lemona
Quote: AVZ

lemona, about the time. In most recipes, the times are approximate, so you need to know approximately how much the dish will cook, and what signs of its readiness (or at least what is the time to check). These muffins (they are actually muffins) must be baked according to the recipe "... 25 minutes, or until the tops spring back slightly if you press lightly." ("Bake for 25 minutes or until tops spring back when lightly touched."). I put the call on 20, and after the expiration, I just took out and pierced one thing with a toothpick. It came out dry, so I took out the entire baking sheet.
The lattice can, firstly, be installed in different ways (with the rods up or down - experiment, suddenly it keeps more secure in some position), and secondly, did you try to get it out of the kit with a special holder?

Thanks for the helpful and detailed answer!
I take it out with a holder, but this time there was a glass mold and it rolled on the grate)) so without a mitten it would not have been possible to put the mold.
Next time I'll experiment with a grate and rods, thanks for the tip, I didn't even pay attention to it)
In general, I came up with a formula for cooking in this oven. You bet on 230 and everything cooks fine
Lettera
AVZ, thanks for the answer! Please share your experience further
Quote: lemona
but this time there was a glass form and it rolled on the grate
In-in, for the first time my form almost flew to the floor for the first time, I barely caught it now I treat it very carefully, even when metal forms, although they do not slip.
Quote: AVZ
take it out of the kit with a special holder, have you tried it?
Apparently they haven't baked in the glass in this stove yet?
AVZ
Quote: lemona
I take it out with a holder, but this time there was a glass mold and it rolled on the grate)) so without a mitten it would not have been possible to put the mold.
Quote: Lettera
Apparently they haven't baked in the glass in this stove yet?
To be honest, I never baked in glass. Worth trying?
I take everything out of the oven in baking gloves.
lemona
Quote: AVZ

To be honest, I never baked in glass. Worth trying?

This is the first time I've made a casserole in a glass. I liked it very much! You can see everything that happens inside, the form is easily washed, you can rub with anything. And you can even pick with a fork))
So, to my inexperienced eye, glass is very convenient! I bought the form in Ikea for 150 rubles) Beauty
Lettera
Quote: AVZ
To be honest, I never baked in glass. Worth trying?
Why not? Moreover, if it already exists
I will say right away that it bakes faster in metal, glass needs to be added either time or temperature. I like glass lemona writes everything correctly
AVZ
Ladies, and the vessel is glass material - I have no such forms, there is only a saucepan with a lid, I used to make marmalade in it - before putting dough into it, do you need to grease, sprinkle something (or do both of them together)?
AVZ
Well, since no one knows, we’ll have to bake the old way.
Today's catch:
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Incision:
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Lettera
AVZ Oh, there was no notification
I don't know how to do it right, I grease the glass with oil and sprinkle it with flour. Only "Amber cake" appleth baked in a different way. Not sprinkled.
And the pies turned out wonderful!
lemona
Elena, oh thanks for the recipe! Read out! Now I know what to cook next time

AVZ, beautifully! And I only make all sorts of casseroles in the form of a pie with shortbread dough. And I baked pies on my own baking sheet, it even worked out fine)
AVZ
Quote: Lettera
I don't know how to do it correctly, I grease the glass with oil and sprinkle it with flour.
Yeah, thank you.
Quote: Lettera
Only the "Amber cake" apple baked differently. Not sprinkled.
It is clear that the melted oil will fill the entire bottom there.Elena, what apples did you take for this "Yantarny"? And then of the "stronger apples" in our Palestinians, I'm afraid, only imported ...
Quote: Lettera
And the pies turned out wonderful!
Quote: lemona
AVZ, beautiful!
Thank you. Here is the smaller part: everyone did not fit into the frame.
Quote: lemona
And I only make all sorts of casseroles in the form of a pie with shortbread dough. And I baked pies on my own baking sheet, it even worked out fine)
The first batch was baked on a baking sheet, the second on a wire rack. Mustache covered it with baking paper.
By the way, it was found that although convection promotes the fastest cooking, it wildly knocks down the temperature. That is, with almost 230 it easily makes 180, so I decided not to turn on convection for the entire baking time. Only briefly at the beginning / end of cooking.
Lettera
Quote: AVZ
Elena, and what apples did you take for this "Yantarny"?
Yes, what friends they treated, they used
With different it turns out in different ways. Take any, just adjust the sugar depending on the apples.
When I baked in a Teflon dish on MAX., The apples caramelized and the crust turned out to be very interesting, caramel. It didn't work anymore. Maybe it depends on apples, and on temperature. The rest of the times I did it in glass, the top turned out to be soft.
I also did it with plums. All options are delicious.
vladilera
In O-z-o-n-e this weekend, Steba kb 23 is sold at a discount (in our city for 3992 rubles). If anyone was going to buy - the very thing, you will not regret
AVZ
Quote: Lettera
Yes, what friends they treated, they used
With different it turns out in different ways. Take any, just adjust the sugar depending on the apples.
When I baked in a Teflon dish on MAX., The apples caramelized and the crust turned out to be very interesting, caramel. It didn't work anymore. Maybe it depends on apples, and on temperature. The rest of the times I did it in glass, the top turned out to be soft.
I also did it with plums. All options are delicious.
Thanks, we will experiment.
Today's harvest:
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Quote: vladilera

