Gingerbread
People, I'm stupid, I just can't understand why an oven without a thermostat is bad. We have an electric oven, it is with a thermostat, I did not use another one, so I just cannot understand how the (gas) oven will work without a thermostat. Please explain, someone on your fingers, WHAT IS BAD a gas oven without a thermostat, please. What exactly is bad without it.
vatruska
Gingerbread, maybe those that will not keep the temperature? Well, as I understand it ...
Gingerbread
That is, I have a handle at 180 *, the oven has reached these degrees, after a while the degrees of small-small fell, say to 160 *, do not forget it is set to 180 *. And what, it will be 160 *? And the quiet will continue to fall, and the oven will not react to it in any way - will it not start raising degrees? Is that possible?!
vatruska
Gingerbread, read here:

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Gingerbread
Svetlana, Thank you so much! I read this, only in all such articles the operation of the thermostat and its structure are described, but how the oven will work without it is not written.
shade
world of waam bakers!

I do not have a thermostat, and the temperature is not indicated on the handle
I calmly manage with the thermometer and do not experience discomfort when using -
Gingerbread
Anatoly, you are just a miracle, thank you very much! This means that there is life on Mars), the choice has become richer, otherwise the color is not the same, the price, then the width and rested on one single plate, now you can torment your brain a little more with the wealth of choice)).
And what kind of stove do you have?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Alla--

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Gingerbread
I sit studying the topic and already several times, in less than 10 pages, they write that when the grill is running, the oven door must be open, that dances with some kind of protective screen are needed. Is that what all gas ovens have ?!
vatruska
Gingerbread, I have a burning problem, in order to work with the return grill, you need to install a protective screen on top of the oven opening, of course, after that you cannot close the door. Their grill is a long, narrow gas burner on top.
Gingerbread
Svetlana, yes, I have already felt different stoves in stores, the gas grill burner for everyone probably looks about the same. Another thing is worrying, it turns out that in any stove with a gas grill, during its operation, you need to put a screen and keep the door ajar. I don't like that at all. Damn, why is electricity so expensive ?! If in the very, very near future I do not choose a stove (completely gas), then my husband will kill me with the light, he wants me to stand at the stove all day and you see such bills for electricity that he will soon have to sell a kidney.
ledi
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Anatoly, you are just a miracle, thank you very much! This means that there is life on Mars), the choice has become richer, otherwise the color is not the same, the price, then the width and rested on one single plate, now you can torment your brain a little more with the wealth of choice)).
And what kind of stove do you have?
I have yours, Belarusian Hephaestus. Very happy
Gingerbread
Vera, what kind of model do you have?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
What is this nonsense about open faith when grilling , for all the time I was at my stove, I roasted a whole poultry farm on a spit, a half of a pigsty and a decent fish cage, and even thought it was not possible to open the door

Not only that - while I put the chicken on a spit and warm up the oven
Lёlik
Gingerbreadhow often do you plan to use the grill? He may consider the option of a gas stove with an electric grill, there is no need to open the door.
Gingerbread
Anatoly, well, I've already read the 16th page and already 10 times have met this from different people. They write like the instructions are supposed to be.
Olga, very often), I have 4 adult eaters and everyone loves to eat, especially men, all sorts of scoffers are very fond of.
And I have email. oven with convection and el. grill, and I respect her very much, but lately I have added free time and I devote it to cooking and electricity bills have grown very noticeably, my husband demands that I urgently choose a completely gas stove or he will choose it himself (this is highly undesirable)) ...
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
And what is the rationale for opening the oven door when the grill is working
Gingerbread
They write according to the instructions, but what is there specifically in the instructions, I myself did not read, there was no such opportunity. Somewhere it seems they wrote that the seal between the door and the oven burns out, somewhere it seems there were fears for overheating and, as a result, a glass (glass-ceramic) door burst into smithereens.
Lёlik
Alla, In the combined version, the oven is gas, and the main cooking time does not require electricity, and the grill can only give color at the very end, it literally no more than 5 minutes.
win-tat
There may be a good flow of air for the gas grill to function properly, and if the door is closed, oxygen will quickly burn out and the burner flame may go out. And about overheating, by the way, too, it's still an open fire almost next to the door, and not under the bottom of the oven.
Gingerbread
Olga, well, why do I need another oven with an electric grill?). I'm even ready to consider the option of a gas stove without a grill at all, if all the other stars converge. I think if you really want to grill something, then you can probably quickly transfer it from one oven to another. But if I'm going to take it with a grill, then only with a gas and a spit, so of course then).
While I am reading, I am trying to grasp the basic principles of operation of today's gas ovens, and it was a great discovery for me these dances with a protective screen and an open door while the oven was operating.

