Miranda
Quote: Peter Push
one must also bear in mind that foreign young ladies spoil their families with a full meal only on weekends

But it's not a fact, I came across a bread forum, there, 2-3 times a week with the Kenwoods, foreign ladies made bread.
Quote: Masinen
Anya, it seems to me that there is a hexagonal pin, as in sensations.
So you need to take care of your old tips.

Hmm, but the truth is, it looks like a round pin.

I don't approve of that.
Masinen
Quote: Miranda
I don't approve of this
They also did it on purpose so that poor customers would buy all the attachments anew, and not save their hard-earned money on them.

Prank
Quote: Peter Push

Prank , look: our topic number 2, page 354, answer 7067 - a line of cars - at least some, far from complete, idea of ​​the Kenwood km.
New without induction, see here 🔗, right there and "old". Good luck!



Added Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:33 PM

And the difference among the chefs is 4.6 liters, among the majors - 6.7 liters. They vary in power from 800w to now 1600w. There is a line of sens - there are both bowls, there is a cookin chef, they have large bowls of 6.7 liters, new ones - there are also 4.6 and 6.7 liters. And what about the new induction, if there will be, well, there will be no medium speed nest, well, there will be backlighting, it is not important, take democratic prices for them for now.

Peter Push, Thank you. What you need is a table that's convenient. So the cookin chef is the most sophisticated.

Why do you need a medium speed socket and why will it not be in new ones?
Miranda
Quote: Masinen
They also did it on purpose so that poor customers would buy all the attachments anew, and not save their hard-earned money on them.

This means that the new inductions will be

The main thing is that the nests for other attachments are the same.
And the whisk / stirrer is still included in the kit.
Peter Push
Quote: Prank
Why do you need a medium speed socket and why will it not be in new ones?
Prank , this socket is needed for a single attachment - a food processor (combine) with knives and 6 discs. These processors used to be made for this medium-speed socket, but now they are being made for a high-speed socket (look where the table line is, there is also the compatibility of nozzles). For induction (and for majors 020/023, 060/063) you can take either one or the other. For the sensor line, Prime is only new with the letters KAN.


Added Thursday, 06 October 2016, 14:18

CM Kenwood are designed so that if one socket is working, then the rest (2 or 3) are spinning the same, here is one - the medium-speed one and removed, its function is performed by the fast-speed one. I think that the load on the motor is less - this is one, and less parts - that's two.


Added Thursday, 06 October 2016, 14:22

Yes, the cook's chef is the most sophisticated at the moment, and I think for a long time, there is the best hook for the dough. If there is a new induction one, it will be with 4.6L bowls.


Added Thursday, 06 October 2016, 14:36

Quote: Miranda
The main thing is that the nests for other attachments are the same.
Miranda, so I was examining the attachments for the new Kenwoods, and I was tormented by the suspicion that the pin was not of the same diameter as that of our majors, of course, these are just my suspicions, and all this is just a glance from afar, but ((((We will see, hopefully soon owners will appear and shed light on our thoughts, anxieties, aspirations.
Masinen
Girls, tomorrow I'll go to Mvideo and take a picture of your new Keshka)
The main thing is that he was there))
Bijou
Quote: Masinen
The main thing is that he was there))
Check the site in advance.) They write how many copies in which store. Well, it's clear if there is any. Not to say that it works one hundred percent, but it works.
Masinen
Lena, writes that there is)
Therefore, wait with the report, I will sort it out there.
Girls, look what a handsome man!
Planetary mixer GEMLUX GL-SM5G
Peter Push
New ones appeared in Kiev as well. Found with bowls 6.7 liters.
1. Price per car + 5 attachments (hook, whisk, k-eshka, flexi, souffleika) + blender (1.6 l) are equal, almost equal, km sens with a bowl of 4.6 l +3 attachments (hook, whisk, bag).
2. Price for the car + 5 attachments (hook, whisk, k-eshka, flexi, souffleika) + blender (1.6 l) + meat grinder + mini-grinder + citrus press are equal to Kenwood Kms053 + 4 attachments (hook, whisk, k-eshka, flexi ) + blender (1.6l) + meat grinder + mini chopper + citrus press + scales.
Paul I
Quote: Peter Push
Pavel I, Bijou, but I am very worried about something else, the absence of any oil seals and holes where I could drip oil for lubrication, because there is nothing to be done about glands, but it is necessary to lubricate.
Modern mechanisms and modern greases are designed for the entire life of the device.
Quote: Masinen
They also did it on purpose so that poor customers would buy all the attachments anew, and not save their hard-earned money on them.
If it was done on purpose, they would not make a cheap adapter.
Peter Push
Quote: Paul I
Modern mechanisms and modern greases are designed for the entire life of the device
Paul I, thanks, you have calmed me down. Why don't you have your opinion about new cars?
Masinen
Quote: Paul I
If it was done on purpose, they would not make a cheap adapter.