In O-z-o-n-e this weekend, Steba kb 23 is sold at a discount (in our city for 3992 rubles). If anyone was going to buy - the very thing, you will not regret
Super! It's a pity, I have nowhere to put the second.
anna_k
I just saw the action today and was upset - just the other day I received it for 4990

The stove is wonderful! I have a million different gadgets popular on the bread maker (AF and Princess are also available), but I am delighted with it. There is no stationary oven, nor is there a microwave oven. And indeed this is the first stove, there is nothing to compare with.
Before that, I really wanted a small bork, but the price tag for it became very inhuman and in addition to its pleasant appearance, Steba also has convection and backlighting. The only thing is that there is not enough straight baking sheet for baking cookies, for example. I'm thinking where to get something like that.

So far, I've baked chicken with vegetables under a cheese crust several times, just vegetables. I want to try to bake some bread. Now I make a pastor from turkey, I used to cook this in AG

Another question: if you hang it on the wall on brackets for the microwave, how should the wallpaper be secured? It gets very hot from behind ((
AVZ
Quote: anna_k
there is not enough straight baking tray for baking cookies, for example. I'm thinking where to get something like that.
What for? Just cover the wire rack with baking paper and go! I think that a teflon sheet or silicone mat of the appropriate size will also work, if thick enough they can be placed on a baking sheet.
anna_k
Thank you! I thought about this option - it was embarrassing that suddenly the cookies would fall into the grates I would try this way.

And now the meat is cooked
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The recipe is simple: turkey fillet 700-800 gr. soak in saline solution for 2-3 hours. Then brush it with marinade (I have olive oil, barbecue sauce, paprika, dry garlic and dry parsley). Put in a preheated oven for 30-35 minutes 230 degrees and after the end of the program let stand for several hours without opening the lid.
The meat is very tender, it always flies away rapidly)))))
AVZ
Quote: anna_k
turkey fillet 700-800 gr. needs to be soaked in brine
Anna, how much salt for how much water should you take? Can't you add any herbs-spices to this solution?

And today's harvest:
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anna_k
About two to three tablespoons per one and a half liters of water. In general, I pour it on the eye and try. The solution should be salty, but not bitter.
I add herbs to the gruel that I smear before putting it in the stove.

