New Tefal Dual Home Baker OW4000 Oven

Have you met the Tefal bread maker, which is an exact copy of Moulinex?
What do you think of it?
Should you buy such an oven?
And even instructions for them from Moulinex.
Look like these Moulinex models:
OW5002
OW3000
I understand that everything is made in China, but in this case I am completely at a loss.

??? Maybe this is just from a series of stoves collected by hardworking Vietnamese in the basement? I had to try rubbing the inscriptions with a wet finger, they say on fakes they are easily erased (when wiped with a damp cloth). Here, on the forum, somewhere there was such information. I rubbed my inscriptions - nothing was erased

If you look at the site, we see that Tefal does not seem to produce bread machines for Russia - perhaps for other countries, but in this case, in theory, they will not be certified for Russia

On the other hand, the similarity of the Moulinex and Tefal products is quite understandable - they both belong to the SEB group.

So now many manufacturers are doing - the same products with various minor changes are sold under different brands - globalization

Oh, I also found on their website that Tefal definitely produces toasters and small ovens.
But all the same, I did not hear about HP from them

: D We have a Tefal toaster, it has been working well for five years, we use it constantly

TatSU
Thank you .
Doubts still gnaw ...
Now, if there was a copy model of Moulinex with baguettes, then I would definitely buy it. And this is not.

TatSU
Doubts still gnaw ...

Yes, I would also strongly doubt - well, Tefal does not make bread machines under this brand for Russia either.

I don't even know how to find out for which country this is done, if it's a real Tefal.

I specially googled the words "tefal bakery" - one of the links leads to the site of the St. Petersburg store. where it says "Bread Maker Tefal OW 5002 30" - and in the picture there is a Moulinex stove - if you wish, you can guess the logo

Did the sellers just mix brands?

Does your embarrassing one have the Tefal logo right?

Does your embarrassing one have the Tefal logo right?

Yes, there is the Tefal logo, and the passport is given from ... Moulinex.
And the price is $ 190.

Yes, there is the Tefal logo, and the passport is given from ... Moulinex.
And the price is $ 190.

And this is in which city? And in the store or with hands?
I can only assume: either counterfeit or fake.

This is in the city of Tallinn.
In the shop .
We have such a small choice that I think maybe I can also order a stove on e-wow. Only I don't know German. I looked in English e-wow - all the stoves there were for sale only in Great Britain.

I found them!

It turns out that tefal makes bread makers under this logo for Germany.
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then select Produkte at the top
then on the left the third from the top Essenszubereitung, then on the page the second line Brotbackautomaten

Here I only see two models 3001 and 5001

So it may just be German goods brought to you - there seems to be not very far away. And the instruction from Moulinex will naturally fit - then consider the stove the same

And also having rummaged in nearby countries I found it from the Finns
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and Danes
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maybe they also sell real HP Tefal in neighboring countries

The internet is better than Greece - there really is everything here

Thank you very much, Tatochka!

I looked at the Tefalev site, but in Russian, so I did not find these stoves.
It is these models that are presented in our store.
Now I don't even know what to do anymore.
But at least it is now clear that this is not counterfeit. And just Moulinex with a different name.
But it was these models that somehow did not attract me. On the other hand, there is no choice. In addition to these, you can choose either Severin or Kenwood VM-250.Both options are $ 70 cheaper, but Severin is said to dry out the bread. And Kenwood is ugly. And besides, I recently had a bad experience with a Kenwood combine.
I'm all in disarray ...

Rita, thanks for the karma

I just became curious myself, so I dig deeper.

And what to do, alas. no one but yourself will tell you.
You can see the forum in the Hardware part about Kenwood and Severin

If you buy a model to which your soul does not lie, then the card will fall: the first bread will turn out good - you will probably like it, but no - then you will break your head "why did I buy it"

I’m thinking, the German market and the Finnish one is quite picky about quality, we can assume that the models are made with high quality - although, again, you need to look, as everywhere and always

TatSU
one more thanks!
Thanks to you, I guessed to look at the website of the Finnish online store, whose branch works with us. And they also have Tefalki, but $ 30 cheaper. True, you have to pay $ 8 for shipping, but still.
And they can also return the goods within two weeks. Only it should be unused.
Now I'm wondering if you can see it on the stove if it's used a couple of times.
If it's not visible, then .... I can be cunning if I don't like the stove.

TatSU
one more thanks!
Thanks to you, I guessed to look at the website of the Finnish online store,

Well, this is definitely not my merit. You guessed it yourself

Now I'm wondering if you can see it on the stove if it's used a couple of times.

