Which bread maker to buy?

small ones without a timer, but in principle everything they described above they can do. Oh, and the form is one.

Help with the choice, I decided to make a present, but my eyes run up from the choice.
The wife bakes a lot, so I would like to get rid of manual labor, with a timer, a baguette, and sweet pastries.

Hello everyone!

I have already read a lot of information here. In the end, I got so confused ...
looking for HP, so that:

I made the dough myself and yeast and without, and that would be with additives and sourdough and for dumplings and pizza
cakes to bake
so that different shapes of containers are
snooze timer to be
to clean what would be convenient
but not very big

can someone tell me where and what to look at!

Forms of capacity IMHO do not need different. When I need to get a sunflower from bread, I put the kneaded dough in a mold and in the oven or in the airfryer. Or I'll bake a cake in the oven, cut it off after cooling in the shape of a pyramid, sprinkle it with chocolate or an Easter veil and here you go. and the guests are pleased and I will get the pieces after the "support". Thanks to a friend, I took the cheapest stove from METRO. Alaska. Then I took one more (business). One nakirilas exactly one year later (I would have accumulated in her place from such volumes earlier). The second is still plowing. If it breaks down, I'll take an inexpensive one again. It was easy for me to experiment on it, and you know, not so sorry. At one time I took a stove for 1500, while a panas or mulka cost 6 with a tail.
And in no case do not regret listening to advice. After talking with the stove, I will hear that the sellers are drilling ..... Carcasses are light. Well, they are on a percentage .... I advise you to listen to the members of the forum, they are smart and caring, you look at how much advice people give. Read And then as it gvooritsya, with this news you need to sleep) And then for the purchase.

[sturm]

sturm, welcome to our friendly company!

For starters, any stove will free your spouse from manual labor, i.e. kneading dough.

Now almost every stove has a timer. With baguettes, it's a different matter - it seems, only with Mulinex. And it would be very interesting if not for a couple of NO. You will still have to sculpt the baguettes by hand, and the molds in the bread maker are very small, the size of the baguettes is more likely not baguettes, but buns for hot dogs. Most of our bakers go back to baking baguettes in the oven as a result.

If it's not difficult, indicate in your profile where you are from (the geography of our forum is large, the range may vary). And in the message, specify how much you are willing to spend on the purchase of HP. It is possible that you will be asked some more clarifying questions.

The wife bakes a lot, so I would like to get rid of manual labor, with a timer, a baguette, and sweet pastries.

* bakes a lot * in the sense of often or does a lot of kg of dough knead? Big family? If there is a large family, then you need a stove with two mixers for 1.5-2 kilos of dough. And if you just bake often, then choose a small or medium (up to 1 kg) stove. Those who bake often and do not have time to eat now dream of a small stove, it is more convenient to knead a small amount of dough in it.

[Shurshunchik]

Thanks to a friend, I took the cheapest stove from METRO. Alaska. Then she took another one

Shurshunchik returned! And where have you been for six months? I agree with you. By the way, I recently learned that Alaska is produced in the same place as one of my stoves - Severin. I also bought for a short time, to play, and for six years she has been plowing and plowing ... A year later, she bought a second field, Arietka, and she plows and plows. And the third, in a multi-cooker, also bakes well.

Thanks for the advice everyone! the problem is that the choice is the hardest thing. and HP on the market ho-ho how much.

But I nevertheless decided to buy the simplest and not the most expensive, so that in case of anything I could send it to the dacha))))

But I nevertheless decided to buy the simplest and not the most expensive, so that in case of anything I could send it to the dacha))))

Now show me what kind, otherwise there are stoves, both expensive and inexpensive with a congenital defect: an overly light upper crust.

* bakes a lot * in the sense of often or does a lot of kg of dough knead? Big family? If there is a large family, then you need a stove with two mixers for 1.5-2 kilos of dough. And if you just bake often, then choose a small or medium (up to 1 kg) stove. Those who bake often and do not have time to eat now dream of a small stove, it is more convenient to knead a small amount of dough in it.

Often bakes. Almost every day. The more I look at models, the less I understand
average, approx. And what is better in terms of functionality, shapes, etc.?

[Shurshunchik]

Shurshunchik returned! And where have you been for six months? I agree with you. By the way, I recently learned that Alaska is produced in the same place as one of my stoves - Severin. I also bought for a short time, to play, and for six years she has been plowing and plowing ... A year later, she bought a second field, Arietka, and she plows and plows. And the third, in a multi-cooker, also bakes well.

