Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food

[Maria]

Maria, I bought two years ago. There were 1,500 in the region. Now, I looked about 2 thousand worth.
And there is a video of them on YouTube

[Yulia]

Yulia, and you can throw me a link, thanks!

I reread it, but did not find information: helps to fight mold in the bathroom? Maybe someone experimented, please respond!

experiments were successful
Well, kaneshna, it took a lot of time, effort and additional improvised means. A steam cleaner, a domestos and a toothbrush were involved. The mold was first killed, so I think its color and texture changed. And then it was washed with the help of available tools. Periodically I treat the problem area with an ozonizer, it is no longer observed in this place.

experiments were

class !!! I'll know!

That's what I found. 🔗... Now I don’t know which one to choose. Dear, roofing felts cheap. And you need, oh, how you need it. Studio apartment, all the smells of frying, cooking in the room.

[Maria]

Maria, I apologize, only now I saw the request (
Is the link still relevant? Did you mean on YouTube?

[Yulia]

Yulia, to the store))

Ahh, I see, Semyon Semyonitch))
Masha, I bought for a long time 2-3 years ago, I don't remember where ((
You type the device "Sun OUFK-01" into the search engine, and you will already select by the parameters that suit you

Hello!
Does anyone have an "Altai" ozonizer-ionizer? If so, what are your impressions and feedback?

So no one has. It's sad :) So I have to be a pioneer again :) Already ordered.
Another question for everyone who has any ozonizers, especially for several years. Have you noticed an increase in accidents in your apartment or house during the period of operation of your ozonizers? Did the pipes burst, did the electronics fail, or any other damage related to the equipment? Or is it just another "horror story" about ozonizers, that they damage metal, disable electronics?

Most likely, another horror story. What fright should the pipes break through? I do not use it often, I did not notice the harmfulness. I am very pleased that there is such a thing in the house.

Most likely, another horror story. What fright should the pipes break through?

Yes, in the network I met materials where they write that, they say, ozone destroys metal and disables electronics.
In principle, I did not have an ozonizer, but I had a Super-plus-turbo ionizer, which, during the ionization process, released a large amount of ozone, worked for several years, everything is also in order with the pipes) But the multicooker once failed, then I did not connect these events, and then, when I came across this material on the net, I was on my guard :)
But all the same, how many years the ionizer was, I have never been sick for so many years, 2 years after the ionizer broke down I managed to get sick with acute respiratory infections twice in the spring. Therefore, I consider this thing very useful, and decided to buy it anyway, but just in case, ask around, so to speak, to collect statistics.

Do not forget that the water in aquariums is also ozonized. And nothing, tanks with fish are intact.

The "Altai" ozonizer-ionizer finally came to me yesterday. I've been testing for two days. True, yesterday I ozonized-ionized all the rooms in the apartment. Altai copes with this work with a bang. Didn't even expect it. The previous ionizer Super-turbo-plus is clearly inferior to Altai.If after the super-turbo-plus in the apartment there was a smell like after quartzing, then after Altai the air in the apartment is as close to natural as possible! Very nice and fresh. And I went into the apartment today from the street, I open the front door to the apartment, and suddenly I breathed in freshness, I paused in surprise. Very nice!
I have not ozonized the products yet, I have ozonized the water today, the water is really getting some kind of tasty and clean, although yesterday I ozonized a glass of water for the dough right after purchase, dripped iodine into it until the color of tea, and began to ozonize. The water was discolored though not very quickly, which puzzled me a little, it was ozonized for at least 10 minutes, that's for sure. Then, in order not to pour out the water in vain, I decided to rinse my mouth. The medicine turned out to be))
The teeth immediately became rough)) True, then they quickly recovered, they became smooth again)) Well, from the products today, the purchased bread was zoned. This year we have some kind of nonsense with bread. I have not eaten bread for several years, but this year I resumed it, and I noticed that if before the bread was covered with mold during storage, it bloomed, then this year, it kind of softens, and an unpleasant smell appears, and the crumb begins to turn into a slurry. In short, a very unpleasant sight, and everything starts the very next day, but you can still eat, but on the third day everything is over, it is better not to eat. Now I have zoned him, we will look at his behavior in the next 2-3 days. I zoned it without calculating it, I had to zonate it early, and I started eating it right before the meal. A very unusual freshness of the bread came out, it was unusual to eat)) In general, I am satisfied with the purchase of the ozonizer, we will continue to test it.

then this year, it kind of softens, and an unpleasant smell appears, and the pulp begins to turn into slime.

it is a potato fungus. flour disease.

it is a potato fungus. flour disease.