You have wonderful cookies, I'm waiting for the moment when my trifle calms down a little and gives you something to cook
AVZ
anna_k, Thank you. Most importantly, tasty and quickly made.
Just yesterday:
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Today:
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Already today-2:
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AVZ
Little Shtebochka tries, and everything works out. We live!
Mini ovens Steba KB 41, KB 23
And how!
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anna_k
Oh yes, the bread in Shtebochka turns out great! With a delicious thin crust, delicate and aromatic!
Yesterday I cooked a cottage cheese casserole - it turned out very tenderly, unlike multi.
In general, with regret, I feel that with the purchase of a mini-stove, many of my gadgets turned out to be no longer necessary (((for example, AFochka, the princess is the same, the Steba sandwich maker and the brownie maker have been resting for a long time.
But you still want a straight baking sheet, at least in the case when the main one is busy. Well, I'm looking after the molds now. And then all available are small under AFochka
AVZ
Quote: anna_k
Yesterday I was making a cottage cheese casserole
Please welcome the recipe!
Quote: anna_k
for example, Afochka, the princess is the same, the Steba sandwich maker and the brownie maker have been resting for a long time
What is Afochka? Is there also a brownie maker?
Quote: anna_k
But you still want a straight baking sheet, at least in the case when the main one is busy
But yes, I would even buy a couple of trays in reserve, if there were such. Now I'm looking at silicone baking carpets. But they are expensive, contagions.
Katyanasevere
Dear Stebovites! But you don't know, maybe someone compared Steba and Rommelbachen in quality. I rush between two stoves .. Functions are the same. The staff is slightly smaller in size. Rommelbachen 40l (about 16 thousand) and Shteba 38l (10 thousand) differ significantly in price, but it doesn't matter to me, a gift :)
anna_k
Quote: AVZ
Quote: anna_k from Yesterday at 08:59 am
Yesterday I was making a cottage cheese casserole
Please welcome the recipe!
Elementary
Mix 3 tablespoons of semolina with sour cream, let it swell for half an hour or a little more. 300-400 gr. cottage cheese, 1 egg, vanilla sugar and regular sugar to taste, semolina with sour cream, raisins to taste. Mix everything, put in a mold, grease with sour cream on top. He baked for about 40 minutes at 180 degrees with convection.

Quote: AVZ
What is Afochka? Is there also a brownie maker?
AFochka is a Philips air fryer, there is a huge temka for it. It is rather a mini airfryer with a very high cooking speed. The little thing is very popular. The new version is called the Philips multi-oven.
And the brownie maker is a cupcake with square tins.
AVZ
Quote: anna_k
Elementary
I must try it sometime.
Brownie maker is good, probably, precisely in terms of the initial portioning of baked products. But somehow I get along fine.
By the post-New Year period:
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anna_k
Oh, what an unreal beauty! What is this?

I love baking, but I try to hold back

Brownie maker is not a bad thing, but now I wouldn't take it either. As well as various cupcake makers. Better to have a stock of cool molds!
today I bought an iron form Pyrex 26x19. I liked it very much! It entered almost exactly in width, there is a small margin in depth. And very deep.
🔗

