Dishwasher selection (2)

[Gerda1]

Gerda1 Take Bosch or Veko, you will get rich in dishes gradually

[Esfir]

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Aunt Besya, excellent machine Excellent! I have almost the same (in terms of functionality), only 60 cm and 13 sets, has been washing great for almost 4 years.
Love the VarioSpeed ​​function
Cvetaal Svetlana, but do not tell me what this function is? I have such a button in my typewriter, but I don't know anything about it.

Esfir, excuse me for answering so late, didn’t see your question this function cuts the time by almost half on "long programs"

How important is 1/2 load in a full size PMM?

I actively use this function even in my 45cm PMM. I don't like to save up dirty dishes.

[Eyelid]

A Eyelid who is doing???

[Eyelid]

A Eyelid who is doing???

Turkey, but harvested in China and Russia.

damn, it's not easier from hour to hour
Thank you

And where do the Boshevskys ???

And where do the Boshevskys ???

They do it everywhere, even in Russia, so I want Siemens, a one-on-one model with Bosch, only more reliable.

we have nyama siemens in the country
I hope that my Bosik will be assembled at least in Poland

Although 5 years ago I handed over a purely German Bosch stove in Minsk. then everyone was still wondering where I dug it out ...

Thank you all for the advice and answers.

Recently I bought a Bosch stove, made in Turkey.
We don't have Siemens household appliances on sale either. Even Bosch is very rarely on sale.

Gerda1, why is there no Siemens in the country? I just found 11 models in the online store !!!

it means that something did not suit me in them ... either the price (which is most likely) or the functions ..
Unfortunately, the price played the first role

By the way, I don’t think of such a choice .. I only looked at the freestanding ones, there is more choice

BUT!!!

I'm already with PMMkoy ..
more precisely tomorrow they will bring, but all the docks are in my hands
Took Bosch SGS 46E52 RU assembly Poland
The boy in the store was so generous that he handed over 2 gift pills together as many as 4 pieces ... It's a pity that there weren't any other cars in the next ... probably he would have given them to me too

Now I have a question .... how do some users manage to split this pill in half ... there is also a powder inside, and in the center is a circle with rinse aid
Dreamily .. how to persuade her husband tomorrow to connect her

Gerda1, I broke only pills, which are just pills, without a circle inside. But in general I use everything separately - salt, powder, rinse aid. I pour a little powder - everything is perfectly washed!
Congratulations on your purchase !!!

My tablet with a circle in the middle was well cut in half with a knife (with cloves), the rest of the tablet, if it crumbled, was put into a small plastic cup with a lid, I bought the glass at the pharmacy.

I have had PMM Siemens for almost a year now, so healthy, I never regretted that I bought it, and at a discount ... And in general, I buy all the equipment made in Germany (hob, oven, PMM), I want to somehow immediately buy and for a long time ...

[Gerda1]

Gerda1,
Congratulations on your purchase!
Do not forget to pour water into the salt compartment first, and add salt there. This will save the ion exchanger.

Slonique, Rita, thanks for the congratulations

Yes, I know about salt, I've already read the instructions and the forum

Hello, here I have lived to see the happy moment when I can buy a dishwasher! Only here in the whole big city of Omsk I found only one Beko DIS 1520 by 45 cm, and there are no reviews about it here, it does not have 1/2 load and something else, but I hope it won’t make it worse?

Hello, here I live to the happy moment when I can buy a dishwasher! Only here in the whole big city of Omsk I found only one Beko DIS 1520 by 45cm, and there are no reviews about it here, it does not have 1/2 load and something else, but I hope it won’t make it worse?

Congratulations!
This will not make washing worse.I have such a function, but I do not use it.

And tell me more please dear owners of PMM, I've read that from high temperatures the film on the facade of the headset can peel off if the machine is built-in? I'm just going to order a mdf film headset, has anyone really exfoliated it ???

I do not have a built-in dishwasher, I judge by my own - it does not heat up much from above. Slightly warm, the stove is much hotter when used.

