TatianaSa
I saw princesses on taobao and eat on Amazon too. In China they have a different name. In China, a princess's outfit costs 786 rubles, it seems, I don't remember exactly, but something up to a thousand.
Sandy
Quote: Mirabel
I can help you with Princesses too

Thank you Vika is not convenient to disturb.

They promised me that the Princess should appear. But no, I'll buy Fagor (pick it up tomorrow) I'll be almost a pioneer. Although the girls praised him on page 5. I need to right now, and we are leaving for the dacha that week, I wanted to take with me

If Fagor doesn't like it, then we can also buy the Princess.
Mirabel
Sandy, Good luck "You will like everything! Adapt! Do not compare yourself with European aunts.
Sandy
Quote: TatianaSa

Sandy, and where you have it? Can I help with the shipment of the princess?
Oh Tanya, I'm sorry I didn't see the message thanks for participating
Sandy
Quote: Mirabel
Sandy, Good luck "You will like everything! Adapt! Do not compare yourself with European aunts.

Thanks. Hopefully.
Tomorrow I will pick it up, try it and report back. I really don’t know where to start ..... maybe the pie is sweet, yeast with apples.
Sandy
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Sandy
I did not take Fagor, it was postponed indefinitely and is no longer available on the site.
Here's a trusted store, they told you to pick it up today, but now wait ...
Manna
Sandy, well, you feel that it's not fate with Fagor
Mirabel
Sandy, Do not worry! everything is done for the best!
TatianaSa
And to be honest, I do not like the fact that the top of it burns in the center.
Sandy
Yes, girls, I was not particularly upset ... just ridiculous. We will wait until the princesses appear.

Quote: TatianaSa
And to be honest, I do not like the fact that the top of it burns in the center.

The top burns if the cake is high and rests against the top lid, this is the case in everyone, especially with an open heating element.

tigra-tigrica
Princeski will be in 1-2 weeks. Regarding Fagora, I called a couple of stores today (I had to call back today) - in one there is no, in the other there is no connection with the supplier. They promised to call back tomorrow.
Bottling
See which pizza maker I found 🔗
Mirabel
BottlingWhat an expensive one! somewhere we saw up to 80-90 euros.
Babushka
Sandy, searched with shape and stone ... It looks like this is it:
Equipment
Pizzepechka
Form for pizza
Pizza stone
User guide
TatianaSa
I was looking for this with a shape and a stone, but this pizza maker has a maximum temperature of only 250 degrees. And for pizza, it should be higher. I found the best option for myself Ferrari fantasy. Both stone and shape and temperature are 390. But shipping will cost 2 times more than the stove itself
Babushka
Tatyana, oops, I'm sorry. I agree, the temperature is low. And "the average pizza preparation time is only 6 - 8 minutes" confuses too.
TatianaSa
Yesterday I made pizza not on pyrolysis in the oven, but at 250 degrees. For 6-8 minutes I was not ready for it. So this is really suspicious. And Ferrari somehow inspires more confidence. The price of the fantasy is 49 euros, the delivery is 100. This is such a little bird.
Masinen
So this is Bim ka stove!
I don't think it takes 8 minutes with a stone. Max 5 minutes will bake, 100 percent!
Playful
So it seems that when baking on a stone at 250 degrees, the temperature rises precisely due to the stone and bakes much faster. I also looked after a stone and a max rate of 250, but still in thought. I got 2 forms for baking pizza, it is very convenient to roll out the dough directly into them and spread the filling. But I still rave about the pizza maker and think about whether or not I need it ..
Irina F
Girls! Does anyone have a Marcato pizza maker? Maybe it was already discussed, but I haven't seen it?
Sandy
Fagor promise I will wait at the end of the month
Mirabel
IRINAIt was as if someone had her here for a large sum. Take a look at a few pages above.
Eleanor
I have Fagor for about five years for sure ... I like it, but I don't often use it, because if often, then there is a problem with the figure, and with frequent use of this device, I won't get through the door ... at Daewoo's dacha plows. I also like it very much, which one I can't say better, both my friends are hard workers)))
Roza_Irina
Quote: Irina F

Girls! Does anyone have a Marcato pizza maker? Maybe it was already discussed, but I haven't seen it?
I have Marcato. Already loved her. One drawback for me: only 3.5 cm to the reflector. Tall pizza or focaccia cannot be cooked. But now we have pizza on the table almost every day.
Sandy
Quote: Eleanor
I have Fagor for five years for sure ... I like it,
Eleanor thanks for responding
I would like to hear real feedback about Fagor, you can ask a few questions
1. What is the height inside? that is, how high is the cake really to bake?
2. How is the coverage?
3. How does it fry evenly from the top and bottom? Or some kind of plate warms more?
4. How long does pizza bake?
5. Is the rim on the cake imprinted from the top plate?

Does it also turn out that the top plate is smaller than the bottom one?