Thank you, dear, I really appreciate your kind words
And when I read that I have been plowing for SIX years, I jumped for joy with the words "How glad I am, how glad I am that I will go to Leningrad" Hello, sazalexter By the way, in the 90s I worked as a commodity specialist using the Severin technique as well. Unkillable weight! And, naturally, having learned that Alaska is a subsidiary company, she was very happy in the hope that the apple from the cherry fell not far. And not because a hybrid, but because they grow nearby

Help people with the choice, and then there is so much flame, it is difficult to isolate useful information.
After reading I highlighted the Panasonic SD-2500WTS Kenwood BM 350, although it may just come across more often. I don’t understand anything in functionality, I come to the kitchen.Therefore, I cannot cope without your help

Friends help !!!

For a week I have been digging through this forum, shopping and generally on an Internet. I want to buy a bread maker. When I started to choose, everything was somehow simple, but the process dragged on and it became a mistake .... I'm stuck Now I don't know which model to buy.
Here's what I liked:
LG HB-2001 BY
Kenwood BM 366
Tefal OW 4002
Moulinex OW310E30
Gorenje BM 1400 E
Who can advise what in terms of reliability and quality, both of the oven itself and of baking? I want less plastic (phobia on it))) so I started to turn away from LG.

Didn't wait for answers ... chose Tefal but ordered Burning.

[3ina]

How do you look at it

which of the 2?

the second analogue of the 900 burner. theme here

the first also has sisters and brothers

3ina, and welcome to the forum

I ordered on the Internet from e bay de, will come in a week. but I know that there will be no instructions in Russian, is anyone familiar with this beast?

This is the one that is 3x1. And thanks for the greeting. I will be glad to obschatsya !!!

Help people with the choice, and then there is so much flame, it is difficult to isolate useful information.
After reading I highlighted the Panasonic SD-2500WTS Kenwood BM 350, although it may just come across more often. I don’t understand anything in functionality, I come to the kitchen.Therefore, I cannot cope without your help

A wonderful choice. If you are satisfied with the price, then feel free to take it ... just Panasonic))

The point is that PANAS. on these sites, well, very expensive, and there will not be instructions in Russian either. To order from Russia will pay more for the shipment if they also send it !?

Help me too, please!
I asked a question in the same section, but in a different topic. There are no answers - apparently, people do not go there :-(
I decided to buy a new bread maker and take the old one to my dacha. Now I am tormented by the problem of choice.
I really want the bread maker to have two buckets: for baking a loaf and for two small bricks. And even better - so that you can bake round bread, like an Easter cake. This is probably the main wish.
In addition, I want to have the "My recipe" mode ("Home cook", etc.)- well, in general, so that you can create your own program within certain limits or slightly change the standard ones.
Dispenser is desirable (but not required). And, of course, I would like all this to be not very expensive - and at the same time reliable: it did not leak, did not fray, did not need to constantly replace the oil seals and rollers ...
Dear experts, as well as the owners of "just what you need": please advise which models to pay attention to. I toured several stores in our city - there are no models with replaceable buckets in any (although I remember exactly that I saw Binatone with different shapes a year ago). And on the Yandex market there is no such option as "replaceable forms".
Or maybe I want the impossible? And interchangeable forms, in principle, are not combined in existing models with the possibility of programming? (And even with a dispenser?)

Kassandra64. Recently I faced the same choice. Binaton 2169 was bought. What can I say .. the double bucket met my expectations completely. Round ??? I don’t know .. why do you need it? Classic cakes are baked by and large once a year and will burn in a bread machine because of the sweetness, adapted cakes are still not the same as in the oven. But bread in the form of a cake is inconvenient. Now for the baker .. as I understand it, programming is required for black bread? Binaton does not allow you to turn off the second kneading and deboning, so programming for pure rye bread will not work .. it seems in Kenwood programming you can put zero on the second batch. So the programming is stripped down. And the binaton also has one fun feature: the mode is only baking for 1 hour and no nails! in short, instead of increasing the baking time, the baking delay is set! that is, rye bread can be done like this: kneading and then baking with a delay .. but 1 hour is not enough, you need to watch and add pastries .... something like this. and the bread bakes excellent, the price is democratic, the warranty is 2 years, I have listed the jambs. there is a similar stove for the Daewoo, burning, they are a little more expensive, look at their instructions, how is it with programming. ps before binaton I had moulinex baguettes.