So the adapter is only for sensors, but on the contrary there is no adapter.
Paul I
Quote: Peter Push
Pavel I, thank you, you have calmed me down. Why don't you have your opinion about new cars?
And where can I get it if I don't have the car?
Moreover, Kenwood promised to let me dig into the induction and has not yet fulfilled his promise.
When I dig deeper, then a specific opinion may appear.
In the meantime, these are speculative structures made of atmospheric air - the essence of castles in the air.


Added Thursday, 06 Oct 2016, 21:05

Quote: Masinen
So the adapter is only for sensors, but on the contrary there is no adapter.
Well, right, why do they need downshifting.
And what new good attachments are there that need to be adapted to old machines, that it made sense to make such an adapter?

Masinen
Quote: Paul I
And what new good attachments are there that need to be adapted to old machines, that it made sense to make such an adapter?
Yes, it seems no)
As well as vice versa.
In my opinion, the adapter is needed in order not to change the attachments for the low-speed socket when changing the machine.
Paul I
Quote: Masinen
Yes, it seems no)
As well as vice versa.
In my opinion, the adapter is needed in order not to change the attachments for the low-speed socket when changing the machine.
So they released an adapter to drink old nozzles fit in your new car. What's wrong?
Masinen
Well, if you bought Segs and all the attachments to it without an adapter, those relatives, and then took and bought induction and that's it, break off.
You have to sell and buy new ones, you lose money)
So I say what the second adapter from sens to induction or 020, 010, 770, 570 should have done.
Bijou
Quote: Paul I
Well, right, why do they need downshifting.
But by the way, another question ... If I have an old car, to which I am not able to connect a new attachment because there is no adapter and well, that downshifting, it is assumed that in such an unpretentious way the manufacturer kicks me into the store for a new car. To which I can screw a new attachment.

But, remembering about the brass plate with holes for 5 thousand, one gets the impression that money is made not only on machines. For on the sale of nozzles, they, money, get cheaper, since the margin is radically different.)) So is it not in vain that Kenwood "stimulates" the old people in this way? Maybe not only will they not buy a new car, but they will not give money for profitable tips.
And so, having bought new attachments and not far from changing the car, if the opportunity arises.

Not?)


Added on Thursday, 06 October 2016, 21:45

Quote: Masinen
Yes, it seems no)
As well as vice versa.
No, that's different. Old cars are no longer being produced. And the attachments for them, of course, will soon run out in stores. I already have a car, I want a nozzle. But it is only new and does not fit my car. What to do?)
Bijou
Quote: Miranda
And what kind of plate with holes?
Nozzle for pasta. Pavel and I somehow lamented about its pricing.

Masinen, exactly...)
Belka13
These plates with holes on the same CU are several times cheaper.
Masinen
Quote: Paul I
Wait for a new induction and everything will be fine.
So I didn't buy anything, I have both cars with the old entrance, so I didn't even have to change the attachments)

But those who fell for the action by induction, and before that bought attachments for Sens, that's what they need an adapter for. And then the money is down the drain.
In general, I didn't really like Sense.
I don't know what about the new cars, I'll look at them tomorrow, but outwardly they remind me of Sens.
While 086/096 is no better, to the joy of my deepest
Top model

Although 020 is great, I wanted it from the very beginning)
Miranda
Quote: Paul I
How do you rate the quality?

Whatever year of release, but:
- stainless steel is better than silumin
- the shape of the spiral hook is better than the squiggle hook
- 13.6kg. more stable than 9.4 kg.
- 1500 watts more than 1200
- having a timer is better than not
Etc. including induction, flexi included.
Masinen
Quote: Paul I
It’s not a stock.
Pavel, here we are saying the same thing, just in different words)

So I wrote this word Pecked

And again my conclusion:
Because of this type of action, people had to buy new tips))
Maybe so you will understand me

But on the type of action with Sens, I didn’t bite, especially the option that they put into action.
Outwardly I did not like it with a small bowl, but for me external data is very important.
I must have everything in harmony so that I look and nothing bothers me, but in little Sense everything bothers me and my eye does not perceive it)

But this is my opinion)
Tanyush @ ka
I didn't like the session either, I ordered it in technosil, looked at it and didn't take it, my kenwood 060 looks more solid and how it turned out is not a little important and the cup is bigger, it was not for nothing that the girls advised me, I only realized this when I started using it. Well, as they say, there are no comrades in taste and color. (
Peter Push
Quote: Masinen
Therefore, everything will be on our forum!
I promise to tell and show you everything
Masinen, we are waiting))) Thank you


Added on Friday 07 Oct 2016 6:09 PM

Maria, please, write - what speeds 1, 2, 4 Bosch correspond to the speed of Kenwood.
Masinen
freska, just not the sens titanium, but the chief titanium)
Sens another car.

