Antonina 104
Quote: GenyaF

Dmitry and Antonina! Tell me, please, when you first fill it up, how much salt did you have? I began to pour in a liter of water (as it is written in the instructions), so I didn't have 100 milliliters, I had to suck the little water off in order to fill up at least a little salt. What the hell, or it should be, but it is written in the instructions that the tank holds about 2 kg of salt. Or there was still water after service and factory tests, so I'm curious - I first stuck my finger in. Maybe my finger is very short and did not reach the water? In general, I am all in withdrawal symptoms.
GenyaF, at the beginning I got a little more than 1 kg, the water ran out a little. But I wrote above, during the second filling of salt, I did not fill in the water, it was already leaking out with might and main, only the salt was added and that's it. Maybe not right, then correct me!
Dmitry P.
Fill in water at the first filling.
Sandy
I have Delph and I am sooooo happy, no comments on the work
I keep watching the feedback on the work of PMM, so expensive Brands have enough problems and breakdowns too.It's like a lottery, whoever is lucky with both the expensive and not very well-known company
Dmitry P.
And here is the owner of the delfa, and we were looking for you. What is your model?
Sandy
Quote: Dmitry P.

And here is the owner of the delfa, and we were looking for you. What's your model?

I’m Dmitry P. and I answered when you chose PMM for yourself, asked whether it was noisy or not

Quote: Sandy

I have DELFA DDW-9241 for about a year, I use it once or twice a day. I am very pleased with her.
Briefly:
• Number of sets of dishes: 9
• Number of programs: 7
• Drying
• Energy class: А
• Washing class: A
• Drying class: A
• Display

Programs and functions
• Express program
• ECO (economical)
• Intensive
• Standard (normal)
• Delay start

• Dimensions (WxHxD): 45 × 89 × 58 cm
fugaska
Quote: GenyaF

... Only now we have to fight off all sorts of clever people who "can wash one plate with their hands."

useless! I hardly accumulate one bookmark in the evening, periodically it is a half bookmark ...
Niunia
Quote: Bunny
my review of the Bosch SPV 50E00 dishwasher. 45 cm. Maybe someone will come in handy.
I also have one, I bought it in Poland, at first I was worried, No reviews, but in general we do not have it on sale. But now I am very pleased with her and glad that she did not overpay for the expensive one, about which there were reviews, since my brother took the expensive one, and the effect is the same.
GenyaF
Quote: fugaska

useless! I hardly accumulate one bookmark in the evening, periodically it is a half bookmark ...
I have 45 for 10 sets, we live with my husband and two cats, I manage to load it to capacity in a day. My husband especially likes the low water consumption, we have a drain pit and the water does not go well. I definitely won't wash all the dishes by hand with 15 liters of water.
Dmitry P.
Zhenya, what is your rigidity? I realized you live by the sea
GenyaF
And the stiffness is the worst, all the stripes turned blue. We also have salt filters at the entrances to the washing machine and dishwasher.
Julia V
Zhenya, we also have the worst toughness. It takes me 2 packs of salt for a month, despite the fact that I wash it once a day, well, very rarely when I wash it 2 times a day.
tar-alla
Owners of Veko 5831! Tell me how to make the sound signal quieter or even remove it? The instructions say something incomprehensibly written ..
julifera
Quote: tar-alla

Owners of Veko 5831! Tell me how to make the sound signal quieter or even remove it? The instructions say something incomprehensibly written ..

I read in the reviews that the signal in our Beck 5831 is not regulated.
Dmitry P.
Quote: tar-alla

Owners of Veko 5831! Tell me how to make the sound signal quieter or even remove it? The instructions say something incomprehensibly written ..
I looked through the instructions, there is not a word about the signal. Either you have a different instruction or, as with salt, information on separate inserts. You can find out in more detail what you subtracted.
julifera
Quote: Dmitry P.

I looked through the instructions, there is not a word about the signal. Either you have a different instruction or, as with salt, information on separate inserts. You can find out in more detail what you subtracted.
Even in the internet, the owners of 5831 did not find how to do it.
Quite naturally, there are usually people who read both instructions and inserts before asking
And if the answer to this question was, then it would have been voiced long ago, and I would not have come across the words:
"Disadvantages: It is impossible to turn off the sound signal ("

Dmitry P.
I read: "The instructions are somehow incomprehensibly written ..". This interested me.
Just in case, I will explain how I understand - the instructions are either written (but not clear), or not written.
tar-alla
Written like this: Change the volume of the sound signal. Each time you press the half load button / detergent tablets, the beep volume changes in the following sequence: sound off, S: 01 low, S: 02 medium and S: 03 loud. To save the volume setting, turn off the machine at the power switch. The standard signal level is S: 03.
Dmitry P.
Have you tried pressing the key combination so that these values ​​appear - S: 01 .. 03
julifera
Quote: Dmitry P.