Is there even such bread?

Is there even such bread?

Diseases of bread (potato, mold, chalk, pigment, drunk bread)

Diseases of bread (potato, mold, chalk, pigment, drunk bread)

Thank you!)
What can you do? How many I buy bread, and in different stores, all are ((
Switch to rye? I don't always want to))

The previous ionizer Super-turbo-plus is clearly inferior to Altai. If after the super-turbo-plus in the apartment there was a smell like after quartzing, then after Altai the air in the apartment is as close to natural as possible! Very nice and fresh. And I went into the apartment today from the street, I open the front door to the apartment, and suddenly I breathed in freshness, I paused in surprise.

Some kind of contradiction.
Super-turbo is not an ozonator at all, but an air purifier. Its ozone production is rather a harmful by-product that cannot be eliminated due to corona discharge. And in your words, its by-product ozone was much more active than that of the Altai ozonizer itself? After all when quartzing, it smells like ozonewhen hard ultraviolet light forms it from oxygen. And here you seem to have an ozonizer, but there is no smell of ozone. Hike, it doesn't work?))

Some kind of contradiction.

I'll try to explain. You all wrote correctly that Super-plus-turbo is an ionizer, and they have ozone as a by-product. But they do not like to focus on this, calling their device a purely ionizer. But, according to FACT, their device is an ionizer-ozonizer, only this second function is their hidden ozonation. More precisely, I now had one of their early models - there were two modes. One mode, as they wrote, is the air ionization mode, and the second mode is the air purification mode, trying not to write about ozone once again, although the second mode is essentially the ozonation mode. It's just a very intense ozone flow. All.They did not write anything else, did not write any safety precautions or how to use, the only thing that was written was that it was forbidden to hold the device less than 1.5 meters. And that's all. So I used it, at the end of the 2000s, I don't really know anything about ozone or its negative consequences, I turned it on blindly and was at the same time indoors. And I didn't really know exactly when to turn on the first mode, when the second. I only noticed that the smell after operating the device was far from the smell after a thunderstorm or in the mountains, as they wrote in the instructions, the smell was as banal after quartzing.
With Altai, the story turned out to be different. Here, firstly, I have already "grounded" in the knowledge of what ozone is and how to "use" it)), and secondly, they gave clearer instructions on how to use the device, and the device itself is designed in an interesting way, that it allows you to use the device exactly according to the instructions. That is, the point is, ozone is really a rather poisonous gas, killing a lot of things and thus purifying, it is essentially a natural purifier, nature is purified by ozone. But ozone in large quantities can harm our body, although, in small quantities, it is also useful. But, since it is difficult to determine the boundary, the criterion where the benefit ends and the harm begins, there is a certain safety technique, which consists in not entering the room that was subjected to ozonation for half an hour, during these half an hour ozone begins to decompose and turn into ordinary oxygen ... But, in nature, ozone is not the only purifier, although, perhaps, the main one, as in my opinion. There are also ions in nature, but they clean using a different technology, without killing, so to speak. But that’s not the point. "Altai" is constructed in such an interesting way that the ozonation function itself does not work separately there. After connecting the device to the network, first the button turns on the ionization mode, and then the timer sets the ozonation mode. Well, for example, I set the ozonation mode for 20 minutes, and left the room, looked at the time, because, do you remember? - it is advisable not to enter the room in the next 30 minutes after the ozonation operation, and so, when these 20 minutes of ozonization are over, this mode is automatically turned off, but the device continues to work already in the ionization mode, and for a very long time, until you come and turn off the corresponding button , or unplug the power cord. And ions, by the way, also contribute to the fastest transition of ozone into oxygen. Well, I don’t know why such an effect arises, perhaps from this combination: "ozonation-ionization" creates such an atmosphere in the room, close to nature, and not as rough as after quartzing, like in Super-plus-turbo. Perhaps the Super-plus-turbo would have such an atmosphere if I used it according to exactly the same instructions, first ozonation, and then, at least another half hour after that ionization. Although, even in the first mode, with a seemingly ionization mode, ozone was still released in the Super-plus-turbo, just not so clearly, not in such a large amount as in the second mode. But in Altai, with the "Ionization" mode, the smell of ozone is not felt at all, I just turned it on for an experiment in an ordinary room that was not treated with ozone, and now it worked for more than an hour, well, absolutely no smell, you only slightly feel freshness. That is, a real ionization mode without ozone, although ozone is probably released, but in such a small amount that you simply cannot feel it, well, it is very different from the Super-plus-turbo. And when you were Super, you enter the apartment from the street, if he recently worked, this smell of quartzing immediately overwhelms you, but with Altai it is precisely the smell of freshness, natural freshness. You see, when you enter a room when Altai is operating in ozone mode, then the room also has a clear smell of ozone, when I talk about the smell that is as close as possible to natural freshness, I mean the already completed cycle of the device: ozonation, and then, how at least 30 minutes of ionization. Perhaps it also depends on the operating time of the ozonation mode, I noticed that if you want a natural smell, you don't have to chase time, like the more the better, no, here you have to "catch" the norm. To be honest, I haven't caught it yet, but I already felt it.In the network I found the form of the ozonation regime, which consists in the formula: one square meter is a minute of ozonation. So, I noticed that this formula does not quite work for a pleasant "natural" smell. Here I have a room - 18 square meters, I give 20 minutes, obviously too much. Another room - 13 square meters - I give 15 minutes of ozonation - an excellent result, you enter like some natural oasis, it's so nice to be there. I feel that for the first room, despite the footage, we must also give 15 minutes, well, we will still experience it)) Although, anyway, if more time passes, then this smell becomes more pleasant, well, ozone turns into oxygen, and together with him and his smell becomes less. Well, I don't know if I explained clearly, if you understood, but I tried))