Today I was looking for this Titanium, they are not there, but they have already been delivered to the warehouse, so you can order M-video in the online store.

Now I will write what they told me about her, talked with a representative of Kenwood.
Hexagon input, bowl illumination, quiet roll, 5 attachments included, and these are: a hook of a new sample, K-attachment, flexi bitter, like a K-attachment, only silicone, and for a soufflé, those for gentle mixing of products into dough, cream, mousses, etc.
Well, sort of basic))
LisaNeAlisa
Only the question is whether it is worth taking for 60 tons. ordinary kenwood, if you can take induction for the same day. I do not think that there are more than 20 differences from the 060th.
freska
LisaNeAlisa, I say that after talking here with you, my thoughts at least began to fit exactly)))

and more .. i'm looking at model 83 and it looks like sense for some reason ..


Added on Friday 07 Oct 2016 08:33 PM

LisaNeAlisa .. well, in fact he is somehow fabulously beautiful .. nothing more .. just some kind of masterpiece !!!!
Belka13
I’ve already seen that shop assistants often know less than us. Therefore, you need to see the goal and strive for it. And if some model fully meets the desires, then there is no need to doubt. And the forum often helps to decide. The new model is beautiful, I agree (but I love my induction Kesha).
Miranda
freskabecause this design is new round.

But now I'm making bread, and so I like the timer and induction.
LisaNeAlisa
And I trudge from the whisk in my 020))) I have now baked a charlotte, so I like that you can whip the whole eggs and everything turns out so magnificently.
Masinen
By the way, I would still buy induction 096 than this titanium.
Still, the Cooking Chef is the Cooking Chef

Yes, the Titanium tips are all made of stainless steel.

freska
Masinen, who has a lot of cookies here? is everyone happy with it?
Masinen
freska, many and all are 100 percent satisfied
freska
Masinen, well, apparently my throwing is not for one day)))
did you immediately decide on the model?
Belka13
freska, Cooking differs from the usual only in the timer and the possibility of cooking at a high temperature. How can you be dissatisfied with him?
Masinen
Quote: Peter Push
Maria tell me, pliz, the speed in Bosh mum is 1,2,4, and which ones are in the cache?

Well, 1 speed is the minimum in Cash, but 4 is fast, maybe like 5 in Kenwood ..
3 I don't remember how it turns.
The bread is kneaded by 1-2.
Quote: freska
Masinen, well, apparently my throwing is not for one day)))
did you immediately decide on the model?
Nope, not right away.
At first I bought Kenwood Chief 560/570, but now, I have already come to induction))
kseniya D
Quote: Belka13
differs from the usual only in the timer and the presence of the possibility of cooking at a high temperature
I don't use induction so often, but without a timer and a thermometer, it's now like no hands. I started the dough, set the timer and went ... And when kneading the meat onto the ham, it is easy to monitor the temperature of the minced meat, given that its temperature should not exceed 12 grams. The last time I had to interrupt mixing and put it to cool in the refrigerator. Don't be this magic button
yana0505
freskaI bought the 096 model two weeks ago and I admire every day from semolina, mashed potatoes to any dough. At first I wanted to give in to the action (6 nozzles and a car as a gift), but stopped in time, because I know myself: I want more and have to either give away or sell for a pittance. Induction is cool, even if you don't use it every day. The temperature sensor is very much in demand, now I put the yeast dough and set the proving temperature to 32 degrees, the machine itself maintains this temperature.
Pancho
Quote: Prank
And where does the keshik measure the tempo? Thermal sensor under the bowl?
Yes that's right. In the place where it is inserted.
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Pancho
And you, by the way, in this case, do you immediately pour sugar or at the end a little bit?
When it's already beating well, I add a spoon and so that each spoon is well mixed. And be sure to open the lid, otherwise the eggs do not have enough oxygen.




Quote: Paul I

And how is oxygen starvation expressed in eggs?
The mass does not rise well.
You can conduct an experiment: whisk with the lid closed, and then open it and watch the mass explode upward.
Miranda
Quote: Paul I
Kenwood's lid is not sealed at all

I would say - not completely sealed.

It would be airtight if the rubber gasket, and the lid was still screwed on. But even without all this there are no gaps. At least for me.

She has a different task - splash protection.