What time did I write ...
Eleanor
I bought it five years ago ... the Fagor pizza oven. They were of different diameters, it seems 24 and 28 cm, I took, as usual, more. I didn't bake pies in it, to be honest, maybe this is a different pizza oven? The pizza is baked in it instantly, right there, there is a slider on the switch, you put it on a certain time and she calls that everything is ready. I didn't think about the problem of baking a cake. Now it occurred to me that yes, it is possible, probably, but it will be subtle. Nothing is printed, because it is absolutely the same size. Both the top and bottom plates. non-stick coating, nothing burned for me. everything is even. As for the cake, I would make khachapuri in it, it has now occurred to me, I will have to try it somehow, fuss less than with the oven. And I don't like it in a frying pan. It turns out that on phagora I will get exactly those khachapuri that I love, like in a frying pan ... and no problems. But regarding the company, I can say that it is of high quality and no problems, simple and reliable. The coating, by the way, is very good, persistent, because I don't bother too much, I can even touch something somewhere ... there are no scratches yet. But when they got it, they made pizza all the time. My hair was already standing on end, because there are three girls in the family, a grandmother, a mother, a daughter, ... the figures are crawling ...
Sandy
Eleanor, Thank you

Fagor you have https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=457.1360 or other ?

And what is your power?
Eleanor
Yes, that is. The only difference is that the rotary element on the switch seems to be of a different color, not red, no, I'll go and take a look ... I looked, exactly, the turn signal is not red but yellow. diameter 28 cm, power 920, I read this on the back side, because I have not saved any documents already ... I looked at the pictures on your link, wow, people even install a baking dish there, you have to try .... excellent thought however!
fly tsetse
Rada-dms, can I link to Optima?
Girls, and who knows what the max. temperature in Bella-Italia?
Sandy
Quote: Eleanor
Yes, that is.

Eleanor Great
And please measure the height inside To know what height you need to buy a silicone mold
Eleanor
well, I can no longer do this .... I am already pulling it back and forth, it is removed, until better times, that is, for the holidays - family gatherings, only I pushed it back ... again, pull out all the belongings. .. can then buy the form ... after the stove itself ...
Margit
In our villages, they still bake in ovens, this is the best pizza oven, but the locals don't even know about it.
Peremyachki with meat and potatoes

Pizza ovenPizza ovenPizza oven
Rada-dms
fly tsetseI'll send it tomorrow, I'm not at home :)
elenvass
Quote: Margit
In our villages, they still bake in ovens, this is the best pizza oven, but the locals don't even know about it.
Peremyachki with meat and potatoes
Margit, Margarita, oh, what a beauty! Is this a barbecue oven on the street or in the house? Are peremyachi baked like that too? I always thought they were fried in oil. And the number in the first photo is impressive
Sandy
Quote: Eleanor
well, that I can no longer do.

Well then, sorry to bother you, I didn't think it was so difficult for you.
thanks for answers
Manna
Quote: Eleanor
Nothing is printed, because it is absolutely the same size.
Strange: Natalie's photos clearly show the groove from the lid
Sandy
Mannochka, yes, you can clearly see if the plates were like in the Princess, there would be no groove, but here you can clearly see that the upper plate goes into the lower one. Well, I’ll buy anything and report in detail, we will learn about the groove on the pie. I'll bake the cake right away
Just a long wait
Even the pizza shows:

Pizza oven
Manna
Quote: Sandy
Just a long wait
Nothing, but how many recipes can be imagined during this time
Sandy
Aha, and doubt again, doubt ... doubt th .................... ...
tsetse fly
Quote: Rada-dms
fly tsetse, tomorrow I'll send it, I'm not at home :)
Good! Why didn't you manage to order directly from Italy? After all, according to the link that you posted earlier

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delivery to the Russian Federation, 25 EUR are indicated.
Margit
Quote: elenvass
Margit, Margarita, oh, what a beauty! Is this a barbecue oven on the street or in the house? Are peremyachi baked like that too? I always thought they were fried in oil. And the number in the first photo is impressive
Elena, this stove is in the house, many have such a stove. The other day a family friend came to visit us, he himself lives not far from Kazan, in the village, and works here. Husband, let's praise me, what kind of pizza I began to bake on stone. And he with a smile: and I myself bake pizza in the oven, from the remnants of dough, when my wife bakes bread, 2-3 minutes of business.
elenvass
Quote: Margit
And the one with a smile: and I myself bake pizza in the oven, from the remnants of dough, when my wife bakes bread, 2-3 minutes of business.
Oh god what a man
TatianaSa
Quote: tsetse fly

Good! Why didn't you manage to order directly from Italy? After all, according to the link that you posted earlier

🔗

delivery to the Russian Federation, 25 EUR are indicated.
and me delivery from Italy counted almost 100 euros.
elenvass
Dear experienced shopaholics, explain to me, please, this link says "VAT: 22.0% (included in the price indicated in the announcement).", But shouldn't the seller remove VAT?
Sens
Quote: elenvass

Dear experienced shopaholics, explain to me, please, this link says "VAT: 22.0% (included in the price indicated in the announcement).", But shouldn't the seller remove VAT?
Where is this on the page?
TatianaSa
Some shops clean up and some don't.
elenvass
Sens, in the payment and shipping section after "Internal order processing time", it also says "If you have questions about VAT, please contact the seller. Actual VAT may vary depending on the final selling price."
TatianaSa
I contacted the seller first. He said there is no problem with the tax deduction. There was an Italian store.
elenvass
Tatyana, so you tried to order from the link and it did not work?

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