MariV
Quote: Omela

The smell of tobacco from smoking neighbors in the bathroom disappears in 15 minutes of work.

And more .. I buy frozen pink salmon in AUCHAN. ozonized, then disassembled into fillets and salt. It turns out very tasty. despite. that pink salmon, by definition, is rather dry. Here you get a "live" red fish.
Ksyusha, from this place in more detail, plizz, - buy ice cream, then defrost - or? At what moment do you apply the ozonizer to the fish, and for how long?
I saw a coho salmon yesterday - well, it was so boring ... I did not dare to buy it. And if you revive it with an ozonizer?
Omela
Well, as I understand it, Natalia just for the sake of experiment conducted this experiment - whether the Ozonator works or not, and not in order to revive the cream and eat it.

Ol, yes, frozen gutted pink salmon under the Ashanov brand. Usually with a head (1.2-1.5) kg, but the last time it was large (1.9kg) and without a head. I defrost it, clean it (because then, when I separate the fillet, then the scales interfere), rinse it from the blood, into a large container and connect the ozonator for 15-20 minutes. Then I rinse and clean the meat again. It is not possible to separate beautifully, I clean it off as necessary, it suits me so well.
Chuchundrus
it never crossed my mind to eat them. The report clearly says: girl_mad: licked. This is how the desire to share knowledge with the world is killed in people.
MariV
Omela, Ksyusha,.
crueltytanya
Chuchundrusis a very revealing experiment. And they hanged the people.
Song
Quote: Chuchundrus
P.S. if messages stop coming from me

For three hours there are no messages ... I'm starting to worry ... Natasha ... Ay ... How are you there? Can the experiment be considered successful already?
I want to check on kefir ...
Chuchundrus
The flight is normal. Truncated under control What is the diagnosis of kefir?
Chuchundrus
Dear like-minded people, risking being reputed to be the main "zag * anka" Breadmakers continue to describe my research. I did not throw them out on the cream, for 3 days there were no signs of the birth of a new life! Conclusion: disinfection is done !!! This time, I did not risk my health and solemnly disposed of the experimental specimen. Disposal took place in a reliable garbage container so that no animal would be harmed.
She also processed cottage cheese bought on the market. Divided into two packages, one treated with an ozonizer, and the other not. So, after the expiration of time, the cottage cheese after processing is absolutely fresh and tasty, and the other package underwent disposal. Conclusion: now I will always ozonize. But milk tastes very different. It is made somehow sterile. I don't really like that.
Andrey74
Girls, you need to be careful with ozone. I don’t want to scare you, but in Russia ozone is assigned to the first, highest hazard class of hazardous substances (chlorine is considered less hazardous and classified to the second class) From Wikipedia:

"The high oxidizing ability of ozone and the formation of oxygen free radicals in many reactions with it determine its high toxicity.
Ozone Standards:
the maximum one-time maximum permissible concentration (MPC m. r.) in the atmospheric air of populated areas 0.16 mg / m³ [14];
the average daily maximum permissible concentration (MPC s. page) in the atmospheric air of populated areas is 0.03 mg / m³ [14];
the maximum permissible concentration (MPC) in the air of the working area is 0.1 mg / m³.
At the same time, the threshold of the human sense of smell is approximately equal to 0.01 mg / m³. [15]
Ozone effectively kills mold and bacteria.
... the proven risk of mutagenic, carcinogenic and toxic effects outweighs any theoretically possible beneficial effects ...
In the 21st century, many companies began producing so-called household ozonizers, also designed to disinfect premises (basements, rooms after viral diseases, warehouses contaminated with bacteria and fungi), often keeping silent about the precautions that are so necessary when using this technique. "
The World Health Organization (WHO) has classified ozone as a non-threshold substance, that is, any concentration of this gas in the air is dangerous to human health - it is the strongest carcinogen.

You can find the rest yourself.

Something like this.
Forewarned is forearmed!

P.S What do you think, if ozone kills mold, germs and bacteria, then how will it affect the microflora of your lungs? After all, there are the same microbes and bacteria, only "good" ones.
Chuchundrus
Andrey74,:: I stop experimenting.
Omela
Quote: Andrey74
that is, any concentration of this gas in the air is hazardous to human health.
Keywords. I think no one will breathe from the tube.
Chuchundrus
Phew,Omela, Dear person . And I began to look for white slippers for myself.
MariV
In the instructions in Russian it is very persistently written - to leave the room during the operation of the device; which, probably, everyone is doing. To do this, you need to buy with a remote control, yes.
Andrey74
Quote: Omela
Keywords. I think no one will breathe from the tube.
I agree, but where does the generated ozone go after processing the products? Dissolves into them? Or does it end up in the atmosphere of the kitchen, room?
Chuchundrus
And then I’m doing the airing.
Omela
I no longer discuss - let everyone decide for himself. A household ozonizer produces ozone that is safe for humans. Its action is confirmed by Rostest. Follow the instructions for use and everything will be OK.
Sens
Quote: Andrey74
The World Health Organization (WHO) has classified ozone as a non-threshold substance, that is, any concentration of this gas in the air is dangerous to human health - it is the strongest carcinogen.
this is either a very inaccurate quote or a fiction.
since the impact is always dependent not only on the concentration, but also on the time of exposure. however, no cases of mass destruction from the impact of atmospheric-thunderstorm ozone have been registered.

and in general, first indicate the threshold of the "maximum permissible concentration (MPC)", and then say that it does not exist:
any concentrations of this gas in the air are hazardous to health
- not very logical.