Thank you!)
What can you do? How many I buy bread, and in different stores, all are ((
Switch to rye? I don't always want to))

a strange question for a visitor of bread, bake yourself!

a strange question for a visitor of bread, bake yourself!

So baked before :)))
Why did I stop baking? In general, I am not a fan of high-grade flour breads. And purchased and his own. It seems to me some kind of artificial tasty, something he has not natural)) Well, these are subjective sensations, but mine)) So, when I baked myself, I baked from first grade flour, everything worked out great, I really liked , I baked bread with yeast, and even with sourdough, and it turned out very tasty, everyone liked sourdough bread. And then such nonsense began with him, as I wrote you a story with a purchased one. And in our city, I have already heard such stories from people with purchased bread, at one time many people complained, even bought fresh bread, brought it home, began to cut, and there was a slurry. And they said that it was a disease of flour, some kind of potato disease, that is, I was, as it were, in the know then. And after a while, I suddenly had such a trouble. And we had a small choice of first-grade flour, or rather, there was none at all. One manufacturer, and two places in the city where it was sold: Privoz and the central market. Well, that is, there was nothing to do, I "got caught" several times in a row with flour, and realized that it was no longer worth buying. I didn't like the bought bread, and, in short, I stopped eating bread altogether. So several years passed. Well, it's already 2.5 years since we moved to Russia, well, maybe a year before that, a year or half a year, something like this. And this year, something again was drawn to bread, and then I saw first grade bread on sale in stores, just what I loved, I began to buy, but he has such a problem. But quite a lot of time has passed, and I thought, maybe it's such new yeast that has gone that give such a reaction? Well, most likely, this is potato flour disease, but we have the same flour, in fact, that I will buy it on the market, that the bakeries buy from the same manufacturer. I'm just surprised, so much time has passed, and the trouble has remained. Previously, such a problem was with the premium flour, it did not concern me, but people complained. Now people do not complain, which means they have solved the problem with the premium flour, but with the first grade, it seems they do not want to solve it. It is clear that the demand for it is much less than for premium flour. It's just that I used to bake bread with first-grade flour for so many years and everything was great, and then they lost their mind, it's a shame)). We'll probably have to switch to dark bread, although not a special lover, sometimes you just want white.

[Wanderer]

Wanderer, I see, thanks.
It turns out that this Altai is more an ionizer than an ozonizer? Although I poorly understand the difference and their principle of operation, alas. Although I once sincerely tried to figure it out ...
Does it have dust-collecting plates like Turbo? Or how should the ionized dust be captured?

Does it have dust-collecting plates like Turbo? Or how should the ionized dust be captured?