And before that in Metro I bought a silicone mat just for the size of the stove - 36x27 Attribute. In general, nothing else is needed
AVZ
Quote: anna_k
Oh, what an unreal beauty! What is this?
This is a Christmas cake on dark dough (there are 6 times more dried fruits and nuts than flour, and the self-ground spice mixture gives such an aroma that it's just wow). The colors pumped up, I hope, when it is ripe, I can take a picture of the piece in natural light.
Quote: anna_k
I love baking, but I try to hold back
In this sense, I was lucky: I don't have to try. I love cooking, baking in particular.
Quote: anna_k
today I bought an iron form Pyrex 26x19. I liked it very much! It entered almost exactly in width, there is a small margin in depth.
That is, in width, does it fit on a hot baking sheet easily? Or do you put it instead of a baking sheet?
At the suggestion of our colleagues from this thread, I have recently been actively using a square shape made of borosilicate glass: there is a cupcake in it in the photo. Everything is prepared perfectly, baked evenly, clearly, and is not afraid of temperature extremes. The sides are high. And so that it does not roll on the baking sheet, I fold the teflon sheet for baking under it.
Quote: anna_k
And before that in Metro I bought a silicone mat just for the size of the stove - 36x27 Attribute.
How much does this cost? They won't let me into the Metro anyway.
Valll
Good day everyone. They just brought me a steba kb 41 stove, I immediately noticed that the door does not fit snugly at all, it upset me, this will also affect the quality of cooking, and the heat will come out. ... Is it all like that, or am I married? Yes. ... We'll have to put it on the glazed balcony, it's kind of big
satork
Hello. Yesterday the children gave me such a beautiful KV 23 for the New Year. Maybe someone has already mastered baking on a spit? Share the recipe. In the photo there is such a beautiful chicken. But I have doubts about whether it can fit and fry.
AVZ
Valll, good day! I have a model kb 23 stove: and yes, the door seems to fit loosely, but this is a deceptive impression. On the periphery of the "window" something like black rubber is laid in the oven, and the door adjoins this insulator well. In any case, try to cook something in it, and I hope that your doubts will disappear by themselves.
satork, Natasha, good afternoon! Great gift, kids are great! Unfortunately, the displacement of this model is not very enough for a good size bird, and I have not cooked a bird in it yet. Therefore, below are exclusively speculative considerations.
A goose, turkey, duck and even a capon are unlikely to comfortably fit on the grill (they still need to rotate), so I would aim exclusively at chickens up to 6 months old or an even smaller bird: guinea fowl or a pigeon. If it’s the hen’s hunting, and a specific specimen does not want to climb, no one bothers to cut it into approximately equal parts: wings with meat from the back, whole legs and a lonely breast. And already the parts will definitely be planted on the spit, although perhaps not all at once. The disadvantage of cutting with this method of cooking is obvious: the pieces are deprived of the protection of the skin and fat, so they should be well marinated and watered more often when they are melted. Plus - this is less cooking time and no need for high temperatures.
Do not hesitate about frying. If there is a thermometer, fry the chicken until the internal temperature reaches 74-80C, if not, focus on the light juice when punctured.
satork
Alexey, thanks. The idea of ​​frying in slices is great. Then don't do it. Let's try. But the big shish kebab should be tried. Something like accordion meat. We also need to bribe the form. And then the tray is somehow too small.
| Alexandra |
Isn't there a grate in the stove 23? In 41 there is, you can put everything on it that is smaller in width.
Valll
AVZ, thanks for the answer) I immediately examined everything, the door still does not fit tightly to the gum, it's a pity .. well, okay. Yesterday I tried to cook an ordinary charlotte, at 170 degrees, it was baked for almost an hour. ... A crust formed on top, while the impression is average ... I'll try some cookies today.
AVZ
Quote: satork
We also need to bribe the form. And then the tray is somehow too small.
Natasha, yes, I also look at different shapes / trays: not only the smallness, but also a very ribbed bottom is forced. Also in the direction of silicone baking sheets and grill nets ...
Quote: Valll
Yesterday I tried to cook an ordinary charlotte, at 170 degrees, it was baked for almost an hour. ... A crust formed on top, while the impression is average
Did you warm up the stove before cooking? (a little over an hour I was making a pie with a kilogram of apples) If the answer is yes, then it really looks like a marriage.
Lettera
Yesterday I baked 2 muffins in NW "Presents" according to the recipe from Chuchelka "Curd muffins" Warmed up to max (230gr), put the mold on and baked for 25 minutes, all at the same max. The thermometer showed ~ 170-180g. Not baked, added another 10 minutes at a stroke, then another 10 minutes. for 220g. (on the handle, in reality, on the thermometer it was ~ 150g)
Max is a handle to the limit, not 230g. ))) And I set the time immediately to 90 minutes, turn it off when ready. I use an extraneous timer so that the stove does not turn off by itself.