I know one aunt, she is over 70 years old, so she has not used vegetables and fruits not washed with ozone for 15 years. that is, she is constantly poisoned by this ozone, and nothing like a mare jumps in spite of her age.

and further...
Andrey74What "good microflora of the lungs" are you talking about?
Quote: Andrey74
... ozone kills mold, germs and bacteria, how will it affect your lung microflora? After all, there are the same microbes and bacteria, only "good" ones.
what is this discovery in microbiology?

Quote: Andrey74
I agree, but where does the generated ozone go after processing the products? Dissolves into them? Or does it end up in the atmosphere of the kitchen, room?
The O3 molecule is unstable and at sufficient concentrations in air under normal conditions spontaneously in a few tens of minutes
Omela
Quote: Sens

however, no cases of mass destruction from the impact of atmospheric-thunderstorm ozone have been registered.
For the sake of interest, I wentogle "cases of ozone poisoning" ... I found it only in case of damage to the oxygen cylinder in patients.
Andrey74
Quote: Omela
I no longer discuss - let everyone decide for himself.
Gold words. I only gave information, but everyone decides for himself how to dispose of it.
Sens, What is your post about? What is ozone safe?
Here's GOST 12.1.007-76 🔗 :
"1.1. According to the degree of impact on the body, harmful substances are divided into four hazard classes:
1st - extremely dangerous substances;
Maximum permissible concentration (MPC) of harmful substances in the air of the working area, mg / m3 Less than 0.1 "
And the second
GOST 12.1.005-88 🔗
Appendix 2, line 800:
800 Ozone MPC value, mg / m3 - 0.1 Hazard class - I О - substances with a highly directed mechanism of action requiring automatic control over their content in the air; "
Can you refute the GOST statement that ozone extremely dangerous? (But please, not the example with the aunt)

I finished the discussion.
Peace and love to all.
Yulya.Yalta
Dear forum users! And what brought me here yesterday, I don’t remember anymore. understand how it works. Does he just radiate something and thereby ozonize? Or does it initially draw in air and blow out the already ozonized one? And here's another question ... Initially I only wanted an ozonizer, but now I saw a model ozonator with an ionizer .... Should I take this? Who tried it?
Chef
Quote: Resident
Have you bought all the certificates and diplomas?
Do you guess that anyone who sees the word "attestats" can say the same about you?

Therefore (and not only because of this) any transitions to personalities for any reason on our forum are not allowed.

And so as not to get up twice: Natalia, pictures from the Internet cannot be entered into the Gallery

Chef
Quote: Yulya.Yalta
Or you just have nothing to do, everywhere about everything, and about nothing ...
What is highlighted in red in my post is not only addressed to Resident... Let's end the squabble.
There is a great tool for solving problems - press Report an error, clarification or violation.

Let the topic remain closed for a while.
Yulya.Yalta
I am reporting on the purchase of an ozonizer. I took it with an ionizer, like this Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food
Regarding the destruction of odors in the kitchen and in the bathroom, it works 100%! Then the truth is there is a specific smell of ozone, you need to get used to it, like an UHF cabinet in childhood. But it’s better to let it smell like that than fried fish from the neighbors ... In the bathroom it also justified itself. When the toilet dripped, I couldn't clean up the smell of the sewer with anything. I put the ozonizer on for 10 minutes - voila, the smell is gone
As for the products (ready-made). I experimented with boiled pork, posed for 2 minutes, and closed in a container (to extend the shelf life). I took it out in a day - it's impossible to eat, such a disgusting taste and smell of ozone When I ozonized the refrigerator inside, the air got into the oil can, I had to throw out the oil for the same reason
When I ozonize raw products before heat treatment (meat, vegetables), everything is good, it turns out really tastier (subjectively, perhaps it just seems). Peeled and cut apples are also quite suitable for food after ozone.
The TDS meter came today. I decided to test the water before and after ozone. The same eggs are a side view ... As it was in the tap water 65, it remains so I don't know what it cleans up there, a controversial issue ... I wish I could use another nitratometer to check the products before and after the ozonizer .. ..
Vei
Quote: Yulya.Yalta
The TDS meter came today.
and what is it?
Yulya.Yalta
This is such a device for measuring the quality of water - hardness, salt, etc.
Admin
Quote: Vei

and what is it?