Interest Ask)). He was very, very interested in me.When I was in the search and selection mode, I called them all and "tortured" them on these issues, well, as I understand it, none of them really knows, all are essentially sellers, it is only possible to find out such questions from manufacturers, so where find them and how to talk to them, that is the question. No, it does not have dust-depositing plates, which, on the one hand, was incomprehensible to me, on the other hand, it was a little pleasant, since you don't need any fuss with them, you don't need to clean them, you don't need to wash them, as I suffered with the Super-plus turbo, this, they say, the latest models are already easier for them, they just wash, and the early models were cleaned quite hard, there the distances between the plates were very narrow, and there it was necessary to reach with a brush, wash, clean, the size of the brush did not allow to do it efficiently, for I had a little torment to mess with them. Well, in principle, these plates are just a design decision of the Super-plus turbo developers, to stretch air through the plates, the essence of the cleaning effect of ions is essentially different, they do not need to be passed through, negative ions simply attract those in the air positive dust particles, and deposit them on the surface. Here is the mechanism of the cleaning action of negative ions. There is no such thing with Altai, there is no need to clean it, not to wash it, how it works is a mystery to me, but it works, for the third evening I have, I definitely feel freshness coming from it in ionization mode. And what works better for him, ionization or ozonation, I find it difficult to say so far. At first I myself did not really like that his ozonation could not work without ionization, well, then I thought, maybe thanks to this, he gets such a mild effect than from the work of purely ozonizers, or even, the same Super-plus -turbo, although the latter too, it turns out worked with a dual function. Well, I don’t know, but in fact, this is how it is, and I am writing. There you get pure ozonation, you can only carry out food, or a refrigerator, or a bathroom with a toilet. Although, here is the ozonation of products, when ozonation of products goes through the tube, part of the ozone still goes into the air, and here the ionization mode works at the same time, ions do not go through the tube into the container where the ozonation of the products is carried out, they are released through other openings into the room where ozonation of products is carried out, and which, destroying ozone, in some way neutralize its negative effect on the human body who is nearby at this time, that is, there are also positive aspects. Well, this is the design decision of Altai developers.
Well, these are all my only first impressions at the end of three days of Altai's stay at my house. Perhaps more complete knowledge and understanding of his work will come in the future. So far I like him. The only not very pleasant moment for me in the device is its rather noisy operation, although they told me on the phone that it works silently. I don’t know, maybe I came across such a defective one, I don’t know, but it is still working, it performs its declared functions. I mean the noise in the ionization mode, in the ozonation mode it works even louder, I would say indecently loud)) In the ionization mode it is quieter, of course, but far from silent, if the TV is working, for example, then the noise of the ozonator is not audible, but if there is natural silence in the room, then the sound can be annoying at certain moments)), if you are at the same time in a contemplative state)), if you go about your business, you do not notice the noise. But I would not want to sleep with this noise)). The same Super-Turbo Plus was really silent. I don’t know, of course, maybe this is from habit, then it will get used to it)) In all other aspects, I still like Altai. More than a Super-turbo-plus, I still have it, but it's broken, I wanted to repair it, and now I think I won't, it's just that it is clearly inferior to Altai.

Although, here is the ozonation of products, when ozonation of products goes through the tube, part of the ozone still goes into the air, and here the ionization mode works at the same time, ions do not go through the tube into the container where the ozonation of the products is carried out, they are released through other openings into the room where ozonation of products is carried out, and which, destroying ozone, in some way neutralize its negative effect on the human body who is nearby at this time, that is, there are also positive aspects.

That is, the ions released by the device destroy the ozone released by the device?

In general, I have long despaired of understanding the essence of what is happening. I don't even really understand what these very negative and positive ions are, about which there is so much talk. ((Where they come from and what formula are described.

That is, the ions emitted by the device destroy the ozone emitted by the device?

Yes. But these are not design features of the device, these are design features of "Nature"))

In general, I have long despaired of understanding the essence of what is happening. I don't even really understand what these very negative and positive ions are, about which there is so much talk. ((Where they come from and what formula are described.