I think you need to take a good look when you just open it. There may be some kind of lubricant or something.
It is also recommended to wash before the first use. If you want to return, you will need to return everything "back" and on the stove

Hello Rita! I am also from Estonia)) And I also want to bake! So I even gave the topic 3 to choose from and this is your Tefalka. My relative, the head of the store, called the Tafal-Mulinex representative office, and they said that the Mulineks 5004 are the ones with baguettes, I don't have a crush on them and won't. So there is such a Tefal 🔗 Well, at least I found a picture of him))). It is very bad with stoves in Estonia, everything is only on order and then the choice is scanty. Have you bought something yet?

Natalja Ar
hello fellow countrywoman!
I have sprinkled everything. Found only Kenwood-210 in Expert and OnOffe.
Muli's two models in Viva-electronic. One of them is the one you sent me the link to.
And three models of Severin in "+/-" electronics.
You can also order Tefal in Antilla - 🔗 and it turns out to be cheaper than in "+/-" by 300 CZK. But you have to pay for the delivery still. But you can return it back within two weeks, but you cannot use it. Or use it so that it is not visible.
Back in Kodutarwa, I saw Melissa - a copy of Kenwood-210.
In my opinion, we have no more companies selling equipment.

I haven't bought anything yet. Thinking.

By the way, this Tefal, which you like, is also an exact copy of Moulinex.

Yes, we can't accelerate with stoves. : '(There is simply no choice. Well, at least there is something. And that is on order. In Viva Eoelectronica we have in Jõhvi, there is Tefalka, I ask all this, only one bakery, they answered me, but how many do you need ??? I say, well, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you have such a meager choice))). So I think if you buy This Tefal, there will be an instruction in what language and where then if what to look for recipes for it ... otherwise we bought a camera so well recently there was an instruction in English, the second in Spanish (((. Here on the site I I look and there are instructions for the stoves.Why do we all do not like people (((
So Rita you have not decided yet, but I want to decide before tomorrow)))

There are a lot of recipes on the site. If Tefal is a copy of Moulinex, then the instructions are most likely the same.

Natalja Ar
On this site, both Moulinex (consider Tefali) and Kenwood have good reviews.
Probably, in this case, you need to take the one that you like more in appearance. By the way, Kenwood doesn't have a program for kneading dumplings. It worries me. I'm afraid the motor is weak.

Oh. I don’t know if Tefal Moulinex is a copy))).I'll say an amateur in this matter of identification))) The saddest thing is that I can't exactly where to consider what functions Tefal performs and what bakes. But I remember so. Buttons, and a cupcake and jam and jam and baking of all kinds of bread, I don't know if we can take the risk of ordering tomorrow and not expensive 1790 kroons total In ruble terms about 3760 ... Probably not expensive ...

Natalja Ar
we have a hundred crowns more! Capital city, blinn!
I am 100% sure that it is an exact copy, because when I asked to see the passport for Tefalka, they brought me a passport from Moulinex. They said that these are absolutely identical stoves, only the name of the company is written differently. But the passport, apparently, were too lazy to print under their own name.

You can safely read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_content&task=view&id=87&Itemid=88 - everything must match)))
And here 🔗 you can compare.

I made up my mind for a long time.
Only I am not satisfied with what is offered on our market.
I will wait for other options.
Suddenly Tefal decides to give his name to the Mulinex model, which with baguettes ... or bread makers will appear in Stockmann. And there are brands such as De Longy.
Or someone will bring it from Russia.
I decided not to rush.

And if you buy, be sure to tell us about the results. I will await your report.

Rita can we switch to you ??? And then something yasama on you started, old education zazyvaetsya))).
Honestly, I myself threw a fishing rod on Mulinex with baguettes, I really liked it! But this is how the sevodnyashny day showed, And a call to the Tefal Moulinex office, We will not have them, why is not known ... In general, they explained to me that we have no demand for a bread machine at all. A friend says they had one for 2 years, now only to order, she says they don't take it. And why, but because people do not know what it is! Yach's been reading a lot, because it's a smart thing!
And I don’t want to wait, I want to, probably order a car, and as soon as I get it I’ll unsubscribe what a beast! I also learned about Panasonic, we don't have them at all. The bulk is Woman and Severin, which is cheaper. But not everyone wants a cheap price ... I don’t understand our sellers!

