse suspicion, the design of the disks is like that). And when I opened it, there was a broken spool. Maybe the carrots were so hard that they ripped them off? Or initially it was badly glued.



It is clear what can be glued, there is a clearly visible trace of glue. Now I will think about which one.

And a separate point is the experience of walking your head on a tight dough. A month has passed, but I'm not used to it. I know what is normal, but how normal is how to determine to what border it is normal.
***
I'm happy with everything else
Like very much!

***

And, here, I remembered.
Somehow I thought that I would be happy if Kenwood thought of releasing two extras. circle with a grid for a cube nozzle. With a larger cube (1.5cm or better 2cm), and a smaller cube (0.5-0.6 or max 0.7cm). I would buy both immediately.

Bosch has a removable grille, and there are several grille sizes on sale. Kenwood's is not removable, molded into a circle. But I don’t think it’s difficult to set up the production of these circles with grates of different sizes.

If I solder the computer components, I really can't glue it on.

What's this? What is it like? A woman with a soldering iron?

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 01:45

Come on and disc julienne

Why is he "Julien"?

What is the fundamental difference? And in whose favor?

I think it's in speed.
With a mixer or Boshik, everything was whipped with a whisk by orders of magnitude faster. Planetary mixing is not fast, but the result is more satisfying to me.

But at first you look for the first 5 minutes and don't believe that it will beat you. The feeling that the corolla is just driving the liquid. And then once - and whipped it to myself.

But you save up on Kenwood, you dream, fantastic expectations arise, where speed is one of the elements.

And a separate point is the experience of walking your head on a tight dough. A month has passed, but I'm not used to it. I know what is normal, but how normal is how to determine to what border it is normal.

infinitely normal.

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 01:48 AM

So far, I, as a new user of the car (only a month)

Remind me where you got it and how much? And what is the car number?

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 01:49

Somehow I thought that I would be happy if Kenwood thought of releasing two extras. circle with a grid for a cube nozzle. With a larger cube (1.5cm or better 2cm), and a smaller cube (0.5-0.6 or max 0.7cm). I would buy both immediately.

Bosch has a removable grille, and there are several grille sizes on sale. Kenwood's is not removable, molded into a circle. But I don’t think it’s difficult to set up the production of these circles with grates of different sizes.

Good question to ask.

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 01:52

But you save up on Kenwood, you dream, fantastic expectations arise, where speed is one of the elements.

No, speed is not here.
"Who understands life, he is in no hurry"
Degree, quality and reliability.
Here's what to expect from Kenwood.

What's this? What is it like? A woman with a soldering iron?

Whats wrong with that?
I like the technique. I like to disassemble, look, put back together. I love math. I don’t know a better cure for depression than reading Fichtengolts and making decisions from there. Because movies / books or conversations with girlfriends are all emotional, and mathematics is out of this field, and guarantees a couple of hours of pure reason, as if you had slept. But this is offtopic. And in general I am a humanist

Why is he "Julien"?

Because this is the name of the slicing, not the dish

This is what Wikipedia says: Julien (fr. Julienne) - a special way of cutting young vegetables into thin strips, which came from French cuisine, usually in the summer season for soups and salads. The etymology is unclear, the origin of the French female name Julienne is considered.

Because this is the name of the slicing, not the dish

But what about the usual chicken with mushrooms?

Added on Tuesday 12 Jul 2016 02:01 AM

Whats wrong with that?

Never mind.
Only Sofia Kovalevskys are rarely found in comparison with all sorts of Perelman and Fermat.

Only here Sophia Kovalevskys rarely meet

This is prejudice.
In addition to purely scientific things, it was women who came up with - a circular saw, a periscope, a windshield wiper and a muffler for a car, a dishwasher, silicone and much more.

But my favorite is the beautiful Hedy Lamarr.
Film actress, extraordinary beauty (photo under the spoiler), the first actress to star naked, because of which there were many problems at the beginning of the last century.

But it was she who, without interrupting filming, invented a new type of secret communication with frequency hopping, which formed the basis of cell phones, navigators, Bluetooth and WiFi.

Women are cool
Let's finish offtopic, otherwise we will be punished in the morning

[stalena]

I think it's in speed.

Well, let's wait for an answer stalena... I have no experience, but it seemed that she was talking about the algorithm for moving the rim. Because of this, the shape of the bowls is very different. To be honest, I personally like Boshevskaya more - here this bucket seems too deep and narrow. Induction is not particularly needed, so what remains for requests is about the same price as a normal Bosch. I am slowly looking at the "competitors", but the purchase is not soon, there is crazy spending in the house on the horizon. (

Let me add a few words about the multi-shredder. I agree that he grinds it very doubtfully. But I got used to making small portions of mayonnaise for 1-2 times in it and tomato paste for coating the pizza base. We usually rarely eat mayonnaise, but now it is very popular for okroshka. It is very convenient to do it in just a few seconds, fill the dish, cover the rest with a lid and put it in the refrigerator for use on the trail. day. I would definitely not have to dirty a blender for such small needs and then wash it.