And this, unfortunately, lies beyond my competence and knowledge). I myself do not understand what it is, where they come from and what formula are described, the latter is especially for me to the bulb)) I am a simple consumer, for me the main thing is the result, the final product, whether it is necessary for me, useful, etc. Otherwise, you can bury yourself, studying every subject that you use)) There will not be enough time or energy))
In general, this whole movement began with the discovery of the beneficial properties of negative ions by the Soviet scientist Chizhevsky, on the basis of his discoveries he created the first device, named after his name - the Chizhevsky chandelier. With his repression and death, this topic died out, and only a few decades later came to life again, already other scientists were engaged in these developments, on the basis of which ionizers began to be created in the beginning, and then ozonizers. So, I think, if you really want to study this issue, perhaps you should start with Chizhevsky.

I am looking for an ozonizer for myself.
And in the process of searching, it turned out that it is useful to water seedlings with ozonized water. For me, this property is a real find.
I wanted the ozonizer even more!

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, Lena, if you find it at a reasonable price - write in the subject. I would buy a second one.

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, Lena, if you find it at a reasonable price - write in the subject. I would buy a second one.

Ok, Ol, I will definitely write!

In everything, a measure is needed - when the device is working, leave the room. And do not drive for hours.

In everything, a measure is needed - when the device is working, leave the room. And do not drive for hours.

Olya, I just pick up the timer to turn it on and leave.

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, but what is so harmful at home going on that you need to oxidize with ozone? ))

[alba et atra]

alba et atraLena, here I have a timer - very convenient, turned it on for 10-15 minutes, and left the room.

In order not to write the same thing again, we reread the topic from the beginning.

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, but what is so harmful at home going on that you need to oxidize with ozone? ))

Len, so curious!
I now water the seedlings with melt water and water with a tea mushroom. So maybe ozonation will replace all this for me?
And fruits and vegetables are interesting to process, since they promise that they will be better stored.

here I have a timer - very convenient, turned it on for 10-15 minutes, and left

Are there any permanent ozonizers? it seems to me that everything with a timer is for a maximum of 30 minutes.

alba et atra, Lena, if you find it at a reasonable price - write in the subject. I would buy a second one.

Sorry to interfere, well, I think this information will interest you.
Of all that I was looking for, the best option in my opinion according to the scheme: price-quality, will be this one:
And it is twice cheaper than in our stores, and the model is quite high-quality, I found a lot of positive reviews about it on various resources and forums from users of this model.

Added Sunday 02 Oct 2016 11:07 PM

most likely, there was already information about the benefits and dangers of ozone, but it's better to overdo it than not enough

This is from that opera, you know, as it was said in my childhood that a drop of nicotine kills a horse, so what about people. But show me at least one person who was killed by a drop of nicotine)). Only in theory, it turns out that the human body is so structured that it tries to survive very much)) Simply, the absorption of nicotine in the body occurs in such a way that the process of killing the body itself becomes impossible, that is, gradually, and it can only kill if it is instantly absorbed. And in recent years, new discoveries of scientists have been made, according to which nicotine is very beneficial, it improves brain activity, strengthens memory, etc., etc. It brings a lot of benefits, do you think a smoker just wants to smoke? I smoked myself in my youth, and I can say for sure that smoking helped a lot before work, where you had to concentrate strongly. And nicotine brings only one harm, or rather it can do it - this is the ability to kill the body, but, as I wrote above, this is simply impossible. And the harm in cigarettes, it turns out, is not caused by nicotine, but by tar, so they really kill the body, only not instantly, as nicotine could do under ideal conditions, but gradually. And poor smokers, preoccupied with their health, but unable to quit a bad habit, following advertising, switch to lightweight cigarettes, thereby only worsening their health, since lightweight cigarettes make a small amount of nicotine (which is why they are called lightweight), but on the other hand an increased amount of tar, which really harm the body, and which, by the way, is smaller in strong cigarettes)). Here is such a paradox.
So yes, in theory, ozone is really capable of causing harm to the body, only in the article given at your link, it is not said about its amount in which it is capable of causing harm, and this is a very large amount, and household ozonizers are simply not capable of producing such an amount ... In small amounts, ozone, on the contrary, is very useful for the human body. In nature, during a thunderstorm, much more ozone is emitted in the atmosphere than in household ozonizers, but nevertheless, all people strive to seize the moment and breathe air at this moment, open windows in apartments after a thunderstorm, if not cold, etc. And do not die)) And do not get sick)) On the contrary, they get a big boost of vivacity. Also, this charge of vivacity is given by a household ozonizer, I tell you this not by hearsay, but as the owner of a household ozonizer :)
And the specified article has all the signs of a custom article. When I was deciding for myself the question of the need to purchase an ozonizer, I scoured a lot of information on the net, and I can tell you that there is a certain competitive struggle of certain forces, which the ozonizers also got into. I do not know if the medical mafias are involved in it, but between the manufacturers of such devices, namely, ionizers - ozonizers, there is such a struggle, there are resources on the network where they enter into open polemics among themselves. And here some forces that produce ionizers that do not emit ozone blame other forces that produce ionizers that produce ozone as a by-product, and in order to defeat them, they use as the main argument that their ionizers produce ozone, which, allegedly, is very dangerous and harmful to humans. This, in general, is the reason for the appearance on the network of various ordered articles on the harm of ozone. We must not forget that we are living in an age of information warfare and technology. Don't worry, the household ozonizer will not harm you, only benefit.The main criterion is how your body perceives the smell of ozone, if it is pleasant to it, then everything is fine and good, if not, then it is better to observe safety precautions, which consists in not being in the room during the operation of the ozonizer + 30 minutes after its operation ... All household ozonizers are produced specially with a timer, so that you have the opportunity not to enter or turn off the ozonator manually, after the time that you set, the ozonator will turn off by itself, you just have to wait another 30 minutes from the time the ozonator was turned off. Be healthy!