And tell me more please dear owners of PMM, I've read that from high temperatures the film on the facade of the headset can peel off if the machine is built-in? I'm just going to order a mdf film headset, has anyone really exfoliated it ???

Most PMMs have an electronics unit on the door, so it can't get very hot. I don't know what was peeling off from anyone, it's more likely from moisture or just a marriage of the laminate

[NatalochkaWW]

NatalochkaWW

I read somewhere that the activation of glue for film MDF occurs at temperatures above 70 C
Outside the PMM, this temperature will never be
You can be afraid for the facades above the gas stove and near the oven with a poor ventilation system.
And I also wrote in the topic "Kitchen Furniture":

Today I was in a very sensible salon, the girl showed not just films in a bundle, but opened a wardrobe, and inside they have a stand with samples right on the mdfins, and says that these samples are about 8 years old, look - this sample has come off , and on this sample too, but at least this, and no thermal effects !!! just hung in the closet for 8 years in the same conditions !!!

There is no heat from the PMM, there is only moisture from it, when you open the door - the steam falls and settles on the underside of the tabletop. I took a moisture-resistant countertop, and a sticky foil was attached to my PMM on one side, for gluing to the bottom of the countertop.

I ask a question ludicrous

Girls, do you PMM heat up ?? Freestanding ...
Mine is hot from all sides, I certainly understand, sho there is 65 degrees, but damn .. I did not think that it should be to such an extent.
Well, not that hot, but the cat food in the can, standing on the PMM, warmed up a little.
Is that so for everyone? Or do we need to watch the wiring?
or, God forbid, change the car (mmm)

I ask a question ludicrous

Girls, do you PMM heat up ?? Freestanding ...
Mine is hot from all sides, I certainly understand, sho there is 65 degrees, but damn .. I did not think that it should be to such an extent.
Well, not that hot, but the cat food in the can, standing on the PMM, warmed up a little.
Is that so for everyone? Or do we need to watch the wiring?
or, God forbid, change the car (mmm)

Boys answer
Quite normal heating, I have an Electrolux, it heats up about the same

Please advise a dishwasher with a minimum number of functions, but a maximum capacity of dishes ..... needed in a children's camp!

Please advise a dishwasher with a minimum number of functions, but a maximum capacity of dishes ..... needed in a children's camp!

yes, many companies have 4-5 programs (much less)
And the dimension is full-sized for 12-14 sets of dishes, 60 cm wide

Please advise a dishwasher with a minimum number of functions, but a maximum capacity of dishes ..... needed in a children's camp!

For example:
WHIRLPOOL AGB 782 / WP



True, it is written that it is for washing glassware, but the washing cycle is two minutes!

I can't imagine how it is ...

There are essentially only two operations: once hot water with detergent, the second time clean hot water and that's it. The dishes are already drying on the shelf. But the productivity is 400-600 plates per hour!
And I can't imagine a household PMM that will wash 12 sets for at least half an hour. How many children and staff are there in the camp?

oo, you can look for professional
in restaurants, for example, how do they wash dishes ?? by hands or machines

oo, you can look for professional
in restaurants, for example, how do they wash dishes ?? by hands or machines

professional ??? and these are what .... and where to look for them ???

what if I knew - I would suggest
Maybe the people will catch up, they will recommend something in this direction

This is the cheapest one I found. Type in the search "Professional dishwashers" There prices start from 12 thousand UAH.

Right, dishwasher! Better than two
In the collective farm camp there were three or four (I remember already) hefty sinks, in one dirty dishes, in the other a washing solution, in the third clean water ... and they washed with pens ...

Here and 2 is not enough. There were 4 of us on potatoes at the institute to wash the dishes for 400 students (I was lucky to be in the "service platoon"). And 3 meals a day, not 5, as in the children's camp. How many dishes have I washed in a month ...

Well, it happened! Now I have a PMM !!! Now another question arose, I want to order a kitchen in Ikea, but they have cabinets for 40 and 50 cm, and for 45 they do not have those facades that I liked !!! What to do? How realistic is it to put it in a 50cm cabinet, and how then can you hang the door?