Maybe the gas grill needs good air flow for normal operation.

maybe so there is not enough traction
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On the 17th p. Olga from VoronezhGoregni's glass door exploded in her face as she bent down to look at the pastries.
ledi
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Vera, what kind of model do you have?
6100-02. I like it, it is large 60 cm. The oven bakes well, I only put one more baking sheet, and then the bottom of the products is good, not burnt. I used the grill a couple of times to quickly brown the top and for some reason did not think that I needed to open the door. Well, nothing happened in a couple of minutes.




Alla, from page 38 the Hephaestus slabs were discussed. Just don't take brown
Gingerbread
Vera, thanks for unsubscribing, looked, I like it). How long have you had it? I would go white or black, brown definitely not and no stainless steel.

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I had to let off steam from the oven, 10 minutes had passed since the beginning of baking. The memory was completely lost. Thank Vilapo

Tell me, is it necessary to release steam for gas ovens?
Oh, I just can't stand it ..
win-tat
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Is it necessary for gas ovens to release steam?
I have never heard of such a thing.
I have an AEG gas / stove with gas / spirit, electric / grill and convection, I never let out any steam.
OlgaGera
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Tell me, is it necessary to release steam for gas ovens?
I hear it for the first time. Gas stove with gas oven and other accessories Ardo PL 998
ledi
This is also the first time I hear about it
Gingerbread
Tatyana, Lelka, Vera, well, a quote as it is, a rather authoritative person at the Bread Maker. I don't know, maybe I misunderstood.
I haven’t bought a gas stove yet, but I’m already very afraid of it, maybe his this husband with his economy.
OlgaGera
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well the quote as it is
what year?
Really, you would not go to the beginning of the topic, because then the technique was also different, and other countries released it.
Everything happens in life, sometimes bricks fall on your head ... why don't you walk down the street now?





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but I'm already very afraid of her
hire a cook ...
your plates, Hephaestus, seem to be very dignified.A friend does not refuse her for any price.
Gingerbread
Quote: OlgaGera
Gas stove with gas oven and other accessories Ardo PL 998

Wow, what a car! But they won't give me that kind of money). And our Hephaestus also has enough high reviews, you need to look at each model separately. I read the reviews and I have a feeling that each new model is worse and worse than the previous ones.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Once again about the open door

COMPLETE NONSENSE

We use the grill 2-3 times a week - chicken, meat, fish and vegetables in season

Well, if you open the door, then the chicken will turn an order of magnitude longer.
ledi
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For a long time you have it
Since the summer of 15th year. Everything works well so far. The only thing is that the temperature on the handle does not correspond to the actual temperature in the oven by 20-30 degrees. I bought a thermometer and hung it on the wire rack. Although I don't look at him. I already got used to setting the temperature more. If you need 180, then set the knob to 220. Again, for good baking, you need to use the correct pan, even the instructions say. For baking aluminum, for baking something deeper enameled. Although today the rolls were baked in enamel, everything was baked and browned.
I chose this stove because of the size, because the old one was the same, only before Brest was called, the smaller one could not be set, and I liked the price. The metal in it is not thin, and the grates are cast-iron, ignition with a button, they said it was like if the handle is not very good




Anatoly, Thank you! And then I was already worried, I wanted to run the instructions to read
I don't know why I never grilled anything, the old fashioned way up my sleeve
win-tat
Quote: ledi
I didn't grill anything, the old fashioned way up my sleeve
Here I am the same way. A friend told me how they fried a chicken on a spit, delicious, but then they washed the oven for a very long time, and all the joy from this chicken evaporated.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Vera-

If a chicken, a piece of meat \ cut correctly \ the fish is still ok on the spit

Then I had to think about the fry with the vegetables, in the sense of the spit to improve how much if not squeezed, let's say the tomatoes then they scroll, and if squeezed they burst

But let's say I forgot pork ribs when I did not do it on a spit, but on weekends with beer I almost always take them

win-tat--

Regarding washing the oven, well, I really don't know what you can fry so that it splashes in all directions