Added Sunday 02 Oct 2016 11:25 PM

And fruits and vegetables are interesting to process, since they promise that they will be better stored.

I already have experience in ozonizing fruits - plums and grapes. I bought a normal grape, but I bought a plum on the verge, it was very overripe, it was already starting to deteriorate, I just tried it, it is sweet as honey, besides I bought an ozonizer, I decided to try, test it. I took it, zoned in the evening at night looking, before ozonation, midges began to appear over the plum, zoned, the plum is wet, do not put it in the wet in the refrigerator, left it to dry on the table until morning, not in a plate, but in a metal mesh, got up in the morning, and the plum, as well as the grapes, has an excellent presentation, as it has poured out with juice, and, most importantly, there is not a single midge above it)). The only thing that lay in the refrigerator for two days did not deteriorate, in this form the drain in the refrigerator without an ozonator would have already spoiled with might and main. For this I can't tell you a change in taste, that before that it was sweet, that after that it was sweet) Here is a change in the taste of the Adyghe cheese, which I bought in Ashan, I noticed, the taste has improved significantly, right up to the level of the market one. During ozonation, a large amount of mucus was also released, as in the ozonation of meat, the only difference was that this mucus was more tender than during ozonation of meat.

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So yes, in theory, ozone is really capable of causing harm to the body, only in the article given at your link, it is not said about its amount in which it is capable of causing harm, and this is a very large amount, and household ozonizers are simply not capable of producing such an amount ...

everyone decides for himself - to smoke a lot or a little, to ozonize your room for 10-30 minutes or all day, but this is if you live alone, and it is not humane to expose your household to obvious danger when there are scientific facts about the dangers of ozone

and why should I know exactly what amount (is it a gas ... will it be in grams? ...) of ozone is harmful, if it is written that the gas is by its nature toxic, the conclusion is that the amount is not large is not harmful - that is, the less time it will stand out, the less it will be

Don't worry, the household ozonizer will not harm you, only benefit. The main criterion is how your body perceives the smell of ozone, if it is pleasant, then everything is normal and good

focus on the sensations of the body ... something our body does not protect us from excess alcohol, from overeating, from smoking - all this he likes

the medical mafia - of course, it is - and doctors do not recommend us to smoke a lot, abuse alcohol and overeat - the mafia is

well, everyone knows how to read - they will read the article, they will read your post too - they will choose what they like

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Added on Monday, 03 Oct 2016 00:00

I also have ozonizers, I use them with pleasure, for the benefit of myself and my lady

and why should I know exactly what amount (is it a gas ... will it be in grams? ...) of ozone is harmful, if it is written that the gas is by its nature toxic, the conclusion is that the amount is not large is not harmful - that is, the less time it will stand out, the less it will be