Well, it happened! Now I have a PMM !!! Now another question arose, I want to order a kitchen in Ikea, but they have cabinets for 40 and 50 cm, and for 45 they do not have those facades that I liked !!! What to do? How realistic is it to put it in a 50cm cabinet, and how then can you hang the door?

PMM is not inserted into the cabinet, the 45 cm facade clings directly to its door.

The cabinet is not needed, you only need a 45cm (60cm) door and a tabletop shared with other cabinets, the PMM is screwed to the tabletop, and a decorative door on the facade and a decorative strip at the bottom.
It will not fit into the cabinet in height, since it is from the floor itself, and in the cabinet there are legs

Girls, save, help! I can't find a single review on the Internet about the Delfa DDW-672. What else can you buy for about the same money and with the same features? The husband went to the store to choose and found only one, and what kind of animal is unknown. HELP!!!

Where are you from? Mark in your profile, it will be easier to answer.

Where are you from? Mark in your profile, it will be easier to answer.

Poltava region Ukraine. My husband went to Poltava to buy. At first, Beko wanted, he says that the choice of models is limited, but I need sets of 12 at least, and at a price of up to UAH 3000 That is why I was interested in the Delfa DDW-672 model. We decided to think more, look for reviews. I will probably order through the online store. Delivery across Ukraine 5 UAH / km. I will look for delivery at least from Kharkov, it is closer than Kiev.

These Delfa have recently appeared on the market.
I wouldn't rush, I would wait and save money for something more ... substantial.
For the same money, I bought Zanussi a year ago, a better known company.
There are offers of online stores in Kharkov, a wide selection, look in the internet!

[Zhenya]

Zhenya, is such a model worth considering?

Bosch SPV 69 T 00 RU


(reviews: 2) 21950 rub.


Basic information:
Number of crockery sets: 10
Management: electronic
Washing class: A
Drying class: A
Energy class: A-20%
Noise level: 44 dB

Programs:
6 wash programs, including 3 automatic programs:
Auto 35-45
Auto 45-65
Auto 65-75
Eco 50
Rapid 45
Pre-rinse

Additional functions:
VarioSpeed: this function saves up to 50% of time with consistently excellent wash performance at full load
1/2 load
IntensiveZone: a function that activates a special zone in the lower basket for washing heavily soiled items with mixed loads
Hygiene: special function in which the last rinse is performed with hot water

Security systems:
Digital display
Start timer 24h
Time display until the end of the program
Electronic indicators for salt and rinse aid
Acoustic signal for the end of the program
InfoLight
AquaSensor
Load sensor
Automation "3 in 1"
Regeneration electronics
Variable water technology
Condensing Dryer / Heater
VarioDrawer: additional third loading level
DosageAssist: optimizes the dissolution process of each of the detergent components at each stage of the program
Height-adjustable top basket: Rackmatic-3
VarioFlex Plus boxes
ServoSchloss
Instantaneous water heater combined with a pump
DuoPowerTM - double rotating rocker arm in the upper basket
5 levels of water supply
Tray attachment: Ideal for cleaning trays and other large items
Height adjustable legs: 60 mm

Consumption parameters: 9l / 0.81 kWh
Niche dimensions for embedding: 81.5-87.5x45x57.3 cm
Specifications Bosch SPV 69 T 00 RU:
Dimensions (HxWxD) (cm)
81.5x44.8x57.3
Capacity (sets)
10
Number of programs
6
Washing temperature (° C)
75/65/45/35
Pre-rinse
there is
Intensive wash
there is
Quick wash
there is
Delicate wash
there is
Auto program
there is
Automation "3 in 1"
there is
Aquasensor
there is
Aquastop
there is
Control Panel
hidden
Control
electronic
Timer
there is
Display
there is
Program progress indication
there is
Rinse aid indicator
there is
Salt indicator
there is
Half load
there is
Washing in the upper basket
no
Drying type
condensing
Water heater
flowing
Shutdown signal
acoustic + beam on the floor
Child protection
there is
Leakage protection
there is
Energy efficiency / washing / drying class
A ++ / A / A
Noise level (dB)
44
Warranty
1 year
Manufacturer country
Germany

Well, I bought what I wanted. It remains to live until the moment of connection ... as to the end of the world ..