Lana, thanks!

Yes, about the round shape - that's so, self-indulgence, probably :-) Daewoo, in my opinion, no longer supplies these models to Russia. Do you know the name of the model "Combustion" by chance?

It is not true that they do not supply. When I was looking for mine, I found it through the Internet in a network of stores techno-power (we have it) Daewoo Int. DI-9154. And Gorenje BM1400E was discussed on the forum

Kassandra64, and you look at the models of stoves in online stores, those that can deliver a purchase to your city. The main thing is to choose the right store so that there are no problems with ordering and delivery.
Last weekend I ordered a Gorenje BM1400E with two shapes, the same as you want. Although at first I stopped at Tefal with a second round shape, also like for Easter cakes. Here I sit, waiting for the stove to arrive. But I have a delivery on hand, so I chose a store without delivery in Russia.

Good evening!
Please advise which C / P is better:
1) Moulinex 2000 (popular and reliable brand (I have been using a meat grinder since 1998 pah-pah-pah)
2) Kenwood 230 (Kenwoods have normal reviews)
3) Binatone 1168 (attracts the presence of a baguette holder at an attractive price)

Moulinex- was with me with baguettes, two repairs under warranty and again a bucket flowed, the repair is true without any reservations, but troublesome. The question is, is Mulinex so reliable?
Binaton (though 2169) - assembled and bakes no worse than a mule, although there are some fun with programming, but the price covers this minus.
The baguette holder has been used 3-4 times, four bars for the maaalo family, and time is wasted. Oven foreve!

Why not choose an oven with a RYE bread program?

Panasonic owners everywhere write that the rye bread program is not entirely correct, they bake according to the batch-baking scheme. so programming is better.

Moulinex- was with me with baguettes, two repairs under warranty and again a bucket flowed, the repair is true without any reservations, but troublesome. The question is, is Moulinex so reliable?
Binaton (though 2169) - assembled and bakes no worse than a mule, although there are some fun with programming, but the price covers this minus.
The baguette holder has been used 3-4 times, four bars for the maaalo family, and time is wasted. Oven foreve!

So Moulinex has worsened the quality of products

Lana! What kind of stove are you using at the moment?

I have binaton 2169, bought recently, the bread is excellent, the dome is fried. the double bucket (which is why it was bought) paid off. I like programming, but 100% rye will not work, the second batch does not turn off. if you focus on programming, it is probably better if you can set the kneading and boning to 0 minutes, but this became clear after the purchase. Buying a binaton did not cause thoughts "it would be better to have a Panasonic". Happy!

Lana! Metal dust is said to form under the bucket. Do you have that? and they say that something is being ground off at the bucket.

Dust is similar to graphite, it is small, uncritical in my opinion (I have a technical education, I am not blonde and I can cut locks and change mixers myself). The warranty is two years, the price is half the price of a mule or a Panasonic, so I don't jump on this topic. and even cars are run-in.

Panasonic owners write everywhere that the rye bread program is not entirely correct

And many write that the bread according to the recipe from the instructions is yummy))) Probably someone likes something.

We choose a combination of two programs "Gluten Free" + "Baking" (for models SD-2500, 2501, 2502 programs Basic Rapid + Bake Only, respectively):
I. Program "Gluten-free", we can install any mixing paddle, but with a paddle for rye bread (it looks like a comb), it will be easier for you to mix the dough.
Attention! The rye setting is not suitable due to the baking time of 45 minutes.
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=9345.0
I didn’t come up with it!

Attention! The rye setting is not suitable due to the baking time of 45 minutes.

Can't you add time manually?

probably you can, I do not pretend to be true. just offered to consider the conclusions of a very authoritative author

And many write that the bread according to the recipe from the instructions is yummy))) Probably someone likes something.

Previously, in the instructions for Panasonic there was an error on the recipe for RYE - Bread with bran. The wrong amount of water was indicated there. Panasonic released HP with new numbers, and the error in the instructions continued to be printed ... check that in yours - there should be 330ml of water, and not 430ml.

Attention! The rye setting is not suitable due to the baking time of 45 minutes.