I will probably disappoint you. And when you get sick, do you drink medicines? But all drugs are toxic, it's not for nothing that side effects and contraindications are indicated. And in general, any medicine, even very useful, becomes harmful when exceeded.That is why you need to know the amount, where the benefit ends and the harm begins, so as not to cause it, including your household. And I write so firmly, because I know the subject firsthand, from dubious articles written by someone unknown and unknown for what purpose, but a person who has this device at home and who experiences its influence on himself. And rest assured, if household ozonizers were really harmful, I beg you, they would be prohibited in production. Okay, if they were released in one country, they are released all over the world, even in the USA, where there are very serious medical criteria, where traditional medicine is prohibited at all, and where people are imprisoned for traditional medicine. If you are a champion of a healthy lifestyle, you should know the name of the world famous American doctor Shelton. Do you know, for example, that he was in prison? And specifically for the fact that he applied the methods of so-called traditional medicine in the treatment of his patients, while not harming them, according to the latter, only benefit. So, rest assured, if really household ozonizers would cause harm, they were banned in the USA, but they are produced there)) Therefore, when you study any issue, you need to start with the general, and then study the particulars, such as articles from dubious resources))

And when you get sick, do you drink medicines?

no, I don't drink before - sometimes aspirin to normalize blood pressure, now - nothing

And I write so firmly, because I know the subject firsthand, from dubious articles written by someone unknown and unknown for what purposes, but a person who has this device at home and who experiences its influence on himself.

you are as unknown to any of us as the authors of * dubious * articles

And rest assured, if household ozonizers were really harmful, I beg you, they would be prohibited in production.

then both cigarettes and alcohol would be prohibited, the same medicines you cited as an example (pistols, knives, bombs ...)

any

healthy lifestyle advocate

if you break your leg, go to the doctors

everything in moderation - and it will be fine

everything in moderation - and it will be fine

So I told you about this from the very beginning that you need to know the quantity, and this means that you have just written: "everything is in moderation and it will be fine." That's why you need to know the amount from which the harm begins)))
If you do not drink a medicine, this does not mean that your household, and all other people for whom this medicine is produced, does not mean that it is so toxic by the way))
By the way,

focus on the sensations of the body ... something our body does not protect us from excess alcohol, from overeating, from smoking - all this he likes

By the way, both from an excess of alcohol, and from overeating and from an excess of smoking, the body just becomes ill, he does not like it, you shouldn't think that he likes it, you pay for all these vices with your well-being, from an overabundance of all the factors you mentioned , the body just signals, and if a person does not understand this, then he subsequently pays a lot for it, first with a temporary health disorder, then, and maybe immediately, everything depends again on this damned amount, constant and chronic, and up to loss own life.

Again, by the way,))) I'm not such an unknown person on this forum. Some forum users know me personally, they even saw me, even some of them live in another country, even the moderator of this forum)). There is a Vika from Odessa, she saw me, I somehow came to her house, if she reads this post, she will confirm my identity to you)). So I did not write custom posts, don't worry, some people know me on this forum.

Added on Monday 03 Oct 2016 00:53

then both cigarettes and alcohol would be prohibited, the same medicines you cited as an example (pistols, knives, bombs ...)

All this is necessary for a person, everything is beneficial, therefore it is not prohibited in principle, but has restrictions on use, in particular, in the amount of use, because if this parameter is violated, they bring harm. But, since they bring not only harm, but also benefit, therefore, they are not prohibited, and the same weapons and even bombs, all of this that you have cited is actually needed, needed in order, for example, to be able to protect you from those who have this very weapon. Everything that exists, everything is really needed. And household ozonizers are needed first of all))) especially for sick people, and healthy people need it even more so as not to get sick. Good health to you.

it all depends again on this damn amount,

the amount is not large is not harmful - that is, the less time it will be allocated, the less it will be