Good day to all! smile.gif I have a Bosch SRV 53M13 EU and I have had no relationship with her for a long time ... sad.gif There are two problems. 1) Doesn't want to take all the powder out of the compartment (it remains in the "box" too, it is open and there are strong streaks of powder on the door). I pour very little, literally 1 hour. l. Now I'm trying to pour it directly onto the dishes, inside the machine (we'll pour it directly into the tank!), But there are vague doubts that this is not right ... confused_1.gif 2) On a short program, a lot of foam remains in the car at the bottom ... I put an additional rinse - it's still full of foam! No other program has this! But this program is so demanded, and I cannot use it because of this! cry_1.gif All detergents - Domol (I buy at DC), I use everything separately. I tried to change the amount of rinse aid, it does not affect the result. The same is with the quantity of powder. Good people, help! helpsmilie.gif notworthy.gif

[mylik.sv]

mylik.sv Clean the filter, at the bottom of the PMM all the nets, I wash them with a ferry and a toothbrush. Check the nozzles are not clogged (the water outlet holes must be clean) Call the PMM repair technician

mylik.sv,
the holes in the carousel may be clogged. They are often clogged with small tomato seeds, for example. Perhaps you are placing something tall or long on the lower grate that prevents the carousel from rotating ...

Thanks for the quick response! I check my filters on a regular basis, I removed the rocker arms and washed them too - everything is in order, nothing clogged ... But why, then, does the foam not remain at the bottom on other programs? And yet, do not pour the powder into the special. compartment, and directly on the dishes, inside the machine - is this acceptable or not? Maybe there first goes rinsing and draining, and with it we leave the powder and then the machine washes just with water? And why do I have powder from specials. the entire compartment is not taken away? Powder stains are right across the door and not dissolved at the bottom ... Maybe I bought some kind of defective or fake machine? I bought it in an internet store.

[mylik.sv]

mylik.sv, actually you have a good, thoroughbred car. I myself often play my Bosch in the short program. Is she behaving like that from the very beginning? You should check everything that the forum users advised you. How hard is your water? (Check your local aquarist forum). Is the correct salt filled in the machine? try changing settings using old powder. And yet, have you clogged the ion exchanger with something like what happens after washing unglazed ceramics? And in the compartment for detergents, the spring can simply shift slightly, thanks to which the lid snaps off. And by the way, in order to save money, your machine is not directly connected to hot water? Did you do prophylaxis with citric acid? Here are how many questions .... You need to call a doctor for dishwashers and treat your assistant. Good luck to you

Yes, this is how it works from the very beginning, for almost a year already ... And this whole year I either rejoice at the good quality of washing, then I cry ... Following your advice, I just went again, checked and washed the filters, took off the rocker arms - everything is clean ... And specials. means of her soap (also Domol). We buy the right salt, my husband set up the water hardness, it seems that everything is also correct ... And I played with the settings, but the short program does not give in to me. Before the purchase, I shoveled all the forums, I thought that I had chosen a reliable, good technique ... And after the purchase I reread so much ... Now I try to ask for advice on the forum I did not want to upset my husband by calling the master (it was a gift for DR from him and my friends - relatives). But apparently it will have to, because such a program is convenient! Maybe someone has such a model - share it!

Is the sewer all right? Maybe the drain is not as intense as it should be?

I also have Bosch, but SRV55T34 is already a year and a half. On the short program, the same garbage - all the bottom of the car is in foam, even additional rinsing does not help. But I'm not upset because I don't use it at all, I don't like the quality of the sink on it - all the plates are stained. There are no such jambs on other programs.