This is a device that determines the amount of soluble substances in units per liter of water. The lower the number, the less impurities. I measure water with them after the Aquaphor filter, water is about 10 units - this is normal. Water from the faucet can reach up to 300-500 units, especially in spring, when all the dirt from the surface of the earth leaves and is washed into the soil.

This was discussed in detail and discussed in the topic of water filters
Chamomile
Girls and boys. I am mature enough to buy an ozonizer. Respond to the topic, are you still happy with it? To me, first of all, to remove the smell. And by models. Almost nothing opens on your links. Can you tell me from what I dug.

Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food



Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food



Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food

Omela
Olga, they are all the same. Take the one that is cheaper. I use for meat, fish. To remove odor in the toilet.For ozonizing a room during illness.
kubanochka
Chamomile1, Olenka, I have had an ozonizer for six or seven years. I'm glad. I process vegetables, fruits, meat. In the rooms now I turn on for the prevention of viral infections. For what purpose did you decide to buy?
Chamomile
In general, I have long wanted to. I'm a creepy sniffer. It doesn't smell to anyone, but it smells to me. Primarily to remove odors.
Helen, I wrote to you in a personal note, can you tell me what?
ninza
Olga, and then you will tell which one you bought and for how much? I want this thing too.
Chamomile
Girls and boys!!!! I found such an ozonizer
Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food
give for 2500r without a guarantee, to take or not to take? I don’t know what kind of company it is and I don’t know how to check whether it works or not. Or not to save money and order in an internet store?
As a matter of fact, I ordered and was already waiting for it from day to day. And then a letter comes to me that it is not available, although they called me back and promised delivery within 7-10 days. So out of grief I went to Avito. AAaa !!!! Help with the choice !!!!
Vei
Olga, this is Tianshi ozonizer, I have one, it was shown at the beginning of the topic. I am happy with it, it has a timer and is quite a reliable machine. If I myself do not use it often, then my mother-in-law has been constantly treating water and food for 5 years in the country, until they complained.
Chamomile
Vei, and how to understand whether it works or not.
Vei
Quote: Chamomile1
how to understand whether it works or not.
turn it on, it will hum, the tip can be lowered into the water, air bubbles will go from it and you will feel the smell, as if from quartzing.
Song
Quote: Chamomile1

Girls and boys. I am mature enough to buy an ozonizer. Respond to the topic, are you still happy with it? To me, first of all, to remove the smell. And by models. Almost nothing opens on your links. Can you tell me from what I dug.
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Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food


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Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food


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Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food

Olya, I have a similar one. I'm glad. I use it regularly.

Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food


And then there is a small ionizer-ozonizer, which is plugged into the outlet and attached to it.

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kubanochka
Chamomile1, Olya, take it for such a price. I have just such, I bought at one time for ten thousand. These are Tianshi firms. Take it.
MariV
If it works, of course, you need to take it! I have a simple one, works, very happy, I would buy a second one, but now it costs four and a half!

Everything was going Lisa Vei Thanks again for the tip!
lega
I am also happy with my Ozoner (like Song). I use it regularly.
Vei
girls, it's so great that you are still using and are still happy with the device, hurray!
MariV
Today I just read that the seeds can be treated with this ozonizer, called bubbling. I will definitely use it!
marlanca
I also took this one today:
Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food
I read in the internet that they can ozonize cereals, did anyone do it, and how?
MariV
Quote: marlanca

I also took this one today:
Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food
I read in the internet that they can ozonize cereals, did anyone do it, and how?

Put cereals either in a jar, or in a tight polyethylene bag, there is a hose from the ozonizer, turn on from 5 to 10 minutes, depending on the amount of cereal.
Chardonnay
What an interesting topic! I reread it, but did not find information: helps to fight mold in the bathroom? Maybe someone experimented, please respond!
Vei
Quote: Chardonnay
helps to fight mold in the bathroom? Maybe someone experimented, please respond!
haven't tried it, but doubt it will help.
julia_bb
I have a sun ultraviolet device - for air purification and treatment / prevention of Orvi. I am very satisfied. Not suitable for fruit vegetables
Ozonizer - a device for purifying air, water and food
Masinen
Yulia, and what are the cones for? Breathe to?
julia_bb
Maria, yes, they are inserted. But don't breathe. you just direct the light into the nose or throat. Two cones with small different holes - in the nose. And two - with large, one of them to direct to the tonsils.
Vei
Quote: Masinen
and what are the cones for?
This is KUF, they make children in polyclinics!
Masinen
Elizabeth, I see it for the first time, so I asked. Yes. good thing, otherwise the daughter is given adenoids. But I'm not going to delete them, he will graze them, and then outgrow in the end.

Yulia, dear thing?

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