Oh. I don’t know if Tefal Moulinex is a copy))). I'll say an amateur in this matter of identification))) The saddest thing is that I can't exactly where to consider what functions Tefal performs and what bakes. But I remember so. Buttons and muffins and preserves and jam and baking all kinds of bread

If the Tefal stove is real, then it will be an exact copy of Moulinex. The appearance and numbers are fully consistent
That is, if you see a furnace, for example Tefal OW3000 - then this is a complete copy of the Muolinex OW3000 furnace - well, the functions and instructions should be completely identical

In appearance, the different models of tefal-moulinex stoves can also be distinguished
there are both tefal and moulinex:

2000 - square white
3000 - silver - square metal

and only moulinex has found such ovens on the websites
5002 - white is relatively high and it is deeper than wide
5004 - externally like 5002 - in the picture of the Mulinex site, 5004 has a gray cover - but I think this is not always the case. The main difference is a stand for baguettes
How to distinguish without a visible stand - I do not know

Natalja Ar
with pleasure!

And I might have bought a cheap Severin if they hadn't told me on another branch that he was drying out bread. In order to try, to understand whether I need a bread maker at all, or is it just another whim.

And then I bought a Kenwood kitchen machine - I thought I would knead dough in it.
I put in all the ingredients, started it, and ...... everything became clear! There, the upper part of the machine is poorly fixed, and jumps during operation. When it breaks off - a matter of time.

It's good that I bought it at Hobbiehall. I washed it thoroughly and handed it back. And it cost three and a half thousand crowns.

Now I'm afraid.

Yes, you're out of luck, but nothing is always the same! You need to buy something that others have and read the reviews and then everything is calmer! And all of a sudden this is a buchet bread maker - a dream !!!! I've been sitting and thinking ... But oh, how I want fresh bread. I read everything here, people write and give photos, but I envy)))

Natalja Ar, Rita do not think, but buy bread makers and bake your own delicious bread. I have the cheapest Klatronic bread maker, but I am very pleased with it, I have not bought bread in the store for more than a year now, I mean that if there is no opportunity to buy a more advanced brand, then an inexpensive bread maker will delight you with a good, tasty bread.

Of course, I really understand that the thing is cool, so I can't choose .. Rita I looked at your link Tefal from Anttila. So this is an analogue of Moulinex 5002, one to one is the same and is cheaper than the one on which I wash ... I'm completely confused. But She wrote bread up to 1.500kg. She's probably quite huge. I had already decided to order one, but I saw another in Antilles and now I'm all in confusion

:) And it's not huge, small, neat, it differs from 5004 only in the presence of a stand for baguettes. By the way, in 5004 the size of the bucket is also XXL

Mueslik, well, I don't know, it just seemed to me that 1.5 kg is a giant bread! Yes, honestly, I'm all already in the choice, I looked at everything, and probably did Klyun on this Tefal which is like Moulinex 5002! Now I'm trying to order it from the catalog!

(y) Of course, order! I usually bake bread of XL size (this is 1 kg), it almost always rises to the edge of the bucket, flies away in a day! Or you can have a smaller oven. Baguettes, of course, are good, but if there isn't one ?!

Natalja Ar
I saw this stove in real life. It is not much larger than the 30001 model. What is good - it has two kneading blades. And the shape of the bread is classic, and not in the shape of Easter, as it is in small bread makers. You can bake bread in three sizes - 750, 1000 and 1500 grams.
If you knead the dough into pies in it, you can knead the right amount at once, and not knead several times. And with dumplings the same way.
If it was metallic, I would buy it without a second thought.

Everything has happened! : D I just called and ordered Tefalku which is like Moulinex 5002! I was told and there are still a few pieces left, Oh, I say, what a happiness! It's good that I matured so quickly, and even very cheap for that kind of money. I also take it in installments for 7 months. so that the budget is not lame. I'll pay a penny, In short, I'm waiting in two weeks !!! URAAA !!!! I already called my mother and said that soon we will all have bread and not only!

tanya1962
What is your Clathronic model?
I looked at the stoves of this company, and I discovered that Klatronic has a model with a handle - an exact copy of Kenwood VM-210 and Melissa, I don't know which number.

Natalja Ar
Congratulations!

Have you ordered in Antilles? Two weeks delivery?

Everything has happened! : D I just called and ordered Tefalku which is like Moulinex 5002! I was told and there are still a few pieces left, Oh, I say, what a happiness! It's good that I matured so quickly, and even very cheap for that kind of money. I also take it in installments for 7 months. so that the budget is not lame. I'll pay a penny, In short, I'm waiting in two weeks !!! URAAA !!!! I already called my mother and said that soon we will all have bread and not only!