Have you tried pressing the key combination so that these values ​​appear - S: 01 .. 03

It's not a keyboard shortcut - it's one button.
When you press the button indicated in the instruction, no S values ​​appear, only the modes are shown:
- either 1/2 load,
- either washing with a tablet (gel),
- either 1/2 + tablet (gel),
- either nothing (normal powder mode)
Dmitry P.
It is written in Russian in the instructions or on the section insert.
I can assume - while holding down 1 \ 2 press on. Although I tried my office or he rinse aid. And what will you have?
julifera
Dima - you are just GOLD
And this despite the fact that I tried to hold the button down before, but it did not work!

In short, you gave me an idea and it worked

I had the same problem with the dlink modem when I first encountered it.
There is a button to reset the modem to factory settings.
It is hidden in a narrow hole, you can only push it with a rod from the handle or nail scissors.
So it had to be held down for a certain time, but my modem was never reset no matter how much I pressed.
It turns out that you had to hold it not for 6 seconds, as stated in the instructions, but much longer!

With the PMM, this principle could also work, but I did not think about it (smiley "in the tank")

Now I went and pressed this button on the P1 program - "Rinsing" (on this program it does not change anything - neither the size of the load, nor the type of detergent)
- and held it for so long until the S-ki appeared

Only after selecting the desired digit, do not immediately turn off the PMM, but wait until the signature of the program number P1 is restored on the display.

Although the sound did not bother me at all, it's just a matter of principle
Dmitry P.
If it worked out, I'm glad for you. The instructions are not always adequately written. Therefore, there are often misinterpretations and misunderstandings.
julifera, thank you too for understanding me.
* Anyuta *
.. well, in short ... by March 8 they said - choose your PMM ... ... Where would you advise to start reading? From the first page or from "Select dishwasher (1)"
Taia
In my case, when choosing, I had to go to stores, write down a list of what is on sale and then read opinions on the internet. And at first I read the reviews, formed my opinion, and then when I went to the store - a complete bummer. I had to choose from what is on sale, and not what I wanted.
* Anyuta *
I have just opened a site with PMM, where we will order, but the choice must be started "with something" ... Now I am reading Temka "Dishwasher - narrow or full-size?" ...
Taia
Probably all dishwasher owners will answer you: of course full-size, if there is where to insert it. I have 45 cm, there are two of us in the family, the volume of the dishwasher is right next to it.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Flaksia

I have 45 cm, there are two of us in the family, the volume of the dishwasher is right next to it.

Does the baking sheet fit normally?
mowgli
Quote: * Annie *

Does the baking sheet fit normally?
always mine by hand
* Anyuta *
Quote: mowgli

always mine by hand
Is that just what you want, or does it not fit into the PMM?
Taia
Oppose mine with your hands. I have a large stove of 60 cm. You can somehow shove it across, but then you only have to wash it alone, it will be difficult to wash the other one at the same time. The baking sheet will block the direction of water from the rocker arms.
mowgli
take a full size. - the consumption of water and energy is almost the same, but it fits more .. then the savings are obvious, and then sometimes pots first, then plates ... cook. after all, almost every day
* Anyuta *
Quote: mowgli

.. cook. after all, almost every day

I cook 2-3 times a week, but I understand why I should take a full-size one ... Thank you!

Are there any preferences in brands? (Except bosh ??) A friend of mine took an eyelid and is happy as an elephant ...
Taia
About CENTURY in the internet found only positive reviews. At one time I wanted to buy a Veko or Bosch, but, alas, we did not have them on sale.
mowgli
and for me Kaiser-worked for 5 years, some kind of starting mechanism flew, I thought that I would have to take a new one, I already looked at a new one, but the repair was said to cost 1600, so it will work .. I looked both Beko and Bosch. I don't know which one to take, I probably need to take it so that there is a half load ... I don't like the Kaiser because of the inconvenient upper basket, but it's good
Dmitry P.
I think the function 1 \ 2 is not very necessary, especially if it is not very clear to me. Basically, the size, type, function (washing modes) are important.
And just in general, everything was more limited to the budget. There is no availability of models in our store, so searches were carried out in online stores. In my opinion successfully
* Anyuta *
I started reading the topic all over again .. there we talked about 1/2 load ... and if it is not there, why can't I start PMM if it is not jammed? Or is it about saving "water / light"?
Dmitry P.
Yes, we are talking about saving water / light. Many girls are here, and I myself think that there is always something to add to the next car wash. If, of course, you have 60 and you live alone, then it is more difficult here, soon you will have nothing to add. Everything has already been laundered.
But this is a retreat. In famous models, Function 1 \ 2 assumes the use of one basket (there is even a choice), but both work for me, and how the savings are made is not clear.
But the principle is like in a washing machine, throw at least one T-shirt (plate), she doesn't care. It's my opinion.
Yes, I'll tell you why I don't understand. In the washing machine, water is poured from the amount of laundry (water level). Here is a fixed set from the program. Let's say two plates, turn on 1/2, allow less water, and the tablet assumes its own capacity, otherwise the concentration is higher. And then how to rinse it? Less water too?
It's my opinion. Maybe I'm still misunderstanding why
Gerda1
Quote: Dmitry P.