Of course, the fat flows down to the bottom, I just put a baking sheet with a frying pan under the bottom \ I did not throw out the old one \ where everything and drips quietly
To wash a frying pan is a matter of minutes, of course it gets a little on a baking sheet, but this is because the frying pan is too small
win-tat
Quote: shade
what can you fry so that it splashes in all directions
So the chicken shoots in all directions, and the baking sheet is down, so this is natural, otherwise the smoke outlet is also provided.
Gingerbread
Anatoly, yes, I do not argue, all this also seems to be nonsense, but authoritative people write. When I first read about an open door in a review on Yandex. market, I did not even attach any importance for a second. But I started reading this topic and on almost every page people write about it with a bunch of thanks in their profile and a bunch of loaves and other medals.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Tatyana --

My chicken doesn’t shoot - it’s fried, if I could insert a video here on a straight line, I would argue

It can spray only if the chicken is not planted in the center, then when you turn it, it seems to fall and a small shake is obtained, but even in this case, there is not so much spray that it would be possible to wash the oven after cooking
Alla-

Buy and try this and that
Marine Ka
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I hear it for the first time. Gas stove with gas oven and other accessories Ardo PL 998
Olga, hello, I beg you, write about your stove in detail. how the oven works is especially important. we ordered the same one, only Ardesia is now called. We read reviews and now we doubt it. there is nowhere to look, ordering only via the Internet, in fact, we buy a pig in a poke for that kind of money. I will be grateful to you for any information.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
And what body kits are not currently installed by default - well, in the sense that if you monitor, you will find different manufacturers upon request
In my not at all expensive stove, it seems like everything is there for me
Ignition, gas control, grill, spit, no steam, but there is an Extra effect kit that normally moisturizes and replaces the baking stone
OlgaGera
Marine Ka, I wrote everything I know in the LAN. If space permits, you will be satisfied.
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Mandraik Ludmila
Guys, help please, I am looking for a gas stove for my mother. In general, we were determined with the choice, I have Mora and I am very pleased with her, and my mother wanted the same, but then it turned out that there was practically no Mora left in St. It turned out that Mora had bought and absorbed the Burning. I looked at Burning, outwardly very similar to Morata. Can anyone have Burning, tell me how the ovens are there? And in general, how is quality and convenience?
an_domini
I have Gorenie for several years, and so have my friend.
It seems that, like all modern technology, it works well for a certain period of time, and then it starts to crumble.
At first, the electric ignition starts to fail, in turn on the burners. Repaired.
Now the temperature in the oven has ceased to be regulated correctly. It's good that my house men with their hands promise to disassemble and fix everything, some detail needs to be changed there.
A friend recently refused to ignite the oven, she has no one to fix it, she is now sparing matches.
Mandraik Ludmila
an_domini, sad ...
Mom has one of the main criteria, the oven thermostat. Good oven .. Bakes and bakes a lot. Well, I would not want to pay more than 20tyr. Guys, can anyone have sound thoughts on models. Our and Belarusian mother flatly refuses to consider.
alfa20
Buttercup, my sister also wanted (like mine) a MOR, but did not find it and bought Gorenje in Eldorado about a year ago. The flight is normal, the oven is good - both the meat and the cakes have been personally tested by me. It seems that there were no problems, pah-pah.
Mandraik Ludmila
alfa20, Victoria, of course, in general, I'm sitting there studying models ... Mommy can't decide yet
an_domini
So for me it also worked well for several years. The problem is that in modern technology a certain period of work is laid down, and then the parts fail one by one. And people change their equipment to a new one, well, marketing is like that.
I asked a gasman who goes to check gas stoves about his stove, he said that this is a common thing, there is nothing to expect anything else.
My classmate (friends from school) has already changed several plates, and of different brands. At first I was very surprised by this, because my old Soviet stove was still working and working. I changed it to Darina, after a few years I changed it to Gorenie. The effect is the same.
You just need to get used to it and expect that after a not very long time the tenika will have to be updated again.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Mandraik Lyudmila--

Well, if not ours and not Belarusian, then China remains
Mandraik Ludmila
shade, Anatoly, I still like the Czech Republic more
alfa20
Olga, yes I do not argue. It's just that while I was typing my message, yours has already appeared. And so, yes, I also see how modern technology is becoming "disposable". After the Soviet stove, I also managed to buy Nord for 5 years. Horror, not a stove. All panels turned yellow after the first baking, the oven stopped working normally after 3 years, some wiring inside just crumbled, it turns out ...
Crochet
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Can anyone have Combustion, tell me how the ovens are?

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I'm not overjoyed for 6 years !!!
Mandraik Ludmila
Crochet, Inna, an_domini, Olga, alfa20, Victoria, do you have a thermometer or thermostat?

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