A little bit wrong. Household ozonizers, in principle, do not emit such an amount that could harm the human body, here I can assure you that the principle you have outlined works here: it is better to overdo it than to miss it, of course by the manufacturer. Abroad, after all, this principle, unlike us, is very strictly observed, if something from the manufactured product causes harm to the consumer, any manufacturer in the West knows that he will not get off easily, the Western consumers will be provided with legal proceedings and claims for the harm caused)) ... We are not accustomed to litigation, but in the West this is a long-established practice, no ozonizers would be produced or sold there if they caused harm to the consumer.
It's just that all people are different, the state of health is different, inclinations, diseases, allergies and so on. Therefore, of course, you always have to rely on your common sense, if you do not like the smell of ozone, moreover, some signs of sneezing, coughing, tears begin, then of course you need to leave the room. Therefore, in the instructions for all household ozonizers, this aspect is stipulated, to leave the room where the ozonizer works, and enter it 30 minutes after the end of work, just during this period the ozone will decompose as much as possible and turn into ordinary oxygen, and this room will simply be enriched with increased the amount of oxygen, which has not yet been harmful to anyone, only benefit, but part of the ozone will still remain, but in such a small amount that will be useful to any consumer, even those suffering from some kind of severe allergy. Ozone completely decomposes in about two hours.
pysy: I, for example, do not worry about this safety technique at all. I personally like the smell of ozone from my ozonator, especially, of course, I am not in the room where the ozonator works - it ozonizes the air of the room for the entire period of operation of the ozonator, but if I have any need to go into the room right now, what- do it there, I calmly walk in and don't worry, I'm not afraid of anything. And when I ozonize products in water, I don't leave the ozonizer at all. And no bad health, on the contrary, I will tell you that from the moment of buying the ozonizer I feel a surge of strength, improvement of health, lack of fatigue in the evenings, even at night, you see now I am sitting and correspond with you with great enthusiasm. I feel a great burst of energy, the joy that I want to share with others, so I am sharing it with you.
Good health to you, okay, no matter how strong you are, but in the morning you have to get up early all the same, so excuse me, I'll sail away. Thank you for your communication.

Nobody wrote here for a long time ...

I found another use for my ozonizer. Began periodically ozonizing pillows and blankets so as not to wash them again. Especially with natural fillers - down, wool is not very useful for them. I don’t know if this kills any dust mites (I hope), but the smell becomes very fresh. I take the store packaging in which these pillows are sold (such transparent bags with zippers), stuff the pillow there, insert the ozonizer tube and turn it on for half an hour. Then I don't open this bag for a while, and then I air the pillow. I do all this on the balcony, I have an outlet there. It is possible, of course, in the room, but still the device works for a rather long time, and since the packaging is not sealed, it is more convenient for me to ozonize on the balcony. It is better to ozonize not just before going to bed, because at first the pillows smell rather strongly of ozone, and after airing it has a very pleasant smell. IMHO

[Galina]

Galina, thanks, I will use your experience!

Began periodically ozonizing pillows and blankets so as not to wash them again.

And I, with the same success, according to the results, ozonize the pillow every day, and not only it, but everything that can be processed in the bedroom during its processing before going to bed. When I ozonize the bedroom, I try to use it to the maximum, that is, I expose current things to wear, open a wardrobe with clothes, linen, take apart the bed, take off the pillowcase from the pillow, turn on the ozonator, and leave the bedroom.As a result, not only the air in the bedroom is processed, but and all these things also smell good afterwards. And then it is very pleasant to sleep on the pillow. It may not be as strong an impact as yours, but regularly, slowly, but every day, and the same excellent result is achieved))
And in this paragraph I am writing personally to the user under the nickname "Warrior". Excuse me, but I can't answer you in PM. I have compiled a detailed letter based on my personal experience of using the ozonizer, I am sending it to you in a personal message, but in the end it disappears safely, and I see there is no my message-answer to you either in outgoing, not in incoming, or in general. I can't understand what the matter is, it's good that I'm already a rub in this case, and kept it for myself in advance, otherwise it would be a pity, I have killed so much time according to its writing, and it would have disappeared without a trace. In short, I have a letter, I can't send you via PM - it doesn't work, your suggestions?

[if it concerns the operation of the device]

Why not open a correspondence here, for all of us, if it concerns the operation of the device - we all need experience with the ozonizer What to hide the subtleties in a personal

And why not open a correspondence here, for all of us, if this is with regards to the operation of the device - we all need experience with the ozonizer What to hide the subtleties in a personal

I don't know, really. You need to think)
Firstly, as if the text is very large, in my opinion not intended for a common thread, where everyone communicates with everyone, and secondly, it highlights some, as it were, personal aspects that you might not want to put up like this on general review)
In general, I'll think about it, maybe it will need to be corrected somehow.

That's it, we'll accept and read - only without external active links

And a large text can be removed under the spoiler

That's it, we'll accept and read - only without external active links

I sorted out the personal messages here, I just had to put a tick there, I didn't pay attention to it right away. In fact, private messages went away, they just did not appear on me.
Let me send you my letter in a personal, since you are interested. In addition, I have known you for a long time, as an experienced and respected user here. Besides, it has one external link :). I will correct it a bit in the evening and send it.

Ok, I read