, but how the savings are made is not clear.
everything is extremely simple - by removing the additional rinse from the cycle after washing. And if I'm not mistaken - less rinsing before washing (in my instructions, the cycles are scheduled)
At 1/2 load, the powder / tablet compartment opens sooooo immediately. With a regular wash - rinses all 30 minutes
I often use 1/2 load when there are no pots and dishes are not greasy. After guests, for example, when there are only plates / cups in the machine
I like this feature and I do not regret having it.

I regret that there is no intensive washing ...
Bake them with my hands, although they fit, both, if you get the upper basket, but the machine does not wash them as I
* Anyuta *
Quote: Gerda1

everything is extremely simple - by removing the additional rinse from the cycle after washing. And if I'm not mistaken - less rinsing before washing (in my instructions, the cycles are scheduled)
At 1/2 load, the powder / tablet compartment opens sooooo immediately.With a regular wash - rinses all 30 minutes
I often use 1/2 load when there are no pots and dishes are not greasy. After guests, for example, when there are only plates / cups in the machine
I like this feature and I do not regret having it.

I regret that there is no intensive washing ...
Bake them with my hands, although they fit, both, if you get the upper basket, but the machine does not wash them as I

What kind of PMM do you have?
Gerda1
full-size, freestanding Bosch SGS 46E52
Dmitry P.
Quote: Gerda1

everything is extremely simple - by removing the additional rinse from the cycle after washing. And if I'm not mistaken - less rinsing before washing (in my instructions, the cycles are scheduled)
Nothing new. Savings at the expense of quality.
mowgli
I have programs for 2 hours, for 1.5, short, rinsing, soaking. And I don’t quite understand why yours doesn’t have an intensive one, in theory it should be everywhere ... Besides I also have crystal and an economical one, the masters called the blades clean. not clogged, everything is fine inside .. I also do not have a half wash, but I have 45 cm, there is always something to put, but I want a full-size one on the contrary ... I think that this is better .. for prices, they are not for much more expensive - a difference of 3 thousand
Gerda1
Quote: mowgli

And I don't quite understand why yours is not intense, in theory it should be everywhere ...
why it SHOULD be ???
intensive is 75 degrees, I have a maximum of 65
generally enough
I only need it for nasty
mowgli
Well, as I understand it, the longer it rinses, that is intense, it washes in the sense ... I somehow didn’t think about washing the baking sheet, I need to put the fat somewhere, and then there are always some pieces left, can someone share how they are washed ...
Gerda1
nooo, intense means hotter))))))
I don't do anything greasy on the baking sheets, well, there are cookies, buns, and I put them on parchment, but sooner or later I still have to wash the baking sheet))))
I bake the chicken (and everything else) in a glass bowl. Well, I stuff this vessel into the PMM .. Pieces, if you can see them directly, I sweep them into the trash can and that's it
julifera
Quote: mowgli

Well, as I understand it, the longer it rinses, that is intense, it washes in the sense ... I somehow didn’t think about washing the baking sheet, I need to put the fat somewhere, and then there are always some pieces left, can someone share how they are washed ...

And we don't dirty them)))))
I always cover with a special thin light non-stick mat Zenkerbought at METRO for $ 3.
Keeps temperature up to 260 С

When I just bought the PMM, I washed the baking sheets in it anyway, I didn’t feel sorry to drive one baking sheet, for little things something else got into the lower basket + a full package of the upper one.
In my 45 baking sheet, I stood diagonally with the upper basket raised up.

But how did he wash
* Anyuta *
I am still reading the topic ... here I am looking Omela-Ksyusha ordered the Century for herself .. and many also have the same PMM ... (I don’t want an expensive one from the principle) ... now I found this one in one store ... a dishwasher Beko DSFN 1530 .. Who else has one? what can you say? And I still didn't understand the wording: Leakage protection Watersafe - is it full protection or partial? ...

Or as a Beko DSFN 6530 Option - this model .. the difference in one figure ... .. here I figured out - this is the presence / absence of a display .. and the difference in the form of dryers ..
marina-mm
BEKO 5831 users, please tell me the purpose of the 1/2 button, 4 options are switched there, and which, I can only guess - there were no instructions or an insert on the control panel. I am very happy with the machine, but it turns out that I do not use all the functions.
julifera
Quote: marina-mm

BEKO 5831 users, please tell me the purpose of the 1/2 button, 4 options are switched there, and which, I can only guess - there were no instructions or an insert on the control panel. I am very pleased with the machine, but it turns out that I do not use all the functions.

By pressing this button you can get different washing modes, the picture on the display will prompt:

- 1/2 - half load,
- tablet - washing with a tablet (gel),
- 1/2 + tablet (gel),
- the screen is empty - this is the usual powder mode
Gibus
Virgo, but this is my stupid question:

I don't have a dishwasher yet, we live together, it seems like we don't really need it, but I'm planning a new kitchen now and I have to decide whether to put it on or not ...
If, for example, I rarely use it, it can be closed or it is necessary to constantly keep the door ajar so that it is ventilated and does not foul / stink. It seems to me that it is constantly ajar, it will not decorate the interior.

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