It's misspelled. See instructions on page 5 ... Baking on RYE mode, not 45 min, but 1 hour. When Vanya was writing this memo, perhaps he did not have instructions for Panasonic at hand.

and rye is baked for 1 hour 30 minutes. why argue that? someone likes the regime, someone programs. the main thing is the result. Panasonic is an excellent car, no one argues, this is reasoning on the topic "can the rye bread program be a priority when choosing hp"

Good evening!
Please advise which C / P is better:
1) Moulinex 2000 (popular and reliable brand (I have been using a meat grinder since 1998 pah-pah-pah)
2) Kenwood 230 (Kenwood has normal reviews)
3) Binatone 1168 (attracted by the presence of a baguette holder at an attractive price)

uh-uh-uh sorry, but what does Panasonic have to do with it? it is not on the list. And you can bake rye in any oven and with any spatula

Panasonic is not on this list, Panasonic is on the question of choosing HP with the rye bread mode

Panasonic is not on this list, Panasonic is on the question of choosing HP with the rye bread mode

rye can be baked in any oven and with any spatula

Why not choose an oven with a RYE bread program?

IRR and I are about the same !!!

I'll add my own five kopecks.

Why not choose an oven with a RYE bread program?

You can choose anything. The question is, what are their priorities.
Mine are the ones I have listed:
- the presence of a double form (so that you can bake not only one large, but also two small loaves at the same time, and, if necessary, different);
- the ability to program (not only to bake rye bread);
- the presence of a dispenser (optional, but desirable).

And for someone else, quite possibly, the main requirement is the presence of a built-in rye bread program. For me, this is just not very important, because, firstly, I rarely bake rye, and secondly, I tend to believe both my own experience and the experienced and authoritative regulars of this forum, who claim that one intensive batch is needed to bake it. for an hour, a long multi-hour proofing without deboning, and then an hour and a half baking. As far as I understand, there are no such parameters in any of the preinstalled rye bread programs (so I just knead the dough first, then leave it in the switched off bread maker for half a day, and then turn on the "Baking" mode, stop it in the middle and immediately turn it on again) ... And even if there were - two buckets and the ability to do something according to an independently given recipe for me is more important. But this is for me. Others probably have different priorities.

The members of the forum told me that the closest to my wishes are the Binatone BM 2169, Gorenje BM1400E and Daewoo Int. DI-9154. And if the latest model, alas, alas, I could not find in any online store, as well as
Daewoo Electronics DBM-202 - also with two buckets, the "Binaton" and "Gorenie" are on sale. I choose between them.
Thanks to everyone who helped :-)

[Kassandra64]

to bake it, you need one intensive kneading for an hour, a long many hours of proofing without deboning, and then an hour and a half baking.

Kassandra64, excuse me, but who advised you this ??? !!!



- rye bread needs a short batch, no more than 20 minutes

- proofing may not take many hours if the apartment is warm and if there is strong yeast or sourdough

- baking an hour - an hour ten minutes ... in an hour and a half the crust will become oak

[Kassandra64]

Kassandra64, excuse me, but who advised you this ??? !!!
- baking an hour - an hour ten minutes ... in an hour and a half the crust will become oak

here I am about 1.30 Ganya

Yesterday I baked in Panas on the Rye program (my own recipe). It turned out pretty well, we just need to improve the recipe. For example, I am afraid to take any nouns (I already wrote about this earlier). Launched Panas - as if there is no such silence !!!

Is there a difference between expensive bread makers like the Panasonic 2500 and the cheaper ones like the delongi 125? About Panasonic they write that it is quiet, reliable, but in terms of the number of programs and functions, it does not differ from other manufacturers, the instructions say that it takes 4 hours to cook bread. Is this the cooking time for all bread makers? In general, does it make sense to buy Panasonic or cheaper models are not worse?

Is there a difference between expensive bread makers, ...?

there is a difference.
but good bread can be baked in cheap CP. you cannot tell.

there is a difference.
but good bread can be baked in cheap CP. you cannot tell.

I saw here messages in which it was written about the difference in the consistency and taste of bread according to the same program in different HB.

[Dopplet]

I saw here messages in which it was written about the difference in the consistency and taste of bread according to the same program in different HB.

yeah, Dopplet wrote, in her stove is much tastier than in a neighbor's in Panasonic. you need to attach handles, handles ... and sometimes connect the head. And everything will be tip-top

and Daewoo Int. DI-9154. And if the latest model, alas, alas, I could not find in any online store, as well as
Daewoo Electronics DBM-202 - also with two buckets, the "Binaton" and "Gorenie" are on sale. I choose between them.
Thanks to everyone who helped :-)

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