It is also advisable to tie the grilled chicken with some kind of culinary thread so that neither legs nor wings dangle))
bas-67
Dear KB 41 users, please tell me, is the first mode on the left on the Prog knob - the lower heater? That is, the same as in KB 28?
And another purely master's question. Double glazing is good, but it is not a glass unit, therefore, in my opinion, the surfaces between the panes are prone to contamination. Is this so, and if so, how to deal with it?
The second week I dry the remnants of gray matter by choosing an oven. There are two candidates left - KV 41 and DEX DTO 520C. For the first one - the body material, the camera coating, double glass (is it a plus?), More modes, for the second one - a larger volume, two baking sheets, more than half the price.
Chardonnay
Lettera, Elena, good afternoon. I am inclined to buy STEBA KB 28. You recently found out - what is the difference between STEBA KB 28 and STEBA KB 28 ECO. There was no other difference besides the power and different door designs? That is, is it practically the same thing?
Shtebovich
Steba KB 28 (power 1500 W, case - stainless steel, control panel - stainless steel)
Steba KB 28 ECO (power 1400 W, body - metal (gray), control panel - stainless steel)
bas-67
Quote: bas-67
first mode on the left on the Prog knob - bottom heater? That is, the same as in KB 28?
Found a photo (KB 41 - above, KB 28 - below):
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But the instructions for 41 models, at least Russian, describe the modes of 28. But I am more inclined to believe the photos and do not understand what the engineers were guided by, replacing the mode of the lower heater with "full stuffing".
Lettera
Quote: Chardonnay
what is the difference between STEBA KB 28 and STEBA KB 28 ECO. There was no other difference besides the power and different door designs? That is, is it practically the same thing?
Chardonnay, Rita, good afternoon. Yes, it's the same thing, but if you choose which one to take, take a new one (if the difference in price is small). Judging by the reviews in this thread, the ECO series keeps the temperature inside better. Of course, if the difference in price is significant, feel free to take the previous model, the differences are still insignificant. I myself have not seen the IVF series did not feel and I can't compare with my own, in BT stores, for some reason Shteba is not fully represented, and mini-stoves are generally disrespectful goods, when I was looking for myself, only Borki and occasionally others came across (I can't even remember who).
She made friends with her, but nowhere without a thermometer Small stoves definitely need a thermometer for the oven. And it is convenient for me to set a separate timer so that the stove does not turn off itself when the time has come, and I could turn it off when it is actually ready. Checking with a wooden skewer

By the way, on NG baked Cupcake "Gingerbread House"
Quote: Lettera
Baked at 220, the thermometer showed 160g. So I am very glad that there is a thermometer, for small stoves it is necessary
I unsubscribed there, in detail, but here I forgot
kloki
Tell me, who knows, but can you embed the 23rd well, or put it in a niche, or should it only be freestanding?
Chardonnay
Lettera, Elena, thank you for such a detailed answer! Here I am somehow confused by the fact that the eco-friendly metal is gray (thanks, S-t,) without identification marks. Stainless steel - it's own, dear. In general, I will still think until May (before my birthday) there is time)
Elena, what kind of thermometer should I look for? I also think to buy for the kit ..
bas-67
Quote: kloki
you can embed well or put in a niche
Any oven can be built in, provided that the gaps are observed: near the side walls and the back - from 2 cm, the top - at least 5.
kloki
Bohdan, Thank you!
bas-67
Lyuba, you're welcome!
Lettera
Chardonnay, Rita, outwardly I also like 23 more, even when I was going to buy, I really hoped that I would get it, 23 IVF just appeared then)))
My thermometer is like this:
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I bought from Tatiana T.A., then I bought the same one in Finland on the occasion, with a big discount (could not resist) the papers for them were different, but they themselves were absolutely identical.Teskoma also has a good thermometer, but even before the crisis it cost 500-600 rubles ... how much it costs now, I'm afraid to imagine. And so, anyone fits, there are a lot of cheap thermometers on Ebay and Ali. For the 23rd, up to 250g is enough.
Quote: kloki
Tell me, who knows, but can you embed the 23rd well, or put it in a niche, or should it only be freestanding?
It is free-standing, but I have it in the Ikeevsky closet, Besto series. On the sides, 5 cm, 4 on top, and even when I bake, I push it forward 4-5 cm so that there is more space in the back, and the hot air from the door does not go into the cabinet, but immediately outside. Cabinet with a back wall. Sometimes, if I plan to bake for a long time, I take it out and put it on the table.
In the instructions, I did not find installation recommendations, but in the topic about mini-ovens they wrote that it is desirable to have 10 cm on top, 5 cm on the side.
vladilera
Quote: Chardonnay

Here I am somehow confused by the fact that the eco-friendly metal is gray (thanks, S-t,) unmarked
It is matte silver in the color of the front handles.

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Chardonnay
vladilera, Valeria, kill yourself with a broom, what a beauty ... I want - nimaga !!! And the coating is not scratched, did you notice?
Chardonnay
Lettera, Elena, thank you! Probably, I will buy thermometers first, and then the stove will catch up with them)))) I was presented with a St. George ribbon with the words "hang on the car" a long time ago. Well, the car bought into the tape)))
Yurets
Good health to everyone, I want to buy a Steba KB41 ECO, the question is, what is the complete set of this stove, is there a seal between the door and the stove ... and in general your opinion about it ... I take as a gift to my beloved woman

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