Even in induction, it keeps heat and does not let in a draft, which is important during proofing. It fogs up at high temperatures just like that.

And in pairs, when cooking with temperature, you can see where the steam is looking for a hole - it doesn't go anywhere. It barely oozes, and even then in uneven jerks, apparently, when it is going, where is the motor circle. Therefore, I microscopically open the window, put a match, because the steam must go somewhere so that there is no pressure. Tea is not a multicooker-pressure cooker.
LisaNeAlisa
Quote: Paul I
Kenwood's lid is not at all sealed and cannot restrict the air flow ...
Apparently, the eggs need more air, the essence of whipping is oxygen saturation.
zvezda
Girls!! I can't reread everything again now: girl_curtsey: tell me !!! Nozzles from 020 to 094 will all fit ???
LisaNeAlisa
Olga, Yes of course.
Rituslya
Quote: Bijou
It's very touching to hear these words from you
yes, of course I am a crazy person, but not enough to borrow and get into loans.
And now, after a year, I can say with confidence that I can do without induction. The most demanded for me is Boshik Mumchik: small, energetic, problem-free!
Until you unfold the same bandura, you will find the attachment, you will wash the bowl! ...
And I can cook pasta on the stove.
So I'm trying to sell 30 thousand, but my husband squeals.
Paul I
Quote: Svetka-Vetka
And there is an opportunity to buy SENSE KVL6030T for inexpensive now,
Inexpensive, how much is it? And what nozzles are included in the indicated amount.
Personally, the "small" Sens is enough for me. It was purchased for a special offer at a price of 6 attachments + 2 in a set for 45,000 rubles. This is what you need to build on. Will you be able to buy the same set of nozzles from your sister for about the same money, then it's worth it.
Rituslya
Quote: Svetka-Vetka
I just fell for Kenwood and that's it ... passion probably ...
Yes, not a passion, but a general excitement + advertising-trade engine, mln.



Added Saturday 08 Oct 2016 10:14 PM

I'm here in Boshik kneading minced meat for sausage. That's right literally up to white threads. I thought this expression was just, as they say, for a catchphrase and only for Ken, but no. Straight white threads appeared!
zvezda
Quote: Miranda
While on the other hand
Miranda!!! What golden bright thoughts !!!! : a-kiss: as I myself did not think of it, of course it is necessary to take it, and sell these !!!!!
Bijou
Quote: Svetka-Vetka
I wanted induction, because I bake. I just imagined how many things I could try to make a new one ..
I wanted to have fun with chocolate ...
Damn it ... If work is a means of production, it's worth investing. ((And what kind of stove is in the house? If it is gas, then induction is generally a beauty.
Quote: Svetka-Vetka
I am alone with my little daughter, I work a little from home.
Kenwood Kitchen Machines What is it ... (((

And you know what ... I probably wouldn't buy Sens from my sister for 25. More precisely, no, not like that.
If you think that it will help you make money on induction, then yes. And if just so it was - then I would be sorry for the money. For you, this is an intermediate option, it seems to me. No?
Have you watched with your sister how induction works? Exactly right for you?

It is difficult to predict how much it will cost. The price for Senses is generally inadequate. If there is a new induction in this style, then the prospects are vague, there you will not manage sixty thousand. ((There is the same size in Yulmart 020 40-45 thousand, so there is at least a higher power. And for Sens from 60 they ask for a lower power. : - Well, the new model seems to have come out with the same money, and the power is higher.
In short, the devil will break his leg ... I have no advice for you. The fact that you are trying to earn extra money by baking confuses all my cards ...



Added Saturday 08 Oct 2016 10:59 PM

Quote: Rituslya
And Ken? ... I’m even too lazy to turn him over. He's so healthy, and I don't cook anything special in him
So, by and large, it confused me.
I spread the choux pastry with a spoon from a 4.7 cup and even this bowl is too big for me, it is not very convenient to grab it from the bottom. I wash it three times a day, just to the depth of the shell it becomes fine, it's not difficult at all. A deep bowl of soap would be less comfortable and would probably avoid getting dirty again.

Quote: Rituslya
So I'm trying to sell 30 thousand, but my husband squeals.
No, well, this is already too much ... Let it be! It's like a Cadillac in the garage - it seems like there is no need, but it warms the soul.
Peter Push
Quote: Rituslya
So I'm trying to sell 30 thousand, but my husband squeals.
Rituslya, Rita, no, that's not how things are done, the new one costs 60 (I mean the Titanium Sens model), then anyone will scream. And I think, where is our Rituslya, well, I did not drop a word about the new model ... In general, I am glad that you returned to your family, to work, to the team!

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