(y) Congratulations, our regiment has arrived! There is also a jam function and many other useful functions

Thank you for your congratulations, I'm glad myself !!!!
Rita I ordered in Anttila, but 2 weeks delivery! But they are and will definitely come !!! Hooray, I'm happy!

Natalja Ar
I read on the next branch about the analogue, but with baguettes. There Mashenka writes that the baguettes are so tiny that they are barely enough for two adults and two children. And there's nothing special about the baguette stand. It is quite possible to bake in the oven.
Straight, I don't know ........ Maybe I'll buy this model too.

Thank you TatSu, if she had not found that Tefal produces bread machines for Denmark and Finland under her own name, I would not have guessed to look for them in Antilla, and you would not have ordered a bread machine there.

Rita, The price is only 1639, it seems like this, And the Analog Muli 3000 model was offered to me at a higher price, of course, I no longer hesitated to decide for the best, also for less money! And the dough for baguettes can be kneaded and baked in the oven! What is it, Really ??? Really voluminous oven, you can knead a lot of dough! Yes I think what is there to think, order too! I called there on the phone, everything was drawn up at a run,
Moreover, they said that there are a few more, So go to sleep! I'm really glad that I had time! 2 weeks wait is not long!
do not look at the color, Just think, I also wanted a grayish one, But in the position like we have nothing to buy and nowhere, and white for joy!

Natalja Ar
I am already leaning towards ordering. I also liked it in the store.
I will make baguettes in the oven.

Rita, how have you matured ??? Of course you have to take
There is nothing to think about, you think there is no stand for baguettes. there are all ovens !!! ... Now I'm reading about the ingredients, about everything, so many heads burst)))
I was just looking specifically for a few days, in the end I made sure that this is the best thing that you can find here! And even if the installments are so lovely!

Molds for baguettes, bake in the oven, can be ordered on ebay in Europe. For example, from England with delivery to Finland, they cost ~ 11 pounds.

Pakat
thanks a lot for the advice.

I'll look at e-wow. Indeed, in 5004 mules, these baguettes are so tiny that there is no point in doing them.

Rita, how have you matured ??? Of course you have to take
There is nothing to think about, you think there is no stand for baguettes. there are all ovens !!! ... Now I'm reading about the ingredients, about everything, so many heads burst)))

if my memory serves me right. then 5004 differs from 5002 precisely in baguettes - everything else is similar. although I won't lie - in theory, you need to download the instructions for 5002.

They wrote about 3000 that the sellers encouraged the cupcake regime (baking with improvers, not with yeast), but it is not there - again, the introduction needs to be looked at, I did not look.

In other branches they wrote that the presence of a normal oven allows you to completely do without a special model. And baguette recipes can be easily looked at in the instructions to 5004 (here on the site there are also Recipes and there is an Instruction for 5004 - there is a baguette recipe right in the instructions).

Moreover, I found a recipe for two types of bread - where do you think? - in recipes for the microwave - they gave me a wedding gift (a flip book - like a flip-top notebook with a spiral - with a thick cover) - on the weekend I was looking for what to cook quickly and ducked Then after purchasing HP I will try to apply them to the stove

And the presence of everything you need is not so difficult, for a start, completely white flour will be enough, and then all kinds of rye, peeled, and pasting :-)

??? Something seems to me (I read somewhere here) in 5004 two tena, and they wrote, it is not very convenient to pull out the bucket, but this should be asked from the owners of this model

??? Something seems to me (I read somewhere here) in 5004 two tena, and they wrote, it is not very convenient to pull out the bucket, but this should be asked from the owners of this model

There are definitely two kneaders, the manufacturer says, it mixes better (on some pictures of ready-made bread, sometimes you can see that the bread seems to be made up of two conjoined koloboks), but I won't tell you about tena

About the bucket I only remember that they wrote that the shape of the bread is more correct, not cupcake or cake. About taking out a bucket - it seems like everyone's

:) Two paddles for kneading are for both models, two koloboks are impossible, the agitator bun knocks to each other at the end of the kneading, but at the beginning it looks more like a sausage or an infinity sign, the bucket for both has a classic shape (which we are used to ), only larger

Mueslik
What do you think about the fact that all Panasonic people say that because of the fact that the bread takes longer to cook, it tastes better? And those who cooked Panas in programmable ovens say that bread is tastier?

Do you think your bread is delicious in your oven?
I probably shouldn't have started reading this site. The abundance of information and praise of Panas hit me in the brain, and the paralysis of choice came.